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Low Carb diets always make you gain weight in the long run. Here is why.

 
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
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I am a runner. I love carbs. hf
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Well, be glad you don't have lp(A)... Remember Jim Fixx?

If you have lp(A), you can suffer heart attack even if you run all the time. Best way to keep lp(A) from making it worse is by cutting carbs.

Ironic, huh?

Read Wheat Belly, Heart Scan Blog, Track Your Plaque, etc.
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We all gonna die sooner or later.

In the meantime, I got a hot body, I can eat whatever I want, and I feel great. I can also out run the cops, if needed.tomato
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Good for you.

I need to get back to running. It has been a while since I ran half marathon...
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
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Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
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Qatar, the richest nation on earth, is also the fattest with half of all adults obese and 17 per cent of the population suffering from diabetes.

By comparison America, which is often assumed to be the fattest, looks positively slim with a third of adults obese and eight per cent diabetic.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: mathetes


AND LOOK WHAT THEY ARE EATING!!!!

French Fries 60% of calories from fat. 40% from Carbs.

Burger/chicken Sansich. 100% of calories from protein/fat.


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i am anti low carb too, but for slightly different reasons.

people are fat because their metabolisms have decided to be slow, not because they eat carbs--or fats for that matter.

could a bear stop himself from gaining weight in fall?

have you ever noticed it isn't easy to control weight? it IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE and takes constant effort to be a different weight than the weight your body WANTS TO BE. Ask an underweight person!

people are overweight (and underweight) because they are UNWELL.

i have tried low calorie, low fat, ultra-low carb. i've been a vegetarian and also a vegan. I have rejected all these special diets over time. there is a reason that we have been handed the "balanced meal" from our ancestors. traditional meals with carb, fat, protein, veg works best for most people.

yes, there are reasons for some people to be low carb. ultra-low carb can be life-saving for those with type 1 diabetes--it keeps them off the blood sugar roller coaster and helps them live longer, healthier. there are other disease states in which ketosis is useful, don't get me wrong.

but for most people, they need to get HEALTHY to get their bodies to decide to be a healthier weight.

this means solving (amongst others) inflammation problems (chronic infections, say, including teeth), nutrient deficiencies, sleep problems including apnea, toxic liver from a lifetime of drinking and pain relievers and pharmaceuticals, busted gut from antibiotic usage, chronic lack of vitamin D, couch potato syndrome, wrong sex hormones, lack of iodide, gluten intolerance...some may need to take control of their own thyroid meds and get on natural thyroid--basically the whole gamut of natural health.

and that is why loosing/gaining weight is such a complex issue.
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277


Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
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No need to product studies.

FACT. JAPAN=HIGH CARB SOCIETY=THIN
FACT. America= LOW CARB SOCIETY=FAT

That is something we can all agree on.

America is fat. Japan is thin.

Follow Japanese Diet. Become thin like Japanese.
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277


Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


No need to product studies.

FACT. JAPAN=HIGH CARB SOCIETY=THIN
FACT. America= LOW CARB SOCIETY=FAT

That is something we can all agree on.

America is fat. Japan is thin.

Follow Japanese Diet. Become thin like Japanese.
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Then you're full of shit.

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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Easy to explain.

They eat HEALTHY carbs. We eat UNHEALTHY carbs. You need to look specifically at what is being eaten and how much is being eaten.

The Japanese don't sit on a couch chowing down Doritos, french fries, donuts, etc. BUT WE DO.

Case closed.
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i am anti low carb too, but for slightly different reasons.

people are fat because their metabolisms have decided to be slow, not because they eat carbs--or fats for that matter.

could a bear stop himself from gaining weight in fall?

have you ever noticed it isn't easy to control weight? it IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE and takes constant effort to be a different weight than the weight your body WANTS TO BE. Ask an underweight person!

people are overweight (and underweight) because they are UNWELL.

i have tried low calorie, low fat, ultra-low carb. i've been a vegetarian and also a vegan. I have rejected all these special diets over time. there is a reason that we have been handed the "balanced meal" from our ancestors. traditional meals with carb, fat, protein, veg works best for most people.

yes, there are reasons for some people to be low carb. ultra-low carb can be life-saving for those with type 1 diabetes--it keeps them off the blood sugar roller coaster and helps them live longer, healthier. there are other disease states in which ketosis is useful, don't get me wrong.

but for most people, they need to get HEALTHY to get their bodies to decide to be a healthier weight.

this means solving (amongst others) inflammation problems (chronic infections, say, including teeth), nutrient deficiencies, sleep problems including apnea, toxic liver from a lifetime of drinking and pain relievers and pharmaceuticals, busted gut from antibiotic usage, chronic lack of vitamin D, couch potato syndrome, wrong sex hormones, lack of iodide, gluten intolerance...some may need to take control of their own thyroid meds and get on natural thyroid--basically the whole gamut of natural health.

and that is why loosing/gaining weight is such a complex issue.
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This is something we can all agree on.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
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If you are at 8 percent bodyfat then why do you care?

everyone that has to battle the bulge (me included) has to find their own way. Its not for everyone but it is the only way that works for me. Bye
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Here's a British study that sez just reducing carbs is good without full blown Atkins....

[link to healthland.time.com]

I been doing this over 25 years....I eat 2 meals of carbs a week....I went from 260lbs to 169 and maintained it cuz I changed the way I eat mentally....in another word its not a diet but a lifestyle change....

as a totally unexpected benefit, my seasonal allergies disappeared .....
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Easy to explain.

They eat HEALTHY carbs. We eat UNHEALTHY carbs. You need to look specifically at what is being eaten and how much is being eaten.

The Japanese don't sit on a couch chowing down Doritos, french fries, donuts, etc. BUT WE DO.

Case closed.
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Exactly.

And what makes all those carbs you mentioned unhealthy? They were fried and get over 60% of their calories from FAT.
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
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Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Produce studies? Just look around. People that don't eat healthy suffer mentally.

Balanced health comes from wise food choices and willingness to exercise. Simple stuff. Most people just make it complicated.
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[link to rawfoodsos.com]

You lose. Idiot.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
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If you are at 8 percent bodyfat then why do you care?

everyone that has to battle the bulge (me included) has to find their own way. Its not for everyone but it is the only way that works for me. Bye
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I do very much care. That is why I am so passionate about it.

I see people around me eating a birthday cake thinking the sugar in it is why they are gaining weight.

NEWS FLASH. 2 cups of pure fat(vegetable oil) went in to making that cake.

Then you eat french fries. FAT. Baked potatoes are good for you until you cover them with cheese and sour cream(added fat).
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[link to rawfoodsos.com]

You lose. Idiot.
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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For those looking for an alternative perspective - supported by mountains of clinical evidence, please see this great GLP thread:

Thread: If you want to be thin and stay thin (and avoid Metabolic Syndrome), then you have to eat high fat

(If you want to be thin and stay thin (and avoid Metabolic Syndrome), then you have to eat high fat)
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Carbs don't make you fat or Japan would be the fattest industrialized nation on the planet.

BECAUSE THEY EAT THE MOST CARBS.
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YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

RICE AS A GRAIN IS A PRETTY NEUTRAL TYPE OF CARB, THE THING WHICH MAKES YOU FAT IS LEPTINS FROM GRAINS WE SEE IN PROCESSED BREAD AND CEREALS ETC

YOU CANT ARGUE THAT BECAUSE JAPAN EATS RICE AND IS COMPARATIVELY THIN COMPARED TOW FAT WESTERN COUNTRIES, THAT ALL CARBS ARE GOOD.

YOU. CANT. DO. THAT. OK?

YOU ARE A FUCKWIT!!!!!!
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277


Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Produce studies? Just look around. People that don't eat healthy suffer mentally.

Balanced health comes from wise food choices and willingness to exercise. Simple stuff. Most people just make it complicated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277


Again, produce studies to prove your claims.

You say low carbs. It could mean anything. Everybody has their own idea on what low carbs really means. It is totally useless anyway. I prefer hard numbers. I've been reading studies over low carbs, saturated fat, cholesterol, etc forever. Again, just saying "low carbs" means nothing.

If you want to "cure" diabetes type 2 assuming it's not too late, hit low carbs. However what is exactly low carbs diet? That is where everybody get confused. It could be anything.

When I recommend a low carb diet, I am much more specific over what it consist of. Here is one example - [link to wholehealthsource.blogspot.com]
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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[link to rawfoodsos.com]

You lose. Idiot.
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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Read it, idiot.
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But what about the Asian Paradox? How can Asian countries consume so much white rice and so many noodles and remain so thin? If carbs make you fat, how do they eat so many of them? This is a question I get from Mark’s Daily Apple readers all of the time, so it’s about time I gave a thorough response.

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]

read it you absolute fucking stooge
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


If you are at 8 percent bodyfat then why do you care?

everyone that has to battle the bulge (me included) has to find their own way. Its not for everyone but it is the only way that works for me. Bye
 Quoting: Intruth


I do very much care. That is why I am so passionate about it.

I see people around me eating a birthday cake thinking the sugar in it is why they are gaining weight.

NEWS FLASH. 2 cups of pure fat(vegetable oil) went in to making that cake.

Then you eat french fries. FAT. Baked potatoes are good for you until you cover them with cheese and sour cream(added fat).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


It is really the excessive amount of sugar/carbs that makes you fat... that's how you get heart disease and diabetes... Read Wheat Belly...
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


If you are at 8 percent bodyfat then why do you care?

everyone that has to battle the bulge (me included) has to find their own way. Its not for everyone but it is the only way that works for me. Bye
 Quoting: Intruth


I do very much care. That is why I am so passionate about it.

I see people around me eating a birthday cake thinking the sugar in it is why they are gaining weight.

NEWS FLASH. 2 cups of pure fat(vegetable oil) went in to making that cake.

Then you eat french fries. FAT. Baked potatoes are good for you until you cover them with cheese and sour cream(added fat).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


It is really the excessive amount of sugar/carbs that makes you fat... that's how you get heart disease and diabetes... Read Wheat Belly...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner



I read Wheat Belly and it's a load of shit. Europeans and Americans have been eating wheat for hundreds of years. This obesity epidemic has only been around for <30 years.
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Are uou kidding me? Mexicans eat LOTS of carbs! Look at their foods....
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Oh my fucking god...

You truly are a moron.

They eat a lot of processed food... meaning a lot of processed carbohydrates.

[link to www.wheatbellydiet.com]
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Fad diets are all bad. You need lifestyle. That is a balanced diet and plenty of exercise. Eat little and often to boost your metabolism.

Simple as.
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You're all just mad that I'm thinner than you. Very angry people you are.

Calling me all sorts of names. Why are you people so unhappy?

Maybe you should eat some fucking carbs and go for a jog.
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If you are at 8 percent bodyfat then why do you care?

everyone that has to battle the bulge (me included) has to find their own way. Its not for everyone but it is the only way that works for me. Bye
 Quoting: Intruth


I do very much care. That is why I am so passionate about it.

I see people around me eating a birthday cake thinking the sugar in it is why they are gaining weight.

NEWS FLASH. 2 cups of pure fat(vegetable oil) went in to making that cake.

Then you eat french fries. FAT. Baked potatoes are good for you until you cover them with cheese and sour cream(added fat).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


It is really the excessive amount of sugar/carbs that makes you fat... that's how you get heart disease and diabetes... Read Wheat Belly...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner



I read Wheat Belly and it's a load of shit. Europeans and Americans have been eating wheat for hundreds of years. This obesity epidemic has only been around for <30 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


You're not very bright.... And bullshit on you reading it.

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