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He has something that other presidents didn't have.

 Quoting: FatalW1shes


He has the full and complete backing of every Communist on Earth.

They've worked towards this for about 100 years. They infiltrated and ruined every institution that made America the great country it once was. The family unit, the education system, the press, etc., you name it, they wrecked it.

Ya ever notice those polls that say only 20% of Americans consider themselves liberal? That means that the vast majority of liberal/socialist/communist people here DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY'RE COMMIES! The brainwashing has been thorough, to say the least.

Joe McCarthy was right.
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Every muslim as well
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GLP is the only news site left.

You can bet if Anderson Cooper found that the document wasn't in layers he would have had 'birthers' on the ridiculist again.

Layered document.

I can't wait while the shit really hits the fan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1224302


A lot of you keep saying "layered document" "layers" but none of you know shit about graphic design.

Its a scanned image that was merged into a PDF, whenever they do this, there is all kinds of auto generated layers that come up because of the nature of PDF format.

This is done because it is required for printing etc, they need access to multiple elements on a page if and when possible.

If the forgery was simple enough for birthtard all stars to find, why would every member of the right-wing media except a fringe group of complete bats hit loons report on it?

Where is the WND?

Where is the blaze.com and Glenn Beck?

Where is Limbaugh?


They all don't touch it because they know it is a mark of fucking shame. Its totally bunk or those vampires would be all over it like white on rice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14201655


bsflag

Hong Kong, I think everyone knows what a shill you are.

I few post back I read how you are going to shill on this thread. How ridiculous.

We read your ignorant post on here all the time.

Barry Obama's birth certificate is a fraudulent fake, cut up into edited layers, with cut-outs. Anyone can see where the information has been edited.

You can't scan a document and have it come out in edited layers, with cut-outs and edited areas, unless it is made, forged, and split up in that way.

You are a fucking liar and a shill.

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He has something that other presidents didn't have.

 Quoting: FatalW1shes


He has the full and complete backing of every Communist on Earth.

They've worked towards this for about 100 years. They infiltrated and ruined every institution that made America the great country it once was. The family unit, the education system, the press, etc., you name it, they wrecked it.

Ya ever notice those polls that say only 20% of Americans consider themselves liberal? That means that the vast majority of liberal/socialist/communist people here DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY'RE COMMIES! The brainwashing has been thorough, to say the least.

Joe McCarthy was right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13922782


Every muslim as well
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


And right now that scares the hell out of me, Fatal. They just keep stirring the pot and coming up with increasingly more scary shit.
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Best post yet!! Thank you, AC, for reminding these young'uns that there have been other Presidents. I believe my list of Presidents started with Ford. I wouldn't have been old enough to really understand what was going on with Nixon. I was born in '66.
 Quoting: Éireann


thanks man, yeah I'm just fascinated by these folks whose lives appear to revolve around Barry and the incredible hatred they hold for him, life is short and to spend so much time and energy on a guy who sits in the white house for a max of 8 years is wasteful, short sighted and simplistic. I remember when GLP was about the greater conspiracy, the Illuminati, the Bilderbergers, Committee of 300 etc...instead of just the dude sitting in the white house. well I'm out, heading to the great outdoors to commune with nature...hopefully when I get back the birthers will have the evidence needed to get that evil Barry out and we can all enjoy a Biden presidency for a while.

late
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14255984


this fucking thread subject title is called "Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control"

if you came here expecting discussion on anything other than obama you're a retard, bro. yes glp is about EVERY conspiracy and that includes o'slammy bammer clammer dammer who fuckin prolly killed his bammy mamma

who is your real mamma obama? obama's momma bammy soetoro slammy clammy belongs behind bars for his FORGED ILLEGAL DOCUMENT of a birth certificate

also his STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER 042-68-4425
 Quoting: CultivatingMass

Now now, calm down Cultivate. We weren't saying that the discussion of Obama in this thread was a problem. We were commenting on the post where the guy believed that the MSM was owned by Obama and we were simply pointing out that there have been a lot of Presidents (ok... none of them with citizenship issues) who have done some pretty fucked up stuff to our country.

Also... why does everyone keep calling me "dude" and "man". Isn't it obvious I'm female? My handle is feminine. Pronounced Air-E-Ann and means "Land of Abundance". It's the Ancient Gaelic name for Ireland which is a girls name. Ireland is a she.
 Quoting: Éireann


but, so does that make him okay? what's already done is done taht's in the past.

obama is president RIGHT NOW. we can do something RIGHT NOW to fix shit. why be so passive? yeah bro, i call everyone bro, even girls. ever watch always sunny?

also i do thin MSM is owned by the obama administration so if you're saying that's not true... then i have to politely disagree. CNN FOX MSNBC or whatever they're all the same thing
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Where are the Obots that said birthers were crazy? bet we don't hear from those liars for a long time. This may be the day we have waited for.
 Quoting: TDJ


Not if the MSM doesn't pick it up, not if Congress doesn't address it, not if the courts won't hear it, not if the states don't prosecute it, not if Barry is on the 2012 ballot (and especially not if he wins a second term).
 Quoting: JoeJett


And not if there are plenty more fuckwits like Hong Kong just above my last post who doesn't think the Constitution is an important issue.
 Quoting: JoeJett


Your Constitution was assraped by Bush 2 and has never meant anything since.

Obama uses the laws put in place after 9-11 to show you what is possible, perhaps you should put some effort into repealing things like the Patriot act or NDAA if your fucking Constitution means so much to you.

Otherwise, STFU and keep crying over useless bullshit because you are too damn dumb to find anything factual.
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Mr. Hong Kong, don't you have anything better to do than stick your nose in where it doesn't belong? The only thing I see from you is whining and telling Americans to "STFU," and stop telling us our Constitution doesn't matter and
stop assuming you know how things work. It is getting old.

If this lawyer did say these things, then someone needs to start making phone calls.. It is a sad that someone can come out and blatantly rub our noses in their stink and we do nothing.



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He has something that other presidents didn't have.

 Quoting: FatalW1shes


He has the full and complete backing of every Communist on Earth.

They've worked towards this for about 100 years. They infiltrated and ruined every institution that made America the great country it once was. The family unit, the education system, the press, etc., you name it, they wrecked it.

Ya ever notice those polls that say only 20% of Americans consider themselves liberal? That means that the vast majority of liberal/socialist/communist people here DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY'RE COMMIES! The brainwashing has been thorough, to say the least.

Joe McCarthy was right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13922782

Is this that moment where econ 101 actually saves my life? The 80/20 rule where 20% of the people do 100% of the work for the other 80%?

I hate economics. I had to take it to graduate University. Otherwise... I wouldn't have.
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thanks man, yeah I'm just fascinated by these folks whose lives appear to revolve around Barry and the incredible hatred they hold for him, life is short and to spend so much time and energy on a guy who sits in the white house for a max of 8 years is wasteful, short sighted and simplistic. I remember when GLP was about the greater conspiracy, the Illuminati, the Bilderbergers, Committee of 300 etc...instead of just the dude sitting in the white house. well I'm out, heading to the great outdoors to commune with nature...hopefully when I get back the birthers will have the evidence needed to get that evil Barry out and we can all enjoy a Biden presidency for a while.

late
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14255984


this fucking thread subject title is called "Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control"

if you came here expecting discussion on anything other than obama you're a retard, bro. yes glp is about EVERY conspiracy and that includes o'slammy bammer clammer dammer who fuckin prolly killed his bammy mamma

who is your real mamma obama? obama's momma bammy soetoro slammy clammy belongs behind bars for his FORGED ILLEGAL DOCUMENT of a birth certificate

also his STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER 042-68-4425
 Quoting: CultivatingMass

Now now, calm down Cultivate. We weren't saying that the discussion of Obama in this thread was a problem. We were commenting on the post where the guy believed that the MSM was owned by Obama and we were simply pointing out that there have been a lot of Presidents (ok... none of them with citizenship issues) who have done some pretty fucked up stuff to our country.

Also... why does everyone keep calling me "dude" and "man". Isn't it obvious I'm female? My handle is feminine. Pronounced Air-E-Ann and means "Land of Abundance". It's the Ancient Gaelic name for Ireland which is a girls name. Ireland is a she.
 Quoting: Éireann


but, so does that make him okay? what's already done is done taht's in the past.

obama is president RIGHT NOW. we can do something RIGHT NOW to fix shit. why be so passive? yeah bro, i call everyone bro, even girls. ever watch always sunny?

also i do thin MSM is owned by the obama administration so if you're saying that's not true... then i have to politely disagree. CNN FOX MSNBC or whatever they're all the same thing
 Quoting: CultivatingMass

You're right. We can only deal with this President in this time which is now. And no, I don't completely disagree with you about the MSM and the Obama connection. Their lack of competent reporting on major issues concerning this President is beyond disturbing, beyond coincidence, and beyond belief.
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Yup.

There is enough evidence out there. Nobody wants to mess with the black president.

There is always this that shows his father was not born in the USA so he is not a natural born citizen.

[link to www.panamalaw.org]
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He has something that other presidents didn't have.

 Quoting: FatalW1shes


He has the full and complete backing of every Communist on Earth.

They've worked towards this for about 100 years. They infiltrated and ruined every institution that made America the great country it once was. The family unit, the education system, the press, etc., you name it, they wrecked it.

Ya ever notice those polls that say only 20% of Americans consider themselves liberal? That means that the vast majority of liberal/socialist/communist people here DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY'RE COMMIES! The brainwashing has been thorough, to say the least.

Joe McCarthy was right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13922782


Every muslim as well
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


And right now that scares the hell out of me, Fatal. They just keep stirring the pot and coming up with increasingly more scary shit.
 Quoting: Éireann



Remember that movie "The Animal" and there was a black guy in it and nobody wanted to mess with him?

[link to www.imdb.com]


It was a comedy, but it sure seems like that is what is happening now.
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so now we can all use fake documents to get what we want
since people can cross the border with stolen id's
and the pres can forge his bc
so its no longer illegal WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
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Yup.

There is enough evidence out there. Nobody wants to mess with the black president.

There is always this that shows his father was not born in the USA so he is not a natural born citizen.

[link to www.panamalaw.org]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


this blog post shows you step-by-step how to open the PDF in illustrator and open all the layers to see for yourself. it's literally 3 steps. whether you choose to read and follow through, well that's up to you.

"Layer upon layer: Opening Obama's birth certificate in Adobe Illustrator"

[link to www.batesline.com]
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Yup.

There is enough evidence out there. Nobody wants to mess with the black president.

There is always this that shows his father was not born in the USA so he is not a natural born citizen.

[link to www.panamalaw.org]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


this blog post shows you step-by-step how to open the PDF in illustrator and open all the layers to see for yourself. it's literally 3 steps. whether you choose to read and follow through, well that's up to you.

"Layer upon layer: Opening Obama's birth certificate in Adobe Illustrator"

[link to www.batesline.com]
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


Wow... lots of new links for me to read or re-read and this link you've posted here, CultivatingMasses, I'm going to send to my sister who does graphics for her husband's printing company. I have Photoshop, but not Illustrator.

My sister's husband is the "president" or head organizer for their community's Tea Party group. He'll like this :)
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You don't get to admit to defrauding the entire American public for years and then insist that your admitted fraud of a client is still somehow credible.
 Quoting: Resister


Precisely.

She has admitted that Obama is a total fraud, felon, and forger ... whom NOBODY would want as US President.

She's either the dumbest attorney on the planet, or desperate beyond comprehension.

BTW, great thread: 5 STARS !!!

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You don't get to admit to defrauding the entire American public for years and then insist that your admitted fraud of a client is still somehow credible.
 Quoting: Resister


Precisely.

She has admitted that Obama is a total fraud, felon, and forger ... whom NOBODY would want as US President.

She's either the dumbest attorney on the planet, or desperate beyond comprehension.

BTW, great thread: 5 STARS !!!

 Quoting: Chris Jusset

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The sooner we begin the impeachment proceedings, the better.

Let's get this behind us as a nation, and move on.

We made a grave, grave mistake by trusting Obama ... but now it's time to begin the impeachment process so that we can JUST MOVE ON.

Even a country as dysfunctional as the US deserves better than Obama.
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Yup.

There is enough evidence out there. Nobody wants to mess with the black president.

There is always this that shows his father was not born in the USA so he is not a natural born citizen.

[link to www.panamalaw.org]
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


this blog post shows you step-by-step how to open the PDF in illustrator and open all the layers to see for yourself. it's literally 3 steps. whether you choose to read and follow through, well that's up to you.

"Layer upon layer: Opening Obama's birth certificate in Adobe Illustrator"

[link to www.batesline.com]
 Quoting: CultivatingMass


Wow... lots of new links for me to read or re-read and this link you've posted here, CultivatingMasses, I'm going to send to my sister who does graphics for her husband's printing company. I have Photoshop, but not Illustrator.

My sister's husband is the "president" or head organizer for their community's Tea Party group. He'll like this :)
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it's all so easy! literally anybody who's semi-computer literate can figure this out. I'll outline it here for anybody willing to try it themselves:

1. download adobe illustrator (CS3 is best) check torrentz.eu for a link

2. download the birth certificate from the white house website. go to the link and do file -> save as to your desktop
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

3. Open the doc in Illustrator, CTRL+A(or CMD+A for Mac users) to select everything.

4. In the top menu select Window -> Layers to display the layers panel. You will see one layer with many smaller object groups inside. These are the different clipping masks which were put together from diff documents

5. Now with the doc still selected go back to the top bar and select Object -> Clipping Mask -> Release

6. done! in the layers panel we opened click on the small arrow to the left side and you can show/hide each of the individual layers by clicking the "eye" icon.
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i took some screenshots just for you guys who cannot get adobe illustrator...

the first pic is the regular document displaying each of the internal grouped layers. then the 2nd pic is me hiding one of the layers which contains the letters 'Non' to makeup the word None.

[link to f.cl.ly]
[link to f.cl.ly]
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You don't get to admit to defrauding the entire American public for years and then insist that your admitted fraud of a client is still somehow credible.
 Quoting: Resister


Precisely.

She has admitted that Obama is a total fraud, felon, and forger ... whom NOBODY would want as US President.

She's either the dumbest attorney on the planet, or desperate beyond comprehension.

BTW, great thread: 5 STARS !!!

 Quoting: Chris Jusset

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462


The sooner we begin the impeachment proceedings, the better.

Let's get this behind us as a nation, and move on.

We made a grave, grave mistake by trusting Obama ... but now it's time to begin the impeachment process so that we can JUST MOVE ON.

Even a country as dysfunctional as the US deserves better than Obama.
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Sorry but you can't impeach someone that is not legally the president. I never trusted him from the start. The USA definitely deserves better than this con man.
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Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

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I say Obama becomes ineligible and Hilary runs! : )
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Shockingly, parting from widespread public ignorance, Hill actually acknowledged two of the three necessary components of determining natural born citizenship as being place of birth and citizenship status of both parents. However, she argued that, “No law in New Jersey obligated him (Obama) to produce any such evidence in order to get on the primary ballot.” [link to www.teapartytribune.com]
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On the PRIMARY BALLOT?

There is no Dem primary....

*knock knock* is anybody home?

This was I thought for the Presidential race ballot in November.


Can someone poke these people with a stick please?
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fairly certain she is referring to the primary he won to get on the ballot the first time not the up and coming race
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Is it too much trouble for Congress to create a concrete definition of "natural born citizen?"

If they do we may find Obama and Romney BOTH ineligable. Then who do we get? Green Party's Rosanne Barr? ..shudder
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geee.... wonder what is happening???...sercet sevice bugging out and now this....things are getting a little hairy now ain't....
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Is it too much trouble for Congress to create a concrete definition of "natural born citizen?"

If they do we may find Obama and Romney BOTH ineligable. Then who do we get? Green Party's Rosanne Barr? ..shudder
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ron paul...???
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The really sad thing is, he supposedly taught Constitutional law. I say, let’s make it required reading in the FEMA camps. lol
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So now he is saying that since it is a forgery, that his Kenyan born father information is incorrect. So therefore we cannot assume Obama is not natural born now. Since this information was used to prove he was not natural born.

So now, being that he knew this was a forgery that was foisted on the public, we charge him with fraud.

So then he will say, he did not know. Someone else posted it. Yeah right.He didn't know. Yeah. That's the ticket.

What kind of idiot does he think we are?

He knows exactly what was done and paid to hide it.He is just getting hung on his own petard.

Keep wiggling Obama. The rest of the threads will unravel.

Personally.. I think you are a Bush/ Sherff.
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This fucking thread is pinned -- again -- even when it has been PROVEN that the thread is NOT TRUE?

FUCKING BIRTHERS, get the FUCK OFFLINE. Your shit smells.
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So now he is saying that since it is a forgery, that his Kenyan born father information is incorrect. So therefore we cannot assume Obama is not natural born now. Since this information was used to prove he was not natural born.

So now, being that he knew this was a forgery that was foisted on the public, we charge him with fraud.

So then he will say, he did not know. Someone else posted it. Yeah right.He didn't know. Yeah. That's the ticket.

What kind of idiot does he think we are?

He knows exactly what was done and paid to hide it.He is just getting hung on his own petard.

Keep wiggling Obama. The rest of the threads will unravel.

Personally.. I think you are a Bush/ Sherff.
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He isn't saying it -- fucking moron. This thread is a LIE. Fucking proven to be a LIE. So, go throw your head in a bowl of shit. You might get some brains.
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To say slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War is to lie.
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I didn't say it had "nothing to do with the civil war". I said the civil war was not fought over slavery.
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It most certainly was fought over slavery, even if it is not the only thing which caused the fight. It nonetheless was the main factor for the unconstitutional schism, and of course, we all know birthers just love the original constitution which applauded slavery. Yes, that's what they are upset about: they think Obama should be their slave, not their leader.
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It was not fought over slavery itself.

It was all 98% about taxes. The emancipation gave them privileges, not rights.
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This is not altogether true , the War was fought over different points from each side. The succession of the confederacy is what ultimately started it . What started that succession ? What event happened that was directly followed by the succession ? well 11 states I believe ( If I recall my history) succeeded right after Lincoln was elected primarily for being an anti-slavery pres. The rest followed suit directly followed the emancipation proclamation. Obviously there are more issues such a nationalism versus states rights , and industry and taxes. But do not forget over 1/3 of Lee's standing army was directly tied to slave ownership, This is a fact that is absurd to overlook .

I am not saying the issues are not complected, but really you kind of simplified them with your "98 percent tax"statement.
So many examples exist of the issues of succession being further complicated by historical revisionists, who have tried to improve the image of the South by lessening the role of slavery as you are doing now , I could make a list of historical revisionism a mile long .

There are many historians directly disagree with you famous historian historian Chandra Manning to name one . But I could find more that disagree with you than agree , most , if not ALL that would agree would be southern historical revisionists
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Re: Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control
Put Obama, the DNC, Congress, and everybody else that was in on this fraud or didn't pursue it, in jail for life.
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Re: Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control
So now he is saying that since it is a forgery, that his Kenyan born father information is incorrect. So therefore we cannot assume Obama is not natural born now. Since this information was used to prove he was not natural born.

So now, being that he knew this was a forgery that was foisted on the public, we charge him with fraud.

So then he will say, he did not know. Someone else posted it. Yeah right.He didn't know. Yeah. That's the ticket.

What kind of idiot does he think we are?

He knows exactly what was done and paid to hide it.He is just getting hung on his own petard.

Keep wiggling Obama. The rest of the threads will unravel.

Personally.. I think you are a Bush/ Sherff.
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He isn't saying it -- fucking moron. This thread is a LIE. Fucking proven to be a LIE. So, go throw your head in a bowl of shit. You might get some brains.
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now..now... don't git ur undies in a wad...the blessed one just got caught in a lie....let's see what unfold...this has far reaching immplications beyound what we are seeing now....





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