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Greetings fellow survialists!

This is still a bit early days yet but i wanted to start this thread because i am interested to know how many people on here are on a similiar wavelength as me.

Well anyway moving on, for a while now, iíve been thinking VERY seriously about starting a community of like minded individuals to leave modern society behind and live in the Australian countryside (not the desert outback though). This is because quite frankly i am sick and tired of being constantly poisoned by the elite that rule the world, they poison our food, our water, our air, our minds and our hearts, so frankly, i want to leave.

My beliefs are that our modern society, with all its technology and science, is not a healthy environment to live in, (or to raise children in for that matter) not just physically but mentally and spiritually also, and that while we live in this modern society we are without knowing it slaves to this society, and quite simply, i want freedom, true freedom, to live how i wish to live, to bring up and educate my children how i think they should be brought up and educated without indoctrination, without having to answer to or seek permision from anyone.

This community would primarily be founded on the idea of living in the way that god intended for us to live. Out in nature, without technology, without science, working by the sweat of your brow, growing and eating our own pesticide and additive free, un-GMO food and building our own houses

But also, i was thinking that this community in a lesser capacity, could be about survival, just in case a SHTF scenario did occur, after all there are many interesting and plausible theories about how the world will end such as, a giant solar flare wiping out all electronics, asteroids hitting us, nibiru coming in too close an orbit near us, a government planned alien invasion, various global depopulation plans.... and not to mention the NWO!!!

I am a big believer in being better safe than sorry, and think that it would be good idea to build a community for those of us who are in the know, to survive.

I originally wanted to do this on my own, and live basically a hermit sort of lifestyle, as i did not have any friends who were interested in living off the grid. BUT ALAS!! i donít think it would be possible to undertake this sort of project on my own, even if i wanted to. I think that humans, not unlike wolves are pack animals and need each other, even if itís just for company, which is where you, the enlightened people of GLP come in!

I decided to make this thread in the hope of finding some similar like minded people, who are interested in this, and would potentially (if it all works out) be willing to help me set up and join this community, so if you are interested or have any tips or advice please post either on the thread or if you prefer message me personally.

Thanks,

nob at night

PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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there are thousands to choose from already in existence .
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there are thousands to choose from already in existence .
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like where?? any in australia?? sure there are probably a load in america and what not but i reckon if the SHTF that Australia is your best bet
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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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So if you aint gonna have fun, why not just stay put with the NWO deadshits?
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there are thousands to choose from already in existence .
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like where?? any in australia?? sure there are probably a load in america and what not but i reckon if the SHTF that Australia is your best bet
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Start doing searches for

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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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So if you aint gonna have fun, why not just stay put with the NWO deadshits?
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no shit.. the ops idea of paradise is my idea of hell.. i couldn't live in such an environment unless we had all modern facilities alot of help and workers doing their shifts and heaps of pussy drugs and great times.. your a fucking downer op.. why dont you just join one of them weird christian cults out there somewhere cause you are not the type i would like to be in a community with.. ;)
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there are thousands to choose from already in existence .
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like where?? any in australia?? sure there are probably a load in america and what not but i reckon if the SHTF that Australia is your best bet
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NSW and QLD have heaps.


multiple occupancies is nsw how councils classify them.

from barring tops to the qld border is thick with them, more so as you move away from the coast.

shares start fairly cheap. most are unnamed.

Pillar Valley, Wytallaba, Om Shalom, Tuntable Falls are a few of them that spring to mind.

these are also open, meaning you can buy and sell your share , you cannot start new ones like that anymore.
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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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So if you aint gonna have fun, why not just stay put with the NWO deadshits?
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LOL!!! well it wouldn't be all work no play! On the contrary!! Thats one of the reasons i want some people to join, the more people we have, the more the work can be distibuted, so that everyone only has a little bit of work to do, then there is more chill out/fun time
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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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So if you aint gonna have fun, why not just stay put with the NWO deadshits?
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LOL!!! well it wouldn't be all work no play! On the contrary!! Thats one of the reasons i want some people to join, the more people we have, the more the work can be distibuted, so that everyone only has a little bit of work to do, then there is more chill out/fun time
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sounds like you want to control the community op.

you need a principality and slaves for that, or move to america and start a cult.

either way you will need heaps of cash.
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if you're serious about this... you're looking in the wrong place.
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if you're serious about this... you're looking in the wrong place.
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I did try another conspiracy forum on the net first but the thread broke one of their many rules....i thought here might be a good start, afterall it does have a survival forum....Any suggestions?
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I don't know it goes down in the Land Down Under.

Here in the USA during the 60's and 70's 'off the grid' communities called communes were opened up across the states. They became targeted by police harassing and even Federal harassment. DEA raids were one such attack, when the DEA was a young baby department, it teethed on communes.

Then the states started up their Child Protective Services and started poking their noses into these groups, then The city/counties started passing all of these laws to make the community be on sewage, city water and have electricity.

Through the years things have gotten worse. Every Survival group and every member of those groups are tracked and duly noted by FBI, CIA, local police and most likely Homeland Security.

Even individual families who dare to go off grid are pulled back in with laws insisting they have electrical hook up, sending out the CPS to check on homeschooling.

Zoning laws changed, farms that were used as communes now have strict zoning laws about how many people (a family) can live there.

Going off grid is hard, going off grid as a group is going to make you a target.
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[link to www.communities.org.au]

[link to directory.ic.org]

[link to directory.ic.org]

[link to www.gondwanasanctuary.org]

[link to www.theecovillage.com.au]

[link to crystalwaters.org.au]

[link to www.kookaburra.eco-village.com.au]
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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
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Greetings fellow survialists!

This is still a bit early days yet but i wanted to start this thread because i am interested to know how many people on here are on a similiar wavelength as me.

Well anyway moving on, for a while now, iíve been thinking VERY seriously about starting a community of like minded individuals to leave modern society behind and live in the Australian countryside (not the desert outback though). This is because quite frankly i am sick and tired of being constantly poisoned by the elite that rule the world, they poison our food, our water, our air, our minds and our hearts, so frankly, i want to leave.

My beliefs are that our modern society, with all its technology and science, is not a healthy environment to live in, (or to raise children in for that matter) not just physically but mentally and spiritually also, and that while we live in this modern society we are without knowing it slaves to this society, and quite simply, i want freedom, true freedom, to live how i wish to live, to bring up and educate my children how i think they should be brought up and educated without indoctrination, without having to answer to or seek permision from anyone.

This community would primarily be founded on the idea of living in the way that god intended for us to live. Out in nature, without technology, without science, working by the sweat of your brow, growing and eating our own pesticide and additive free, un-GMO food and building our own houses

But also, i was thinking that this community in a lesser capacity, could be about survival, just in case a SHTF scenario did occur, after all there are many interesting and plausible theories about how the world will end such as, a giant solar flare wiping out all electronics, asteroids hitting us, nibiru coming in too close an orbit near us, a government planned alien invasion, various global depopulation plans.... and not to mention the NWO!!!

I am a big believer in being better safe than sorry, and think that it would be good idea to build a community for those of us who are in the know, to survive.

I originally wanted to do this on my own, and live basically a hermit sort of lifestyle, as i did not have any friends who were interested in living off the grid. BUT ALAS!! i donít think it would be possible to undertake this sort of project on my own, even if i wanted to. I think that humans, not unlike wolves are pack animals and need each other, even if itís just for company, which is where you, the enlightened people of GLP come in!

I decided to make this thread in the hope of finding some similar like minded people, who are interested in this, and would potentially (if it all works out) be willing to help me set up and join this community, so if you are interested or have any tips or advice please post either on the thread or if you prefer message me personally.

Thanks,

nob at night

PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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It is though to be fair come on be honest ... its an elaborate plan to get yourself lashings and lashings of hippie vagina
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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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So if you aint gonna have fun, why not just stay put with the NWO deadshits?
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no shit.. the ops idea of paradise is my idea of hell.. i couldn't live in such an environment unless we had all modern facilities alot of help and workers doing their shifts and heaps of pussy drugs and great times.. your a fucking downer op.. why dont you just join one of them weird christian cults out there somewhere cause you are not the type i would like to be in a community with.. ;)
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Then remain uninterested, or are you one of those that listen to a station that you then go around telling your friends that you hate the station you listen to all the time?
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Thanks for the links
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Seems like the Amish beat you to it. Why not just join them.
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Seems like the Amish beat you to it. Why not just join them.
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lol, i thought about it, although on the whole i dont think they accept outsiders. Nevertheless, i wouldn't anyway, they're christian and have way too many strict rules and dress codes.

Strict rules really aren't my thing.
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what is??
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PS: donít get the wrong idea and think this is some hippie camp for smoking pot and having orgies, that is absolutely not the point at all
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You had me until you wrote that last part. If I can't bang a hippie chick now and then fergetaboutit!
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this sounds like a Jim Jones situation to me-- perhaps with you in charge running around dictating rules and executing anyone that wants to leave-- pal, you are looking in the wrong place, but again you might be Big Brother agent, who knows
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this sounds like a Jim Jones situation to me-- perhaps with you in charge running around dictating rules and executing anyone that wants to leave-- pal, you are looking in the wrong place, but again you might be Big Brother agent, who knows
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WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT!??? Did you read my post?? Where did i ever talk about wanting to be some dictator who rules his kingdom with an iron fist and hands out the death penalty willy nilly!??

next time get your facts straight, pal

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Why live off of the grid? We all already live in communities. I have nothing to hide, so my intention is to teach as many people around me to be self sufficient so that the buffer zone between me and the city leaches is less permeable. You can live on the grid while learning ways to not be on it.

I am up for moving to an area where people seem to understand we need to get back to basics before we are forced back to basics. I have learned to live better without TV for one. I have learned to grow my own food. I have learned little things like turning the water off while soaping up in the shower and I really don't need to have my instant hot water heater fire up to wash my hands. Most of meals cost about $1.00 for things that add flavor that I don't choose to produce for now.

We have a unique opportunity to learn survivalist techniques before we have to. I also have a strong belief that others that have failed expected too much. You cannot stifle free will, regardless. You cannot start a community for a "party", a religious stronghold or a militia.

The mindset should be to learn to live each day the best you can with what you have and teach others to do the same. If it gets to the point where you are defending what you have, you will surly die trying. If it gets to that I would rather not be here any ways. Whats the point?

If you were over here, I would be more than happy to help you. I for one think that Australia is not going to be the place to be in the near future. I hope I am wrong, I'm just another earth shifttard.
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Why live off of the grid? We all already live in communities. I have nothing to hide, so my intention is to teach as many people around me to be self sufficient so that the buffer zone between me and the city leaches is less permeable. You can live on the grid while learning ways to not be on it.

I am up for moving to an area where people seem to understand we need to get back to basics before we are forced back to basics. I have learned to live better without TV for one. I have learned to grow my own food. I have learned little things like turning the water off while soaping up in the shower and I really don't need to have my instant hot water heater fire up to wash my hands. Most of meals cost about $1.00 for things that add flavor that I don't choose to produce for now.

We have a unique opportunity to learn survivalist techniques before we have to. I also have a strong belief that others that have failed expected too much. You cannot stifle free will, regardless. You cannot start a community for a "party", a religious stronghold or a militia.

The mindset should be to learn to live each day the best you can with what you have and teach others to do the same. If it gets to the point where you are defending what you have, you will surly die trying. If it gets to that I would rather not be here any ways. Whats the point?

If you were over here, I would be more than happy to help you. I for one think that Australia is not going to be the place to be in the near future. I hope I am wrong, I'm just another earth shifttard.
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Well yeah doing little things like around the house is good, especially if your into the "save the environment from global warming" stuff, i wish more people did.

However, you can only go so far off the grid while still being on the grid, for example, trying to run your household electricity using only solar panels, there have been many horror stories about people who did just that and ended getting into these messy lawsuits with they're old power companies etc....just seems to much hassle to me, and even if you dont have that sort of trouble, your still breathing in all the city pollution and drinking flouridated water and all that.... seems to me, you might as well just go the whole hog and go completely off the grid, its cheaper and easier in the long run.

LOL America safe in a SHTF scenario!? HA! don't think so! America is a major world power, which ever one of the the various SHTF scenarios that happen, it doesn't matter, North America is going to be a major target. Whereas Australia, is a nice, small, out of the way place and not really a big threat to anyone, in all the huffle and buffle we'll be forgoten about, and therefore, safe.
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Why live off of the grid? We all already live in communities. I have nothing to hide, so my intention is to teach as many people around me to be self sufficient so that the buffer zone between me and the city leaches is less permeable. You can live on the grid while learning ways to not be on it.

I am up for moving to an area where people seem to understand we need to get back to basics before we are forced back to basics. I have learned to live better without TV for one. I have learned to grow my own food. I have learned little things like turning the water off while soaping up in the shower and I really don't need to have my instant hot water heater fire up to wash my hands. Most of meals cost about $1.00 for things that add flavor that I don't choose to produce for now.

We have a unique opportunity to learn survivalist techniques before we have to. I also have a strong belief that others that have failed expected too much. You cannot stifle free will, regardless. You cannot start a community for a "party", a religious stronghold or a militia.

The mindset should be to learn to live each day the best you can with what you have and teach others to do the same. If it gets to the point where you are defending what you have, you will surly die trying. If it gets to that I would rather not be here any ways. Whats the point?

If you were over here, I would be more than happy to help you. I for one think that Australia is not going to be the place to be in the near future. I hope I am wrong, I'm just another earth shifttard.
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Well yeah doing little things like around the house is good, especially if your into the "save the environment from global warming" stuff, i wish more people did.

However, you can only go so far off the grid while still being on the grid, for example, trying to run your household electricity using only solar panels, there have been many horror stories about people who did just that and ended getting into these messy lawsuits with they're old power companies etc....just seems to much hassle to me, and even if you dont have that sort of trouble, your still breathing in all the city pollution and drinking flouridated water and all that.... seems to me, you might as well just go the whole hog and go completely off the grid, its cheaper and easier in the long run.

LOL America safe in a SHTF scenario!? HA! don't think so! America is a major world power, which ever one of the the various SHTF scenarios that happen, it doesn't matter, North America is going to be a major target. Whereas Australia, is a nice, small, out of the way place and not really a big threat to anyone, in all the huffle and buffle we'll be forgoten about, and therefore, safe.
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I am not talking about little things. I have lived comfortably the last three years earning less than 5000/year and enjoying nature. All the while learning to live like people did a couple of hundred years ago.

Things I have learned: Find and dig a well, grow and sustain a garden and livestock without chemicals or anything else I can't provide from my own land, maintain forestation for wood supply. I have found ways to do everything without petroleum products. This is the big facade of solar panels, modern windmills, electric cars etc. Forget about those things. When the supply runs dry, you better plan on being where you want to be or be a wandering starving nomad. Even if it doesn't happen in my lifetime, I am already teaching my seven year olds these things.

Australia is awesome! I went there for 6 weeks about ten years ago. I commend Australia for finding a decent balance between socialism and capitalism. There is also much to lean from the aboriginals that haven't been tainted by modern society and taught to be leaches. If the shift is just governmental or spiritual, then wish me luck. I am going to need it and you are correct. If it is a physical earth shift, quite frankly I want to be on higher ground.
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i totally agree with u OP, ive been thinking along these lines for a while now too, and yes ur right, all this technology stuff is really getting out of hand, i really do worry that all these robots are getting too smart for their own good.
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Why live off of the grid? We all already live in communities. I have nothing to hide, so my intention is to teach as many people around me to be self sufficient so that the buffer zone between me and the city leaches is less permeable. You can live on the grid while learning ways to not be on it.

I am up for moving to an area where people seem to understand we need to get back to basics before we are forced back to basics. I have learned to live better without TV for one. I have learned to grow my own food. I have learned little things like turning the water off while soaping up in the shower and I really don't need to have my instant hot water heater fire up to wash my hands. Most of meals cost about $1.00 for things that add flavor that I don't choose to produce for now.

We have a unique opportunity to learn survivalist techniques before we have to. I also have a strong belief that others that have failed expected too much. You cannot stifle free will, regardless. You cannot start a community for a "party", a religious stronghold or a militia.

The mindset should be to learn to live each day the best you can with what you have and teach others to do the same. If it gets to the point where you are defending what you have, you will surly die trying. If it gets to that I would rather not be here any ways. Whats the point?

If you were over here, I would be more than happy to help you. I for one think that Australia is not going to be the place to be in the near future. I hope I am wrong, I'm just another earth shifttard.
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Well yeah doing little things like around the house is good, especially if your into the "save the environment from global warming" stuff, i wish more people did.

However, you can only go so far off the grid while still being on the grid, for example, trying to run your household electricity using only solar panels, there have been many horror stories about people who did just that and ended getting into these messy lawsuits with they're old power companies etc....just seems to much hassle to me, and even if you dont have that sort of trouble, your still breathing in all the city pollution and drinking flouridated water and all that.... seems to me, you might as well just go the whole hog and go completely off the grid, its cheaper and easier in the long run.

LOL America safe in a SHTF scenario!? HA! don't think so! America is a major world power, which ever one of the the various SHTF scenarios that happen, it doesn't matter, North America is going to be a major target. Whereas Australia, is a nice, small, out of the way place and not really a big threat to anyone, in all the huffle and buffle we'll be forgoten about, and therefore, safe.
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well my Aussie friend what you say about Australia is true
but what you dont realise is that Australia is popular
fallback location for TPTB after TSHTF Australia may be safe from the worst of whats coming only to fall into
a slavery to TPTB.
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Think i may start one, WE SHALL NAME OURSELVES THE RUBBER HELMET GANG.
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Why live off of the grid? We all already live in communities. I have nothing to hide, so my intention is to teach as many people around me to be self sufficient so that the buffer zone between me and the city leaches is less permeable. You can live on the grid while learning ways to not be on it.

I am up for moving to an area where people seem to understand we need to get back to basics before we are forced back to basics. I have learned to live better without TV for one. I have learned to grow my own food. I have learned little things like turning the water off while soaping up in the shower and I really don't need to have my instant hot water heater fire up to wash my hands. Most of meals cost about $1.00 for things that add flavor that I don't choose to produce for now.

We have a unique opportunity to learn survivalist techniques before we have to. I also have a strong belief that others that have failed expected too much. You cannot stifle free will, regardless. You cannot start a community for a "party", a religious stronghold or a militia.

The mindset should be to learn to live each day the best you can with what you have and teach others to do the same. If it gets to the point where you are defending what you have, you will surly die trying. If it gets to that I would rather not be here any ways. Whats the point?

If you were over here, I would be more than happy to help you. I for one think that Australia is not going to be the place to be in the near future. I hope I am wrong, I'm just another earth shifttard.
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Well yeah doing little things like around the house is good, especially if your into the "save the environment from global warming" stuff, i wish more people did.

However, you can only go so far off the grid while still being on the grid, for example, trying to run your household electricity using only solar panels, there have been many horror stories about people who did just that and ended getting into these messy lawsuits with they're old power companies etc....just seems to much hassle to me, and even if you dont have that sort of trouble, your still breathing in all the city pollution and drinking flouridated water and all that.... seems to me, you might as well just go the whole hog and go completely off the grid, its cheaper and easier in the long run.

LOL America safe in a SHTF scenario!? HA! don't think so! America is a major world power, which ever one of the the various SHTF scenarios that happen, it doesn't matter, North America is going to be a major target. Whereas Australia, is a nice, small, out of the way place and not really a big threat to anyone, in all the huffle and buffle we'll be forgoten about, and therefore, safe.
 Quoting: Nob at Night


well my Aussie friend what you say about Australia is true
but what you dont realise is that Australia is popular
fallback location for TPTB after TSHTF Australia may be safe from the worst of whats coming only to fall into
a slavery to TPTB.
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sorry im a bit of a noob, what does TPTB stand for? thanks
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TPTB

The Powers That Be.

Which goes back to my earlier post where I said basically that the powers that be won't let you go off grid without a serious fight.
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