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Getting bored of Bitches User ID: 6199901 United Kingdom 04/14/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1; blacks are not ready for white technologies and/or 21st century. 2; whites should be blame for giving blacks some technologies too quickly by confusing blacks into madness. 3; white should slows down for another 20 centuries and let blacks catch up for that lame UN human right equalities. 4; blacks need to upgrade 20 light years DNA now to catch up with whites intellectual. 5; Our spirits sighs once again since we were all in many different types of races (let alone colour of our skins?) before and shall be again after. Get in the classical light bitches!. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10156930 United States 04/14/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes the truth hurts. European culture and moral behaviours, in very recent times, are far in advance of any other. Make no mistake that, if not for the rise of European colonialism, you could forget pretty much every technology we hold in our hands and take for granted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14206089 Expect very few replies, because your argument is true and is apparent to both sides of the argument whether they like it or not. Mr. Ireland, You can post emoticons all you want, but the fact of the matter is without those of Caucasian ancestry, there would be no modern technology. None. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1510656 United States 04/14/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to learn the difference between racism and prejudice. They are not the same. A racist just hates a group of people because they are in that group. Someone who is prejudice has learned to hold views about a group of people due to experiance. While both may be wrong the ones who are prejudice at least have a logical, perhaps flawed but still logical, reason for their views. Also being prejudice doesn't mean you have to shut youself off to the group you are prejudice towards. One can just take more care in their dealings with new members of that group when they first encounter them. It may be wrong to be racist but who can blame people for being prudently prejudice? The lines of racism and prejudice have been erased by society and that is WRONG. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14332094 United Kingdom 04/14/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to learn the difference between racism and prejudice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510656 They are not the same. A racist just hates a group of people because they are in that group. Someone who is prejudice has learned to hold views about a group of people due to experiance. While both may be wrong the ones who are prejudice at least have a logical, perhaps flawed but still logical, reason for their views. Also being prejudice doesn't mean you have to shut youself off to the group you are prejudice towards. One can just take more care in their dealings with new members of that group when they first encounter them. It may be wrong to be racist but who can blame people for being prudently prejudice? The lines of racism and prejudice have been erased by society and that is WRONG. Why do you people always say "prejudice" when the correct term is "prejudiced"? Why? Why do you do that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11076480 United States 04/14/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% pure white people there???.....ROTFLMAO. its the great White Utopia!!!!! Moldavia is a Swarthy Gyppo country! But the key point is that its 99% white and remains to this day the largest non-ethnic country in the world. Its white bread city. It should be a dream come true for OP. Total freedom from those "awful" black effects. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11076480 United States 04/14/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hilarious thread....and plus it only reinforces the concepts truth about racist people in this world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11076480 There are many OBVIOUS AND WELL DOCUMENTED reasons many blacks (among other minorities) have had and still do have problems adjusting to this country...and EVERY one of them is due to inequality. It has less to with race and everything to do with the following such as: 1. Being made slaves for cenruries. 2. Being shipped slaves in a country not your own. 3. Being slaves by people who consider you subhuman, worthless, etc....where for centuries you are hunted, abused, and discouraged from education, reading, learning based on the fact that you have different features from theirs. 4. After being from slavery....having no way to incorporate yourself into society for a fair chance at equality due to instituted Jim Crow laws for decades. To name a FEW. So OP you obviously dont like or care about black people. Dispite the fact that your people have been the most priveliged above all ethnicities here....and blacks have been the most cursed and afflicted...you want to constantly complain about the problems the you percieve about another race. You are clearly a RÀCIST. Your people have benifitted most from the slavery and destruction of black slaves here....and you dare scoff at the apparent problems they now have to deal with adjusting to this wreacked, plundered and disfunctional country the U.S. And thats fine. No harm, no fowl. You are what you are. A complaining, ignorant, selfish, racist. Best post here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 United States 04/14/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hilarious thread....and plus it only reinforces the concepts truth about racist people in this world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11076480 There are many OBVIOUS AND WELL DOCUMENTED reasons many blacks (among other minorities) have had and still do have problems adjusting to this country...and EVERY one of them is due to inequality. It has less to with race and everything to do with the following such as: 1. Being made slaves for cenruries. 2. Being shipped slaves in a country not your own. 3. Being slaves by people who consider you subhuman, worthless, etc....where for centuries you are hunted, abused, and discouraged from education, reading, learning based on the fact that you have different features from theirs. 4. After being from slavery....having no way to incorporate yourself into society for a fair chance at equality due to instituted Jim Crow laws for decades. To name a FEW. So OP you obviously dont like or care about black people. Dispite the fact that your people have been the most priveliged above all ethnicities here....and blacks have been the most cursed and afflicted...you want to constantly complain about the problems the you percieve about another race. You are clearly a RÀCIST. Your people have benifitted most from the slavery and destruction of black slaves here....and you dare scoff at the apparent problems they now have to deal with adjusting to this wreacked, plundered and disfunctional country the U.S. And thats fine. No harm, no fowl. You are what you are. A complaining, ignorant, selfish, racist. Best post here. Well, that may be a point. It's not a very good one though. Take the "poor Oppressed black" and see what happens when you take away the oppression. South Africa, a relatively well off country during the white rule. Has turned into a failed state with extreme problems since they got the blacks into government. Take all the former British Colonies in the Caribbean / Bahamas, They were relatively safe / well off before the British gave them their independence. Now it's crap central. Simple fact is, there are no countries in the world run by blacks that qualify as anything but Epic Fails. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6493463 United States 04/14/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to learn the difference between racism and prejudice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510656 They are not the same. A racist just hates a group of people because they are in that group. Someone who is prejudice has learned to hold views about a group of people due to experiance. While both may be wrong the ones who are prejudice at least have a logical, perhaps flawed but still logical, reason for their views. Also being prejudice doesn't mean you have to shut youself off to the group you are prejudice towards. One can just take more care in their dealings with new members of that group when they first encounter them. It may be wrong to be racist but who can blame people for being prudently prejudice? The lines of racism and prejudice have been erased by society and that is WRONG. Why do you people always say "prejudice" when the correct term is "prejudiced"? Why? Why do you do that? Because they cannot speak English. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6493463 United States 04/14/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hilarious thread....and plus it only reinforces the concepts truth about racist people in this world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11076480 There are many OBVIOUS AND WELL DOCUMENTED reasons many blacks (among other minorities) have had and still do have problems adjusting to this country...and EVERY one of them is due to inequality. It has less to with race and everything to do with the following such as: 1. Being made slaves for cenruries. 2. Being shipped slaves in a country not your own. 3. Being slaves by people who consider you subhuman, worthless, etc....where for centuries you are hunted, abused, and discouraged from education, reading, learning based on the fact that you have different features from theirs. 4. After being from slavery....having no way to incorporate yourself into society for a fair chance at equality due to instituted Jim Crow laws for decades. To name a FEW. So OP you obviously dont like or care about black people. Dispite the fact that your people have been the most priveliged above all ethnicities here....and blacks have been the most cursed and afflicted...you want to constantly complain about the problems the you percieve about another race. You are clearly a RÀCIST. Your people have benifitted most from the slavery and destruction of black slaves here....and you dare scoff at the apparent problems they now have to deal with adjusting to this wreacked, plundered and disfunctional country the U.S. And thats fine. No harm, no fowl. You are what you are. A complaining, ignorant, selfish, racist. Best post here. No "fowl"? How did chickens get into this discussion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11076480 United States 04/14/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, that may be a point. It's not a very good one though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Take the "poor Oppressed black" and see what happens when you take away the oppression. South Africa, a relatively well off country during the white rule. Has turned into a failed state with extreme problems since they got the blacks into government. Take all the former British Colonies in the Caribbean / Bahamas, They were relatively safe / well off before the British gave them their independence. Now it's crap central. Simple fact is, there are no countries in the world run by blacks that qualify as anything but Epic Fails. lol They're actually concrete facts. Not mere "points". South Africa is only "well off" in your eyes. About as "well off" as when Whites came here and destroyed the "savage" Native Americans and Mexican I guess. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1686135 United States 04/14/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hilarious thread....and plus it only reinforces the concepts truth about racist people in this world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11076480 There are many OBVIOUS AND WELL DOCUMENTED reasons many blacks (among other minorities) have had and still do have problems adjusting to this country...and EVERY one of them is due to inequality. It has less to with race and everything to do with the following such as: 1. Being made slaves for cenruries. 2. Being shipped slaves in a country not your own. 3. Being slaves by people who consider you subhuman, worthless, etc....where for centuries you are hunted, abused, and discouraged from education, reading, learning based on the fact that you have different features from theirs. 4. After being from slavery....having no way to incorporate yourself into society for a fair chance at equality due to instituted Jim Crow laws for decades. To name a FEW. So OP you obviously dont like or care about black people. Dispite the fact that your people have been the most priveliged above all ethnicities here....and blacks have been the most cursed and afflicted...you want to constantly complain about the problems the you percieve about another race. You are clearly a RÀCIST. Your people have benifitted most from the slavery and destruction of black slaves here....and you dare scoff at the apparent problems they now have to deal with adjusting to this wreacked, plundered and disfunctional country the U.S. And thats fine. No harm, no fowl. You are what you are. A complaining, ignorant, selfish, racist. Best post here. Agreed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14387288 Canada 04/14/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, that may be a point. It's not a very good one though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Take the "poor Oppressed black" and see what happens when you take away the oppression. South Africa, a relatively well off country during the white rule. Has turned into a failed state with extreme problems since they got the blacks into government. Take all the former British Colonies in the Caribbean / Bahamas, They were relatively safe / well off before the British gave them their independence. Now it's crap central. Simple fact is, there are no countries in the world run by blacks that qualify as anything but Epic Fails. lol They're actually concrete facts. Not mere "points". South Africa is only "well off" in your eyes. About as "well off" as when Whites came here and destroyed the "savage" Native Americans and Mexican I guess. Name me a country led by blacks that isn't the result of invasion by white Europeans. FACT: every damn State led by white people has become corrupt and tyrannical. FACTS: Everything you can make up to prove your racist, fanatic dogma. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14332094 United Kingdom 04/14/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to learn the difference between racism and prejudice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510656 They are not the same. A racist just hates a group of people because they are in that group. Someone who is prejudice has learned to hold views about a group of people due to experiance. While both may be wrong the ones who are prejudice at least have a logical, perhaps flawed but still logical, reason for their views. Also being prejudice doesn't mean you have to shut youself off to the group you are prejudice towards. One can just take more care in their dealings with new members of that group when they first encounter them. It may be wrong to be racist but who can blame people for being prudently prejudice? The lines of racism and prejudice have been erased by society and that is WRONG. Why do you people always say "prejudice" when the correct term is "prejudiced"? Why? Why do you do that? Because they cannot speak English. They spik Daniel Webster USenglish! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12835135 United States 04/14/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you CHOOSE to place people into groups, rather then see them for their individuality, YOU are the one boxing yourself into a stereo-typical, racial bias. For example, if you take someone who is classified as civilized - take away ALL his money, ALL his family, ALL his freedom and see if you don't get some sort of "uncivilized" retaliation, retribution or act of vengeance. On the flip side, if you take someone who is classified as "uncivilized" by today's standards and give them all the above plus the necessary resources to make a better life for him/herself - nine times out of ten they will. Mentalities fluctuate in life as do the wills of our souls. To classy people and "group" them, rather then treat everyone on an individual basis, only establishes barriers that you yourself have designed, constructed and fortified. Oh and I'm a 39 y/o, white conservative. I have friends of almost all races. I have an open mind, open heart and I'm not some nerdy geek who doesn't know how to maneuver and navigate through the melting pot of society. A little common sense goes along way in life, but then again you know what they say about common sense - it isn't so common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14377799 Ireland 04/14/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14377799 Well boy you must be living in a different UK than the one I was born and grew up in. Maybe you live in Kensington or something. The rest of the UK's got pretty much the same problems as the US. Bullshit, BOY! I'm a girl actually. And you must be a liberal. I didn't realize that there were black welfare ghettos in Ireland. D'uh. I said the UK where I was born and grew up in. It's not fit to live in any more, which is why I moved to Ireland. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14386569 Mexico 04/14/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was trying to decide whether to put this under my avatar or go AC, since even the anonymity of an avatar doesn't seem anonymous enough, but I figured I would take whatever came. This needs to be said. Quoting: TyWebb I am white and almost 40, very well-educated, within a couple of percentage points of the fabled 99%, and becoming increasingly racist as I get older. Maybe racist is not an accurate term, but certainly less "tolerant". This phenomenon is in precise opposition to what I was taught to expect. I grew up in a liberal, East Coast school system, where there were few evils in history perceived to be more noxious than racism and anti-semitism. The root of it all, of course, was ignorance. Blind, stupid ignorance, compounded by provincialism and irrational fears of the "other". We were taught to be enlightened, to understand that all men are equal, all cultures have their strengths and weaknesses, and that, while not explicitly stated, whites have committed a litany of sins against blacks and Indians, in particular, and other races in general. Become educated, become worldly, and escape our racist heritage, we were told. I absorbed it all. My parents were conservatives. And while I wasn't deaf to their objections to the ideas I brought home, I more or less bought into the arguments for various racially-corrective social programs. But then, it wasn't exactly a fair fight. I was cheered by all for spouting the accepted wisdom, especially teachers, but one false step in the other direction brought out the "racist" label - a social death sentence. So I learned to accept the conventional wisdom as the truth and joined many other well-meaning young, white Gen-Xers in bending-over-backwards, both morally and logically, to ensure that, whatever the issue, race and culture were removed from the argument, apologies were made for any suggestion otherwise, and those stupid enough to identify race or culture as causes of hurt were rightfully isolated and humiliated. Eventually I escaped the echo chambers of various schools and stumbled into the real world. Without an assured professor or self-righteous peers to correct me, I found my carefully constructed shibboleths getting cracks. Bad behavior by blacks met by guilt and apologies for my whiteness met by more bad behavior by blacks met by more back-bending by myself met by more bad behavior met by astounding circusesque mental acrobatics met by yet more bad behavior and then, finally, a slowly dawning WTF moment. I was as educated and as well-read as they come. I had started out "enlightened" with a fantastic fortress built against even the whiff of racism. And here I was, experience slowly submerging education, becoming increasingly racist, or more precisely, culturist. Seeing the patterns of behavior emerge over and over again, by the same stereotypical human beings. Finding that my ability to predict behavior based on a cursory physical evaluation of the individual, with race as a major factor, was far into the tail end of the probability curve. What emerged was a simple fact, a FACT (at least in my mind), is that whites and blacks in the U.S. are not at all alike, and while I tend to be feel there is little genetic basis to the disparity, it is undeniable to anyone willing to look at facts that Black American Culture is massively inferior to White American Culture. Not only is it inferior, but it is inferior enough as a culture, that I do not believe a functional, prosperous, remotely democratic civilization could survive long in the absence of the crutch that is White American Culture. Now before I get some batshit responses, let me state the obvious fact that seems overlooked whenever one makes a generalization like this. I am speaking in the aggregate. Of course, there are superlative black individuals, just as there are horrific white monsters. More precisely, there are superlative people who embrace Black American Culture just as there are horrific monsters who embrace White American Culture. But as an aggregate, the values championed by White American Culture are superior for the creation of a just, happy, and long-lived civilization than those championed by Black American Culture. Anyway, I wanted to get that off my chest. As a white man who has spent his whole life very conscious of the basic unfairness of treating an individual differently because of an unchangeable feature of birth such as skin color, I have spent my life climbing out of the trap that equates that basic act of unfairness with the quite rational and necessary act of critically judging a culture that, in this case, happens to be largely composed of a single race. They are not the same thing. One is racism and ignorance. The other is logic and truth. With that gauntlet thrown, I invite anyone to prove the above paragraphs incorrect. I would love to crawl back into my comfortable shell made of cozy, heart-warming ideas about the equality of white and black culture. Show me the way, if you can. --------------- There is no problem in life. All problems are in the mind and no in life. I am surprised you have not looked deeper. Everything is energy. All is light. A white person is made up of electrons, protons neutrons etc. a black person or anyone else for that matter is made of the same. THe tree is composed of the same . The chair you are sitting on is just molecules in motion.All is energy and the space between objects is energy. So you consider yourself white and you have /had nothing to do with it.Did you choose your parents? Did you choose whee you would be born? Did you choose what race you would be? The values white culture is what? The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the murdering of many innocent Asians is what? The slaughter of jewish people in Nazi Germany is what? YOu claim your values are so superior yet your culture has not held to them at all. Even Jesus said you without sin cast the first stone. Are you qualified to throw the stone? I don't think anyone can pick up the stone for all have sinned. Meaning everyone black or white. It says to love one another. Have you done that? 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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11076480 United States 04/14/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, that may be a point. It's not a very good one though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Take the "poor Oppressed black" and see what happens when you take away the oppression. South Africa, a relatively well off country during the white rule. Has turned into a failed state with extreme problems since they got the blacks into government. Take all the former British Colonies in the Caribbean / Bahamas, They were relatively safe / well off before the British gave them their independence. Now it's crap central. Simple fact is, there are no countries in the world run by blacks that qualify as anything but Epic Fails. lol They're actually concrete facts. Not mere "points". South Africa is only "well off" in your eyes. About as "well off" as when Whites came here and destroyed the "savage" Native Americans and Mexican I guess. Name me a country led by blacks that isn't the result of invasion by white Europeans. FACT: every damn State led by white people has become corrupt and tyrannical. FACTS: Everything you can make up to prove your racist, fanatic dogma. lol So, exactly which of the previous "made up points" would you to disprove first? The Slavery of Black in the Translatlantic Slave Trade? The Shipment of said slaves to the Americas among other place? The Centuries of slavery? or the Jim Crow Laws? All facts you racist Moron. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284239 United States 04/14/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <i>Now, about the Native American Culture, without the Native Americans the settlers would not have survived. And ...then...they slaughtered them all. Real civilized guys</i> Very late coming to this thread,but wow,it sure is a busy one! I'd like to make a response to the poster that made that assertion that without the Native Americans those first settlers wouldn't have survived. My response is that very possibly the <i>first batch</i> of European settlers wouldn't have survived. But even if that first wave had died of cold and starvation,I'm willing to bet that there would have been a second wave,and they wouldn't have made the same mistakes that led to the bitter end of the first batch. Humans are amazingly adaptable,and if you look at a map,a sailing trip from Europe to North America isn't all that difficult for a maritime culture. Especially a maritime culture willing to island hop and didn't mind a voyage that lasted a few seasons. North America would have been populated by Europeans sooner or later,and the clash between Native American culture and European culture would have almost certainly happened regardless of who was the first to have starved,or who was the first to have bashed in the head of the opposing culture member. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14386569 Mexico 04/14/2012 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another good reason why blacks should not use any white technologies. Quoting: Getting bored of Bitches 6199901 1; blacks are not ready for white technologies and/or 21st century. 2; whites should be blame for giving blacks some technologies too quickly by confusing blacks into madness. 3; white should slows down for another 20 centuries and let blacks catch up for that lame UN human right equalities. 4; blacks need to upgrade 20 light years DNA now to catch up with whites intellectual. 5; Our spirits sighs once again since we were all in many different types of races (let alone colour of our skins?) before and shall be again after. Get in the classical light bitches!. ----------- Some whites like you shouldn't use white technologies. Anyway what have you contributed to technology? Are you a white intellectual? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2169888 United States 04/14/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm white. Please don't take it upon yourself to speak for me. Most of the dumbest, ignorant people I know are white. I also grew up in a family full of racists and it makes me sick. I'm not under any delusions that black racism towards whites exists as well. But count me out. I prefer to deal with individuals on an individual level. |