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Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control

 
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Wow! Where do you get all this nonsense? You are so full of so much inside personal information about all the intimate details of the entire family's personal lives! I am sure you must have excellent sources! Just wish you would provide some credible ones for all to see. Until then, just more babbling birther bullshit.
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do you own research - its all over the internet and has been since he was a Senator ... that's when I became aware of it, and the evidence continues to grow ... OPEN YOUR MIND and turn off your TV ...

a bill recently passed both the house and the senate, to IMPEACH obama .... did your TV tell you that? no - but it is true none the less ... I don't know when the proceedings will begin, but its on the docket - check it out

and as you can plainly see by what I have posted, that I am no "birther" ... I could care less where he was born ... and there is no question about his father NOT being and American ...

I don't really care if you believe me - even though as a fellow American, I have no reason to lie to you and I've been singing the same tune since WAAAAAAAAAAAY before the term "birther" became a trigger word for the sheeple to react (automatically) defensive towards - if you are to be recognized as "politically correct"


they say that the bigger the lie is, the easier it is to get over - because no one questions a lie THAT BIG ... because it is tooo big for your mind to handle all the implications - so you just accept it .

please don't just accept the fact that Barry refuses to prove that he is an American citizen - much less "natural born" which we already know - he isn't and he has admitted - when he claimed to be a dual citizen ... by sporting an American passport (once he became Senator) with diplomatic "immunity" ...

just connect the dots folks ... one leads right to another, all you have to do is look around - the truth IS out there and it will set you free from IGNORE-ance
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I gotta call BS unless you can provide some credible sources. I don't believe they wouldn't allow a child to enroll in school because the child was a foreign resident. Think about it...we allow foreign kids to enroll in school here.

Don't you think his opponents would have dug this crap up a long long time ago if there was any proof? And yes, I've heard the rumors that the Clintons thought he applied to college as a foreign exchange student or something, but, again, no credible sources ever given.
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I hate to get involved, but on the Indonesian point I can attest its true

I lived and worked in Bali off and on for 3 years in the 90s. and Indonesian laws are incredibly strict, not lenient like the US

You cannot buy and own property if you aren't an Indonesian citizen, and it is nearly impossible to become an indonesian except through marriage or adoption

If someone was allowed to go to school in Indonesia, it's because they were a citizen. There is no other way

We in the US think everyplace is as open and easy going as we are, but in fact we're pretty rare

Now re birth certificates, etc etc, I am staying OUT of that discussion. I think it's a no win debate. I'm only commenting on my experience living in Indonesia

good luck to you
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don't apologize for sharing your knowledge - that is what the internet allows us to do ... I appreciate your perspective and perhaps others will too ... and consider that as strict as the laws are today - they may have been even stricter back in the sixties ...


I am satisfied that Barry is a citizen of Indonesia - I haven't researched their citizenship requirements, but Americans have to "report in" every so often to keep their citizenship "current" ... and I would imagine other countries have such laws ... could be he's been gone so long that he isn't considered a citizen of Indonesia, but that doesn't mean his citizenship as an American is automatically re-instated ... it just could be that he isn't a citizen of any Nation at all ... a man without a country
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Quit it, you guys ...

quit ignoring the fact that he is a citizen of INDONESIA

hello - he gave up his American citizenship !!!!
and he never reinstated it

the passport he traveled around on while in college was from INDONESIA - he got Studen aide as a FOREIGN STUDENT from INDONESIA

HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN OF HIS OWN FREE WILL

he can't be tried for "treason" because he isn't a citizen

but WE can all be tried for STUPIDITY when we continue to IGNORE the REAL ISSUE ... Berry hasn't been an American since he was adopted by his moms second husband and they moved to INDONESIA
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More birther BS...

When will you guys learn to fact check the crap you post on the internet... my guess is never...
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Quit it, you guys ...

quit ignoring the fact that he is a citizen of INDONESIA

hello - he gave up his American citizenship !!!!
and he never reinstated it

the passport he traveled around on while in college was from INDONESIA - he got Studen aide as a FOREIGN STUDENT from INDONESIA

HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN OF HIS OWN FREE WILL

he can't be tried for "treason" because he isn't a citizen

but WE can all be tried for STUPIDITY when we continue to IGNORE the REAL ISSUE ... Berry hasn't been an American since he was adopted by his moms second husband and they moved to INDONESIA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1075367


More birther BS...

When will you guys learn to fact check the crap you post on the internet... my guess is never...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


How about this just gets taken up by SCOTUS, presented by really good attorneys with all the evidence produced and considered from both sides?

There are more than enough Constitutional issues that need to be addressed. A few subpoenas for documents and it could be all wrapped up in short order.

Which is where the lawyers at that hearing failed. Hopefully the prosecuting attorney will get proper documentation before the appeal. *sigh*
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Birther morons once again posting bullshit in this thread.

Let's begin.

Even if Indonesia made such claims (it didn't, and in fact, the strict laws on citizenship speak against his automatic citizenship for adoption at the AGE he was), Indonesian laws have no effect on US law and US recognition of citizenship.

For a CHILD to lose US citizenship, they have to actively petition the embassy and PROVE they want to renounce it. And even then they can get it back at 18. Here you go, morons:

[link to travel.state.gov]

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.


[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

"A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 1481 (a) of this title. "

[link to www.obamaconspiracy.org] For the morons if you want to know more about Indonesia
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The Obama attorney actually insists that proof of identity is not a requirement to be placed on the ballot to run for President.


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Well, moron, it is the LAW for NJ. That is the point. The judge also confirmed it and pointed out that the courts don't make the law. The attorney just was following the law. Don't like it, have it changed.

Fucking moron.
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I'm really anxious to see your source for your claim that he was detained as a possible British spy while traveling as a US Senator.
Surely you know how spouting such nonsense harms your credibility.
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[link to www.examiner.com]
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Birther morons once again posting bullshit in this thread.

Let's begin.

Even if Indonesia made such claims (it didn't, and in fact, the strict laws on citizenship speak against his automatic citizenship for adoption at the AGE he was), Indonesian laws have no effect on US law and US recognition of citizenship.

For a CHILD to lose US citizenship, they have to actively petition the embassy and PROVE they want to renounce it. And even then they can get it back at 18. Here you go, morons:

[link to travel.state.gov]

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.


[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

"A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 1481 (a) of this title. "

[link to www.obamaconspiracy.org] For the morons if you want to know more about Indonesia
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"A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 1481 (a) of this title. "

So, did Obama do this?
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The Obama attorney actually insists that proof of identity is not a requirement to be placed on the ballot to run for President.


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Well, moron, it is the LAW for NJ. That is the point. The judge also confirmed it and pointed out that the courts don't make the law. The attorney just was following the law. Don't like it, have it changed.

Fucking moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436388


Well, that was what was being disputed in the case isn't it? Until the judge ruled on it - it was up for debate. It's STILL up for debate, and we now wait for the appeals process.

And I completely disagree with the defense attorney and the judge.

But...the prosecutor sucked and did not make his case properly. I'm not a lawyer but I know that stuff printed off the internet is not gonna fly. A good lawyer would have gotten original documents and affadavits.

But then, I'm not quite sure what kind of hearing this was. Anyone know? Aren't there hearings where they just present the basis of the argument and then it gets determined if it should be continued? And that's when he'd have to have all the real type paperwork?

And nice name calling there dude. Did it make you feel better?hf
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The Obama attorney actually insists that proof of identity is not a requirement to be placed on the ballot to run for President.


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Well, moron, it is the LAW for NJ. That is the point. The judge also confirmed it and pointed out that the courts don't make the law. The attorney just was following the law. Don't like it, have it changed.

Fucking moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436388


Well, that was what was being disputed in the case isn't it? Until the judge ruled on it - it was up for debate. It's STILL up for debate, and we now wait for the appeals process.

And I completely disagree with the defense attorney and the judge.

But...the prosecutor sucked and did not make his case properly. I'm not a lawyer but I know that stuff printed off the internet is not gonna fly. A good lawyer would have gotten original documents and affadavits.

But then, I'm not quite sure what kind of hearing this was. Anyone know? Aren't there hearings where they just present the basis of the argument and then it gets determined if it should be continued? And that's when he'd have to have all the real type paperwork?

And nice name calling there dude. Did it make you feel better?hf
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Here you are, once again, talking out of your ass, moron.

1) there is no "prosecutor." This is not a criminal case.
2) the attorney trying to claim all kinds of birther shit disputes the law, so what? that doesn't mean it isn't the law and so
3) the attorney who said it is the law is right and did nothing wrong.

But morons like you don't get it. And then you talk shit as if you know something. "Prosecutor"? FUCK OFF
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No matter what, Barry Obama's birth certificate is still fake. Still cut up into edited layers... Still showing areas where the information has been edited...

The white-house put out a fake birth certificate, and only the very ignorant and gullible accept the lie.

Barry Obama's birth certificate is a poor photo-shopped, fraudulent, fake, and all the shilling in the world will never ever change that.

flip
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The Obama attorney actually insists that proof of identity is not a requirement to be placed on the ballot to run for President.


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Well, moron, it is the LAW for NJ. That is the point. The judge also confirmed it and pointed out that the courts don't make the law. The attorney just was following the law. Don't like it, have it changed.

Fucking moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436388


Well, that was what was being disputed in the case isn't it? Until the judge ruled on it - it was up for debate. It's STILL up for debate, and we now wait for the appeals process.

And I completely disagree with the defense attorney and the judge.

But...the prosecutor sucked and did not make his case properly. I'm not a lawyer but I know that stuff printed off the internet is not gonna fly. A good lawyer would have gotten original documents and affadavits.

But then, I'm not quite sure what kind of hearing this was. Anyone know? Aren't there hearings where they just present the basis of the argument and then it gets determined if it should be continued? And that's when he'd have to have all the real type paperwork?

And nice name calling there dude. Did it make you feel better?hf
 Quoting: Copernica



Here you are, once again, talking out of your ass, moron.

1) there is no "prosecutor." This is not a criminal case.
2) the attorney trying to claim all kinds of birther shit disputes the law, so what? that doesn't mean it isn't the law and so
3) the attorney who said it is the law is right and did nothing wrong.

But morons like you don't get it. And then you talk shit as if you know something. "Prosecutor"? FUCK OFF
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14437218


Well then wtf are they called? If they don't have any other name - then defense and prosecution work just fine as identities.

So stop being pendantic and argue your case.

All I've said is that I think the whole thing should be laid out properly in court by competent attorneys. Let's get it to SCOTUS and let the decisions be made once and for all on all aspects of who/what a POTUS must be and the paperwork they need.

I just happen to not agree with some thing the defense (until you give me the right word) attorney said. Personal opinion. We all have them.

Not get off my case unless you have something useful to add to the discussion.
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No matter what, Barry Obama's birth certificate is still fake. Still cut up into edited layers... Still showing areas where the information has been edited...

The white-house put out a fake birth certificate, and only the very ignorant and gullible accept the lie.

Barry Obama's birth certificate is a poor photo-shopped, fraudulent, fake, and all the shilling in the world will never ever change that.

flip
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958380


lala

Denial makes it so amazingly real.
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I'm really anxious to see your source for your claim that he was detained as a possible British spy while traveling as a US Senator.
Surely you know how spouting such nonsense harms your credibility.
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[link to www.examiner.com]
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Did you see this Post By Moses Isaac Odhiambo?

The novelistic/journalistic historians can always narate distortatively and manufacture historical facts without statistical parameters and chronological histroy data base PILLAR, whilst the historicists can so often go deeper to evaluate in terms of regressional correlations of chronological parameters of OBAMA's citizenship as an American born legally in USA with very factual statistical parameter matrix data of historical chronology with best experimental research development outreach lines and curves of closet fit dynamically and exponentially-By Prof.Moses Isaac ODHIAMBO-(EU).

Hilarious!! I feel so stupid why didn't I think of that??
I would like a Translation please...
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This is what a criminal president looks like...
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If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Re: Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control
No matter what, Barry Obama's birth certificate is still fake. Still cut up into edited layers... Still showing areas where the information has been edited...

The white-house put out a fake birth certificate, and only the very ignorant and gullible accept the lie.

Barry Obama's birth certificate is a poor photo-shopped, fraudulent, fake, and all the shilling in the world will never ever change that.

flip
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lala

Denial makes it so amazingly real.
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Sure. But it only makes you look even more ignorant....
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.

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