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Low Carb diets always make you gain weight in the long run. Here is why.

 
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Oh my fucking god...

You truly are a moron.

They eat a lot of processed food... meaning a lot of processed carbohydrates.

[link to www.wheatbellydiet.com]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


And you are a very angry person. Whats with the hate bro?
You do know that low carb diets make people depressed right.
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Don't give me that horse shit about HFCS being the cause either because I watch soccer players drink Gatorade all day and never gain a pound.

Gatorade is loaded with HFCS.


Simple. Get off of your ass and move. Eat carbs for energy so you have the energy to move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


bullshit. a lot of people have hidden food allergies, and the most common of those is wheat and corn. i quit eating wheat alone and lost 80 lbs within a year doing absolutely nothing else...no starving, i simply eliminated processed foods and wheat.

HFCS is incredibly bad for the liver. the liver cannot process any other materials until the hfcs is processed, and it slows the liver down big time. which is why it also slows metabolism.

do some fucking homework before you go spouting bullshit you know nothing about.
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Don't give me that horse shit about HFCS being the cause either because I watch soccer players drink Gatorade all day and never gain a pound.

Gatorade is loaded with HFCS.


Simple. Get off of your ass and move. Eat carbs for energy so you have the energy to move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


bullshit. a lot of people have hidden food allergies, and the most common of those is wheat and corn. i quit eating wheat alone and lost 80 lbs within a year doing absolutely nothing else...no starving, i simply eliminated processed foods and wheat.

HFCS is incredibly bad for the liver. the liver cannot process any other materials until the hfcs is processed, and it slows the liver down big time. which is why it also slows metabolism.

do some fucking homework before you go spouting bullshit you know nothing about.
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Yep I know nothing about it. Thats why you had to lose 80lbs and I never had 80lbs to lose.

You will put it all back on though. Low carbers always do.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


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NEWS FLASH. 2 cups of pure fat(vegetable oil) went in to making that cake.

Then you eat french fries. FAT. Baked potatoes are good for you until you cover them with cheese and sour cream(added fat).
 Quoting: Intruth


You do realize that vegetable oil is more foreign to our bodies than eating rocks, don't you? Vegetable oils only exist since the 50's-60's when the Fig Agra (and shills like you) started demonizing the fats humans have eaten since they appeared on this planet: animal fat.

Bottom line:
Grains, vegetable oils, legumes and refined sugar, in this order, are the culprits.
Calories don't count at all, because obesity is about over-storing and inflammation, not about overeating.
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Eat whatever the fuck you want, why spend a whole lifetime suffering about what everyone else might think.
I drink coke/jager/jack daniels/milkshakes/hot chocolate and eat 3x meals a day with crisps/chocolate/donuts/you name it (except fast food and takeaways) yet i'm still thin as a stick.

The balance comes between eating empty carbs and then getting the exercise to burn it off, luckily I live in the hills of the UK so plenty of hiking around here.
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Eat whatever the fuck you want, why spend a whole lifetime suffering about what everyone else might think.
I drink coke/jager/jack daniels/milkshakes/hot chocolate and eat 3x meals a day with crisps/chocolate/donuts/you name it (except fast food and takeaways) yet i'm still thin as a stick.

The balance comes between eating empty carbs and then getting the exercise to burn it off, luckily I live in the hills of the UK so plenty of hiking around here.
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You're one lucky bastard with an abnormal metabolism who cannot store all this modern crap, and must burn it off (because you cannot store), and that's all. You've never been fat, and it's not because of your moral fucking superiority, it's because your metabolism is different, but you'll die just the same because eating that crap will eventually kill you one way or another.
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
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So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
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Mexican food ( my weakness)is loaded with carbs. white flower turns into sugar in the gut. If Im low carbing it, I stay away from mexican food.
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Don't give me that horse shit about HFCS being the cause either because I watch soccer players drink Gatorade all day and never gain a pound.

Gatorade is loaded with HFCS.


Simple. Get off of your ass and move. Eat carbs for energy so you have the energy to move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


bullshit. a lot of people have hidden food allergies, and the most common of those is wheat and corn. i quit eating wheat alone and lost 80 lbs within a year doing absolutely nothing else...no starving, i simply eliminated processed foods and wheat.

HFCS is incredibly bad for the liver. the liver cannot process any other materials until the hfcs is processed, and it slows the liver down big time. which is why it also slows metabolism.

do some fucking homework before you go spouting bullshit you know nothing about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8565311


Yep I know nothing about it. Thats why you had to lose 80lbs and I never had 80lbs to lose.

You will put it all back on though. Low carbers always do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


WRONG. that was three years ago. i'm a size 8 and still dropping. i had to lose 80 lbs because for years i didn't identify my allergy, and no matter how much i worked out, walked, rode bikes, ate well, so long as the wheat was still a part of my diet, i just kept gaining.

if you don't even know about food allergies, that just shows the extent of your ignorance. i've been studying this shit all my life.
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ALSO READ THIS YOU DUMB CUNT

[link to www.marksdailyapple.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 830513





So what they are saying is that the Chinese perform more manual labor than Americans.


What about Mexicans then? They perform just as much heavy labor but they eat less carbs and more fat and protein.

And guess what? They are almost as fat as Americans?

Explain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


Mexican food ( my weakness)is loaded with carbs. white flower turns into sugar in the gut. If Im low carbing it, I stay away from mexican food.
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you can have sopes and tacos, made with corn. :)
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Americans eat too much. Of everything. Americans could live off of sushi and they would still eat too much, and get fat. End of story.
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Don't give me that horse shit about HFCS being the cause either because I watch soccer players drink Gatorade all day and never gain a pound.

Gatorade is loaded with HFCS.


Simple. Get off of your ass and move. Eat carbs for energy so you have the energy to move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


bullshit. a lot of people have hidden food allergies, and the most common of those is wheat and corn. i quit eating wheat alone and lost 80 lbs within a year doing absolutely nothing else...no starving, i simply eliminated processed foods and wheat.

HFCS is incredibly bad for the liver. the liver cannot process any other materials until the hfcs is processed, and it slows the liver down big time. which is why it also slows metabolism.

do some fucking homework before you go spouting bullshit you know nothing about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8565311


Yep I know nothing about it. Thats why you had to lose 80lbs and I never had 80lbs to lose.

You will put it all back on though. Low carbers always do.
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WRONG. that was three years ago. i'm a size 8 and still dropping. i had to lose 80 lbs because for years i didn't identify my allergy, and no matter how much i worked out, walked, rode bikes, ate well, so long as the wheat was still a part of my diet, i just kept gaining.

if you don't even know about food allergies, that just shows the extent of your ignorance. i've been studying this shit all my life.
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The vast Majority of people are not allergic to wheat. Humans have been eating wheat for hundreds of years without obesity epidemics. I'm glad you found your problem.

But seriously your problem is probably 1 in 10,000.

You didn't have people getting fat from wheat in the 70's 60's 50's 40's 30's 20's.

So it's probably not the reason for the epidemic.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


OP you are more stupid than you look.

Processed carbs are what is killing people. The Japanese do not consume the level of processed carbs that Americans do.

And what makes you think Atkins was actually using his own diet when he died?

Dumbass.
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i think the reasoning is that not all carbs are created equally. some carbs get converted to 'sugars' quicker than others. veggie carbs are 'slow' carbs in that they con't get converted quickly. bread, pasta, crappy food etc are fast carbs. protein, good fats (like olive oil, avacodoes etc) and veggies are what we should be eating the most of.
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It has nothing to do with the type of carbs.

Look at FACTS

JAPAN EATS 80% CARBS- They are thin.

US Eats 50% carbs= WE ARE FAT.

I've seen obese vegans because they drizzle olive oil on their salads.

Judge by RESULTS. RESULTS PROVE THAT HIGH PROTEIN DIETS GIVE YOU GOUT.

Results prove I'm right.
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bu-bu-bu-bullshit

you are a Japanese nutritionist?
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Low carb diets do work, and quite well I might add. True if you don't change eating habbits when done and continue to stuff your face with cabr laden goodies, then yes the fat will come back.

The science behind low carb is just that scientific fat. Restricting the carb intake, which your body is used to digesting and eating protein and fats, pulls a fast one on the metabolism. The digestive system when it comes to digesting the proteins and fats determines it is too much effort to perform this function for energy, so it then uses stored fat for current energy needs. The proteins and fats are then duked out.

Personally I like the diet because it is also refered to as 'the drinkers diet', I don't have to give up my prefered method of decompression.
 Quoting: dogpoet


Atkins. The low carb king. Was obese when he died.


260 pounds. OBESE. OBESE OBESE.


ANd you will too. Low carb diets are horse fucking shit.
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yes.. this lie has been debunked concerning atkins.
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What lie? He was 260 pound when he died.

Don't get me started by saying me magically gained 70 pounds of water after he died because of the bloating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706


wow

coz see

that's exactly what happened

what is your hidden agenda that you are so emotional and provoked towards lies
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Americans eat too much. Of everything. Americans could live off of sushi and they would still eat too much, and get fat. End of story.
 Quoting: fleshette


100% this

It's really gross when I see families and their little piggy kids order freaking HUMUNGUS plates, appetizers, main meals AND dessert and shovel it all down in one sitting.. and they're disgustingly overweight.

One time I went to a restaurant with my family and of of the ENTIRE establishment we were the only ones that weren't hideously overweight. It was really uncomfortable. We had to split out orders because of the sheer volume of food.

It's all about portion control. You can eat carbs, sweets, etc as long as it's in moderation (and you don't lead a totally sedentary lifestyle)
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Lol at any ignoramus that says low carb lifestyles don't work.

Paleo diet, plain and simple.

"your friend" drinks sodas and is thin, ha.

Just because one looks healthy, doesn't mean they are healthy.
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1) number one factor in being thin is not storing intake food as fat
This can be done by
2) burning it by doing exercise
3) not taking as much in
4) avoiding to eat things that can store as fat

Low-carb diet people burn fat for calories, not sugar, that's why they stay thin.

The only "problem" I have found with low-carb is that it makes you loose your hair, so you have to take zinc supplements.

That, and you need to drink a lot of water because your kidneys will be working harder.

The OP's remark about the japanese doesn't make much sense, they tend to exercise a lot, and they're genetically less prone to store fat.

Genes do play a role, the Maori, the hawaiians and all those island folk, having survived thousands of years on nothing but coconut and the occasional fish, now get fatter than ever before. The opposite is true for the Japanese.

Wanna lead a healthy life?

Start your day with a good breakfast, do some exercise, like bike to work or a 30-minute workout.
Eat a healthy luch filled with vitamins.
Have 2 fruit snacks.
Do some exercise when or after coming home.
Have a decent dinner, don't eat the same stuff everyday.

Be outside as much as possible for your lifestyle.

Keep a regular sleep pattern.
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i think the reasoning is that not all carbs are created equally. some carbs get converted to 'sugars' quicker than others. veggie carbs are 'slow' carbs in that they con't get converted quickly. bread, pasta, crappy food etc are fast carbs. protein, good fats (like olive oil, avacodoes etc) and veggies are what we should be eating the most of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11698818


It has nothing to do with the type of carbs.

Look at FACTS

JAPAN EATS 80% CARBS- They are thin.

US Eats 50% carbs= WE ARE FAT.

I've seen obese vegans because they drizzle olive oil on their salads.

Judge by RESULTS. RESULTS PROVE THAT HIGH PROTEIN DIETS GIVE YOU GOUT.

Results prove I'm right.
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I eat low carb and have stayed thin.

so ??
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The vast Majority of people are not allergic to wheat. Humans have been eating wheat for hundreds of years without obesity epidemics. I'm glad you found your problem.

But seriously your problem is probably 1 in 10,000.

You didn't have people getting fat from wheat in the 70's 60's 50's 40's 30's 20's.

So it's probably not the reason for the epidemic.
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WRONG. back then, they had no idea about this anyways. also, most other cultures hundreds of years ago were relying on & evolving through what was available in their region.

and clearly you do not keep up with health and nutrition news...a MAJORITY of people have food allergies. wheat and many other 'staples' are overconsumed, and the body builds defense mechanisms which manifest as inflammation, low immunity, etc. (weight gain)

[link to www.shokos.com]

i could post links all day, there is overwhelming research and science supporting this.

"The dangers of Wheat:
Health killer no.4 Wheat. Surprised? Todays hy-bread wheat is a far cry nutritionally from its ancient ancestor. Todays wheat is selectively bred for a high yield crop with a high wheat sugar content (gluten). The gluten in wheat forms a paste in the intestines preventing the proper absorption of nutrients. Wheat has been linked in numerous human studies to have a direct correlation on mental health including depression and anxiety.
There are plenty of ancient grains to choose from to take the place of wheat. Brown rice, wild rice, kamut, millet, oats just to name a few. A word of caution however, grain storage in America (even organic grain storage) is overseen by the government and is based on the number of bug body parts per kilo of grain if you think they use a lot of pesticide when they are growing it you should see how much they use to control the product in storage. Even organic grains are bug treated with "natural pesticides" that can kill you. Wash all of your raw grain products thoroughly. Sprouting your own grains is the best and safest source."
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Carbs are extremely important for the brain.
People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277

Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner

Produce studies? Just look around. People that don't eat healthy suffer mentally.
Balanced health comes from wise food choices and willingness to exercise. Simple stuff. Most people just make it complicated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14548277

Again, produce studies to prove your claims.
You say low carbs. It could mean anything. Everybody has their own idea on what low carbs really means. It is totally useless anyway. I prefer hard numbers. I've been reading studies over low carbs, saturated fat, cholesterol, etc forever. Again, just saying "low carbs" means nothing.
If you want to "cure" diabetes type 2 assuming it's not too late, hit low carbs. However what is exactly low carbs diet? That is where everybody get confused. It could be anything.
When I recommend a low carb diet, I am much more specific over what it consist of. Here is one example - [link to wholehealthsource.blogspot.com]
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What the fuck are you talking about? All I advocated was for balanced, healthy eating, including carbs. Exercise is the most important for good metabolism and weight management.

You sound like you are just looking to argue. I could actually give a fuck what works for anyone else, all I know is being fit and healthy is NOT rocket science.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Perhaps you suffer from wet brain as you handle indicates you are an alcoholic.

Good day.
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OP! you are sadly mistaken..... you should talk to a real nutritionist before you go off about this or that concerning fats and carbs. Firstly, Gatorade contains ONLY dextrose which is chemically pure sugar, not HFCS. Secondly, HFCS is not used in softdrink such as coke or pepsi made outside the US ( they save it mostly for us here in the US). I just traveled around SE asia for several months and I can attest that asians and indians that eat more carbs and processed sugar are fat, they can metabolize well earlier in their lives but as they reach 45-55 they pack on considerable belly fat. Their bodies are adapted to eat less protein as is, westerners on the same rice diet with low protein develop a multitude of mineral and vitamin deficiencies( meaning people of the west have adapted to eatting more protein and conversely have co-developed skeletons to carry the extra muscle mass produced.
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Why isn't the Japanese the fattest industrialized nation?


WHY?

They eat the most carbs.


Can't explain can you.
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Carbs are extremely important for the brain.

People who don't eat enough carbs suffer from depression.
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Again, produce studies to prove your claim.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


No need to product studies.

FACT. JAPAN=HIGH CARB SOCIETY=THIN
FACT. America= LOW CARB SOCIETY=FAT

That is something we can all agree on.

America is fat. Japan is thin.

Follow Japanese Diet. Become thin like Japanese.
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Japan= People with black hair
America= Multi-hair colors


Basically, this is the philosophy you're using, OP.
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I did a low carb diet 2-3 years ago, and lost 50 pounds. Although I only did the low carb diet for 1 year i still kept off the weight.. ive been a steady 150 for 2 years>.
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Furthermore, I would argue the most important organ to feed is the brain. A depletion of carbs over time will cause mental illness. LOOK around..... anti-depressant use is at an all time high.

Fad diets don't work. If the brain is not right, nothing else will be.

Don't allow youselves to become mk ultra'd on what to eat. Zombies...

Be smart. THINK.
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black haired people =thinness
multi haired people = fatness

Wonderful scientific proof! LOL
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Furthermore, I would argue the most important organ to feed is the brain. A depletion of carbs over time will cause mental illness. LOOK around..... anti-depressant use is at an all time high.

Fad diets don't work. If the brain is not right, nothing else will be.

Don't allow youselves to become mk ultra'd on what to eat. Zombies...

Be smart. THINK.
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Yes. You are correct. It's fact. Carb depletion makes people depressed and tired.


[link to www.livestrong.com]
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you could easily do without carbs but not without fat or protein
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OP! you are sadly mistaken..... you should talk to a real nutritionist before you go off about this or that concerning fats and carbs. Firstly, Gatorade contains ONLY dextrose which is chemically pure sugar, not HFCS. Secondly, HFCS is not used in softdrink such as coke or pepsi made outside the US ( they save it mostly for us here in the US). I just traveled around SE asia for several months and I can attest that asians and indians that eat more carbs and processed sugar are fat, they can metabolize well earlier in their lives but as they reach 45-55 they pack on considerable belly fat. Their bodies are adapted to eat less protein as is, westerners on the same rice diet with low protein develop a multitude of mineral and vitamin deficiencies( meaning people of the west have adapted to eatting more protein and conversely have co-developed skeletons to carry the extra muscle mass produced.
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BULL FUCKING SHIT.

My gatorade bottle says right on the fucking label.

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

[link to www.machinemuscle.com]

That sure looks like HFCS to me.
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you could easily do without carbs but not without fat or protein
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True. You need all three to be healthy. But that doesn't mean people need to eat 35% of their calories from fat.
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You know what? I'm sorry but people on this forum are fucking blind.


Atkins the low carb pusher was obese when he died.

That is a fact. He was over 260 pounds.


Why should I take advise from you people when I'm the one sitting at 8% body body fat. Bye.
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IF you're calling him obese according to the laughable BMI index you're full of horse shit.

According to that joke my ideal weight was 195 pounds.Despite the fact that when I was my lowest (220) people remarked on just how unnaturally thin and sickly looking I was.I was shooting for 'healthy',not 'concentration camp thin'.

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