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Double Talk??????
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Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

[link to www.teapartytribune.com]
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 Quoting: Aruna from the Starts


She didn't say it. The Tea Party blogger just made it up. The video of the entire hearing is online. It's just a lie. Like all birther crap.
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Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

[link to www.teapartytribune.com]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


f that isn't "faulty logic" by Alexandra Hill..i don't know what is... this is pure BS from Hill...what a dufus.

every Secretary of State in the UNION, declares a candidate has to be "constitutionally" eligible to be on the ballot.

MINOR v HAPPERSETT, 88 US, 162; 21(Wall),162 IS THE LAW..

ONLY CHILDREN BORN OF 2 PARENTS WHO ARE BOTH US CITIZENS ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS....

every state requires candidates meet the Constitutional requirements before they can be placed on the ballot...
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clappa
 Quoting: Éireann


Once again you are a fucking birther, you fucking lied like birthers do. The case didn't DEFINE natural born citizen, but only said X qualifies as NBC. A cat is a mammal but not all mammals are cat. Fucking birther, the case didn't define anything and fucking said it wasn't making a definition. Fucking asshole, you are a liar.
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you are such a clown...i went to the law library and have a copy of the decision...MINOR v HAPPERSETT 88 US, 162, 21(Wall), 162

GUESS YOU MISSED PAGE 167 OF THE DECISION...WHERE IT CLEARLY DEFINED:

"only a natural born citizen can be president of the united states." It went further to define natural born citizen as being children born of 2 (parents) who are themselves citizens."

you obama clowns are all alike; you'd love to discount the US Consititution.....i say all you black obama lovers; need to be deported with your "brotha"...back to africa...believe me if i was POTUS; i would do it in a heartbeat! you do not belong in America...God planted you blacks on african soil....GO HOME!
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f that isn't "faulty logic" by Alexandra Hill..i don't know what is... this is pure BS from Hill...what a dufus.

every Secretary of State in the UNION, declares a candidate has to be "constitutionally" eligible to be on the ballot.

MINOR v HAPPERSETT, 88 US, 162; 21(Wall),162 IS THE LAW..

ONLY CHILDREN BORN OF 2 PARENTS WHO ARE BOTH US CITIZENS ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS....

every state requires candidates meet the Constitutional requirements before they can be placed on the ballot...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10739403

clappa
 Quoting: Éireann


Once again you are a fucking birther, you fucking lied like birthers do. The case didn't DEFINE natural born citizen, but only said X qualifies as NBC. A cat is a mammal but not all mammals are cat. Fucking birther, the case didn't define anything and fucking said it wasn't making a definition. Fucking asshole, you are a liar.
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you are such a clown...i went to the law library and have a copy of the decision...MINOR v HAPPERSETT 88 US, 162, 21(Wall), 162

GUESS YOU MISSED PAGE 167 OF THE DECISION...WHERE IT CLEARLY DEFINED:

"only a natural born citizen can be president of the united states." It went further to define natural born citizen as being children born of 2 (parents) who are themselves citizens."

you obama clowns are all alike; you'd love to discount the US Consititution.....i say all you black obama lovers; need to be deported with your "brotha"...back to africa...believe me if i was POTUS; i would do it in a heartbeat! you do not belong in America...God planted you blacks on african soil....GO HOME!
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You should go home to wherever your so-called ancestors are from. Same logic would apply to you, also.
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Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

[link to www.teapartytribune.com]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes

 Quoting: Aruna from the Starts


She didn't say it. The Tea Party blogger just made it up. The video of the entire hearing is online. It's just a lie. Like all birther crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Yeah, where in that video does she say "Obama's birth certificate is a forgery"? Please, any birthers? Care to provide a time in the video she actually said that?
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you are such a clown...i went to the law library and have a copy of the decision...MINOR v HAPPERSETT 88 US, 162, 21(Wall), 162

GUESS YOU MISSED PAGE 167 OF THE DECISION...WHERE IT CLEARLY DEFINED:

"only a natural born citizen can be president of the united states." It went further to define natural born citizen as being children born of 2 (parents) who are themselves citizens."

you obama clowns are all alike; you'd love to discount the US Consititution.....i say all you black obama lovers; need to be deported with your "brotha"...back to africa...believe me if i was POTUS; i would do it in a heartbeat! you do not belong in America...God planted you blacks on african soil....GO HOME!
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Instead of "going down to the law library" you could probably have just used Google.

But if you had, you'd know that Minor v Happersett has been overturned by the Supreme Court.

In the 1960s, the Supreme Court started to view voting as a fundamental right covered by the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.[2] In a dissenting opinion of a 1964 Supreme Court case involving reapportionment in the Alabama state legislature, Associate Justice John Marshall Harlan II included Minor in a list of "decisions of this Court which are disregarded or, more accurately, silently overruled today".[19]
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Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

[link to www.teapartytribune.com]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes

 Quoting: Aruna from the Starts


She didn't say it. The Tea Party blogger just made it up. The video of the entire hearing is online. It's just a lie. Like all birther crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Yeah, where in that video does she say "Obama's birth certificate is a forgery"? Please, any birthers? Care to provide a time in the video she actually said that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11929805

This has already been cleared up.

[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]

"UPDATE: After re-watching the 3+ hour hearing there is no admission that the birth certificate is a forgery by Obama's paid lackey. Where Dan Crosby heard that who knows. You will have to follow the link and ask him. Aside from this one sentence, "Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery", the rest of the opinion piece is spot-on ."

To me, Obama's birth certificate is a moot point. For him to be eligible for the PoTUS, both of his parents must be US Citizens. Period.
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so apparently, good ol' sheriff "lock-'em-up-joe" arpiao was absolutely correct.

the obama people know they can't win in court and have now moved to confront the issue head-on.

thank you, birthers!!!
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so apparently, good ol' sheriff "lock-'em-up-joe" arpiao was absolutely correct.

the obama people know they can't win in court and have now moved to confront the issue head-on.

thank you, birthers!!!
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The actual video doesn't show an admission. Just so ya know, doncha know.
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For all the Obama supporters - just explicitly say why he qualifies. And then also explain why his social security number (s) are all over the place and why did he seal so much or all of his records and why did he spend a shit load of loot to cover crap up IF he has nothing to hide. His father held a British passport his mother was possibly under age, which certainly makes him a British subject. Right or wrong???
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whether or not she said it, anybody with eyes and half a brain can see it is a forgery. An in-your-face, blatant forgery at that.
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Read it & weep!

[link to theulstermanreport.com]


That Sen. Feinstein & the one who died Kam Kuwata, her campaign guru.

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...Therefore, she argued,

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...if she ways the same as a duck

then...

she's made of wood

and therefore...

a Witch!!!!!
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This has already been cleared up.

[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]
**snip**

To me, Obama's birth certificate is a moot point. For him to be eligible for the PoTUS, both of his parents must be US Citizens. Period.
 Quoting: Éireann


I am noticing that they didn't bother to change their article title or headline that states the very opposite.

Shoddy hype-driven "reporting".

That being said, can we please move on to legitimate ways of getting that traitor kicked out of office?

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a little tar, some feathers, and a rail for poopbama
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For all the Obama supporters - just explicitly say why he qualifies. And then also explain why his social security number (s) are all over the place and why did he seal so much or all of his records and why did he spend a shit load of loot to cover crap up IF he has nothing to hide. His father held a British passport his mother was possibly under age, which certainly makes him a British subject. Right or wrong???
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Ok listen. I'll say this once. Repeating fucking bullshit fucking LIES does NOTHING for the birther movement. So either A) move on to TRUTHS or B) STFU
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Ok it's now official, we live in bizzaro land!
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I'm probably the first one to examine the image of the birth certificate and identify the ways in which it was a forgery. I've got work experience as an image processing scientist, and I examined the image in 2008, and passed along information about its problems. The information that I passed along got reviewed and added to, and it eventually ended up in WND. I don't think that BC image was every credible.

However, the lawyer is right. The forging of the image of the birth certificate does not imply that Obama is not a citizen.

What is odd is all the years in which Obama and no one on his staff would take ownership of the fake birth certificate image. They've been stonewalling and doing fake-outs with that BC for years, with no one ever taking ownership of the image or personally vouching for it. The closest they ever came to vouching for it was a White House spokesman, which isn't the same thing as the president taking ownership of it.

It is strange that this suspicious BC could be out all these years, publicly circulating as his, and Obama doesn't know or care whether or not it's fake.
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But none of this BC forgery stuff means that Obama doesn't qualify as POTUS.

There was an alternative story about Obama being born in Africa and being rushed back here and registered as born here. But that seems to have been debunked.

I hope people are aware that both parents don't have to be citizens for someone to qualify as POTUS.
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This has already been cleared up.

[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]
**snip**

To me, Obama's birth certificate is a moot point. For him to be eligible for the PoTUS, both of his parents must be US Citizens. Period.
 Quoting: Éireann


I am noticing that they didn't bother to change their article title or headline that states the very opposite.

Shoddy hype-driven "reporting".

That being said, can we please move on to legitimate ways of getting that traitor kicked out of office?
 Quoting: Rabid_Wolf


At this late in the game? Vote him out. That's all we have. If he's impeached - we get Biden.
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"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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ONCE AGAIN BIRTHER FUCKING LIES. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. I FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE LIE. THE LIE IS NOT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

FUCKING LIAR, YOU LIED MANY TIMES IN THIS THREAD. FUCK OFF LIAR



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Babbling Birther Nonsense. Can't wait to see the hissy fit these babies are gonna have when we re-elect Obama for a second term.
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Everybody knows its a fake.......


Nobody dare's to be deemed a racist for attacking the almighty.
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you don't have to attack the lies...or the liars

merely disengage from falling for them nor any of the rhetoric

period.

recognize the babble for that which it be

recognize it as you recognize it's source

don't allow it's erroneousness to filter into your perception of the "what is"

and never fall prey to pretending you believe in anything that isn't fully aligned with what you know to be true

the world can come and go but you don't have to sway to and fro with it and the lies it brings

in the end they will all take care of themselves because that's how this Age was set up to go down

as it should, no blur
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Read it & weep!

[link to theulstermanreport.com]


That Sen. Feinstein & the one who died Kam Kuwata, her campaign guru.
 Quoting: Angell
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Babbling Birther Nonsense. Can't wait to see the hissy fit these babies are gonna have when we re-elect Obama for a second term.
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you Sir or Madame

will see far more than you can even handle before your lease is up

guaranteed

LOL

best get a life jacket

and strap yourself in
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Read it & weep!

[link to theulstermanreport.com]


That Sen. Feinstein & the one who died Kam Kuwata, her campaign guru.
 Quoting: Angell


Thread: WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: You Don’t Ever Wanna Do The Things I’ve Done…
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So a Mexican anchor baby can be President?

FUCK
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This has already been cleared up.

[link to obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com]
**snip**

To me, Obama's birth certificate is a moot point. For him to be eligible for the PoTUS, both of his parents must be US Citizens. Period.
 Quoting: Éireann


I am noticing that they didn't bother to change their article title or headline that states the very opposite.

Shoddy hype-driven "reporting".

That being said, can we please move on to legitimate ways of getting that traitor kicked out of office?
 Quoting: Rabid_Wolf


At this late in the game? Vote him out. That's all we have. If he's impeached - we get Biden.
 Quoting: Éireann


Oof. Good point. Biden would issue a Full Pardon to Obama too.

Vote, then trials... Works for me.
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Babbling Birther Nonsense. Can't wait to see the hissy fit these babies are gonna have when we re-elect Obama for a second term.
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it's not even going to matter who has won the election in fairly short order oh foolishly witted one

t'will be much of a moot point in fact

in FULL.

you can hiss and bother about but it won't change one iota of the truth, not that you'd ever recognize it as such

the tables are turning like disco balls and new players await in the wings

best bet you are gonna fall for every bit of the fiction soon to befall the All that Is and Isn't

and don't think for one moment that you don't have it coming because once again you'd be way off base

I sense strong delusion is your upcoming lot

take note of that fact it might serve you -

at all if not well

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