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is it your interpretation of the HOLY SPIRITS?
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I have asked you a simple question why you feel my interpretation is wrong or yours in right? What is your interpretation of "HOLY SPIRITS"?
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you have to be walking in the SPIRIT to know the LORD and unlock the mysteries of the Scripturese. It is not about your interpretation. It is about the SPIRIT leading. Something our flesh does not understand and never will.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


How can you be sure it's a holy spirit leading you and not a deceptive demon? or just a Delusional disorder (most delusional disorders affect those who claim to be highly religious).. You wouldn't know the difference.
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when you walk with the LORD, you know HIS voice....

just like child knows his mom or dad's voice and a parent know's their child's voice....

we are family

'My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me'

John 10:27


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How are you people calling a HEBREW man by a GREEK/Latin name? This doesn't make sense to me.
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He is the Son of man, not just a Hebrew.

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth Isaiah 49:6
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Religion is just us trying to appease GOD because we killed his ambassador to earth. Face it, we fucked up. Now we will have to learn the secrets of the universe ourselves.
 Quoting: HangDawg


JESUS is an alien? You are believing in demonic teaching ....there are demons that are leading people right down to path to destruction....

be careful what you say you believe in....

you KNOW NOT the spiritual world....

there are demons and evil spirits that are working fulltime to deceive people and turn them away from the REAL JESUS....
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
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why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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Everybody I know is the son of God.

OP is the son of God as well, though he will likely not admit it.
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JESUS is now sitting at the right hand of hand of the FATHER.

HE was raised from the dead and walked arouhnd for 40 days AFTER HE DIED.

HE is THE Son of GOD. HE is resurrected. HE is the ONLY way to the FATHER.

IF you deny this, then you call JESUS a liar.


'Now [this is] the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Hebrews 11:8



Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 14:7

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE



Here is another thought I have been considering, or perhaps struggling with, lately, regarding this verse here:

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 14:7


Everywhere in the Bible Jesus always says "No one comes to the FATHER, but through me." Or he says specifically, no one may enter the "kingdom of God;" without Him. Jesus NEVER specifically says that the only way to Heaven is through Him. He never uses that word, "heaven." He always refers to it as "the kingdom of God."

I have begun to start believing that perhaps Heaven, or the spiritual world, is a very very large dimension, with different places in it. Within heaven there is a Kingdom of God, but there may be other nice places as well, places outside the Kingdom of God. Some people who believe in God, but perhaps haven't believed in Christ (like jewish people, maybe Muslims, etc) will enter into heaven but they still will not be able to enter the Kingdom of God until they are more spiritually developed.

I told my husband of my thoughts...(he has also been a well-studied traditional protestant Christian for many years and has also studied some in seminary)...and he warned me that, it is possible what I say is true, BUT that he chooses to believe that Jesus is the only way because it is "better safe than sorry." In other words, it's better to be sure you are going to the Kingdom of God that to risk being wrong and going to hell. He says he doesn't want to lead anyone astray by inserting our "own thoughts" into what the Bible has said (even if we believe our thoughts may have come from the Holy Spirit. He says we can't be sure yet if those thoughts come from the Holy Spirit or if they are lies from the devil.) I agree with him on those points too.

Anyone else have thoughts or insights on this?


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 Quoting: nightowl



Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Matthew 24:35


The Kigdom of God is beyond both:

The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. 2 Chronicles 6:18, 1 Kings 8:27

Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
8They are higher than the heavens—what can you do?
They are deeper than the depths of the grave—what can you know? Job 11

5Be exalted, O God, above the heavens; let your glory be over all the earth. Psalm 57
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Thank you, thank you AC from Slovakia. This is exactly what I've been looking for. I have to leave for an appointment but will search these scriptures later.
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Can someone explain this to me?

Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."



Or this

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)


(I dont see the women on here being quiet and listening because they try to teach as they see the bible. Which judging from many responses they dont understand much)

I believe in God. However... After years of bible stufy the contradictions are tugging at my mind. (and dont say its the devil.)
As in, we are told we will be told we will be judged by our works. Yet, all through out the bible we are also told we will be judged by the works of our fathers.

The death of Judas. The Matthew version does not add up to the Acts version.

John 15:15
For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you
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Then, shortly after we read:

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.



Are beleivers supposed to fallow OT or not?

Malachi 4:4
Remember ye the law of Moses.


Luke 16:17
It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.


Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law.


I could go on and on really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10903872


yes, that is quite easy to answer....

you are looking and trying to understand the WORD in the flesh because you're born just once....in the physical.

the WORD becomes unlocked to HIS believers who have been BORN AGAIN a second time....with GOD's SPIRIT

It is GOD's SPIRIT that will unlock the Scriptures not you yourself.

The WORD holds mysteries of the LORD. That is why JESUS talked in parables.

It is only for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.


"And He said, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest [it is given] in parables, that 'Seeing they may not see, And hearing they may not understand"

Luke 8:10



"Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God."

1 Cor. 4:1

 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


How do you know my situation? In fact i'll tell you my situation. I use to not believe in anything. Then I seen all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. This time is coming to an end soon. I began reading the bible for answers. Not just in English, but from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic roots.
God has spoke through me and shown me my answers. I was worried deeply what would happen to everyone after the things to come and I heard through me that the people will be okay. Its the evil he is concerned with. For 6 years now I have been very indulged in the bible and other holy text. Day in and day out. My spirit is open and close to God as I see him.
That is very trite of you to assume my belief or lack of belief or spirit.
The questions I posed are questions that many people have. You stated that the bible becomes unlocked when you are born a second time. Only a second time?

Job 37:24
He respecteth not any that are wise of heart.
1 Corinthians 1:19
For I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


But thats not what the bible says here. Being that those in close spirit to the Lord are wise at heart.

I just want to know why the bible is not consistent in factual matters. It is up to us to discern what is literal and what is a spiritual message. Unless. The geneoligies, which are inconsistent, have some spiritual message as well?

Colossians 1:16
By him [Jesus] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.


Christ is equal with God
John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God
John 14:28/ Matt 24:36



Doesn't add up to Genesis 1:1

Well one could say, that Jesus is God in the flesh. But the bible also points out that Jesus and God are separate beings.

Saying that only those with the holy spirit can understand the bible is hypocritical. Since the word is to draw us close to him? Then how can one draw close to him if they can not understand him?


Paul thinks he had the holy spirit. Or did he? 1 cor. 7:40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

The book by Paul... Who was INSPIRED by the holy spirit is one eyebrow raise after another.

Not only when it comes to things of the spirit, but historical facts, creation facts etc.
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JESUS is an alien? You are believing in demonic teaching ....there are demons that are leading people right down to path to destruction....

be careful what you say you believe in....

you KNOW NOT the spiritual world....

there are demons and evil spirits that are working fulltime to deceive people and turn them away from the REAL JESUS....
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OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510


why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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I am very sure....but you're getting so side-tracked about HIM being an alien....I really don't understand what the point is??

JESUS is sitting at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. That is where HE is ...HE is not sitting in an alien ship somewhere....sorry to disappoint you.
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Funny thing is that Religious folks think that Jesus never cursed.. They think that he never had sex.. They think that he was this boring asshole who had no life..

NO, WRONG!

Jesus was/is a Rebel who lives/lived against the systems of control set into place by the Kings who ruled them.. Any person today that resists the Tyrannical Kings is the spirit of JESUS! Any of you who can actually see through the controlling mechanisms of organized religion are the spirit Jesus!

For the rest of you, ADIOS!

hf

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It is nice you believe in Jesus, but to know him we study his word.
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See here's the thing.. What I know came from Christ.. What you know came from a book written by control freaks..

Have it your way..

hf
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JESUS is an alien? You are believing in demonic teaching ....there are demons that are leading people right down to path to destruction....

be careful what you say you believe in....

you KNOW NOT the spiritual world....

there are demons and evil spirits that are working fulltime to deceive people and turn them away from the REAL JESUS....
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510


why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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Because He is one of the sons of man, the Son of man.
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How are you people calling a HEBREW man by a GREEK/Latin name? This doesn't make sense to me.
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He is the Son of man, not just a Hebrew.

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth Isaiah 49:6
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He cannot be the Son of Man, Man was here many thousands of years before he showed up in the scene..
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HE will be coming back in great glory and every eye will see....


"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. "

Matthew 24:27




Then they all said, "Are You then the Son of God?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am."

Luke 22:70




"Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."

Mark 3:11




"When Jesus heard [that], He said, "This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it."

John 11:4




"Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed [this] to you, but My Father who is in heaven"

Mat. 16:16-17



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Nope. Jesus is a son of God. Just like we can become sons and daughters of God. No different. Your bibles have been doctored and rewritten by the religious powers that be.

Why would Jesus say :



17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

John 20: 10-18 NIV


Let's take the words of Jesus Himself. John 14:12


12Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he shall do also; and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto My Father.

This very clearly states that those of us that believe in Jesus, will be able to do the works/miracles that He did and greater. There is no way to disagree with these words of Jesus. This being the case, there is no way Jesus could have been the only Son of God, or part of the Trinity.

As Jesus himself said, we would be able to do greater works then he did. That cannot be possible if Jesus is God, as that means we would be able to do greater works then God.

The only conclusion any rational human being can make is:
1)Jesus is not God
2)Jesus actually never said these words, but maybe somebody added them to the bible
3) the translation got screwed up

My own research proved that neither 2 or 3 is a possibility, as cross referencing all other bible passages confirms that Jesus actually did say these words.

My personal belief is that Jesus came down to earth to show us how to achieve Christhood or the Christ consciousness.

People are more than happy to accept the idea that Jesus Christ was the only son of God. Why is this so? Because this gives them the ultimate excuse for continuing their lifestyle. If Jesus was the only son of God, then they could not possibly follow in his footsteps. Therefore, they could do nothing to work out their own salvation. They simply had to wait for the outer savior, Jesus, to come and save them.

If Jesus was an example to follow, then people might have a responsibility to follow Him. In other words, if they had the potential to become Christed beings, and if doing so would require them to make an effort, they would have to change their ways.

Do you see how the idea that Jesus was the only son of God can become the ultimate excuse which gives people the perfect justification for continuing in their ways?

I pray that all Christians come to an understanding of the true purpose of Jesus' teachings: to tell us and show us how to achieve a state of Christhood in this current life stream. Namaste!
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH


Interesting idea, and I appreciate all the research you have done too.

About this verse:

12Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth in Me, the works that I do he shall do also; and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto My Father.

I have always thought that this verse pertained to miracles we may be able to do in the afterlife.

Any thoughts on that?
 Quoting: nightowl


These miracles can be done by souls on earth right now, so long as they have reached a certain level of Christhood. I couldn't tell you how many have reached this level, but miracles performed must be done for the glory and advancement of souls here on earth. This cuts through all religious beliefs as anybody has the potential. This will be something we will be seeing more of as the Golden age comes to fruition.
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Funny thing is that Religious folks think that Jesus never cursed.. They think that he never had sex.. They think that he was this boring asshole who had no life..

NO, WRONG!

Jesus was/is a Rebel who lives/lived against the systems of control set into place by the Kings who ruled them.. Any person today that resists the Tyrannical Kings is the spirit of JESUS! Any of you who can actually see through the controlling mechanisms of organized religion are the spirit Jesus!

For the rest of you, ADIOS!

hf

cruise
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It is nice you believe in Jesus, but to know him we study his word.
 Quoting: Axx 14472149


See here's the thing.. What I know came from Christ.. What you know came from a book written by control freaks..

Have it your way..

hf
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Apparently not from this One:

Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms. Luke 24

Your Christ is some another guy.
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Nice thread. I find it truely biblical that so many people can have a flawed opinion about the same thing. I especially love the bible thumpers quoting the bible and calling it the word of God when it is documented and factual that it was written by men. It is a history book. It does cover historical events. But anyone that believes that a book written 25-30 years after a man has "died" can quote that man word for word is just not logical. Make no mistake, I am not athiest. But then again I am not easily fooled by the evil that permeates religion. Christian being some of the most foolish. They claim a need to be saved. From what I do not know. But if they are christians and follow that lifestyle, there would be no need to be saved. Hypocrits indeed. Wish you all the best. Just remember that just because you have felt the power of love and energy of the universe, does not mean it is what you were told it is. If you can say that you know the truth, then have learned little about this existance and you are doomed to repeat it.
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we are all sons and daughters of the universal Creator

say goodbye to your religion

Consciousness is changing
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How are you people calling a HEBREW man by a GREEK/Latin name? This doesn't make sense to me.
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He is the Son of man, not just a Hebrew.

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth Isaiah 49:6
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He cannot be the Son of Man, Man was here many thousands of years before he showed up in the scene..
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Jesus was the first one being conceived and born properly.
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we are all sons and daughters of the universal Creator

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An oxymoron.

Created does not mean conceived/born. Your New-Age-BS-ers fail miserably.
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Nice thread. I find it truely biblical that so many people can have a flawed opinion about the same thing. I especially love the bible thumpers quoting the bible and calling it the word of God when it is documented and factual that it was written by men. It is a history book. It does cover historical events. But anyone that believes that a book written 25-30 years after a man has "died" can quote that man word for word is just not logical. Make no mistake, I am not athiest. But then again I am not easily fooled by the evil that permeates religion. Christian being some of the most foolish. They claim a need to be saved. From what I do not know. But if they are christians and follow that lifestyle, there would be no need to be saved. Hypocrits indeed. Wish you all the best. Just remember that just because you have felt the power of love and energy of the universe, does not mean it is what you were told it is. If you can say that you know the truth, then have learned little about this existance and you are doomed to repeat it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367105


the WORD of GOD has the MESSAGE OF GOD....

it is ALIVE....

and you need to have 'spiritual glasses' to understand it...or it is JUST A BOOK with many interpretations.

Can I say this to you......without the SPIRIT you CANNOT understand the spiritual world....including the BIBLE which is written in spiritual language...

that is why I am preaching the second birth....

become born spiritually....

and you will understand what I'm talking about....

the physical has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SPIRIT....

ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come and live inside of you....

then life will become 2 dimensional and you will see things you never saw before....

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Thanks OP


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JESUS is an alien? You are believing in demonic teaching ....there are demons that are leading people right down to path to destruction....

be careful what you say you believe in....

you KNOW NOT the spiritual world....

there are demons and evil spirits that are working fulltime to deceive people and turn them away from the REAL JESUS....
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894510


why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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His exact words were, "My Kingdom is not of this Earth".. Definitely alien, as we all are.
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Jesus was a man who became GOD.. not the other way around.
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Thanks OP


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OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
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why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
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WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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His exact words were, "My Kingdom is not of this Earth".. Definitely alien, as we all are.
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how old are you? sounds like my son
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OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
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why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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His exact words were, "My Kingdom is not of this Earth".. Definitely alien, as we all are.
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iamwith

This is what the LORD says: Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be? Isaiah 66:1


God is God, not an alien.
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the OP needs to follow 1 Timothy 2:12


"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."
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How are you people calling a HEBREW man by a GREEK/Latin name? This doesn't make sense to me.
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He is the Son of man, not just a Hebrew.

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth Isaiah 49:6
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"formed in the womb" as in artificially inseminated with alien DNA
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the OP needs to follow 1 Timothy 2:12


"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."
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I asked about that verse. Never got a direct answer. Something like... only the 2nd born again people can understand what the bible says.
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How are you people calling a HEBREW man by a GREEK/Latin name? This doesn't make sense to me.
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He is the Son of man, not just a Hebrew.

And now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength--he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth Isaiah 49:6
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"formed in the womb" as in artificially inseminated with alien DNA
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putin


"Born of Spirit and water" has NOTHING to do with an insamination.
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OK. OP here's a real simple question. In your mind Jesus isn't from another world right meaning he's not alien. What makes you so sure he's not, nothing in the bible say's he not an alien, but more words point to the fact that he is from another world, "alien"

WHY CAN'T JESUS BE ALIEN OP? (and you can't say "well he just isn't" just back up something in your reading of the bible that say's he's not.
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why does it matter at all?? JESUS is the SON OF GOD. EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM....

that is all that really matters....

HE came as a LAMB and will return as a LION.

Hear HIM roar....

HIS wrath is coming....

judgment is falling....

don't get caught in it...
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


WAIT. You stated "Jesus is not alien" I asked why not & you now change and say "what does it matter"?.. You don't sound so sure of your self.. WHY couldn't he be from another planet?
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I am very sure....but you're getting so side-tracked about HIM being an alien....I really don't understand what the point is??

JESUS is sitting at the RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. That is where HE is ...HE is not sitting in an alien ship somewhere....sorry to disappoint you.
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Sitting next to his father on another planet. But why can't you fathom him sitting on a ship somewhere?.. what in bible say's that's not the case?... You keep avoiding the question. The question is WHY? or HOW do you know?.. don't give me that spirit guided me bs..
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the OP needs to follow 1 Timothy 2:12


"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet."
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I asked about that verse. Never got a direct answer. Something like... only the 2nd born again people can understand what the bible says.
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the OP clearly picks and chooses what to follow from the bible.
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"But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head..." 1 Corinthians 11:5


"For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken. No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God." (Leviticus 21:18-21)


"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into h**l, into the fire that never shall be quenched." (Mark 9:43)



If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)


And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. (Leviticus 15:19)

These are all great verses as well.

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Re: JESUS is the SON of GOD.....NOT just a prophet or a great teacher.....
I just love reading these threads. It cracks me up. Arguing an unprovable argument. The only way to prove you are right or wrong is to die, then you can't tell anyone. I thought I was saved once. I didn't get it till a few weeks after that "accepting Jesus as your personal savior" really meant that you were supposed to give 10 % of your income to the church. And gladly at that. I could accept Jesus as my personal savior, but I couldn't be an actual member of the church without paying for it. Jesus doesn't save, the church does. every penny. BTW, think of your actions. When you boast of your spiritual relationship , you are taking the Lords name in vain.

If you read the bible and as many other spiritual guides as you can, you will eventually find a common thread. When you realize that you are tired of reading other peoples experiences, you will understand that it doesn't matter what you or anyone thinks on the matter. Then you will be sitting comfortably by yourself somewhere having a good chuckle, like Jesus is right now.

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