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BREAKING: FULL 911 ZIMMERMAN RECORDING......NOTHING LIKE THE MSM HAS RELEASED

 
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It's not about the call, it's about shooting an unarmed child and not even being arrested. Period. No matter color.
 Quoting: Ha Moshiach


Was he not put in handcuff and taken to the police station?
Oh yes, yes he was.

That is the very definition of being under arrest.

He was obviously arrested and released.

The fact that he was 17 does not make him harmless. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU IGNORANT FUCKS WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE.

I have no doubt that Travon Martin attacked Zimmerman. For the simple fact that Black on White crime in the US is 50x that of white on black crimes.

That means statistically all things aside that there is a 98% chance Travon Martin was the attacker.
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Whew, you're a fucking retard. There's not a doubt in my mind that you're just a worthless piece of shit.
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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


Post you address. People know they can come and steal your stuff.
In my teen years I was stoped by neighborhood watch, on a few occasions, never busted anyone in the face for it. Sure, I walked away thinking those guys were assholes. No excuse for assault.
Self appointed or not, many people in that neighborhood were glad he was doing what he was doing. Follow is the word, not stalk. Save that drama for your momma
Private property means he can follow him.
For some of us, it isn;t about racism, although Al and Jesse turned it into that. Its about principle. Don't like that law?(stand your ground) Call your congresman and quit calling people who do not agree with you a racist.
Bang your head on the ground and what are you going to do?
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Interesting to see what you retards project from this phone call. Obviously objectivity and impartiality are not part of this discussion, so really there is nothing to discuss. We'll just have to see what happens in court.
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ALSO: NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES ARE FOR PEOPLE TO CALL THE COPS ON SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE; NOT TO CHASE AFTER THEM LIKE GODDAMN IDIOTS!
 Quoting: Leda123


There you go again. The word is follow! Not stalk, chase or even pursue.
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We're using common sense, and our ears listening to the tape, which is more than Sharpton, Jackson, the new black panthers and you are doing.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


have you read who was wearing WHITE T-SHIRT that night?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11468729


Zimmerman was wearing a RED jacket that night. The witness walking his dog saw a man with a RED jacket on the ground and another man on top of him. I would imagine in the dark of night and the pouring rain, a grey hoodie could look white. Take a look at the photo of him in the above video with the grey hoodie.

Could you explain to me why you believe that Zimmerman would hunt him down and kill him, knowing momentarily that the police would arrive. I've actually never heard of a premeditated murder where the killer calls the police minutes before cold-bloodedly and with forethought shooting a person. If you would stop being so emotional about it and use your brain to think about it, you would know I'm correct.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain



Yep. Here's the witness who saw it. He said the guy on the bottom was wearing RED (Zimmerman) and screaming for help, while the other guy (Trayvon) was on top beating him .


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This witness says it all. Bump it to this page
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Of all this bullshit thats said about whether Zimmerman had a legal right, noone mentions what legal right Trayvon had to assault Zimmerman. Why? Because there is none
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Call the police because some guy is in your neighborhood that shouldn't be.

Option 1: You called the police. Let them handle it.

Option 2: Go handle it yourself.

He picked option 2. He handled it and now he faces the repercussions of his choice.

He made a choice and he turned into the thing that he feared.

Now it's in the hands of the legal system. The legal system will figure it out.
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Would he have called the police if he wanted to "handle" it himself? Not likely.
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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


Post you address. People know they can come and steal your stuff.
In my teen years I was stoped by neighborhood watch, on a few occasions, never busted anyone in the face for it. Sure, I walked away thinking those guys were assholes. No excuse for assault.
Self appointed or not, many people in that neighborhood were glad he was doing what he was doing. Follow is the word, not stalk. Save that drama for your momma
Private property means he can follow him.
For some of us, it isn;t about racism, although Al and Jesse turned it into that. Its about principle. Don't like that law?(stand your ground) Call your congresman and quit calling people who do not agree with you a racist.
Bang your head on the ground and what are you going to do?
 Quoting: Whitemike761


1) How does what I posted mean that "people can come steal my stuff?" Living in Texas I'm allowed a gun, and I will use it to protect my property; Zimmerman was not protecting his property. His property was never at risk. He was following a suspicious individual. Again, the purpose of neighborhood watch is to call the police and not put yourself or others at risk by not reading a situation correctly.
2) I cannot find any info, so I doubt you have the info, to back up your claim that "many people were glad" that he was the neighborhood watchman. In fact, I have found information (*in the past when first researching the case) that people asked police to ask him to stop patrolling. *This was a couple of weeks ago, all google searches bring up info for past couple of days. Hopefully I can find the story from a couple of weeks ago to back my claim.
3) I am referring to this board explicitly, not the MSM which I do agree is causing more issues and that Sharpton and Jackson are inflaming the situation as well. There is blatant, disgusting racism being spewed; my thoughts on this board are not because people disagree with me. To state that ALL black people (or White or Hispanic or Asian) are a certain way, that their ENTIRE culture is worthless/bad/stupid/etc. is racism. THAT is what I take issue with; everything else in the Trayvon Martin case is personal opinion and whatever personal feelings you have regarding the specifics and legalities of the case are your own personal conjecture.
To state that Trayvon deserved it because:
1) He was black
2) He was not-white
3) He was a "chimp"
4) He was a "thug n*gga"
5) He was a poor black kid
These are not reasons for someone to die; for someone to deserve to be shot and killed. If it were reversed and Martin shot Zimmerman I would STILL feel this way.
If it were a white man shot and killed I would STILL feel this way.
All of this stems from an over zealous neighborhood watchman; it was not racism, stereotyping or anything else. It was a tragic situation and two families lives are ruined.
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What is "the MSM" why do people keep calling it "the MSM" why not just MSM?

I cant figure out if your talking about MSNBC or MSN website, WHAT?
 Quoting: MK LOKO


MSM = mainstream media.
I prefer to call them "the LSM," lamestream media.
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Can Zimmerman counter-sue ABC and the whole mainstream media maggotville circus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377396


Only if the 'circus' sues him first, otherwise there would be nothing to 'counter'.
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He can sue them for defamation of character. If anyone's character has been defamed, it's George Zimmerman's.
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson

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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


Post you address. People know they can come and steal your stuff.
In my teen years I was stoped by neighborhood watch, on a few occasions, never busted anyone in the face for it. Sure, I walked away thinking those guys were assholes. No excuse for assault.
Self appointed or not, many people in that neighborhood were glad he was doing what he was doing. Follow is the word, not stalk. Save that drama for your momma
Private property means he can follow him.
For some of us, it isn;t about racism, although Al and Jesse turned it into that. Its about principle. Don't like that law?(stand your ground) Call your congresman and quit calling people who do not agree with you a racist.
Bang your head on the ground and what are you going to do?
 Quoting: Whitemike761


1) How does what I posted mean that "people can come steal my stuff?" Living in Texas I'm allowed a gun, and I will use it to protect my property; Zimmerman was not protecting his property. His property was never at risk. He was following a suspicious individual. Again, the purpose of neighborhood watch is to call the police and not put yourself or others at risk by not reading a situation correctly.
2) I cannot find any info, so I doubt you have the info, to back up your claim that "many people were glad" that he was the neighborhood watchman. In fact, I have found information (*in the past when first researching the case) that people asked police to ask him to stop patrolling. *This was a couple of weeks ago, all google searches bring up info for past couple of days. Hopefully I can find the story from a couple of weeks ago to back my claim.
3) I am referring to this board explicitly, not the MSM which I do agree is causing more issues and that Sharpton and Jackson are inflaming the situation as well. There is blatant, disgusting racism being spewed; my thoughts on this board are not because people disagree with me. To state that ALL black people (or White or Hispanic or Asian) are a certain way, that their ENTIRE culture is worthless/bad/stupid/etc. is racism. THAT is what I take issue with; everything else in the Trayvon Martin case is personal opinion and whatever personal feelings you have regarding the specifics and legalities of the case are your own personal conjecture.
To state that Trayvon deserved it because:
1) He was black
2) He was not-white
3) He was a "chimp"
4) He was a "thug n*gga"
5) He was a poor black kid
These are not reasons for someone to die; for someone to deserve to be shot and killed. If it were reversed and Martin shot Zimmerman I would STILL feel this way.
If it were a white man shot and killed I would STILL feel this way.
All of this stems from an over zealous neighborhood watchman; it was not racism, stereotyping or anything else. It was a tragic situation and two families lives are ruined.
 Quoting: Leda123


Ok. You and I both are not motivated by race in our opinions. That may be about all we can agree on. I have seen alot of blatant racism on both side of this incident. I think he had every right to stand his ground and you do not. It is really just a matter of opinion for us, always has been. Its in the hands of the courts now, but when I took my laptop to work and showed the news reporter talking to a witness to the fight all my black friends and associates were shocked. It really is much more complicated than "white guy kills black kid" Obama,Al,Jesse and the MSM sure stired this one good
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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


You say if you were Trayvon, you would try to find out what he wanted. Then you say when Trayvon ran away, Zimmerman should have gone back to his house.

No, Trayvon should have gone back to the house where he was staying. Zimmerman was trying to stop a potential crime. It wouldn't make sense for him to go home. By all accounts, what he did was go back to his car and Trayvon confronted him. I guess in that sense, he took your advice.
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson

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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


You say if you were Trayvon, you would try to find out what he wanted. Then you say when Trayvon ran away, Zimmerman should have gone back to his house.

No, Trayvon should have gone back to the house where he was staying. Zimmerman was trying to stop a potential crime. It wouldn't make sense for him to go home. By all accounts, what he did was go back to his car and Trayvon confronted him. I guess in that sense, he took your advice.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Zimmerman was not an officer, he should not have been pretending to be one, he should have stayed at home, not followed Trayvon and let the cops handle it.
If Trayvon were raping somone, assaulting someone, anything that would require immediate intervention then yes, Zimmerman should have intervened. In this though, this was stupidity and it ended the life of an individual who was, at the time, doing nothing wrong.
Yes, if I were Trayvon I would have asked Zimmerman if there was a problem. No one knows what really happened between Zimmerman and Martin after that; we will find out at the trial, hopefully. If not, then the let the justice system work it out and let God or Whomever sort out the rest.
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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
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How many times have we seen this over the years where some of these black leaders (usually a reverend) rushes in to save the poor victims of these cases when the victim is black and the perpetrator is white?
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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
 Quoting: Leda123


It was Zimmerman's neighborhood. He lived there. Unlike Travon. I haven't seen a anything saying he was patrolling the area without the residents' consent.

If I lived there, I would be glad citizens were patrolling, since there had been several break-ins in the past.
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson

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How many times have we seen this over the years where some of these black leaders (usually a reverend) rushes in to save the poor victims of these cases when the victim is black and the perpetrator is white?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551877


Most of the times it turns out the poor "victim" was guilty of something.
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson

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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
 Quoting: Leda123


His Dad is retired Navy, meaning, he did not need Georges protection. Im sure Dad can handle a firearm. He wasn't a neighborhood watchman, he was the captain. Self appointed or not. Noone must have been at the meeting to dispute this appointment. Whether you like it or not, he had every right to patrol PRIVATE PROPERTY. Neighbors concerned about crime should have attended the neighborhood watch meetings, they didn't, so they cannot bitch about how it is handled after the fact. Those types of HOA's put out monthly newsletters and I would bet $100 against a doughnut that they seeked volunteers. The man had every legal right to do what he was doing and Trayvon had no legal right to assault him. It is that simple
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I see a LOT of bias about how GZ was in the right cause he saw a suspicious black man in his neighborhood and that's why this went down how it did.

Let me ask you all to be 100% honest with me if you feel that way.

If you where out at night in your own neighborhood, and headed for home, and saw some strange Mexican man acting weird how would you react?

Would you move on or try and loose him then double back and see what he was up to? Given the chance would you jump this guy hoping to disable him then call the cops and be a hero for stopping a bad guy?

So many people say because TM was black and a teen in a hoodie he cam off as up to no good. How many of you would see a GZ in your area and think, "That Mexican is up to no good!"? Especially in a state known to harbor illegals?

See how easy it is to let racial bias guide you to do something stupid?

This whole situation could have so very easily turned out with a different dead person. The sad reality is it only happened because of racial profiling and bigoted stereotypes that just will not die in this day and age.

I don't just weep for GZ and TM and their families. I weep for America as a whole. God we so badly need to grow up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14368245


i dont believe for a second that this had anything to do with race... he was neighborhood watch, and was watching the neighborhood... i also dont think tm was doing anything wrong... he was spotted out in the open... i was a teen on the streets... if i was walking at night in the open, i was just walking, if i was hiding in the shadows, i was up to no good... it was a tragedy... one of those things... the fact is, if z wanted to shoot some black thug, his gun would have been drawn and no fight would have taken place... but there was a fight or struggle before any shot was fired... that says a lot right there... he only reason you even know about this case is because the msm wanted you to an it is whatever spin THEY decide on that will be remembered the masses... i believe that this race this is being set up as a precursor for something big that is about to happen which i will not dare to say on the internet.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14348954


No I get you man. My point is that it could have played out the other way.

The issue I have is why the FUCK does a guy that is supposed to just be neighborhood WATCH carry a loaded weapon?

And more to the point why use it rather than leave the area and let the cops do their job?

Don't prowl your own neighborhood at night when criminals might be around. Let the cops do the job they are there for and keep your ass at home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14368245


Believe it or NOT, in Florida a law abiding citizen can actually get a concealed carry permit. WOW, you actually have a fighting chance against the armed criminals, or even a rogue police officer. My, what a concept.

Most people do not understand what an honor and privilege it is NOT to be an unarmed slave/peasant.

I go the fuck out of LA, CA, as soon as I could and now reside in a small rural town in Northern/Central AZ. I am allowed to conceal or open carry, and I do!

Crime rates tend to be lower in states where citizens are allowed to carry. Crime rates are through the rough where they are not.

By the way, it does NOT matter what color you are here in AZ, you can carry. My only suggestion is that you train and don't be stupid because you can easily go from law abiding citizen with a gun, to dumbshit thug.
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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
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His Dad is retired Navy, meaning, he did not need Georges protection. Im sure Dad can handle a firearm. He wasn't a neighborhood watchman, he was the captain. Self appointed or not. Noone must have been at the meeting to dispute this appointment. Whether you like it or not, he had every right to patrol PRIVATE PROPERTY. Neighbors concerned about crime should have attended the neighborhood watch meetings, they didn't, so they cannot bitch about how it is handled after the fact. Those types of HOA's put out monthly newsletters and I would bet $100 against a doughnut that they seeked volunteers. The man had every legal right to do what he was doing and Trayvon had no legal right to assault him. It is that simple
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He was in repeated trouble with the law and has a battery assault charge against a police officer in 2005!
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CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
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ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
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You are arguing against your point; if the crime was bad enough to warrant a neighborhood watchman then they should have appointed one; they didn't need one, asked repeatedly for Zimmerman to stop, he didn't; they were bitching about how it was handled because they DIDN'T WANT HIM THERE.
Zimmerman was living with his parents because he failed at everything he did: his marriage, his job, and he flunked out of school.
He is not a tax paying functional member of society at 28 years old.
This alone should make you re-think your lily-white view of Mr. Zimmerman.
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Not retired navy, his dad IS A FORMER JUDGE!
This guy had a good lawyer, his father, Robert J. Zimmerman, a former Judge (reportedly VA State Supreme Court). (ON EDIT: CNN states the father is a "retired Magistrate Judge."More about Zimmerman
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I dont know folks

he seems guilty to me

I wasn't sure but some of the things he said makes me think he went rogue after the call.

why did he tell the cops to call him cause he didn't know where he'd be?

he could have waited for them at the clubhouse or him his car?

maybe it's just bad luck but doesn't look good for Zimmerman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5814422


How bout we just ignore what we are willfully being feed here!?

A Mexican killed a 6 Foot 3 Inch 160 Pound 17 Year Old Black Male..the end.

Until the case is over why let yourselves be used as bait in Obamas UN Scheme?

The End..No more on this non-issue.
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he's not mexican.
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He lost track of Tray and felt like he was being hunted. You can tell when he regrets giving out his address on the phone, he actually mentions it. Smart guy, don't tell the dispatcher your home address while being hunted.

So he went quiet to keep his guard up. Tray was palying this guy like cat n mouse. Except this time the mouse got the cat.


Sad thing is, if Tray killed Zimmerman, No one would've heard about anything. No justice, no outrage, no Al "Shart" Shartpton, No Obama-naughts rioting.....
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I totally agree. And let me share a story:

So I run a lot, stay in pretty decent shape, at least enough where you probably wouldn't want to mess with me if I went running by. So one day I was running down a street in my neighborhood like I've done a million times but this time there was a pack of "children" 16-18 (I won't mention race but take a wild guess) just standing around a stop sign. I didn't make eye contact (on purpose) and just kept running by. All of the sudden two of them jumped out and started running right next to me. My first thought was "FUCK", they ran beside me REALLY CLOSE yelling some shit then finally peeled away. I swear they wanted me to do something, ANTYHING to provoke an attack on me, but I just sped up - a LOT - and got my ass outta there.

So, I totally understand what the fuck this "child" TM was doing - same shit as those kids. Play "wanna be thug" and try to get a white guy all pissed so they can go apeshit and have some fun. I weep for what has happened to the black community.

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i dont believe for a second that this had anything to do with race... he was neighborhood watch, and was watching the neighborhood... i also dont think tm was doing anything wrong... he was spotted out in the open... i was a teen on the streets... if i was walking at night in the open, i was just walking, if i was hiding in the shadows, i was up to no good... it was a tragedy... one of those things... the fact is, if z wanted to shoot some black thug, his gun would have been drawn and no fight would have taken place... but there was a fight or struggle before any shot was fired... that says a lot right there... he only reason you even know about this case is because the msm wanted you to an it is whatever spin THEY decide on that will be remembered the masses... i believe that this race this is being set up as a precursor for something big that is about to happen which i will not dare to say on the internet.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14348954


No I get you man. My point is that it could have played out the other way.

The issue I have is why the FUCK does a guy that is supposed to just be neighborhood WATCH carry a loaded weapon?

And more to the point why use it rather than leave the area and let the cops do their job?

Don't prowl your own neighborhood at night when criminals might be around. Let the cops do the job they are there for and keep your ass at home.
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if all people carried loaded weapons, there would be less crime... and did you just say let the cops do their job??? that's a good one... btw... active neighborhood watch patrol their neighborhood, that what they are there for, that's what they do... zim had caught and detained people in the past... but never shot them... this time a dude with a thug mentality was street-fighting an armed man and lost... that's it... it could have played out different, but didn't... it happens.
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Look me in the eye as a thinking person and tell me a guy ,who has failed to pass the police exam repeatable, carrying a loaded weapon at night was not looking for a confrontation.

I've known many people on a neighborhood watch here in Texas and they don't walk around with a loaded gun. They carry a walkie talkie and phone. They are there to observe not to act on something that is the police's domain.
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Yeah, but I bet if a 6 foot 3 inch person was pounding on them and they were calling for help, but nobody came, they wished they were armed.

Apparently you live in state where ONLY the criminals and police have guns. Fuck that. I left CA 10 months ago and will leave AZ if its gun laws change as well.

I tried becoming a Peace Officer for about 12 year a long time ago. Apparently they do NOT like honest Constitutionally minded people, plus there were minority quotas, etc... I carry open, concealed, and sometimes both. The gun stays put unless I or someone else is going to die, about to die, or a possibility of death from major bodily harm. I will not shoot some thug for stealing my car stereo, or cutting me off in traffic.

Should everyone carry? Probably not, but that should not keep the rest of us from this right.
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2005-CF-009525-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983

07/18/2005
Div 10
OKane, Julie H

Criminal Felony
Closed

CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
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07/18/2005
Orlando
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Misdemeanor
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2005-DR-012980-O

ZUAZO, VERONICA vs. ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M

08/09/2005
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Domestic Violence
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2005-DR-013069-O

ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M vs. ZUAZO, VERONICA A

08/10/2005
Div 46
White, Keith F

Domestic Violence
Closed - SRS


This guy had a good lawyer, his father, Robert J. Zimmerman, a former Judge (reportedly VA State Supreme Court). (ON EDIT: CNN states the father is a "retired Magistrate Judge."More about Zimmerman:



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Reason for target: Shot and killed a black teen carrying a small amount of cash, some skittles, and a tea. Shooter (George Michael Zimmerman ) shot the boy because he thought the bag of skittles was a weapon. 3.
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Zimmerman, a criminal justice major, and neighborhood watch captain, was released after claiming to have shot Martin in self-defense and reportedly having a clean criminal record. Those reports, however, are false. “According to Orange County (FL) online court records, Zimmerman was in fact charged with felony assault on a police officer back in 2005
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Home info: This is a 1559 square foot, 2.5 bathroom, single family home. It is located at 1874 Valley Wood Way Lake Mary, Florida. This home is in the Seminole County School District. The nearest schools are Woodlands Elementary School, Greenwood Lakes Middle School and Lake Mary High School.
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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
 Quoting: Leda123


His Dad is retired Navy, meaning, he did not need Georges protection. Im sure Dad can handle a firearm. He wasn't a neighborhood watchman, he was the captain. Self appointed or not. Noone must have been at the meeting to dispute this appointment. Whether you like it or not, he had every right to patrol PRIVATE PROPERTY. Neighbors concerned about crime should have attended the neighborhood watch meetings, they didn't, so they cannot bitch about how it is handled after the fact. Those types of HOA's put out monthly newsletters and I would bet $100 against a doughnut that they seeked volunteers. The man had every legal right to do what he was doing and Trayvon had no legal right to assault him. It is that simple
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He was in repeated trouble with the law and has a battery assault charge against a police officer in 2005!
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CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983
You are arguing against your point; if the crime was bad enough to warrant a neighborhood watchman then they should have appointed one; they didn't need one, asked repeatedly for Zimmerman to stop, he didn't; they were bitching about how it was handled because they DIDN'T WANT HIM THERE.
Zimmerman was living with his parents because he failed at everything he did: his marriage, his job, and he flunked out of school.
He is not a tax paying functional member of society at 28 years old.
This alone should make you re-think your lily-white view of Mr. Zimmerman.
 Quoting: Leda123


If they did't want him they should have gotten off the couch and attended a watch meeting. They didn't.
Those charges were dropped. The man had to have a background check to get a concealed carry permit.
Lily white? I do not claim that. I am claiming that, according to Floridas stand you ground law, he had every right to do what he did. Tragic? Yes. Murder? NO
His marriage? 50% of marriages fail
Flunked ouy of school? About as relevent as Trayvons suspensions
His job? He was employed when this happened. You are trying to smear him like people are trying to smear Trayvon
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And who's property was Zimmerman protecting? If he were at home, protecting his own home, then why would he be in his car? A neighborhood watchman appointed by the neighborhood would have a civic duty to patrol the area; he was not a neighborhood appointed watchman, therefor he had no valid reason to be AWAY from his home (if there were repeated break-ins I would want my husband protecting me and my family, though he was living with his parents as he has failed at his own marriage, school and job). So I have to question Zimmerman's motivation to be in his car, in his parents neighborhood, patrolling the area without the residents consent, on a dark and rainy night.
Just think on that for a second.
 Quoting: Leda123


His Dad is retired Navy, meaning, he did not need Georges protection. Im sure Dad can handle a firearm. He wasn't a neighborhood watchman, he was the captain. Self appointed or not. Noone must have been at the meeting to dispute this appointment. Whether you like it or not, he had every right to patrol PRIVATE PROPERTY. Neighbors concerned about crime should have attended the neighborhood watch meetings, they didn't, so they cannot bitch about how it is handled after the fact. Those types of HOA's put out monthly newsletters and I would bet $100 against a doughnut that they seeked volunteers. The man had every legal right to do what he was doing and Trayvon had no legal right to assault him. It is that simple
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He was in repeated trouble with the law and has a battery assault charge against a police officer in 2005!
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CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983
You are arguing against your point; if the crime was bad enough to warrant a neighborhood watchman then they should have appointed one; they didn't need one, asked repeatedly for Zimmerman to stop, he didn't; they were bitching about how it was handled because they DIDN'T WANT HIM THERE.
Zimmerman was living with his parents because he failed at everything he did: his marriage, his job, and he flunked out of school.
He is not a tax paying functional member of society at 28 years old.
This alone should make you re-think your lily-white view of Mr. Zimmerman.
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If they did't want him they should have gotten off the couch and attended a watch meeting. They didn't.
Those charges were dropped. The man had to have a background check to get a concealed carry permit.
Lily white? I do not claim that. I am claiming that, according to Floridas stand you ground law, he had every right to do what he did. Tragic? Yes. Murder? NO
 Quoting: Whitemike761


I don't think it was murder either; I don't think the actions leading up to the shooting were technically illegal; I do think Zimmerman slipped through the cracks with the background check or obtained the gun illegally (maybe his father's weapon?) or had it before all of the arrests; the man had multiple arrests for assault and domestic violence, is it possible that he overreacted/instigated the conflict? He has a history of anger issues, apparently, so I'm not going to say that he was right in what he was doing or in a right state of mind to be handling this.
Who, other than Zimmerman himself and his family, that is a resident of that neighborhood, calls him "Neighborhood Watch Captain?" I've read/heard nothing about him being the officially appointed Captain. If Zimmerman and his family were the only ones who felt the need to be protected then he should have been "protecting" his own house. *A house that he doesn't financially support in any way or pay taxes on in any way. I don't understand how crashing at your parents house makes him a functioning member of the community.*
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2005-CF-009525-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983

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2005-DR-012980-O

ZUAZO, VERONICA vs. ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M

08/09/2005
Div 44
44, TBA

Domestic Violence
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2005-DR-013069-O

ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M vs. ZUAZO, VERONICA A

08/10/2005
Div 46
White, Keith F

Domestic Violence
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This guy had a good lawyer, his father, Robert J. Zimmerman, a former Judge (reportedly VA State Supreme Court). (ON EDIT: CNN states the father is a "retired Magistrate Judge."More about Zimmerman:



1.
Reason for target: Shot and killed a black teen carrying a small amount of cash, some skittles, and a tea. Shooter (George Michael Zimmerman ) shot the boy because he thought the bag of skittles was a weapon. 3.
George Michael Zimmerman
4.
Zimmerman, a criminal justice major, and neighborhood watch captain, was released after claiming to have shot Martin in self-defense and reportedly having a clean criminal record. Those reports, however, are false. “According to Orange County (FL) online court records, Zimmerman was in fact charged with felony assault on a police officer back in 2005
5.

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DOB: 10/05/1983 (28yrs old)
7.

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(407) 804-0348
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10.
1874 Valley Wood Way
11.
Lake Mary, FL 32746-6278
12.
Map: 13.
Home info: This is a 1559 square foot, 2.5 bathroom, single family home. It is located at 1874 Valley Wood Way Lake Mary, Florida. This home is in the Seminole County School District. The nearest schools are Woodlands Elementary School, Greenwood Lakes Middle School and Lake Mary High School.
14.

15.
Baths: 2.5
16.
Sqft: 1,559
17.
Type: Single Family
18.
Year built: 1997
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Last sold: June 24 2002 for $160,100
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21.
Family Members: Robert J Zimmerman (Father), Gladys C Zimmerman (Mother), Grace C Zimmerman
22.

23.
Social Networks:(ON EDIT: THIS IS NOT THE SAME ZIMMERMAN - leveymg)
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Criminal Record:
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Offense: Battery on law enforcement officer
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Offense Code: 784.07(2)(B)
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Court Record ID: 2005CF009525AOZIMGEO
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Source Name: Fl. Orange County Circuit and County Court
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Offense: Resisting officer with violence
35.
Offense Code: 843.01
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Court Record ID: 2005CF009525AOZIMGEO
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Source: Fl. Orange County Circuit and County Court
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Traffic Violations:
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2006-TR-219362-A-O
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0244RCN
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ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
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12/14/2006
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Orlando
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Officer, 98 Hearing
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Civil Traffic Infraction
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Closed
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TR- UNLAWFUL SPEED
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2006-TR-219364-A-O
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0245RCN
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ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
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12/14/2006
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Orlando
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Officer, 98 Hearing
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 Quoting: Leda123


Charges do not matter. Convictions do. If you are convicted of a assault charge you are not geting a concealed carry permit, Irelevent. A convicted felon can not even own a gun much less carry it. Smear tactics? I know all of that
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I listened to this entire thing, twice, and these are my conclusions:


THIS WAS ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FAULT FOR NOT ARRESTING ZIMMERMAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. ZIMMERMAN WAS DETAINED FOR QUESTIONING; THEY LET HIM GO. That being stated:

1) He was following Martin first; if I were Martin I would try and find out what he wanted.
2) I do not think Zimmerman was racist; I do believe that he instigated the whole ordeal and it is his fault for how things went down.
3) I find it hilarious that a Latino with a white name is considered white enough in this racist goddamn forum for the overtly racist pricks to validate him killing an unarmed teen.
4) He was not voted neighborhood watchman, he declared himself the neighborhood watchman. He had no right to stalk the kid first.
5) The minute Martin ran away Zimmerman should have gone back to his house. He did not quit following Martin. Zimmerman is at fault, should have been arrested.
 Quoting: Leda123


I think you missed out on the part where the 6 foot 3 inch person was pounding on GZ, GZ was yelling for help, no help came, GZ stopped the assault.

Here is the difference, GZ, like me, legally carries a gun. We actually have a chance to stop murders, armed robbers, rapists, etc... You and the unarmed have no chance, but to be murdered, raped, robed, etc... You think the police are there to protect you, sorry, this is NOT true.

Have a nice life. I hope you never end up in a bad neighborhood.
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Listen people! Stop the disimformation!!

First and formost. The Idea that Any Aggresive Unarmed Man/teenager is not a threat is ubsurd!!

Mark my words, I've taught all of my children that in the case they are attacked, involved in a fight, or jumped. Under no circumstances let the attacker get you on the ground, Period! Because when your on your back you are Now fighting for your life!

Make no mistake Im a 175lb man and I dont care if your a 300lb man if I manage to get you on the ground I could break your skull into pieces until your brain matter spills out with just the heel of my foot! Fact!

Why do you people think that there are Referees in boxing matches and MMA? They dont score the fight! They are there to help protect the fighters from killing each other which would be the inevitable result of two men left to fight it out with no intervention.

Children kill and have killed with absolutely no other weapons then there hands and feet. Right now as we type there are Children in custody for attempted murder and or Murder through unarmed assault! Or maybe they should be released because they obviously "posed no threat" since they were unarmed.

Cops have killed people with their hands and feet. People have killed cops with just their hands and feet. People have been killing people for thousands of years with just their hands and feet!!!

Wake up People! If you get in a fight and end up knocked unconscious, Who knows what happens after that? Your life is entirely in the hands of your opponent. The only reason more people don't die from fighting is because there is usually someone there to intervene. and in the rare cases when there isn't, well then that's when someone ends up dead.

Ask any MMA fighter and they will tell you street fighting alone is a life risk even with a simple choke. You don't understand the strength of an aggressive man when adrenaline is pouring through his veins.

The point being be careful who you attempt to fight with because they may just take your life. whether by hand, foot, knife, gun, rock, baseball bat, broom handle, tazer, fork, pencil etc....

Last thought.. How exactly did Cain kill Abel?

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