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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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Just to be clear to some boneheaded posters on here:

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793


Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.
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If there aren't different definitions why do we have a Citizens, Naturalized citizen and Natural Born citizens? Why not just call everyone citizens?

There's obviously some kind of distinction.
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Citizen is a class which has natural born and naturalized. Naturalized is anyone who becomes a citizen that wasn't born a citizen. BIRTHERS PROVE THEY ARE MORONS WHEN THEY REPEAT THIS QUESTION
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If that were true you'd only need citizens and Naturalized citizens.
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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That's a very good point. By pure definition, Obama supporters are saying anchor babies, being born on US soil to 2 illegal aliens are Natural Born citizens.
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Quality of shills has really gone downhill.
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seriously bro, you're telling me.
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


I think a lot of their best shills have most likely quit in disgust and pursued more fulfilling work.

Like slicing the roast beef at Arby's.
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Ms. Hill (the young lawyer) is hot.
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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That's a very good point. By pure definition, Obama supporters are saying anchor babies, being born on US soil to 2 illegal aliens are Natural Born citizens.
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That's exactly what they are saying.
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It is obvious to me that you are not interested in Truth.

Totally Eirann, don't worry this flea flicker is just a lapdog and you got through to me with your Statement:


"So your continual trolling is not only ridiculous, it shows your absolute disregard for the Constitution this country is guided by and your absolute loathing of any American who questions the establishment."

Hats off to you, well said and well done, oh troll warrior.
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You're not a troll :)

hugs Thank you for kind words :)
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Well Karma to you for hanging in there.

That was one rude dude.
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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No. They are Citizens.
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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That's a very good point. By pure definition, Obama supporters are saying anchor babies, being born on US soil to 2 illegal aliens are Natural Born citizens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


That's exactly what they are saying.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Yep. And the MAJOR point they are refusing to consider is the need to have a Natural Born Citizen classification at all. Obviously, there's a distinction and the only one that would make sense is being born on US soil of 2 citizen parents.

The reality is they don't give a shit as long as its their man.
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Let me guess, not a single drip drop of media coverage?

not even faux news, obama's enemies? (haha yeah right)
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Native/natural born are the same fucking thing according to SCOTUS who uses them both in the same context. FUCKING MORON.
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would you post a link to that, so i can educate myself?
 Quoting: xxl


It'd be great if OP or any other dumb ass could post a link regarding the supposed admittance to forgery by Obama's lawyer that isn't from some bullshit blog. But they can't, cause it never happened.
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Ooop...second shift is here.
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WOW. You honestly think there was a fucking court hearing and yet some fuckface from a blog was actually fucking there to recount the testimony?

HOW? Please explain to me how some blogger even got into the court room to listen to Obama's explanation? Please explain to me how, if said blogger wasn't actually there in the court room, said blogger knows what the fuck was said if no other media source is reporting on it? You are as dumb as shit.
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Let me guess, not a single drip drop of media coverage?

not even faux news, obama's enemies? (haha yeah right)
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Let me tell you, if it wasn't illegal, you could take these GLPer fuck tards for every penny they are worth as long as you posted your "facts" on some livejournal blog and it involved a conspiracy of some sort or another.
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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No. They are Citizens.
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but not really; at least to real constitution believing Americans anyway..
and neither is obama.
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Just to be clear to some boneheaded posters on here:

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793


Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767


I can't believe I have read this nonsense more than once. All you have to do is read the original Constitution and it says right in there that a man must have been born within the United States of America to be eligible for President.

It's right there in the Constitution and it was taught in school for decades.

This truth did not just cease to be true when the Rotchschild-Vatican network decided to change history again.

It is still true.

And it is probably true that Obama was born in Kenya, so... he was never eligible.
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Let me guess, not a single drip drop of media coverage?

not even faux news, obama's enemies? (haha yeah right)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11511359


Let me tell you, if it wasn't illegal, you could take these GLPer fuck tards for every penny they are worth as long as you posted your "facts" on some livejournal blog and it involved a conspiracy of some sort or another.
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Of course, the problem is your average schizoprhenic on GLP is on government aid per their mental illness. While they clearly understand, "hey, the state deemed me mentally ill, i get free money" they are unable to understand that due to their mental illness that is clearly so great they can not function in the real world, they somehow believe their mental faculties that let them deal with the real world are somehow not totally fucked beyond all repair. It's why I hate schizophrenics.
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Just to be clear to some boneheaded posters on here:

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793


Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767


I can't believe I have read this nonsense more than once. All you have to do is read the original Constitution and it says right in there that a man must have been born within the United States of America to be eligible for President.

It's right there in the Constitution and it was taught in school for decades.

This truth did not just cease to be true when the Rotchschild-Vatican network decided to change history again.

It is still true.

And it is probably true that Obama was born in Kenya, so... he was never eligible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13328829


Exactly!
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This is a congressional perspective in 1866.


Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
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Are Mexican anchor babies Natural Born Citizens?
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No. They are Citizens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793


but not really; at least to real constitution believing Americans anyway..
and neither is obama.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14117756


Was the 14th Amendment not ratified?! I mean, that IS a part of the Constitution.

You DO know that the whole issue steams from prejudice in the first place don't you? The founding fathers weren't too keen on new comers being President. Not because they could possible be bad Presidents and act to destroy the new Republic, there were safe guards for that (3 branches, states being co-equal at the time). They were just prejudice against foreigners at the time.

Still, even that being the case, the Constitution itself is a mere "suggestion" to government as the government ignores it.

Further, if the Constitution was respected and followed to the "T" - the actual language and its original intent would still need to be followed. The accepted legal definition of Natural Born means born of two citizens. This whole aspect is unrelated to the the 14th amendment and has nothing to do with citizenship status.

Definitions of Natural Born are pretty clear. Definitions of Citizen are too. We have naturalized citizens as well. All these legal definitions confuse people, hence the anger from Obama supporters and Liberals/Progressives.
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The army needs to arrest the whole Obama administration and the DNC leadership for fraud.
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Where is the proof?? must have missed it..
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Me2


Even if you do not believe the BC is fake there are these two undisputable facts.

1) His claimed father was NEVER a US Citizen, thus rendering him ineligible.
2) He studied as an Indonesian citizen (Only way he could be allowed to study there...) in his childhood, thus forfeiting his natural born status.


Now say what you want.


He is not eligible.

Romney is not either because he is not a product of two natural born citizens.

His father was born in Mexico.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


FUCKING BIRTHER LIAR.

1) If you are born in the US, even if your father is Godzilla, you are a natural born US citizen. FUCK OFF about false claims of parents.

2) FUCKING MORON. He did not need citizenship to go to school in Indonesia. And you don't just lose it at his age -- he had to petition for it and it would be public record. FUCK OFF LIAR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767


Jesus kid, shouldn't you be down for a nap or something?
When you wake up, meditate on this:

Obama is a citizen of the United States, but he's not a "natural born citizen" of the United States, and, as such, is not eligible for POTUS, because his father, a Kenyan, was not a U. S. citizen.
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correct!!!!
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This is a congressional perspective in 1866.


Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
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No, that wasn't the Congressional Perspective. It was Rep. John A. Bingham's perspective.
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He is cia he was groomed for this role & why no matter how loud we yell he is a fraud, the 'right' people aren't paying attention! Lolo Sotero (cia puppet that engineered the coop & killed 500k), Bam bam's stepfather, was the key liaison between Mobil/Stanvac and the Suharto regime. Strange don't you think since his mom was supposed to be some far lefty!? Any true student radical would have refused to eat lunch with a Sotero/Mobil functionary.


Further, Peter Geithner (said to be cia & turbo tax cheat Timothy's father) oversaw the 'microfinance' programs developed in Indonesia by Ann Dunham-Soetoro, Bam bam’s mother. You think they played together as children? MY GUESS IS ABSOULTELY! & they both were GROOMED for their positions!

So all you deniers can sit down & shut up!!! I'm so sick of people actually supporting this usper, how can you w/ a clear conscious is beyond me . . . .the PROOF is piling up & NO ONE wants to ADDRESS IT BEFORE THE ELECTION, ASK YOURSELF WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!! I'M A PROUD 'BIRTHER'! Which is just a term used to stifle discussion. & WILL NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT UNTIL I'M TEN FEET UNDERrant.

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Last Edited by Angell on 04/14/2012 06:09 PM
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It is obvious to me that you are not interested in Truth.

Totally Eirann, don't worry this flea flicker is just a lapdog and you got through to me with your Statement:


"So your continual trolling is not only ridiculous, it shows your absolute disregard for the Constitution this country is guided by and your absolute loathing of any American who questions the establishment."

Hats off to you, well said and well done, oh troll warrior.
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You're not a troll :)

hugs Thank you for kind words :)
 Quoting: Éireann


Well Karma to you for hanging in there.

That was one rude dude.
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Meh. Paid 9 to 5 shill. Well, to be exact...9 to 5:30. Good on him.
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I see that, as usual, the GLP idiots are out in force. THIS WHOLE THREAD IS A HOAX. The DNC lawyer never ever says Obama's BC is false. That's just a birther lie.

I have watched the damn video, all of it, and she never says that.

That doesn't stop birthers from claiming it though, does it? No.

And it certainly doesn't stop GLPers from parroting the lie, without actually checking their facts.
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Quality of shills has really gone downhill.
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seriously bro, you're telling me.
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


I think a lot of their best shills have most likely quit in disgust and pursued more fulfilling work.

Like slicing the roast beef at Arby's.
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no i think they're on lunch break or something

prolly jerkin it to kiddy porn in the back rooms of the pentagon. because seriously none of these shilly shills are real people. nobody on this forum at this point seriously believes obammy is legit

unless they're being paid to act that way.
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This is a congressional perspective in 1866.


Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
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No, that wasn't the Congressional Perspective. It was Rep. John A. Bingham's perspective.
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Yep. In 1866 no less. No one can claim anti-obama politics were involved. The truth is the truth and it will set you free.
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This is a congressional perspective in 1866.


Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
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Thank you.
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Double Talk??????
What....????


Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

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VIDEO of the COURT-ROOM for the Shills to digest:

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