God and Jesus are not 1 in the same

You christians can't handle the TRUTH!!

You will die one day. Then you will know the truth.
Enjoy this life, the next ones gonna be hell.

Jesus and the Father are one.
Not one and the same.
The Comforter or Holy Spirit is God,
but He is not the Father,
nor is He the Son.

What is God?

God is the Father,
the Son,
and the Holy Spirit.

That IS what GOD is.

Well, aren't you a ray of hellfire.

As a kid I had to go to Sunday school and one of the questions for the test to pass to the next level or whatever was:

Is Jesus and God the same person?
I forget what I said but remember getting it wrong and having to do that "grade" or whatever over again.

The next year they asked the same question and I made sure to answer the opposite of what I did the year before.

I got it wrong again and failed again, still never figured out what the answer is. I dont think they knew apparently.

Exactly , 2 different FAIRY TALES . How can you answer correctly to a made up bullshit story ??

I'm living in hell now with all you stupid religious people . Christians , muslims, hindus , buddahists ETC ,ETC . Didn't the catholic church invent hell ?

God created hell.

Hating something and then creating a thread to talk about it? Do you go to a sewer to bitch at the turds?

This subject has eternal ramifications. You should bone up and not be ignorant.

To begin a thread like this is a classic example insecurity. Reaching out for for agreement from other lost and empty individuals in an attempt to attack God's authority over you.
There is no proof at all to support the theory of evolution, aside from the supports of it and those that are trying to control and form the world as they want it.
Science proves a young earth, about 6,000 years old and the more that the Bible is tried to be disproved the more it is shown to be flawlessly correct. And why wouldn't it be? The Bible is the Word of the Creator of all we can see.
I feel sorry for you and those that have been duped as you have been. Most people that share your views are those that do not want to accept that there is a Creator because they do not like to be under the rule of someone. Most large denominations have been corrupted by Satan and people use these examples to try to discredit God. Which is your right if you choose so. But I would like to offer you a little warning. You will pay for your attempts to sway others in this life and the one to come.
I pray that God Almighty will open your eyes while the breath of life is still in you. After you have breathed your last breath it is too late. No one can pray you in and your decisions and choices while you were living here have sealed your eternal fate.
The evidence of God exists in all of creation and to deny this tells a great deal of the problems that you have. Your not being able to understand the Bible is that you are trying to see it through your own perverted views instead of asking God to guide you.

Good luck in life. I don't say that much because there is no such thing as luck. Everything happens for a reason.

are you blind?can you see the dead fish,dead birds,storms,wars,economic trouble,radiation,civil unrest etc etc etc .Can you see it or not?All that is in Bible and we are almost in the middle of the 7 years spoken of by Daniel.THAT I can guarantee.

Father gave much of Himself to a Human child that was part of Him. To help guide fellow human brothers/sisters to a path in his Honor to come back & not be lost or condemned upon other Gods
of inhuman nature.

Last Edited by SpiritMasonChazz on 04/15/2012 09:50 AM

thought the bible also said nobody knows when so your garauntee directly contradicts tge bible, nothing against it

Here is a thought to ponder. Jesus and God, yes, are One. See, I'll give it to you in layman's terms. Jesus was a man, just like you and me are. But, He just wasn't any ordinary man, though He was (as He was not born into royalty where He was Prince and had lavish material things).

God came down to Earth to live in human form. He put down His deity, and came to be born into flesh so that He could show the world how to live, and to live among us. In the flesh body, just like you and I have.

He endured one of the hardest lives for our sakes. He wanted to show us how to be in all kinds of situations, and to prove to humans that evil does NOT have to abound in us. He was a sinless man because He was God Himself, incarnate into a human body.

Now, when Jesus died, He died as we all do. But, there was one difference, He could rise again in His new body, and He could be seen by others at His will. I like to think of this in terms of the Holy Spirit, being a "ghostly spirit", just like we, ourselves have a spirit.

So, you see, the "Trinity", is also something in us, if you truly think about it. We are human, we can have God in us, living in our hearts, just as the Man Jesus did (for He walked as God on Earth). And then the spirit within Jesus, though Most High and hly, is the same type of spirit we possess.

See, God had to come down to live in human flesh, as Jesus to be an example for us to follow. It was also necessary for Him to come dwell on the Earth as a human sacrifice of sorts to give us redemption from our sins.

Back in the OT days, in order for people to be redeemed of their sins, for themsevles and their families, they had to sacrifice certain animals at certain times of the year. This was a protocol for all living humans during this period of time.

What God did when He became Jesus, was to offer Himself as a living sacrifice once and for all, and after this, no longer did people need to sacrifice animals any longer. Instead, to this day since, one can go before the throne of God in your own heart, and ask for forgiveness of your sins on the name of Jesus.

God is Jesus in human form, and the Holy Spirit is Jesus's spirit after death. You know the amazing thing? We are just like Jesus, except that we've lost the ability to understand that sin is what keeps us bound, and we can rid ourselves of all sin. If we repent by turning away from the sins that befall us, we can change. Maybe you might not think it can happen, but it is possible, if you believe on the Lord.

I am a true testimony in the saving grace of God's mighty changing powers. I will tell you, I had a severe anger problem for many of my years. Anything could make me fly off the handle. It got bad. I started to black out with this anger, like another took me over, and I realized one day, in one of my fits of rage, that I had no control over my own body.

I sought God's healing that day to rid me of that anger. It got to the point that it actually caused me to lose the roof over my head, putting myself out on the street, homeless. It had to go.

I will say, God's saving power changed me. I am no longer the angry person who has great outbursts of anger that only are quenched after an hour. God took that anger away, and now I live a life with a peaceful mind, and never have those bouts of anger rule me. We are God's children, we are to be like Jesus. So, yes, Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are ONE, just like you and I can do the same. Jesus did say, when He left that in the last days, those who believe can do mightier things than He did. Imagine that.

Who says that it is going to be hellfire? You create your world by your choice. So of course, if you're living a hellfire life right now, it will only be worse in the next life. If you are seeking a life filled with love, joy, happiness and peace for the next life, you're going to have that.

This life has been no bed of roses, that's for sure, and I certainly am hop9ing for a much better one than this one.

I was married to a beautiful woman , then she found God and became the she devil . Religion is good .

I have explained it all how many times now on glp? The "Jesus" incarnation was by two beings. Michael of Nebadon, who IS the Father God/Creator Son of our SECTOR of the creation called Nebadon was one. The other was Esu IMMANUEL, an ascending son from Paradise. Both are returned, but in separate forms this time. They have been back since 1954 and all the other avatars of earth are returned too.

That will be the other way around - enjoy this life, that's all there is.

Bet u have stuffed toys on your parcel shelf in the back of your car.

Show me where it says that?It doesnt but you seem to think you know so show me where.

Right on...

Hey 1* bandit , there is no BS here!

The Holy Spirit is the Garauntee... He never leaves us or forsakes us... It is us who have to choose to believe and to remain in him...

Epesians 1:13-14
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

Having believed in the message... Those who truly BELIEVE are sealed with his Holy Spirit... The Bible does not contradict... Therefore the Lord does not contradict...

He tells us to keep watch and that we will know that the time is near, even at the door...

Matthew 24:42
Therefore keep watch , because you do not know what day or hour he comes.

Matthew 24:44
So you also must be ready because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

He tells us to remain watchful to know and understand the times are near and he wants us to be prepared. To be prepared in him... To prepare others in him... by delivering his message of truth... He does not contradict his Word... We, who remain in him will know when the time is nearing. We will not know the day or hour of his returning but we will see it is very close...

I always bone up . Ramifications , what I only get 20 virgins not 72 ?

I can go a bit further.
Hosea says 2 days and He will be revived.The word is HE not US.
Cyrenius was governor and Herod King.
It can ONLY be Herod Archelaus as that is the only King that was king when Cyrenius was governor and using our calendar that can only be 6 AD.
History will prove me right.
Now He was 30.30+6 +2000 =2036.Take off 27 years so that the Biblical calendar and gregorian calendar are together.2009.So the last week of Daniel started in 2009.
In fact very late 2009.2013 is the middle of the week when the abomination of desolation will be set up.
All the signs concur with this.
We are told to look for the signs and seasons.
Remember though that according to Daniel God changes times and seasons and that also He will cut short these times otherwise no flesh would be saved.So the middle of the week is 2013.In particular it is 6th June 2013 =6666/6/2013(6).
Anytime after that may be the end.Forget counting 1290 days after that date as God will shorten the days.But that IS middle of the week.Keep faith and hold fast to your crown.

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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

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great article, worth the read.

god is full of shit 10000%

"Then Jesus said unto them, I am the way, the truth and the light, no man comes to the Father but by me." I think it is you who can't handle the truth.

we cannot see the father unless through the son. if we do not see the son, then we will see nothing.

I will explain the difference.
the father was before the world,
he concieved the world.
he concieved of everything that ever was and ever will be.
out of his conception,
he founded the world.
for the world was his only mirror image.
he found people to be like him.
he was attacted to us and by us.
out of this courting we discover him
however conception of thought, is oblivious to the world in which god is.
for if the father was to leave his house, for ours.
both would be lost to oblivion.
the fathers house is not in the oblivion,
it is stable and forever.
his only option was to duplicate himself
and send his duplicate into the oblivion
thus having a son exactly like him
in the oblivion is all of conception.
as one waits outside of the oblivion, another exact waits inside.

can you not see that everything that could be, was already?
it is only the son and father that has ever made anything new.