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lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the vid is fake,staged! Probly some psyop type thingy.Maybe gathering up responces as fuel for that fifty gazzilion dollar spy shop in Utah. Quoting: lionheart 4677495 Look at the vid that way,,nothing about this vid makes sense. Nothing. Oh, it's real! Here's the story: [link to abcnews.go.com] It turns out that the scooter was one of his friends that just came over. He had a pistol under the seat. The old guy had just got the pistol out and put it in his rear pocket just before the black kid came by. They were loading wood into the back of his pickup in the alleyway behind this woodshop. They have already IDed the kid. He's 17 yrs. old and lives in the neighborhood. It turns out that the old man "couldn't bring himself to shoot a teenager" - even though the kid shot at him. The old man didn't get shot. The bullet ricocheted off a rock and he felt like he got hit. Also, he has shooting warning shots at the end, so he wouldn't come back, not shooting at the perp. Well, If it's on ABC or any MSM news media, Then it's real!!! They do this for a living. |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He had a 2x4 in his hand when the kid got on the moped. He should have caved his head in, game over! Quoting: Bocephus Good one! The first thing he does is put that board into the truckbed,,Now! If he's all that badass, why not take that board and knock perp off bike? Good catch! That would have got him shot in the chest Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He had a 2x4 in his hand when the kid got on the moped. He should have caved his head in, game over! Quoting: Bocephus Good one! The first thing he does is put that board into the truckbed,,Now! If he's all that badass, why not take that board and knock perp off bike? Good catch! That would have got him shot in the chest Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? No, not really. Hard to tell what he was thinking. |
Nobody User ID: 1305840 United States 04/14/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This little shit is going to cry on the day of revealing There will be no one there to say Black on white or white on black crap. He is trash and like trash at my home we burn it to cinders...I love the fact that Absolute is going to allow the RED and BLACK to gather up trash and burn it into Nothing These talking monkeys are good for Nothing but to prey on others for their own gain. He is twice dead and plucked up by his rotten roots. You people who steal,murder,molest are in for a shock of your life. .there shall be crying as one would cry for their only child who has been killed So you talking monkey do your weeping now and prepare for your 2th Death. If this world is to be a place where children can ride their bikes without fear then all people like this Black kid have to be removed. The new kingdom governors will judge this kid for evils against humanity He truly is a Son of perdition like most of them who do evil I AM SICK OF THIS SHIT. OH you guys do not have a clue what is getting ready to happen. I am Nobody 7th Son of absolute |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9090455 United States 04/14/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: lionheart 4677495 Good one! The first thing he does is put that board into the truckbed,,Now! If he's all that badass, why not take that board and knock perp off bike? Good catch! That would have got him shot in the chest Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? No, not really. Hard to tell what he was thinking. Okay Mike, I'll give you that. But it sure as heck was'nt a sucking chest wound..Who behaves that way in the real world? Whould you have kept advancing and tryng to disarm the young black armed thief? The one who is constantly pointing his gun at you. More important, if you were armed yourself, would you find cover and return the threat? The whole looks like some amature training film. |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! ABC news says, He was only firing warning shots,,ya know, so the guy won't come back...lol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! I would have unloaded over his head. Let him know how close to geting shot HE became. And since we can't see or hear what is happening off camera, we can't be sure he didn't stop, turn around and fire himself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? No, not really. Hard to tell what he was thinking. Okay Mike, I'll give you that. But it sure as heck was'nt a sucking chest wound..Who behaves that way in the real world? Whould you have kept advancing and tryng to disarm the young black armed thief? The one who is constantly pointing his gun at you. More important, if you were armed yourself, would you find cover and return the threat? The whole looks like some amature training film. He was alot closer to the gun than I can see. A 22 barrel isn't much bigger than a pellet gun. Maybe he didn't think it was real. Maybe he didn't think he would shot,or maybe, he had just fucking had enough. Hard to say. My first reaction would be to get out of the way of that barrel. Then maybe worry about wether I had a shot or not. Brave, drunk or stupid? |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! I would have unloaded over his head. Let him know how close to geting shot HE became. And since we can't see or hear what is happening off camera, we can't be sure he didn't stop, turn around and fire himself. Yeah, could be interpreted either way..One thing to notice is the way white dude fires, very puposeful. Both hands, takes his stance. calm, fires with intent, not fear or hate..like target practice.. Don't know.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? No, not really. Hard to tell what he was thinking. Okay Mike, I'll give you that. But it sure as heck was'nt a sucking chest wound..Who behaves that way in the real world? Whould you have kept advancing and tryng to disarm the young black armed thief? The one who is constantly pointing his gun at you. More important, if you were armed yourself, would you find cover and return the threat? The whole looks like some amature training film. If you are implying this is part of the anti gun agenda, well it just does't fit that. Showing bad guys with guns only renforces the fact "good" guys need to keep thiers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! I would have unloaded over his head. Let him know how close to geting shot HE became. And since we can't see or hear what is happening off camera, we can't be sure he didn't stop, turn around and fire himself. Yeah, could be interpreted either way..One thing to notice is the way white dude fires, very puposeful. Both hands, takes his stance. calm, fires with intent, not fear or hate..like target practice.. Don't know.. Im a much better shot than I was at 20? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: lionheart 4677495 Really! He was a millisecond from a chest shot almost the whole time. Did he look concered to you? No, not really. Hard to tell what he was thinking. Okay Mike, I'll give you that. But it sure as heck was'nt a sucking chest wound..Who behaves that way in the real world? Whould you have kept advancing and tryng to disarm the young black armed thief? The one who is constantly pointing his gun at you. More important, if you were armed yourself, would you find cover and return the threat? The whole looks like some amature training film. If you are implying this is part of the anti gun agenda, well it just does't fit that. Showing bad guys with guns only renforces the fact "good" guys need to keep thiers. Mike, my original post on this should tell you something. If I was trying elict posts and thoughts from people on a subject..I might show off a vid like this ,,,and wait..Maybe not on a national level, but in this case a local one. GOD knows they have plenty on a national scale.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9090455 United States 04/14/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! ABC news says, He was only firing warning shots,,ya know, so the guy won't come back...lol. Warning shots my ass. He missed and just doesn't want to admit it. [link to www.fox28.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay Mike, I'll give you that. But it sure as heck was'nt a sucking chest wound..Who behaves that way in the real world? Whould you have kept advancing and tryng to disarm the young black armed thief? The one who is constantly pointing his gun at you. More important, if you were armed yourself, would you find cover and return the threat? The whole looks like some amature training film. If you are implying this is part of the anti gun agenda, well it just does't fit that. Showing bad guys with guns only renforces the fact "good" guys need to keep thiers. Mike, my original post on this should tell you something. If I was trying elict posts and thoughts from people on a subject..I might show off a vid like this ,,,and wait..Maybe not on a national level, but in this case a local one. GOD knows they have plenty on a national scale.. Are you implying this is a data mining thread from the get go? |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9090455 now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! I would have unloaded over his head. Let him know how close to geting shot HE became. And since we can't see or hear what is happening off camera, we can't be sure he didn't stop, turn around and fire himself. Yeah, could be interpreted either way..One thing to notice is the way white dude fires, very puposeful. Both hands, takes his stance. calm, fires with intent, not fear or hate..like target practice.. Don't know.. LOL, us old guys just have learned that the first shot is the best shot, and be on target!!! Im a much better shot than I was at 20? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2206287 United States 04/14/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Whitemike761 I would have unloaded over his head. Let him know how close to geting shot HE became. And since we can't see or hear what is happening off camera, we can't be sure he didn't stop, turn around and fire himself. Yeah, could be interpreted either way..One thing to notice is the way white dude fires, very puposeful. Both hands, takes his stance. calm, fires with intent, not fear or hate..like target practice.. Don't know.. LOL, us old guys just have learned that the first shot is the best shot, and be on target!!! Im a much better shot than I was at 20? And we have seen enough to not be easily flustered |
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lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mike, not the thread!! The whole story from the news report. In that local they have plenty of responce boards and facebook, and twitter etc,etc, IF, someone was feeling the pulse of a certain area, and wanted to mine the responces of the locals,,well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405546 United States 04/14/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand where the white guy pulls the gun from?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14377927 one frame his hand is empty, next he has a gun in it? eh? it was in his back pocket the whole time since when do you keep a gun in you back trouser pocket? you wouldn't be able to sit down.... he also pulled the gun with what looked like his left hand, yet fires with his right hand...surely you would put a gun in the nearest pocket to your firing hand? please correct me if I am wrong about his left hand first pulling the gun..... It looked to me like he pulled with his left hand and brought it together with his right to fire it. He obviously thought long enough about drawing his weapon. He did what he had to do, draw it from behind and get the drop on him. It really looked like he opened fire at him. |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since when do you keep a gun in you back trouser pocket? you wouldn't be able to sit down.... he also pulled the gun with what looked like his left hand, yet fires with his right hand...surely you would put a gun in the nearest pocket to your firing hand? please correct me if I am wrong about his left hand first pulling the gun..... It looked to me like he pulled with his left hand and brought it together with his right to fire it. He obviously thought long enough about drawing his weapon. He did what he had to do, draw it from behind and get the drop on him. White guy had the gun all along,,Could have put three into the perp when he was looking for the keys..It's all too strange.. It really looked like he opened fire at him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12542142 United States 04/14/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! i hope thats sarcasm i detect and not pure stupidity. Cause if its stupidity let me tell you, you're a fucking idiot and one possible reason that should jump out. The perp is out of the picture, how the fuck do you know what the perp is doing. So is he running away? In what direction? He could have taken cover and started firing shots. He could be walking back with some hommies, or several other various things. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt here, because it should be illegal to find this level of stupidity on one thread. People talk...why did he do this...why did he do that...that doesnt look right....shut the fuck up. Do you really think they (criminals) do things like you would do it? Even if you're criminal yourself, doesnt mean they do things the same way. It should be obvious people do unusual things. Maybe some would call it unusual to implant a bullet in his brain the second he pulled a gun. It wouldnt matter if he was thinking it over, cause my mind would have been made up. Black, white, purple doesnt matter. Hes holding steel, the only one allowed to do that at my place is me, you have to win the right to do it at my place. |
lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14377927 since when do you keep a gun in you back trouser pocket? you wouldn't be able to sit down.... he also pulled the gun with what looked like his left hand, yet fires with his right hand...surely you would put a gun in the nearest pocket to your firing hand? please correct me if I am wrong about his left hand first pulling the gun..... It looked to me like he pulled with his left hand and brought it together with his right to fire it. He obviously thought long enough about drawing his weapon. He did what he had to do, draw it from behind and get the drop on him. White guy had the gun all along,,Could have put three into the perp when he was looking for the keys..It's all too strange.. It really looked like he opened fire at him. Opps, sorry!! |
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lionheart User ID: 4677495 United States 04/14/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now WAIT a minute here! something is VERY wrong with this scenario! AFTER the black kid leaves the scene and is no longer a threat, the white guy starts shooting him in the back??? That's NOT self defense, that's ATTEMPTED FIRST DEGREE MURDER! Timothy Gramza should be arrested, charged with attempted murder, and in jail right now! i hope thats sarcasm i detect and not pure stupidity. Cause if its stupidity let me tell you, you're a fucking idiot and one possible reason that should jump out. The perp is out of the picture, how the fuck do you know what the perp is doing. So is he running away? In what direction? He could have taken cover and started firing shots. He could be walking back with some hommies, or several other various things. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt here, because it should be illegal to find this level of stupidity on one thread. People talk...why did he do this...why did he do that...that doesnt look right....shut the fuck up. Do you really think they (criminals) do things like you would do it? Even if you're criminal yourself, doesnt mean they do things the same way. It should be obvious people do unusual things. Maybe some would call it unusual to implant a bullet in his brain the second he pulled a gun. It wouldnt matter if he was thinking it over, cause my mind would have been made up. Black, white, purple doesnt matter. Hes holding steel, the only one allowed to do that at my place is me, you have to win the right to do it at my place. So, Whats your point? really. |