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APOLLO MOON HOAX: Why Does Gus Grissom's Family Believe He Was Murdered?

 
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Was Gus Grissom preparing to blow the whistle on the Apollo moon hoax? Why did he hang a lemon on an Apollo simulator shortly before he died?

Apollo Astronaut Was Murdered, Son Charges
Christopher Ruddy
February 11, 1999

Virgil I. "Gus” Grissom, the astronaut slated to be the first man to walk on the moon, was murdered, his son has charged in the Feb. 16 edition of Star magazine.

In another stunning development, a lead NASA investigator has charged that the agency engaged in a cover-up of the true cause of the catastrophe that killed Grissom and two other astronauts.

The tabloid exclusive by Steve Herz reports that Scott Grissom, 48, has gone public with the family’s long-held belief that their father was purposefully killed during Apollo I.

The Jan. 27, 1967, Apollo I mission was a simulated launch in preparation for an actual lunar flight.

NASA concluded that the Apollo I deaths of Grissom, as well as astronauts Edward H. White and Roger Chafee, were the result of an explosive fire that burst from the pure oxygen atmosphere of the space capsule. NASA investigators could not identify what caused the spark, but wrote the catastrophe off as an accident.

"My father’s death was no accident. He was murdered,” Grissom, a commercial pilot, told Star.

Grissom said he recently was granted access to the charred capsule and discovered a "fabricated” metal plate located behind a control panel switch. The switch controlled the capsules’ electrical power source from an outside source to the ship’s batteries. Grissom argues that the placement of the metal plate was an act of sabotage. When one of the astronauts toggled the switch to transfer power to the ship’s batteries, a spark was created that ignited a fireball.

Clark Mac Donald, a McDonnell-Douglas engineer hired by NASA to investigate the fire, offered corroborating evidence. Breaking more than three decades of silence, Mac Donald says he determined that an electrical short caused by the changeover to battery power had sparked the fire.

He says that NASA destroyed his report and interview tapes in an effort to stem public criticism of the space program.

"I have agonized for 31 years about revealing the truth, but I didn’t want to hurt NASA’s image or cause trouble,” Mac Donald told the paper. "But I can’t let one more day go by without the truth being known.”

Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

[link to archive.newsmax.com]
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yur answer and explanation is right here in the first post in this thread
Thread: Many still doubt the moon landings but some still think we went-heres a good ole classic movie to show how it was done/faked-capricorn one
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Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement.



Suckers!
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Ah yes, one of my favorite films, starring OJ Simpson!
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The story I heard was Gus Grissom was pissed off because he knew about our "other" space program. You know, the military starships the kid in the UK accidentally discovered; I think his name is MacKinnon? The Feds have been trying to extradite him for years now.
Anyway, Gus was pissed because NASA was using technology which they knew was antique by the standards of the "other" space program (which was and still is hidden from the public.)
I heard he called it a "Model T".
I have no idea if he and the other astronauts were killed on purpose, but they were burned alive and suffered a horrible death.
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Ah yes, one of my favorite films, starring OJ Simpson!
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To be more specific, Scott Grissom believes this. The rest of the family does not and this has caused a certain amount of friction.
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To be more specific, Scott Grissom believes this. The rest of the family does not and this has caused a certain amount of friction.
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From the article:

"Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”
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In 1978 my neighbor said he had the first photo of the capsule right after it opened as he was one of the guys that opened it. He showed me the photo. It was awful. At the base of the first seat - below the seat - was a metal bus bar. On that bus bar was a crescent wrench. It was that crescent wrench that shorted the bus bar and caused the fire. My neighbor said he never said anything about it because they were all warned not to say a word.
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My neighbor said he never said anything about it because they were all warned not to say a word.
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I'll bet -- unless you wanted to end up like Grissom.
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To be more specific, Scott Grissom believes this. The rest of the family does not and this has caused a certain amount of friction.
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From the article:

"Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

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Yes, early on. I was talking about how the family presents their views today.

This has nothing to do with the probability or veracity of Scott's claims, however. There are many possible motivations for why any other person might agree or disagree with him.
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To be more specific, Scott Grissom believes this. The rest of the family does not and this has caused a certain amount of friction.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

From the article:

"Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

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Yes, early on. I was talking about how the family presents their views today.
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I don't believe for a second that Gus Grissom's family's views (particularly his wife and son) have varied one iota from what they initially believed after the fabricated metal plate was initially discovered.

I believe this is simply another one of your dishonest attempts at spin control and disinformation. Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
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To be more specific, Scott Grissom believes this. The rest of the family does not and this has caused a certain amount of friction.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

From the article:

"Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

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Yes, early on. I was talking about how the family presents their views today.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

I don't believe for a second that Gus Grissom's family's views (particularly his wife and son) have varied one iota from what they initially believed after the fabricated metal plate was initially discovered.

I believe this is simply another one of your dishonest attempts at spin control and disinformation. Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


So they wanted to silence Gus and did it by killing 3 astronauts in a VERY public way that caused an investigation that almost got the entire program shut down? And this makes sense to you? Really? They couldn't have tampered with his brakes or his test planes that he regularly flew?
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From the article:

"Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


Yes, early on. I was talking about how the family presents their views today.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

I don't believe for a second that Gus Grissom's family's views (particularly his wife and son) have varied one iota from what they initially believed after the fabricated metal plate was initially discovered.

I believe this is simply another one of your dishonest attempts at spin control and disinformation. Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


So they wanted to silence Gus and did it by killing 3 astronauts in a VERY public way that caused an investigation that almost got the entire program shut down? And this makes sense to you? Really? They couldn't have tampered with his brakes or his test planes that he regularly flew?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14143765


It's called "sending a message". OPSEC would be secure from thereon in.

damned
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We killed 2 innocent astronauts (White and Chaffee) just to off Grissom!

See how far we're prepared to go, boys?

Keey yer fuckin mouths SHUT!

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Yes, early on. I was talking about how the family presents their views today.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

I don't believe for a second that Gus Grissom's family's views (particularly his wife and son) have varied one iota from what they initially believed after the fabricated metal plate was initially discovered.

I believe this is simply another one of your dishonest attempts at spin control and disinformation. Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


So they wanted to silence Gus and did it by killing 3 astronauts in a VERY public way that caused an investigation that almost got the entire program shut down? And this makes sense to you? Really? They couldn't have tampered with his brakes or his test planes that he regularly flew?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14143765


It's called "sending a message". OPSEC would be secure from thereon in.

damned
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They could have "sent a message" in a way that didn't endanger the whole program. What don't you get about that?
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Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
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And another hoaxie who suffers from Compulsive Liar Syndrome.

WTF is wrong with you people?
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why do lunar images provided by nasa have smudges on them?
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I don't believe for a second that Gus Grissom's family's views (particularly his wife and son) have varied one iota from what they initially believed after the fabricated metal plate was initially discovered.

I believe this is simply another one of your dishonest attempts at spin control and disinformation. Not unlike your totally fallacious claim that there were backup copies of those 13,000 "lost" (erased) original Apollo videotapes.

You sir, are completely devoid of honesty and integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6730757


So they wanted to silence Gus and did it by killing 3 astronauts in a VERY public way that caused an investigation that almost got the entire program shut down? And this makes sense to you? Really? They couldn't have tampered with his brakes or his test planes that he regularly flew?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14143765


It's called "sending a message". OPSEC would be secure from thereon in.

damned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14587638


They could have "sent a message" in a way that didn't endanger the whole program. What don't you get about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14143765


you are a fucking idiot, they had to kill 3 or 4 astronauts at the same time.
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why do lunar images provided by nasa have smudges on them?
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Care to point to an example?
There are a lot of pictures of the lunar surface.

The pictures made on film and physically carried back to Earth (made by Apollo) shouldn't have any, at best some minor flaws in the emulsion.
All the other pictures were/are transmitted by radio which always has the possibility of data drop-outs.
Less and less so thanks to digital technology.


you are a fucking idiot, they had to kill 3 or 4 astronauts at the same time.
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Assertion not supported by any evidence.

Alleged motive is irrelevant if you can't show there actually was a crime.
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If anyone still checks this, my name is Matthew Birdsong. My mother is Madeline Grissom, Gus' great niece. And yes, the family does believe Circulation was murdered
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If anyone still checks this, my name is Matthew Birdsong. My mother is Madeline Grissom, Gus' great niece. And yes, the family does believe Circulation was murdered
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Thanks for checking in.

Of course your family sill believes that Gus Grissom was murdered, contrary to the claims of NASA shills and pathological liars Nomuse and Halcyon Dayz.
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Revealations to come, IMO, will be Apollo, JFK, 911 in that order. Being that Apollo wasn't inherently evil, it will ease the way for the others.
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Revealations to come, IMO, will be Apollo, JFK, 911 in that order. Being that Apollo wasn't inherently evil, it will ease the way for the others.
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I think JFK will be first, especially after notorious CIA agent E. Howard Hunt's son is claiming that his father confessed on his death bed that the CIA and other elements within the US government murdered JFK.

BTW, E. Howard Hunt was identified as being one of the "3 tramps" who were photographed on the grassy knoll and Hunt's son says he distinctly remembers his father being "away on business" in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated.
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Was Gus Grissom preparing to blow the whistle on the Apollo moon hoax? Why did he hang a lemon on an Apollo simulator shortly before he died?

Apollo Astronaut Was Murdered, Son Charges
Christopher Ruddy
February 11, 1999

Virgil I. "Gus” Grissom, the astronaut slated to be the first man to walk on the moon, was murdered, his son has charged in the Feb. 16 edition of Star magazine.

In another stunning development, a lead NASA investigator has charged that the agency engaged in a cover-up of the true cause of the catastrophe that killed Grissom and two other astronauts.

The tabloid exclusive by Steve Herz reports that Scott Grissom, 48, has gone public with the family’s long-held belief that their father was purposefully killed during Apollo I.

The Jan. 27, 1967, Apollo I mission was a simulated launch in preparation for an actual lunar flight.

NASA concluded that the Apollo I deaths of Grissom, as well as astronauts Edward H. White and Roger Chafee, were the result of an explosive fire that burst from the pure oxygen atmosphere of the space capsule. NASA investigators could not identify what caused the spark, but wrote the catastrophe off as an accident.

"My father’s death was no accident. He was murdered,” Grissom, a commercial pilot, told Star.

Grissom said he recently was granted access to the charred capsule and discovered a "fabricated” metal plate located behind a control panel switch. The switch controlled the capsules’ electrical power source from an outside source to the ship’s batteries. Grissom argues that the placement of the metal plate was an act of sabotage. When one of the astronauts toggled the switch to transfer power to the ship’s batteries, a spark was created that ignited a fireball.

Clark Mac Donald, a McDonnell-Douglas engineer hired by NASA to investigate the fire, offered corroborating evidence. Breaking more than three decades of silence, Mac Donald says he determined that an electrical short caused by the changeover to battery power had sparked the fire.

He says that NASA destroyed his report and interview tapes in an effort to stem public criticism of the space program.

"I have agonized for 31 years about revealing the truth, but I didn’t want to hurt NASA’s image or cause trouble,” Mac Donald told the paper. "But I can’t let one more day go by without the truth being known.”

Grissom’s widow, Betty, now 71, told Star she agrees with her son’s claim that her husband had been murdered.

"I believe Scott has found the key piece of evidence to prove NASA knew all along what really happened but covered up to protect funding for the race to the moon.”

[link to archive.newsmax.com]
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Further proof that the American taxpayers have been robbed.

If China has a problem collecting debts they need to take it up with the criminals who committed the robbery. If they try to take parks and land from the American people that just results in us being robbed twice, while the criminals get off scott free.
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that article was from 1999, I wonder do the son and wife still hold the same views? have they spoken to media lately
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There were 4 astronauts in there that day

not 3

they always have a secret astronaut hidden in the ship
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There were 4 astronauts in there that day

not 3

they always have a secret astronaut hidden in the ship
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Yet more paranoid crap.

Some people have too much time on their hands, and none of it reading actual history.
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"I have agonized for 31 years about revealing the truth, but I didn’t want to hurt NASA’s image or cause trouble,” Astronut told the paper. "But I can’t let one more day go by without the truth being known.” - ASTRONUT MEA CULPA 2014

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