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The End is Nigh

 
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Shoot sorry I just saw that link above
Thanks for all the help :)
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You're not free until you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.PERIOD.
 Quoting: John3:16Me

Even if that is true there is no way you could possibly know that. I suppose the tribal people of the Amazon who have never even heard of the bible get to burn in hell by default?

You make no sense.
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True freedom is doing God's will for your life. He knows you better than yourself and so knows what's best for you. But he's also given you free will, so you're free to reject his will for you and embrace any number of shiny facsimiles that will never satisfy you. The right choice is aligning your will with God's. I pray you do that.
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This is a strange place.

The purported search for truth...
and when the search fails,

proclaimed "happiness" and "freedom."

Finding "Happiness" out of Delusion is nothing fancier and evolved than simple Denial (or worse).

Finding "Happiness" in Lies is a weak-willed way to live.
And is incredibly selfish, as it serves no one but the Denier.
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Pause.

"Revelations 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

If Im considered a FIG TREE by CELTIC Zodiac, how COULD this relate to me? I wonder what my untimely figs are? Maybe that means to cast off that of which didn't come to fruition? And the second part might mean Im going to be frightened by strong wind? I don't like tornadoes, but I don't mind being shaken long as I make it.

Anyone?
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Great job with your report, being all stoned and shit. I rest my case. NZ has the best bud folks..

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Great job with your report, being all stoned and shit. I rest my case. NZ has the best bud folks..

goodevil
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I was paying attention untill you started with the religious nut-baggery why the fuck is this stickied...
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Really.. Freedom is knowing all the bad stuff, is just BS!
It's just a ride, we can get off any time!
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Hello...Lamplite....Thank you for your post ...I am very familiar with lamplite....I worked with Rory and Carole Butler,....You may have hear of the song "Hold on".In which I co-wrote.....They work with suicidal teens and have a gr8 outreach....however,,,that was 6 years ago...and since then.. I come to realize even religion is a
LIE LIE LIE....who are we to say that our religion is correct and everyone else is going to hell????

How can we say that we have the truth and yet not really researched Who exactly wrote the bible and who were the authors???

I truly believe that Religion is a FRAUD only to keep you closed minded as to what is truly going on in this world and to make you believe that the internet, t.v etc is all of Satan and to keep you in the dark...even researching the bible outside the bible for actual historical facts is of satans deception...

So please research outside your bible and don't be so ignorant to other regions and customs around the world.

P.S I take it also you are a Zionist pro Israel christian...
If so you are playing right into the game...your just a chess piece to their sick games to rule the masses and keep you in the dark.
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Hello...Lamplite....Thank you for your post ...I am very familiar with lamplite....
 Quoting: Havf8 1279026


I don't know you from a bar of soap and it is obvious you don't know me either.

I am not a Zionist pro Israel christian... or any such thing.

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Hello...Lamplite....Thank you for your post ...I am very familiar with lamplite....I worked with Rory and Carole Butler,....You may have hear of the song "Hold on".In which I co-wrote.....They work with suicidal teens and have a gr8 outreach....however,,,that was 6 years ago...and since then.. I come to realize even religion is a
LIE LIE LIE....who are we to say that our religion is correct and everyone else is going to hell????

How can we say that we have the truth and yet not really researched Who exactly wrote the bible and who were the authors???

I truly believe that Religion is a FRAUD only to keep you closed minded as to what is truly going on in this world and to make you believe that the internet, t.v etc is all of Satan and to keep you in the dark...even researching the bible outside the bible for actual historical facts is of satans deception...

So please research outside your bible and don't be so ignorant to other regions and customs around the world.

P.S I take it also you are a Zionist pro Israel christian...
If so you are playing right into the game...your just a chess piece to their sick games to rule the masses and keep you in the dark.
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Dont worry Lamplite. Hes just pissed cuz I said you all have the best bud now. LOL Canadas second on the list folks.

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The thing that mankind needs to be aware of is that planetary changes-also known as natural disasters, are directly tied to humanities collective consciousness. We sow what we reap, on a planetary scale. The religious powers that be have convinced most Christian people of an armageddon situation, based upon what different parts of the deliberately revised/doctored bible says. It could be a self-fulfilling prophecy if we collectively allow it.


This is a teaching from the "Ask The Real Jesus" website. It is only part of the entire article, which I will link at the bottom. It explains quite well how we ultimately control the planetary changes on earth.

The greater awareness that needs to emerge is that Western society has been on the wrong track for centuries, even millennia, led astray by both orthodox Christianity and materialistic science—both of which have been used as fronts by the power elite. The most efficient way for the elite to manipulate a debate is to set up two opposite polarities and make people believe they have to choose either one, yet both polarities serve to maintain a situation where a small elite can dominate the population. This obscures that there is an alternative to both approaches, namely to reach for a higher understanding of the issue.

The Ascended Host are ready and willing to work with the most highly aware people to bring forth a higher environmental awareness. In fact, we have already started bringing this out through various individuals but it has not gained widespread acceptance because the mainstream media ignores it. The basic concept that needs to be understood is that this planet was created for a specific purpose, namely the spiritual evolution of humankind.

Thus, everything on Earth is set up to give humankind the best possible opportunity to learn the basic lesson of life, namely that human beings have the power of mind to create their own physical circumstances. Each person has – over many lifetimes – created his or her personal circumstances and humankind have – over many millennia – collectively created many of the limitations you see on Earth today.

Yet God’s laws are set up so that if people raise their consciousness, the physical environment will respond accordingly. The current imbalances in nature, even the lack of so-called natural resources, is a product of the fact that humankind have become unbalanced and have co-created outside of God’s law. The laws of God are set up to provide humankind with the abundant life on Earth. And by aligning themselves with God’s laws, people will be able to bring forth conditions that will support ten billion people who live a comfortable material life without depleting natural resources, destroying the environmental balance or disrupting the planetary climate.

The stark reality is that for decades the power elite have been using the environmental issue to set up the belief in an impending doom that will then motivate people to give up their freedom, rights and money. During the Middle Ages, the elite used the Christian belief in hell and purgatory to scare people. Yet when they brought in materialistic science, this belief waned and they had to come up with alternatives. There are several of them, including pandemic diseases, invasions from space aliens, an asteroid hitting the Earth, economic collapse, nuclear war and – of course – environmental devastation.

The plan of the elite is to set up a widespread panic that will make people believe they have to choose between two evils, which makes it predictable that they will always choose what seems to be the lesser evil. Yet you only have to choose between two evils because you have a limited understanding of the situation, and you only have a limited view because you have not been willing to use your Christ discernment to seek input from a source that is above and beyond the duality of the ego. That source is, of course, your own Christ self and the Ascended Host.

When you seek such input, you will see that there is always an alternative to the man-made polarities. That alternative is to rise beyond the dualistic approach to life in which you are always pulled in opposite directions by two polarities. The alternative is to look at life through the mind of Christ, whereby you see that “With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:26). As explained above, when humankind align themselves with the laws of God, it is possible to solve environmental problems without giving up your democratic and economic freedoms and allowing the power elite to control every aspect of your lives.

In fact, by allowing the power elite to continue to control the environmental debate, it is a certainty that the debate will remain off track, and thus environmental problems will only get worse. The power elite are so blinded by spiritual pride that they will continue moving toward the abyss that leads them – as so many times in the past – to kill the goose – in this case an entire planet – that lays the golden egg.

I know my explanation can make it seem like it is hopeless for one person to do anything about this manipulation, but remember that this is what the elite always want you to believe. Their underlying message is that one person cannot make a difference. Yet the underlying message of my life and the lives of many other people is that one person CAN indeed make a difference—when he or she is working with God.

Therefore, let go of all sense of being overwhelmed and let God in you show you how you can make a personal contribution to bringing change. Always remember that for the power elite to triumph, it only takes that the top ten percent do nothing.

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]
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The thing that mankind needs to be aware of is that planetary changes-also known as natural disasters, are directly tied to humanities collective consciousness. We sow what we reap, on a planetary scale. The religious powers that be have convinced most Christian people of an armageddon situation, based upon what different parts of the deliberately revised/doctored bible says. It could be a self-fulfilling prophecy if we collectively allow it.


This is a teaching from the "Ask The Real Jesus" website. It is only part of the entire article, which I will link at the bottom. It explains quite well how we ultimately control the planetary changes on earth.

The greater awareness that needs to emerge is that Western society has been on the wrong track for centuries, even millennia, led astray by both orthodox Christianity and materialistic science—both of which have been used as fronts by the power elite. The most efficient way for the elite to manipulate a debate is to set up two opposite polarities and make people believe they have to choose either one, yet both polarities serve to maintain a situation where a small elite can dominate the population. This obscures that there is an alternative to both approaches, namely to reach for a higher understanding of the issue.

The Ascended Host are ready and willing to work with the most highly aware people to bring forth a higher environmental awareness. In fact, we have already started bringing this out through various individuals but it has not gained widespread acceptance because the mainstream media ignores it. The basic concept that needs to be understood is that this planet was created for a specific purpose, namely the spiritual evolution of humankind.

Thus, everything on Earth is set up to give humankind the best possible opportunity to learn the basic lesson of life, namely that human beings have the power of mind to create their own physical circumstances. Each person has – over many lifetimes – created his or her personal circumstances and humankind have – over many millennia – collectively created many of the limitations you see on Earth today.

Yet God’s laws are set up so that if people raise their consciousness, the physical environment will respond accordingly. The current imbalances in nature, even the lack of so-called natural resources, is a product of the fact that humankind have become unbalanced and have co-created outside of God’s law. The laws of God are set up to provide humankind with the abundant life on Earth. And by aligning themselves with God’s laws, people will be able to bring forth conditions that will support ten billion people who live a comfortable material life without depleting natural resources, destroying the environmental balance or disrupting the planetary climate.

The stark reality is that for decades the power elite have been using the environmental issue to set up the belief in an impending doom that will then motivate people to give up their freedom, rights and money. During the Middle Ages, the elite used the Christian belief in hell and purgatory to scare people. Yet when they brought in materialistic science, this belief waned and they had to come up with alternatives. There are several of them, including pandemic diseases, invasions from space aliens, an asteroid hitting the Earth, economic collapse, nuclear war and – of course – environmental devastation.

The plan of the elite is to set up a widespread panic that will make people believe they have to choose between two evils, which makes it predictable that they will always choose what seems to be the lesser evil. Yet you only have to choose between two evils because you have a limited understanding of the situation, and you only have a limited view because you have not been willing to use your Christ discernment to seek input from a source that is above and beyond the duality of the ego. That source is, of course, your own Christ self and the Ascended Host.

When you seek such input, you will see that there is always an alternative to the man-made polarities. That alternative is to rise beyond the dualistic approach to life in which you are always pulled in opposite directions by two polarities. The alternative is to look at life through the mind of Christ, whereby you see that “With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:26). As explained above, when humankind align themselves with the laws of God, it is possible to solve environmental problems without giving up your democratic and economic freedoms and allowing the power elite to control every aspect of your lives.

In fact, by allowing the power elite to continue to control the environmental debate, it is a certainty that the debate will remain off track, and thus environmental problems will only get worse. The power elite are so blinded by spiritual pride that they will continue moving toward the abyss that leads them – as so many times in the past – to kill the goose – in this case an entire planet – that lays the golden egg.

I know my explanation can make it seem like it is hopeless for one person to do anything about this manipulation, but remember that this is what the elite always want you to believe. Their underlying message is that one person cannot make a difference. Yet the underlying message of my life and the lives of many other people is that one person CAN indeed make a difference—when he or she is working with God.

Therefore, let go of all sense of being overwhelmed and let God in you show you how you can make a personal contribution to bringing change. Always remember that for the power elite to triumph, it only takes that the top ten percent do nothing.

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH


Damn dude, nice paste and copy... my eyes are bleeding...

oil oil oil oil oil oil
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Free of what, you may ask?

Free of all the shit, most of you worry about everyday ...

Politics,

Race issues,

Economic worries,

NWO worries,

These are no longer issues for me and do you want to know why?

Because before long, you will throw your computer in the garbage can, along with your cell phone and laugh about the days when they seemed important.

You will think back to all the time you sent on sites like this and think what a load of bullshit that all was and all that achieved was distracting me from what was right in front of my face!

You will spend your days trying to survive and plotting your next move in the new darkened world.

So what am I talking about?

This ...

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Wow. Just wow. When stuff like this gets pinned it makes me wonder WTF I am doing coming here once/day.
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You're not free until you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.PERIOD.
 Quoting: John3:16Me


Your not free until you become a slave?

cruise

RE-FUCKING-TARDED.
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You're not free until you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.PERIOD.
 Quoting: John3:16Me


The ultimate mistake of Christians and most don't even know it exists.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.

But who is the him? It is very clear that the him is GOD who sent Jesus ... NOT Jesus! And this is proven in John 5:24.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him (GOD) that sent me (JESUS), hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Either John 5:24 is 100% wrong and Jesus gets it 100% wrong or you and the majority of Christians are misreading who the him is in John 3:15 and John 3:16 and you humans are wrong.

But also Jesus said

Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


So according to this you can even criticise Jesus and it will be forgiven, but you can never criticise the Holy Ghost which is sent by GOD.

Is Jesus really GOD then?
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I like that you are using the Scriptures but I think you need to go back and read again.....not just the above passages but the old testament prophecies of the Messiah. You cant pick and choose verses you think fit.



John 1:1-14
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
John’s Witness: The True Light
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own,[c] and His own[d] did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The Word Becomes Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

AND

Colossians 2:9
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

John 10:30-33
New King James Version (NKJV)
30 I and My Father are one.”
Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the jewish people took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33 The jewish people answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”


There are many more such passages. May God make His Word clear to you :)
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I love the way people do exactly what they accuse me of doing and don't realise they are doing it.

I have explained the misquoting you have done many times... BUT I'll try again.

Firstly Christians always go to man's teaching rather than Jesus'.

So I will stick to Jesus' ... afterall he is the alleged son of GOD/ or GOD himself if you selectively think like you seem to.

Would you say sticking to what jesus said might be a good plan?

John 10:30 I and My Father are one.” Does not mean what you think.

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


Question: So can we be GOD also? Jesus explains oneness here!

We can't be GOD but we can be as one with GOD "that they also may be one in us".

But furthermore Jesus states that the glory given to him by GOD means we can be one even as GOD and Jesus are one.

AGAIN we can't be GOD or Jesus... so your representation of oneness is seriously flawed OR Jesus is wrong!

But there are so many passages that point to what you are proposing as wrong.

John 5:37 Jesus says "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Noone has seen GOD and yet Jesus/GOD was sitting in front of them... How can this be?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So the father is greater than the son so how can Jesus be GOD? If they were the same wouldn't they be equal?

Matthew 26:39 “And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

Was he praying to himself? Why would he ask "if it be possible, let this cup pass from me" if he is GOD?

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Both have life in themselves... Why does Jesus separate what is supposedly the same?

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Without GOD Jesus can do nothing, is another statement of separation. It is GOD's will Jesus seeks not his own.

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

The son sees the father do things and then emulates GOD? Is the penny dropping yet?

Matthew 6:9 Our Father, which art in Heaven hallowed be thy name.

Was Jesus praying to himself? And isn't heaven supposedly within?

Matthew 27:46 My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Jesus pleads to know why GOD had foresaken him. If Jesus is GOD this makes no sense at all. Is he pleading with himself asking why he has foresaken himself?

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

This defines how Jesus defines "being as one", if we can be one with Jesus and GOD what is he saying here? I can't be Jesus or GOD so when he uses the words as one he is talking in a spiritual sense, being on the same page and understanding, NOT being one entity.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

GOD sent his SON (an entity) and the Holy Ghost (another entity in Jesus' name.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

So we can speak against JESUS but can't speak against the Holy Ghost as the latter only won't be forgiven? Aren't they one in the same under the trinity?

Either Jesus is wrong in all these passages or man is manipulating what he meant.

You guys trust man... I question man!

You guys trust dogma... I question dogma!

OK so Jesus was Jesus lying when he stated

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, THAT IS, GOD.

Believe what you want... BUT the Jesus' own words do not support your theory. May Jesus' words make the truth clear to you :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661



Im not sure why you are saying I am trusting in man's teaching unless youre implying the verses I quoted are not inspired (in which case the validity and accuracy of the verses you yourself quoted would be called into question seeing they were recorded by the disciples).

I think that youre struggling more with the concept of the Trinity than the divinty of Christ. In the same way that water is manifested as ice, steam and liquid so the Godhead is manifested in two persons and His Spirit. However, unlike water, God is all three simultaneously. Its a lot to wrap your mind around. Heres a great passage from Hebrews...

Hebrews 1
New King James Version (NKJV)
God’s Supreme Revelation
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself[a] purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
The Son Exalted Above Angels
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?[c]
And again:
“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?[d]
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”[e]
7 And of the angels He says:
“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”[f]
8 But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”[g]
10 And:
“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
11 They will perish, but You remain;
And they will all grow old like a garment;
12 Like a cloak You will fold them up,
And they will be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not fail.”[h]
13 But to which of the angels has He ever said:
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?


Note in verse 8, God calls the Son God. Think about how we are spirit, soul and body. The spirit flows through both and the body and the soul are both manifestations of the same being.


Another thing to consider is that Jesus became a man. Therefore, while still fully divine He took on our weak flesh. This was required because it was man's sin that needed to be judged and therefore the just punishment needed to be taken by God in the form of a man. The Bible clearly states "only God is good" (as you pointed out) and that all humans are sinners. W&o then was Jesus then if His blood was sufficient to cleanse us? (if you recall from the Old Testament, sacrifices had to be without blemish. This foreshadowed Christ Who was without sin).

Notice that no where in the Scriptures is Jesud' Godhood denied. Yet it us often both stated and implied by Himself and others that He is God in the flesh. The "only God is good" passage is a similar situation in which jesus is making it clear that one must either accept Him as Divine or or not. He cannot be somewhere in the middle.

The Mark 3 passage is another difficult one but it becones clear when read in the context of the entire chapter and New Testament.
The signs and miracles were a part of the evidence that He was the Christ (see how He answers John's doubts in Luke 7). He did these miracles through the Spirit. So by claiming He was casting out demons through Satan's power instead of the Spirit's, the scribes were ignoring the Spirit's evidence and denying Jesus' divinity (see mark 3: 30).. Obviously, if they continued to believe this they would rejecting the saving power if His blood. Hence, it is unforgiveable simply because they reject the only sacrifice that could cover their sin.


If Christ is not God then His blood has no power to cleanse us. The Cross displays God's because it was Him on the Cross, not a mere man. If you reject the many verses that explicitly state Jesus' divinity, then all the scriptures are negated, including the ones you state. They cannot be reliable.

The concept of the Trinity is very difficult. God bless you and I say that with all sincerity!
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Many of us have already arrived at the conclusion that nothing means anything.
Live each day for all you can get out of it.
There is no planning that one can do that will change anything thats to come.
Live the most comfortable life you can and ignore people that only have a goal in life of hurting or keeping others upset.
We are responsible for our own happiness and its there for the taking.Dont worry about what happened yesterday,to late to change it.
Dont worry about tomorrow because we have no idea what it may bring so there is nothing to do about it.
This day,this hour is all that counts because there may be no tomorrow.There were at least 140,000 people alive yesterday that arent today and the majority of those had no idea it was their last day.Live like it is your last day because it may be.
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Well said +1. I would only defer on the comfort part. Excessive comfort becomes sloth, greed, etc and is the (s)atan's playground. Love God, respect all life no matter what form for every living creature is a physical manifestation of him. See the world through your brother/sister's shoes, and know that happiness has nothing to do with material possessions. Every breath we take is a gift. Well said.
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Also, adversity gives birth to character. If we lived in world devoid of any character, it would be a terrible place.
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good luck w/everything. you'll need it.
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So out outside and enjoy the sunshine while it lasts.

Have fun kiss somebody ...
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Ollie Ollie In Come Free


It's getting dark and you've not been found. A voice calls out, echoing off parked cars and garage doors: "Ollie Ollie in come free!" meaning you've won. You can come out of your well-chosen hiding place. You are not "it."
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You're not free until you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.PERIOD.
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The ultimate mistake of Christians and most don't even know it exists.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.

But who is the him? It is very clear that the him is GOD who sent Jesus ... NOT Jesus! And this is proven in John 5:24.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him (GOD) that sent me (JESUS), hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Either John 5:24 is 100% wrong and Jesus gets it 100% wrong or you and the majority of Christians are misreading who the him is in John 3:15 and John 3:16 and you humans are wrong.

But also Jesus said

Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


So according to this you can even criticise Jesus and it will be forgiven, but you can never criticise the Holy Ghost which is sent by GOD.

Is Jesus really GOD then?
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I like that you are using the Scriptures but I think you need to go back and read again.....not just the above passages but the old testament prophecies of the Messiah. You cant pick and choose verses you think fit.



John 1:1-14
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The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
John’s Witness: The True Light
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own,[c] and His own[d] did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The Word Becomes Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

AND

Colossians 2:9
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9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

John 10:30-33
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30 I and My Father are one.”
Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the jewish people took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33 The jewish people answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”


There are many more such passages. May God make His Word clear to you :)
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I love the way people do exactly what they accuse me of doing and don't realise they are doing it.

I have explained the misquoting you have done many times... BUT I'll try again.

Firstly Christians always go to man's teaching rather than Jesus'.

So I will stick to Jesus' ... afterall he is the alleged son of GOD/ or GOD himself if you selectively think like you seem to.

Would you say sticking to what jesus said might be a good plan?

John 10:30 I and My Father are one.” Does not mean what you think.

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


Question: So can we be GOD also? Jesus explains oneness here!

We can't be GOD but we can be as one with GOD "that they also may be one in us".

But furthermore Jesus states that the glory given to him by GOD means we can be one even as GOD and Jesus are one.

AGAIN we can't be GOD or Jesus... so your representation of oneness is seriously flawed OR Jesus is wrong!

But there are so many passages that point to what you are proposing as wrong.

John 5:37 Jesus says "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Noone has seen GOD and yet Jesus/GOD was sitting in front of them... How can this be?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So the father is greater than the son so how can Jesus be GOD? If they were the same wouldn't they be equal?

Matthew 26:39 “And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

Was he praying to himself? Why would he ask "if it be possible, let this cup pass from me" if he is GOD?

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Both have life in themselves... Why does Jesus separate what is supposedly the same?

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Without GOD Jesus can do nothing, is another statement of separation. It is GOD's will Jesus seeks not his own.

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

The son sees the father do things and then emulates GOD? Is the penny dropping yet?

Matthew 6:9 Our Father, which art in Heaven hallowed be thy name.

Was Jesus praying to himself? And isn't heaven supposedly within?

Matthew 27:46 My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Jesus pleads to know why GOD had foresaken him. If Jesus is GOD this makes no sense at all. Is he pleading with himself asking why he has foresaken himself?

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

This defines how Jesus defines "being as one", if we can be one with Jesus and GOD what is he saying here? I can't be Jesus or GOD so when he uses the words as one he is talking in a spiritual sense, being on the same page and understanding, NOT being one entity.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

GOD sent his SON (an entity) and the Holy Ghost (another entity in Jesus' name.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

So we can speak against JESUS but can't speak against the Holy Ghost as the latter only won't be forgiven? Aren't they one in the same under the trinity?

Either Jesus is wrong in all these passages or man is manipulating what he meant.

You guys trust man... I question man!

You guys trust dogma... I question dogma!

OK so Jesus was Jesus lying when he stated

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, THAT IS, GOD.

Believe what you want... BUT the Jesus' own words do not support your theory. May Jesus' words make the truth clear to you :)
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Great post hf
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You're not free until you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.PERIOD.
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The ultimate mistake of Christians and most don't even know it exists.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.

But who is the him? It is very clear that the him is GOD who sent Jesus ... NOT Jesus! And this is proven in John 5:24.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him (GOD) that sent me (JESUS), hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Either John 5:24 is 100% wrong and Jesus gets it 100% wrong or you and the majority of Christians are misreading who the him is in John 3:15 and John 3:16 and you humans are wrong.

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Jesus said he was lying but John was telling the truth.

John 5:3I If I bear witness about myself, my witness is false.

John 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

John 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.

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Sounds pretty wonderful. I'm ready.
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I was paying attention untill you started with the religious nut-baggery why the fuck is this stickied...
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Yeah, me too. (Just read further into the thread) tomato

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So out outside and enjoy the sunshine while it lasts.

Have fun kiss somebody ...
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Yeah, you're right !
One brilliant Russian Physicist in the early 1990's confidently predicted a NEW ICE AGE STARTING BEFORE 2020
I guess he's right and AL "I INVENTED THE INTERNET" GORE is dead wrong,
AGAIN, AGAIN !!!
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I was gonna ask you if you had died or something. But that paper you've writen is cool too, I guess. More power to you! banana2
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Oh, I thought you had gotten divorced.

Welcome to the kook-free lifestyle!!!!
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