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JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....

 
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Son = Sun
God = Good

Man, the first day I felt the warmth of the sun on my skin this year I felt sooo good.I work outdoors.You know, Energetic.Fresh spirits. Feels like.....heaven.
Every cold day that followed, I wished for the sun the next day.
My guess is, that it must have felt like this too 100,1000,5000,10000 years ago.

No linkie
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jesus is just normal human being. nothing more. why would ur god must have sex with normal human being. it will be adultery. who want to follow person that full of sin? it sound like alien implanted seed in the human being hahahhaa. alien must be the god than.
i would rather say mary got pregnant when the god said so. not having sex with her or implanted any seed from Him. logical thnking will not accept God commit sinful action with human being. and jesus is the son of mary not god. god just order mary to get pregnan.

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be what you want to be
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bull shit and unpin
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If you ask me if I am the son of God, and I answer yes. Would that make me a son of God too?
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If you ask me if I am the son of God, and I answer yes. Would that make me a son of God too?
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NO.
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Oh, and by the way, Jesus was born in Egypt so he was a black man.
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jesus never said he is son of the god. but stupid people claimed he is.
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Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Amen

And so then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
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yhwh ain't got.
ergo: neither jesus.
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Yes, I know that is how everyone is taught in this hellzone. They are taught about pyramids, GOD, THRONE, MAJESTY, BOW DOWN, and OBEY THE KING.

Christ if he existed was a TEACHER, a HIGHER UP, His OWN HIGHER SELF, SUPERMAN IN THE SYSTEM. But its all coded, so we don't know.

His words are good and Love.

BUT LOVE IS HUMBLE. It does not sit on thrones. Turn all pyramids upside down to equality and LOVE and then you have, the GOOD FAMILY, including, MOM and DAD, and all our Brothers and Sisters.

That is part of seeing through the world and seeking within.

The reglions are run by TPTB.

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HE will be coming back in great glory and every eye will see....


"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. "

Matthew 24:27




Then they all said, "Are You then the Son of God?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am."

Luke 22:70




"Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."

Mark 3:11




"When Jesus heard [that], He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it."

John 11:4




"Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed [this] to you, but My Father who is in heaven"

Mat. 16:16-17



angel3
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Yup and im also the Son of God.:)
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Aren't they the same guy? Or are there new rules to this game now? As gentle jesus said in matthew 10:34 'don't assume that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.' Yes, we non believers also have access to that book, and yes we can read, and no we don't conveniently misinterpret or reinterpret it to suit our agenda. If a man says something then sure as fuck he said it! That ignorant rabble rousing desert pedestrian got the cross because he was a shit disturber and a violent bastard to boot, just like his daddy.
You want scripture...I'll give you scripture.
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1BUT BUT I'M A ATHEIST AND I KNOW EVERYTHING!
2WE ARE GOD
3RELIGION TARD

/thread over

lol im kidding im christian.
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chuckle

*please add:

4 And even if God actually existed, I´d hate him.
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My 2 questions. How will 2 billion christians and all the other faiths be decieved in the end times. Like yourself you could just open the book that you know like the back of your hand. How is it possible that this many people with the worlds most printed book be not capable of reading it and still being decieved. I think we already have been. I have had faith and walked the path like you couldnt ever imagine. Yet I feel decieved. I dont feel no love from Christ. I do sync with technology though, word by word. Sometimes I wonder what it is. Who it is.

Also Jesus said to not worry about the food you eat because the Lord provides for them does he not. He couldnt have seen that millions starve to death daily, God would know this.
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I wouldn't hate him...I'd kill him. :-)
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OP is either ignorant or intentionally not mentioning the direct testimony of Jesus where he says he is not god, nor the son of god, and other verses where he refers to others as son of GOD also, which means it is not literal rather it is an expression.

Don't take anything OP says seriously, his conclusion has already been refuted by the same Bible he is using to back up his conclusion.

FAIL!!
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Thats mainly my question really. How could billions be decieved even though they know the book well. All those people, even people who only know the story from a narrative play know how it goes. Yet they will all be decieved. Logical answer is that we have been decieved.
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can somebody please because im starting to wonder what wolves in sheeps clothing is about. Billions of them
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My 2 questions. How will 2 billion christians and all the other faiths be decieved in the end times. Like yourself you could just open the book that you know like the back of your hand. How is it possible that this many people with the worlds most printed book be not capable of reading it and still being decieved. I think we already have been. I have had faith and walked the path like you couldnt ever imagine. Yet I feel decieved. I dont feel no love from Christ. I do sync with technology though, word by word. Sometimes I wonder what it is. Who it is.

Also Jesus said to not worry about the food you eat because the Lord provides for them does he not. He couldnt have seen that millions starve to death daily, God would know this.
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jesus never said he is son of the god. but stupid people claimed he is.
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There are verses which claims Jesus is the son of GOD, but that is expression and not literal.

Anyone who has even read half of the Bible will see many verses referring to many people as "son of GOD", not only Jesus. This is an expression rather than a literal term.

The expression means you're close to GOD, like a son is close to his father, it is not literal, it is just Shaytan tricking weak Christians in to believing it literally means "Jesus is the Son of GOD". If that term is taken literally then according to Bible God has a lot of sons other than Jesus (Nauzebellah).
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Thats mainly my question really. How could billions be decieved even though they know the book well. All those people, even people who only know the story from a narrative play know how it goes. Yet they will all be decieved. Logical answer is that we have been decieved.
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Do they really know it well?
seems today its very popular to discredit the Bible as Unreliable, even though the scriptures prophecy with 100% accuracy.

Many will be and are deceived

There's an under lining message all through the Bible from beginning to end stated plainly again and again

Yet People Choose to Ignore that simple Message
see:
Ecclesiastes 12:13,
Psalm 111:7-8,
Matthew 5:17-18
1 John 3:4
Revelation 22:14 and the rest of the Bible!
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HE will be coming back in great glory and every eye will see....


"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. "

Matthew 24:27




Then they all said, "Are You then the Son of God?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am."

Luke 22:70




"Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."

Mark 3:11




"When Jesus heard [that], He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it."

John 11:4




"Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed [this] to you, but My Father who is in heaven"

Mat. 16:16-17



angel3
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Nope. Jesus is a son of God. Just like we can become sons and daughters of God. No different. Your bibles have been doctored and rewritten by the religious powers that be.

Why would Jesus say :



17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

John 20: 10-18 NIV


Let's take the words of Jesus Himself. John 14:12


12Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he shall do also; and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto My Father.

This very clearly states that those of us that believe in Jesus, will be able to do the works/miracles that He did and greater. There is no way to disagree with these words of Jesus. This being the case, there is no way Jesus could have been the only Son of God, or part of the Trinity.

As Jesus himself said, we would be able to do greater works then he did. That cannot be possible if Jesus is God, as that means we would be able to do greater works then God.

The only conclusion any rational human being can make is:
1)Jesus is not God
2)Jesus actually never said these words, but maybe somebody added them to the bible
3) the translation got screwed up

My own research proved that neither 2 or 3 is a possibility, as cross referencing all other bible passages confirms that Jesus actually did say these words.

My personal belief is that Jesus came down to earth to show us how to achieve Christhood or the Christ consciousness.

People are more than happy to accept the idea that Jesus Christ was the only son of God. Why is this so? Because this gives them the ultimate excuse for continuing their lifestyle. If Jesus was the only son of God, then they could not possibly follow in his footsteps. Therefore, they could do nothing to work out their own salvation. They simply had to wait for the outer savior, Jesus, to come and save them.

If Jesus was an example to follow, then people might have a responsibility to follow Him. In other words, if they had the potential to become Christed beings, and if doing so would require them to make an effort, they would have to change their ways.

Do you see how the idea that Jesus was the only son of God can become the ultimate excuse which gives people the perfect justification for continuing in their ways?

I pray that all Christians come to an understanding of the true purpose of Jesus' teachings: to tell us and show us how to achieve a state of Christhood in this current life stream. Namaste!
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH



Thank you for posting this ATONTRUTH. Makes perfect sense.
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jesus never said he is son of the god. but stupid people claimed he is.
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There are verses which claims Jesus is the son of GOD, but that is expression and not literal.

Anyone who has even read half of the Bible will see many verses referring to many people as "son of GOD", not only Jesus. This is an expression rather than a literal term.

The expression means you're close to GOD, like a son is close to his father, it is not literal, it is just Shaytan tricking weak Christians in to believing it literally means "Jesus is the Son of GOD". If that term is taken literally then according to Bible God has a lot of sons other than Jesus (Nauzebellah).
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Immanuel = God with us (literally, God in a human body)

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Thats mainly my question really. How could billions be decieved even though they know the book well. All those people, even people who only know the story from a narrative play know how it goes. Yet they will all be decieved. Logical answer is that we have been decieved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366745

Do they really know it well?
seems today its very popular to discredit the Bible as Unreliable, even though the scriptures prophecy with 100% accuracy.

Many will be and are deceived

There's an under lining message all through the Bible from beginning to end stated plainly again and again

Yet People Choose to Ignore that simple Message
see:
Ecclesiastes 12:13,
Psalm 111:7-8,
Matthew 5:17-18
1 John 3:4
Revelation 22:14 and the rest of the Bible!
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What I mean is most followers believe in an adversary. So its in plain writing how it will play out. If a world leader stepped up the whole planet can open the bible and be like oh yeh it does say here he is the bad guy. How could everyone get it wrong? I just believe there was only ever one being. Good and bad. You could make a personal choice and they may hear it. Based on what you think is right and wrong. Thats my guess, so its not all bad. I always thought I could be reborn while here and feel good again. I cant see that happening. I feel decieved. Dont get me wrong its always been about Christ for me. Its just with the question I asked earlier, that would be the most logical answer as to how a planet could be decieved. Its written or not written.
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jesus never said he is son of the god. but stupid people claimed he is.
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There are verses which claims Jesus is the son of GOD, but that is expression and not literal.

Anyone who has even read half of the Bible will see many verses referring to many people as "son of GOD", not only Jesus. This is an expression rather than a literal term.

The expression means you're close to GOD, like a son is close to his father, it is not literal, it is just Shaytan tricking weak Christians in to believing it literally means "Jesus is the Son of GOD". If that term is taken literally then according to Bible God has a lot of sons other than Jesus (Nauzebellah).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14245668


Immanuel = God with us (literally, God in a human body)


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Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (John 8:58)

Verily, verily - This is an expression used only in John. It is a strong affirmation denoting particularly the great importance of what was about to be affirmed. See the notes at John 3:5.

Before Abraham was - Before Abraham lived.

I am - The expression I am, though in the present tense, is clearly designed to refer to a past time. Thus, in Psalm 90:2, "From everlasting to everlasting thou art God."

Applied to God, it denotes continued existence without respect to time, so far as he is concerned. We divide time into the past, the present, and the future.

The expression, applied to God, denotes that he does not measure his existence in this manner, but that the word by which we express the present denotes his continued and unchanging existence.

Hence, he assumes it as his name, "I AM," and "I AM that I AM," Exodus 3:14. Compare Isaiah 44:6; Isaiah 47:8.

There is a remarkable similarity between the expression employed by Jesus in this place and that used in Exodus to denote the name of God.

The manner in which Jesus used it would strikingly suggest the application of the same language to God. The question here was about his pre-existence.

The objection of the jewish people was that he was not 50 years old, and could not, therefore, have seen Abraham.

Jesus replied to that that he existed before Abraham.

As in his human nature he was not yet 50 years old, and could not, as a man, have existed before Abraham, this declaration must be referred to another nature; and the passage proves that, while he was a man, he was also endowed with another nature existing before Abraham, and to which he applied the term (familiar to the jewish people as expressive of the existence of God) I AM; and this declaration corresponds to the affirmation of John Joh 1:1, that he was in the beginning with God, and was God. This affirmation of Jesus is one of the proofs on which John relies to prove that he was the Messiah John 20:31, to establish which was the design of writing this book.
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Thats mainly my question really. How could billions be decieved even though they know the book well. All those people, even people who only know the story from a narrative play know how it goes. Yet they will all be decieved. Logical answer is that we have been decieved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366745

Do they really know it well?
seems today its very popular to discredit the Bible as Unreliable, even though the scriptures prophecy with 100% accuracy.

Many will be and are deceived

There's an under lining message all through the Bible from beginning to end stated plainly again and again

Yet People Choose to Ignore that simple Message
see:
Ecclesiastes 12:13,
Psalm 111:7-8,
Matthew 5:17-18
1 John 3:4
Revelation 22:14 and the rest of the Bible!
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If I lived in a poor country and waited for God to feed me Id starve. He would feed the birds, he would say do not worry because the birds dont, yet millions starve.
I want it to be a happy ending, I have always believed that. I could still make a choice. Its just some things dont add up, like the questions I asked. There are other ways a book could predict the future you know. Dosent mean It came from God but maybe our slave masters.
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Anyway Good luck everyone hf
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"Before Abraham was, I AM."

That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the past tense, from its being in answer to the jewish people, who enquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him.

The ancient jewish people not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels, but that his celestial nature existed with God from whom it emanated, before the creation, and that the creation was effected by his ministry.

Ex 3:14 Isa 43:13
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"Before Abraham was, I AM."

That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the past tense, from its being in answer to the jewish people, who enquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him.

The ancient jewish people not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels, but that his celestial nature existed with God from whom it emanated, before the creation, and that the creation was effected by his ministry.

Ex 3:14 Isa 43:13
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Not before Adam, but "before Abraham" only. Think again.

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