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Fluoride is bad for you and causes cancer - DEBUNKED

 
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Its rat poison you Moron....On you teeth its good, not supposed to drink it.
 Quoting: smokahontas


sodium fluoride is not even good on teeth bro, causes fluorosis , there is some evidence a very miniscule amount of calcium fluoride is good for teeth, but that is some shady evidence at best

sodium fluoride is a class 4 level(highest level) deadly toxin
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Conspiracy theories involving fluoridation are common, they often include claims that: Fluoridation is part of a Communist, Fascist or Illuminati plot to take over the world and mankind. By the way this notion is mentioned with comical effect in Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, that’s where you kooks get your conspiracy ideas from then eh, lol.


Other crazy conspiracies about Water Fluoridation include classics such as, Water Fluoridation was designed by the military industrial complex to protect the atomic weapons program from litigation in the United States, or how about this one. Fluoridation was pioneered by a German chemical company to make people submissive to those in power. Enough of this nonsense, let’s get the fact’s:

The Great Water Fluoridation Conspiracy Theory: Debunked

When have you ever heard one of them crazy fluoride conspiracy creeps state the facts about the benefits of fluoridation, scientifically proven data such as:

Water fluoridation is effective at reducing cavities in children

Studies have shown that water fluoridation can lead to a reduction of upto 64% in childhood cavities. A 2000 systematic review found that water fluoridation was statistically associated with a decreased proportion of children with cavities, the median of mean decreases was 14.6%, the range −5 to 64%, and with a decrease in decayed, missing, and filled primary teeth, the median of mean decreases was 2.25 teeth, the range 0.5–4.4 teeth, this is roughly equivalent to preventing 40% of cavities.

Fluoride also prevents cavities in adults of all ages.

There are fewer studies in adults however, and the design of water fluoridation studies in adults is inferior to that of studies of self- or clinically applied fluoride. A 2007 meta-analysis found that water fluoridation prevented an estimated 27% of cavities in adults.

A 2002 systematic review found strong evidence that water fluoridation is effective at reducing overall tooth decay in schools and communities.

Fluoridation is required in the United States, because unlike most of Europe the U.S. doesn’t have school dental care, most children do not see a dentist regularly, many American diets are very high in fats and sugars, and for a high number of U.S. children water fluoridation is the prime source of exposure to fluoride, Water fluoridation in this instance is most recommended and can reduce cavities amongst the first four years of all of America’s school children by up-to 60 percent.

Important United States Fluoridation Data from between 1974–1992 indicate that when water fluoridation is introduced into a community, there are massive decreases in the number of employees per dental firm and the number of dental firms. The data suggest that some dentists respond to this loss of income by moving to non-fluoridated areas and by retraining as specialists.

Children in the United States born between 1957–1964 who grew up in fluoridated areas have earned significantly more as adults than children who didn’t, this effect is heavily concentrated among girls from poorer families, consistent with the hypothesis that the effect is due to consumer and employer discrimination in favor of women with prettier teeth. And these are just some of the many benefit’s of Water Fluoridation.


[link to conspiracydebunked.com]



 Quoting: master skeptic 3297010


You have obviously been drinking it too long your brain is f***ed, Moron!
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Wasting your time OP, believers gonna believe. They invent things like its used in Nazi camps (not a single reference anywhere except on anti-fluoride sites and blogs) and its a way to dispose of an industrial waste product (ignoring that sodium fluoride is used as a catalyst in Al production and isn't a by-product, they need it and reuse it).

Cue lots of links to self referenceing anti-fluoride blogs.

They ignore that its use is pretty arbitary, one water supplier or city uses it, another doesn't, and there little application in outside the US, and its very easy to evade, so hardly part of any master plan. The idea its used for mind control is comical as there's no mechanism for it to do this in its metabolism - yeah its poisionous in sufficient quantities, but you'd drown yourself before you got 1/100th requried for death.

Personally I think its a conspiracy by the water filter industry... Leave them to it if they want to belive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927


Wow. You happen to be from the same country as the OP and are agreeing with him.

It doesn't take an idiot to know that you are a shill. People from the UK happen to be less than 6% of the people posting on this forum.

I realize its only a 1 in 17 chance of chance in happening but it's pretty obvious. This happens ALOT.

Obvious paid shills are obvious.
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lolatu
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Calcium fluoride is what the dentist gives you and its safe externally but even on toothpaste it says do not swallow toothpaste because fluoride is bad to ingest.

Sodium fluoride on the other hand is Aindustrial byproduct of aluminum production and is what theyre putting in your water and it is TOXIC


As seen here "
The fluoride that is purchased by municipal waterworks and added into public drinking water is not even a "pharmaceutical grade" fluoride. It is primarily discarded waste, a slurry of toxins not wanted by the phosphate fertilizer mining corporations that sell it to waterworks. From there, it is then disposed of (sometimes by unskilled workers) into our drinking water. For those who have swallowed the propaganda that fluoride is "completely safe," and is some kind of a "nutrient" that is good for us, there is news footage available of a recent fluoride spill that took place in Illinois. A Hazmat team in protective gear was called in to clean up the mess, but not before the fluoride began eating through the concrete driveway it had spilled upon.
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4th paragraph down at this link [link to rense.com]



A fluoride truck spilled its load at a water treatment plant and the fluoride actually ATE THROUGH THE CONCRETE.

So keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better but thats all your doing is lying to yourself
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So, if I give you a class of Fluoride will you drink it?

Idiot.
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you won!
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I am a chemist. I buy my chems from Alfa-Aesar, Inc.

[link to www.alfa.com]

This is from the page to purchase Sodium Fluoride, the compound found in water and toothpaste:

SODIUM FLUORIDE

GHS Hazard and Precautionary Statements
Hazard Statements : H301-H315-H319

Toxic if swallowed. Causes skin irritation. Causes serious eye irritation.

Precautionary Statements : P301+P310-P305+P351+P338-P302+P352-P321-P405-P501A

IF SWALLOWED: Immediately call a POISON CENTER or doctor/physician. IF IN EYES: Rinse cautiously with water for several minutes. Remove contact lenses, if present and easy to do. Continue rinsing. IF ON SKIN: Wash with plenty of soap and water. Specific treatment (see label). Store locked up. Dispose of contents/container in accordance with local/regional/national/international regulations.


Risk & Safety
Risk Phrases: 25-32-36/38
Toxic if swallowed. Contact with acids liberates very toxic gas. Irritating to eyes and skin.
Safety Phrases: 22-36-45
Do not breathe dust. Wear suitable protective clothing. In case of accident or if you feel unwell, seek medical advice immediately (show the label where possible).

TSCA: Yes
RTECS: WB0350000
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Wasting your time OP, believers gonna believe. They invent things like its used in Nazi camps (not a single reference anywhere except on anti-fluoride sites and blogs) and its a way to dispose of an industrial waste product (ignoring that sodium fluoride is used as a catalyst in Al production and isn't a by-product, they need it and reuse it).

Cue lots of links to self referenceing anti-fluoride blogs.

They ignore that its use is pretty arbitary, one water supplier or city uses it, another doesn't, and there little application in outside the US, and its very easy to evade, so hardly part of any master plan. The idea its used for mind control is comical as there's no mechanism for it to do this in its metabolism - yeah its poisionous in sufficient quantities, but you'd drown yourself before you got 1/100th requried for death.

Personally I think its a conspiracy by the water filter industry... Leave them to it if they want to belive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2033927


Wow. You happen to be from the same country as the OP and are agreeing with him.

It doesn't take an idiot to know that you are a shill. People from the UK happen to be less than 6% of the people posting on this forum.

I realize its only a 1 in 17 chance of chance in happening but it's pretty obvious. This happens ALOT.

Obvious paid shills are obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Nah, 'fraid I'm just an unpaid troll. See how I didn't actually support fluoridation, just picking holes in the anti-fluoride arguement, which are obvious. I note you don't bother to even challenge or refute them. Carry on believing. Its the fluoride you see, makes you suseptible to false beliefs...

(I made that last bit up. Then realised you probably wouldn't get the irony and sarcasm together at one time, so reckon I need to add this. Fluoride you see, makes you a bit dim. I'll stop now. Really its the aluminium poisioning, from all the pan, foil trays etc you cook in. True story)
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I have read that flouride heightens aluminium absorbtion and this could explain the reason that medical authorities are expecting a huge rise in dementia and alzheimers in the future. It seems that the pharma industry are just trying to ensure a continuing customer base. Business as usual!
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Wow, 20 one-star votes.

Are you trying to challenge New Jerusalem Russ Ewwwert?
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lol, you have debunked nothing. The concern is mostly about the source of the flouride and the amount you consume and whether or not it's necessary to put in the entire water supply.
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brought to you by the rockefeller foundation.
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What an outstanding and kind thing our government is doing for us, putting such a vital chemical into our water supply, mass medicating without consent, even awareness of many people. Its ok though, it will make it easier for me to accept the next bit of medicine they force upon everybody.
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what is the main component of nearly all anti depressant mind altering drugs? you guessed it ---FLUORIDE sheeple FLUORIDE
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Edgar Cayce was once asked about fluoridated water and he said that whether or not it is detrimental depends on what else is in the water with the fluoride. The following is from one of his readings in 1943:

"3. (Q) Regarding the universal approach: Is it true, as it is thought, that the intake of certain form and percentage of fluorine in drinking water causes mottled enamel of the teeth?
(A) This, to be sure, is true; but this is also untrue unless there is considered the other properties with which such is associated in drinking water.

If there are certain percents of fluorine with free limestone, we will find it is beneficial. If there are certain percents with indications of magnesium, sulphur and the like, we will have one motley, another decaying at the gum.

4. (Q) Does too much fluorine cause decay of teeth, and where is the borderline?
(A) Read what has just been indicated. It depends upon the combinations, more than it does upon the quantity of fluorine itself. But, to be sure, too much fluorine in the water would not make so much in the teeth as it would in other elements or activities which may be reflected in teeth; not as the cause of same but producing a disturbance that may contribute to the condition.

But where there is iron or sulphur or magnesium, be careful.

To perfectly understand it would be preferable to understand these:

There are areas within the United States - such as in some portions of Texas, portions in Arizona, others in Wyoming - where the teeth are seldom ever decayed. Study the water there, the quantity of fluorine there, the lack of iron or sulphur or the proportions of sulphur; that is in the regular water.

There are many sections, of course, where fluorine added to the water, with many other chemicals would be most beneficial. There are others where, even a small quantity added would be very detrimental.

Hence it cannot be said positively that this or that quantity should be added save in a certain degree of other chemicals being combined with same in the drinking water.

But there are some places where you have few or none. For, here we will find a great quantity of either iron or sulphur, while in some places in the West - as in the central portion of Texas in certain vicinities, you won't find any decay. Certain cases in the North Western portion of Arizona, or close within some parts of Cheyenne, Wyoming, will not be found to show decay - if the water that is used is from the normal source of supply. But where there have been contributions from other supplies of water, there will be found variations in the supply of magnesium and other chemicals as from the flowing over, or arsenic and such - these cause destruction to the teeth."
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Its rat poison you Moron....On you teeth its good, not supposed to drink it.
 Quoting: smokahontas


sodium fluoride is not even good on teeth bro, causes fluorosis , there is some evidence a very miniscule amount of calcium fluoride is good for teeth, but that is some shady evidence at best

sodium fluoride is a class 4 level(highest level) deadly toxin
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You are correct years ago, they discovered that people in New Mexico had fewer cavities and they attributed it to the naturally occurring calcium fluoride.

I used to live in New Mexico where there is a lot of fluorite found naturally in the water and in excess can make you ill or kill you. Many military bases will give bottled water to families with small children because of the excess of fluoride found in ground water. For some unknown reason, an elementary school in Los Lunas, New Mexico decided it was necessary to supplement the water with concentrated sodium fluoride and caused acute fluoride poisoning in the children.

Acute fluoride poisoning in a New Mexico elementary school

The controversy surrounding fluoridation of municipal water supply systems has generally focused on such long-term adverse health effects as cancer, mongolism, and skeletal fluorosis. (1-4) Acute fluoride intoxication resulting from the accidental occurrence of very high fluoride concentrations in drinking water has rarely been reported.

[link to www.fluoridealert.org]
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I've seen 4 or 5 of these "debunked" threads that are complete bullshit. Someone's trying to turn seekers away.
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anyone who believes that flouride in water is there to enslve humanity is a fucking moron.
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Fluoride alters body terrain so cancer can flourish.
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I have one question for you OP.....Do you think the Nazis cared about the condition of the J.e.w.s teeth in the concentration camps?
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Now that is a good question.
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I've seen 4 or 5 of these "debunked" threads that are complete bullshit. Someone's trying to turn seekers away.
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anyone who believes that flouride in water is there to enslve humanity is a fucking moron.
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Fluoride is there to kill off a large percentage of the unwashed masses.


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I have one question for you OP.....Do you think the Nazis cared about the condition of the J.e.w.s teeth in the concentration camps?
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And do you you think they fed it to the rats as a tasty treat?
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The Nazi's only cared about the jewish people teeth, that is why they bathed them in Fluoride
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anyone who believes that flouride in water is there to enslve humanity is a fucking moron.

It seems to have worked on some of the posters here!
Don't forget that dental "authorities" also claim that mercury fillings are "harmless" too. Whislt you are at it
read about how dental x-rays cause cancer. But NOOOOO they wouldn't harm us just to make some money would they?
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I've seen 4 or 5 of these "debunked" threads that are complete bullshit. Someone's trying to turn seekers away.
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anyone who believes that flouride in water is there to enslve humanity is a fucking moron.
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Fluoride is there to kill off a large percentage of the unwashed masses.
 Quoting: dollop of tennessee 1300042


not working very well though.
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Slow poison is still poison.
Do you think that doctors actually put two and two together?
Do you think doctors give a stuff about their dead patients?
Apart from ensuring that someone pays the medical bills!
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Great post OP!! You drove all the mentally ill posters here nuts!!

Those idiots were drawn to this thread like flies.
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We're blessed to have a government care about our teeth, usually they make us pay for something like this.
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The Nazi's only cared about the jewish people teeth, that is why they bathed them in Fluoride
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Just because the NAZI's used it in their FEMA camps, doesn't mean USA can't use it everywhere. We're all alittle Jewish.
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Thread: IMPORTANT! - Fluoride Linked to #1 Cause of Death in New Research
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