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Full Length 2001 FOX TV Special Exposes Apollo Moon Hoax

 
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Full Length 2001 FOX TV Special Exposes Apollo Moon Hoax
Must see documentary -- Did We Land On The Moon?

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Of course we didn't. Some moontards will never get it that an apollo man never set foot on the moon no matter how much evidence is shown to refute the claim, man did.
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My favorite fake Apollo moon landing story:

'Moon rock' given to Holland by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin is fake

A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 has turned out to be a fake.

Curators at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum, where the rock has attracted tens of thousands of visitors each year, discovered that the "lunar rock", valued at £308,000, was in fact petrified wood.

Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation, said the museum would continue to keep the stone as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Petrified wood! lmao
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This one always cracks me up:

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Ya have to ask yourself, one giant leap for mankind.

Ok, we can see someone jumped off the ladder to the landing pad strut, but how the freak did they get back up that ladder. Really, look at it and think about that shit.

We see a moonut jump three or more feet off the last rung of the ladder to the moon dusty surface. At the bottom of that ladder is a leg with a large pad, so the moonaut would have to jump off and out so not to get tripped up on that landing pad.

How the hell did a moonaut get back up that ladder if its three to four feet above the surface. We know white men can't jump and shit but thats rediculous.

Somebodies pulling somebodies leg there.
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I posted wrong one, this one I mean:

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236,000 miles and back in 1969

haven't been beyond 400 miles for over thirty years.

cruise
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Another great moon hoax documentary with NASA footage of the Apollo 11 astronots faking film footage:

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon

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Another great one:

Dark Mission 1 - NASA Moon Hoax - Analysis of the Lunar Photography

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Oh yeah, almost forgot about my favorite, Capricorn One, starring OJ Simpson!

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Houston we have a problem.

[link to history.nasa.gov]
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petrified wood

cruise
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Did any Russians ever say the moon landings were a hoax?
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What a load of crap. We went there, just because you are not smart enough to get there, doesn't mean others aren't either. What a joke you nah sayers are. If we did not go, then you tell me what those Saturn 5 rockets were for???? Can you? Hell now you can't, because you are too stupid to believe man could ever make it to the moon.
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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What a load of crap. We went there, just because you are not smart enough to get there, doesn't mean others aren't either. What a joke you nah sayers are. If we did not go, then you tell me what those Saturn 5 rockets were for???? Can you? Hell now you can't, because you are too stupid to believe man could ever make it to the moon.
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek

Gullible people typically get very angry when their most cherished beliefs -- and thus their entire worldview -- is challenged.

Instead of responding with rational statements and counter-arguments, they lash out with vitriol and insults, because they're not strong enough to handle the truth and incapable of accepting the fact that they've been massively lied to.
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236,000 miles and back in 1969

haven't been beyond 400 miles for over thirty years.

cruise
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Van Allen belts!
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236,000 miles and back in 1969

haven't been beyond 400 miles for over thirty years.

cruise
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Van Allen belts!
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Good guess.

Unless you are adding the ISS to your list of "must be a hoax."
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A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969
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That's a bold faced lie right there. Apollo 11 astronauts NEVER gave ANY moon rocks to the Dutch prime minister during their trip in October 1969. The Netherlands received two goodwill moon rocks, including one from Apollo 11, the other from Apollo 17, and both are accounted for. Neither were held at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum. Both are located at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden. Here's a picture of the real Apollo 11 rock given to the Netherlands and kept in Leiden:
[link to www.collectspace.com]

The petrified wood bullshit they had there was given to former prime minister Willem Drees in October 1968 by ambassador J. William Middendorf, who claimed he was told by someone at the state department that it was a moon rock, though he couldn't even remember who told him that. The first goodwill rocks to be distributed from Apollo 11 were not even ordered to be prepared until November 1969, a month after the petrified wood had been given by a US ambassador, not NASA, and certainly not the Apollo 11 astronauts. NASA's not the one who's lying, conspiracy theorists are.

By the way, your entire "documentary" has long since been debunked:
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It is kind of nice to know the Fox show is a perennial.

It's got all the bad old stuff in it. I think there's even a "no stars" claim!

On the other hand, it does make it easier for lazy hoax believers to do a Gish Gallop.

Maybe we need a new term for this....a Gish Pony Ride?
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236,000 miles and back in 1969

haven't been beyond 400 miles for over thirty years.

cruise
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Van Allen belts!
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Good guess.

Unless you are adding the ISS to your list of "must be a hoax."
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You don't even know that the ISS orbit is only a few hundred miles high?
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A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969
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That's a bold faced lie right there. Apollo 11 astronauts NEVER gave ANY moon rocks to the Dutch prime minister during their trip in October 1969. The Netherlands received two goodwill moon rocks, including one from Apollo 11, the other from Apollo 17, and both are accounted for. Neither were held at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum.
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You know, I think I'll go with the London Telegraph, the Rijksmuseum curators and the tens of thousands of annual visitors who've seen it instead of you.
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What a load of crap. We went there, just because you are not smart enough to get there, doesn't mean others aren't either. What a joke you nah sayers are. If we did not go, then you tell me what those Saturn 5 rockets were for???? Can you? Hell now you can't, because you are too stupid to believe man could ever make it to the moon.
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek

Gullible people typically get very angry when their most cherished beliefs -- and thus their entire worldview -- is challenged.

Instead of responding with rational statements and counter-arguments, they lash out with vitriol and insults, because they're not strong enough to handle the truth and incapable of accepting the fact that they've been massively lied to.
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whats funny this time is the hoax claimers do just that.

what about the lunar orbiters that can drop into low orbit and photograph the actual landing sites, showing footprints, rover tracks and equipment left behind.

they did that about six weeks ago last time and will do it again in the future,..all to support a 40 year old hoax?

the chinese, japanese, australians and russians all support this half century old american

hoax?

who can't handle the truth? moon hoax claimerss226
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BTW, anyone ever find those 13,000 "missing" original NASA Apollo tapes?
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A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969
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That's a bold faced lie right there. Apollo 11 astronauts NEVER gave ANY moon rocks to the Dutch prime minister during their trip in October 1969. The Netherlands received two goodwill moon rocks, including one from Apollo 11, the other from Apollo 17, and both are accounted for. Neither were held at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum.
 Quoting: Astromut

You know, I think I'll go with the London Telegraph, the Rijksmuseum curators and the tens of thousands of annual visitors who've seen it instead of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand? The petrified wood given by ambassador J. William Middendorf shown at Rijksmuseum is meaningless. No goodwill rocks were even being given to ANY countries yet, let alone the Netherlands. It wasn't until a month later that they even started preparing to give out goodwill rocks. The petrified wood was never claimed by NASA to be a moon rock, I don't care who saw it, that's utterly irrelevant, a fact you fail to understand.

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What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand?
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The part where the moon rock that was given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and exhibited at the Rijksmuseum turned out to be petrified wood! 1rof1
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What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand?
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The part where the moon rock that was given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and exhibited at the Rijksmuseum turned out to be petrified wood! 1rof1
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You are a liar. The petrified wood was given by ambassador J. William Middendorf, not the Apollo 11 astronauts, not even NASA. I already told you this, but you have chosen to continue perpetuating the lie instead. You yourself said you trust the Telegraph over me, fine, the Telegraph shows that you're a liar:
"The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.

J. William Middendorf, the former American ambassador to the Netherlands, made the presentation to Mr Drees and the rock was then donated to the Rijksmuseum after his death in 1988."
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It was given to Drees by Middendorf, not the Apollo astronauts. The latter had nothing to do with it.
"Mr Middendorf told how the rock came from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Even the plaque that was below it specifically said it came from Middendorf!!! And for what it's worth, it didn't even specifically mention it being a moon rock, but that's secondary to the fact that the damn thing didn't come from NASA but rather an ambassador and it preceded NASA ever releasing any moon rocks as goodwill gifts, and the goodwill gift moon rocks to the Netherlands are both known and accounted for, and this is not it.
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What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand?
 Quoting: Astromut

The part where the moon rock that was given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and exhibited at the Rijksmuseum turned out to be petrified wood! 1rof1
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You are a liar.
 Quoting: Astromut

Oh really? All I did was post an exact quote from the London Telegraph. I'll repeat it for your benefit:


'Moon rock' given to Holland by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin is fake

A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 has turned out to be a fake.

Curators at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum, where the rock has attracted tens of thousands of visitors each year, discovered that the "lunar rock", valued at £308,000, was in fact petrified wood.
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What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand?
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The part where the moon rock that was given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and exhibited at the Rijksmuseum turned out to be petrified wood! 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


You are a liar. The petrified wood was given by ambassador J. William Middendorf, not the Apollo 11 astronauts, not even NASA. I already told you this, but you have chosen to continue perpetuating the lie instead. You yourself said you trust the Telegraph over me, fine, the Telegraph shows that you're a liar:
"The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.

J. William Middendorf, the former American ambassador to the Netherlands, made the presentation to Mr Drees and the rock was then donated to the Rijksmuseum after his death in 1988."
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It was given to Drees by Middendorf, not the Apollo astronauts. The latter had nothing to do with it.
"Mr Middendorf told how the rock came from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Even the plaque that was below it specifically said it came from Middendorf!!! And for what it's worth, it didn't even specifically mention it being a moon rock, but that's secondary to the fact that the damn thing didn't come from NASA but rather an ambassador and it preceded NASA ever releasing any moon rocks as goodwill gifts, and the goodwill gift moon rocks to the Netherlands are both known and accounted for, and this is not it.
 Quoting: Astromut

bump
You are a liar OP, you know the headline is false but you perpetuate the lie. Stop ignoring the rest of my post.
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The Netherlands received two goodwill moon rocks, including one from Apollo 11, the other from Apollo 17, and both are accounted for. Neither were held at Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum.
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Now who's the liar?
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What part of the Apollo 11 moon rock given to the Netherlands is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden did you not understand?
 Quoting: Astromut

The part where the moon rock that was given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and exhibited at the Rijksmuseum turned out to be petrified wood! 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


You are a liar. The petrified wood was given by ambassador J. William Middendorf, not the Apollo 11 astronauts, not even NASA. I already told you this, but you have chosen to continue perpetuating the lie instead. You yourself said you trust the Telegraph over me, fine, the Telegraph shows that you're a liar:
"The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago.

J. William Middendorf, the former American ambassador to the Netherlands, made the presentation to Mr Drees and the rock was then donated to the Rijksmuseum after his death in 1988."
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It was given to Drees by Middendorf, not the Apollo astronauts. The latter had nothing to do with it.
"Mr Middendorf told how the rock came from the U.S. State Department, but couldn't recall the exact details."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Even the plaque that was below it specifically said it came from Middendorf!!! And for what it's worth, it didn't even specifically mention it being a moon rock, but that's secondary to the fact that the damn thing didn't come from NASA but rather an ambassador and it preceded NASA ever releasing any moon rocks as goodwill gifts, and the goodwill gift moon rocks to the Netherlands are both known and accounted for, and this is not it.
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