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SHARIA LAW IS ENDORSE BY JESUS IN BIBLE TOO (bible SAY WOMEN SHOULD DIE dueternomy 22;22)

 
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SHARIA LAW IS ENDORSE BY JESUS IN BIBLE TOO (bible SAY WOMEN SHOULD DIE dueternomy 22;22)
The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
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We clearly see that adultery causes death from the Verses above. Let us see what Jesus peace be upon him said about adultery:

The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Matthew 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." Wouldn't this cause the man to be put to death?

Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her." Again, wouldn't he then be put to death since he would have committed adultery?

Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery." Same question I ask about the women who are considered have committed adultery. Wouldn't they be put to death also?

Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

My question here is: Would an adulterer in the New Testament be put to death?

Keep in mind that when Jesus gave the above laws, he gave them during the time when he spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law:

Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws: "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)" It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)" We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.
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What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

1
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
4
and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6
They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8
Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10
Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11
"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
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So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. John 8:7
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anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. (Leviticus 24:16)

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death?the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:27)
While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them testify that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death." (1 Kings 21:10)

The Bible even calls for the stoning of animals!

"If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. (Exodus 21:28)

So as one can see, the Bible is filled with verses that call for stoning, hence my question to Christians such as David wood is, from what basis do you attack Islamic law on stoning? It certainly isn't a Biblical basis! Rather it seems Christians like David Wood are arguing from a LIBERAL foundation
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anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. (Leviticus 24:16)

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death?the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:27)
While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them testify that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death." (1 Kings 21:10)

The Bible even calls for the stoning of animals!

"If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. (Exodus 21:28)

So as one can see, the Bible is filled with verses that call for stoning, hence my question to Christians such as David wood is, from what basis do you attack Islamic law on stoning? It certainly isn't a Biblical basis! Rather it seems Christians like David Wood are arguing from a LIBERAL foundation
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So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. John 8:7
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STONING WOMEN---- WHERE IS WOMENS RIGHT GROUP-- OMG
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Sex-Based Inheritance Rules, Islamic Law, and the Old Testament


As I noted on the thread about the will calling for distribution “according to Islamic Laws and Sharia,” traditional Islamic law appears to call for sons to get double the share that daughters get. I should note, though, that Islamic law is in this respect better for women than is Old Testament law.

Numbers 27:8-11 provides,

Say to the Israelites, “If a man dies and leaves no son, give his inheritance to his daughter. If he has no daughter, give his inheritance to his brothers. If he has no brothers, give his inheritance to his father’s brothers. If his father had no brothers, give his inheritance to the nearest relative in his clan, that he may possess it. This is to have the force of law for the Israelites, as the LORD commanded Moses.”

This has been read as providing that daughters do not inherit at all if there are any living sons (though apparently they are entitled to some support from the estate, and to payment of wedding expenses). As best I can tell, some Orthodox jewish people continue to endorse this rule.

Now, as I mentioned in my original post, I think (1) a person should be free to leave his property as he sees fit (subject to the duties to provide for a widow or widower, or for minor children while they are minors), whether he does for religious reasons or not, and (2) courts should generally not enforce provisions that call for the courts to apply religious law, at least in the many situations where the law may well be controversial given different modern religious views (e.g., “distribute my property according to Islamic Laws and Sharia [or Jewish Law]” would not be allowed, though “give my two sons 1/3 each and my two daughters 1/6 each [or give my son everything and my daughters nothing]” would be allowed). I don’t want to rehash these matters here. Also, I think (3) the better rule — the more morally sound rule, and more socially beneficial rule — is for people to treat their sons and daughters equally in such matters (though, as item 1 suggests, I certainly don’t think this should be a legally binding rule).

But here I just want to note that the Koran passages, as traditionally understood, are actually better for daughters than the Old Testament passages, as traditionally understood. To the extent that women are treated better today with regard to inheritance in many Christian and Jewish circles than in many Muslim circles, I think this stems not from the underlying scripture, but from the way that modern Christian and Jewish culture has generally evolved. That may be obvious to many readers, but in my experience many people claim that Islam is inherently worse in various ways than, say, Christianity or Judaism, because the Koran is inherently worse in various ways than the New Testament or the Old Testament or the combination of the two; I’m skeptical about such claims, and I’d be especially skeptical of such an explanation here.
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What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

1
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
4
and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6
They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8
Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10
Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11
"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
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stoning women was taught by bible too
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I've never understood how billions of people over many generations world-wide have actually taken any of the political-religious written-oral propaganda literally and so seriously to this day, even willing to cause suffering, pain & conflict over it? Long live agnostics, who are peaceful. We really are controlled by non-terrestial intelligences after all then. The advantage we have over highly academic wisdom non-terrestrial intelligences/beings is our ability to think outside of the box in a childish genius way using all our emotions to flourish and expand. Highly advanced beings with all their knowledge, science & wisdom may take life very seriously, insisting on order & control believing everyone else ought to be the same as them. That hive or new world order mentalility control stifles growth & ideas. As a species we cannot stay controlled & status quo, balancing our lives to other peoples version of what they think is perfect. Life itself is effervescently growing, fractalling out & regenerating new endless possibilities for each invidual life-form. A species strikes near-perfection when it allows not only order & control, but full diversity & autonomy too.
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Yes but Yeshua annulled the Judgements .

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

He came to fulfill the Law and this was one way he did .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
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Uh uhh.

It is also stated biblically that to think it is do have done it. Who herein can say they have never lusted in their hearts for anothr????

Didn't think so, case closed, we would all have to die for the law and Jesus freed us from that by His unmerited grace of which He abundantly shared upon us.

Get over it, we have the savior of mankind, all of mankind, accept it, there is no better deal out there and for the life of me I cannot figure out why it is so hard for you to accept this.
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I've never understood how billions of people over many generations world-wide have actually taken any of the political-religious written-oral propaganda literally and so seriously to this day, even willing to cause suffering, pain & conflict over it? Long live agnostics, who are peaceful. We really are controlled by non-terrestial intelligences after all then. The advantage we have over highly academic wisdom non-terrestrial intelligences/beings is our ability to think outside of the box in a childish genius way using all our emotions to flourish and expand. Highly advanced beings with all their knowledge, science & wisdom may take life very seriously, insisting on order & control believing everyone else ought to be the same as them. That hive or new world order mentalility control stifles growth & ideas. As a species we cannot stay controlled & status quo, balancing our lives to other peoples version of what they think is perfect. Life itself is effervescently growing, fractalling out & regenerating new endless possibilities for each invidual life-form. A species strikes near-perfection when it allows not only order & control, but full diversity & autonomy too.
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agree JUST INJUSTLY TARGETING ISLAM AND MUSLIM---- SOME OF THE DICTATORS IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE REALLY CORRUPTED
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You'r not a Christian, stop trying to preach.

The period for Israel to execute people for breaking God's law. Neither Israel or Christians execute anyone for sinning against God's law. Unlike backwards fascist Islam.


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Yes but Yeshua annulled the Judgements .

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

He came to fulfill the Law and this was one way he did .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
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INDEED-- MUSLIMS BELIEVES IN THAT WORD 100%
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Uh uhh.

It is also stated biblically that to think it is do have done it. Who herein can say they have never lusted in their hearts for anothr????

Didn't think so, case closed, we would all have to die for the law and Jesus freed us from that by His unmerited grace of which He abundantly shared upon us.

Get over it, we have the savior of mankind, all of mankind, accept it, there is no better deal out there and for the life of me I cannot figure out why it is so hard for you to accept this.
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Lust in context of ADULTERY. God gave us a sex drive and it is not sin.

You can live without sin. We have all sinned but do not have to keep sinning. Jesus also tells us the 10C laws are not grievous.

Jesus is the savior of all who accept him. Such as many at the time of the flood rejected God and are lost.

The liberal attitude that nothing matters is the cause of world suffering today.
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Yes but Yeshua annulled the Judgements .

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

He came to fulfill the Law and this was one way he did .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
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INDEED-- MUSLIMS BELIEVES IN THAT WORD 100%
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The law that was fulfilled was the mosaic sacrificial system - the lamb symbolized the coming Messiah. God's 10C law remains forever.

Muslims do not live by the first four of God's law. Most of the world lives by the last six.

God's law

1 No other gods

2 no idols

3 do not vanely use God's name

4 remember God's 7th-day Sabbath

God created in six days and rested the 7th-day. He is the God of the 7th-day Sabbath. It is right in the 10 commandments. Read the 10C and the 4th commandment tells who wrote the 10C - the Creator who rested the 7th-day.

Exodus

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Creator of heaven & earth rests the 7th day to observe creation week--hallowed.
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Yes but Yeshua annulled the Judgements .

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

He came to fulfill the Law and this was one way he did .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
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INDEED-- MUSLIMS BELIEVES IN THAT WORD 100%
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The law that was fulfilled was the mosaic sacrificial system - the lamb symbolized the coming Messiah. God's 10C law remains forever.

Muslims do not live by the first four of God's law. Most of the world lives by the last six.

God's law

1 No other gods

2 no idols

3 do not vanely use God's name

4 remember God's 7th-day Sabbath

God created in six days and rested the 7th-day. He is the God of the 7th-day Sabbath. It is right in the 10 commandments. Read the 10C and the 4th commandment tells who wrote the 10C - the Creator who rested the 7th-day.

Exodus

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Creator of heaven & earth rests the 7th day to observe creation week--hallowed.
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yes current days of weeks are "named after greek gods" ---- christians have holyday on "sun-day"--- same as they worshiping moving of sun on 25 th december---pagan cultures in all festivals
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In regards to moses the Quran says Allah told moses to smite the stone where as in the Torah he got in deep doo doo for it, explain that.
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Yes but Yeshua annulled the Judgements .

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. John 8:7

He came to fulfill the Law and this was one way he did .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14527994


INDEED-- MUSLIMS BELIEVES IN THAT WORD 100%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 770867


The law that was fulfilled was the mosaic sacrificial system - the lamb symbolized the coming Messiah. God's 10C law remains forever.

Muslims do not live by the first four of God's law. Most of the world lives by the last six.

God's law

1 No other gods

2 no idols

3 do not vanely use God's name

4 remember God's 7th-day Sabbath

God created in six days and rested the 7th-day. He is the God of the 7th-day Sabbath. It is right in the 10 commandments. Read the 10C and the 4th commandment tells who wrote the 10C - the Creator who rested the 7th-day.

Exodus

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Creator of heaven & earth rests the 7th day to observe creation week--hallowed.
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yes current days of weeks are "named after greek gods" ---- christians have holyday on "sun-day"--- same as they worshiping moving of sun on 25 th december---pagan cultures in all festivals
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What Rome did to the calender is of no effect ont he seven day weekly cycle. And Sunday is Christian error. God's Sabbath is the 7th-day or Saturday. Millions of Christians keep the correct 7th day.
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INDEED-- MUSLIMS BELIEVES IN THAT WORD 100%
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The law that was fulfilled was the mosaic sacrificial system - the lamb symbolized the coming Messiah. God's 10C law remains forever.

Muslims do not live by the first four of God's law. Most of the world lives by the last six.

God's law

1 No other gods

2 no idols

3 do not vanely use God's name

4 remember God's 7th-day Sabbath

God created in six days and rested the 7th-day. He is the God of the 7th-day Sabbath. It is right in the 10 commandments. Read the 10C and the 4th commandment tells who wrote the 10C - the Creator who rested the 7th-day.

Exodus

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Creator of heaven & earth rests the 7th day to observe creation week--hallowed.
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yes current days of weeks are "named after greek gods" ---- christians have holyday on "sun-day"--- same as they worshiping moving of sun on 25 th december---pagan cultures in all festivals
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What Rome did to the calender is of no effect ont he seven day weekly cycle. And Sunday is Christian error. God's Sabbath is the 7th-day or Saturday. Millions of Christians keep the correct 7th day.
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muslims believes that those who will follow message of jesus and worship his LORD AS ONLY GOD will bbe saved---- we all are cousins
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What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

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But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
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At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
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The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
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and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
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In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
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They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
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Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
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At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
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Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
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"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
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stoning to death---
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The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
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So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. John 8:7
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STONING WOMEN---- WHERE IS WOMENS RIGHT GROUP-- OMG
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Oh stop! He knew them all, their hearts, knowing full well even the youngest of the elders knew he was not without sin.
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So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. John 8:7
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STONING WOMEN---- WHERE IS WOMENS RIGHT GROUP-- OMG
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Oh stop! He knew them all, their hearts, knowing full well even the youngest of the elders knew he was not without sin.
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haha--- hypocrisy
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anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. (Leviticus 24:16)

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death?the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:27)
While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them testify that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death." (1 Kings 21:10)

The Bible even calls for the stoning of animals!

"If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. (Exodus 21:28)

So as one can see, the Bible is filled with verses that call for stoning, hence my question to Christians such as David wood is, from what basis do you attack Islamic law on stoning? It certainly isn't a Biblical basis! Rather it seems Christians like David Wood are arguing from a LIBERAL foundation

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biblical laws are more harsh then sharia
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no, women should not be made to die.

what a wste that wood be.

no, instead they should just be made to willingly suck it and take anal whenver a man wants it.

that should suffice.
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Clearly OP your stuck in the old testament. Thats why Jesus came. Good try tho. Actually read the bible, and you might understand
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where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty

we are set free from the law of sin and death

we have full assurance of faith to boldly approach the throne of grace :)

love rb
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Clearly OP your stuck in the old testament. Thats why Jesus came. Good try tho. Actually read the bible, and you might understand
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so you saying folks who following old testament are more 'fundamentalist:
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. John 8:7
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STONING WOMEN---- WHERE IS WOMENS RIGHT GROUP-- OMG
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Oh stop! He knew them all, their hearts, knowing full well even the youngest of the elders knew he was not without sin.
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haha--- hypocrisy
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How so? Please for everyone.

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