Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,624 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 293,454
Pageviews Today: 384,828Threads Today: 82Posts Today: 1,265
02:41 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 47518
United States
11/20/2005 04:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Lets Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...

And lets discuss it here at this thread, many keep talking about the seth Material, lets talk about it

[link to files.noblerealms.net]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32993
United States
11/20/2005 04:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Oh goody! Free crap!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306
United States
11/20/2005 04:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Important Free Crap Even!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30752
United States
11/20/2005 05:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Wow, This is life changing, mind blowing wisdom!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1294
United States
11/20/2005 05:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
sweet, nice free crap!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 05:11 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Found this from a Quantum Physicist, very interesting!

The Hidden Domain:
Common Elements In David Bohm´s Physics, The Perennial Pholosophy and Seth

By Norman Friedman

Preface

In writing this book on the quantum wave function I have drawn from many sources, primarily physicists, mathematicians, philosophers, and Seth. Here I would like to say a few words about Seth, the discarnate entity channeled by Jane Roberts, the poet and novelist who produced more than fifteen volumes from the channeled Seth material. In researching my previous book Bridging Science and Spirit, I came across a comment by a physicist who noted some similarity between the description of a concept in quantum theory called Heisenberg´s potentia, which is described by the wave function, and a domain described by Seth. After studying this material in depth, I realized that Seth´s ideas pertaining to physics originated from an intelligence with both a knowledge of science and a clear message about the nature of reality and human experience. I have utilized this unusual source throughout—wherever the information seems helpful and appropriate.

Understanding the wave function normally requires sonic background in advanced mathematics. Since the vast majority of readers do not have such a background, I shall attempt explanations using images, metaphors, and analogies; these are solidly grounded in science to keep distortions to a minimum. Thus, this book is free from mathematical formulas except for one section, which requires some understanding of high school algebra.

In spite of my efforts to explain complex concepts in simple terms, I am aware that those without a science background may find some portions of this book (particularly Part 2) quite challenging. These portions are necessary to provide a firm scientific basis for the modeling interpretations and philosophical speculations that follow. My suggestion to readers who are having trouble is to read lightly (or skip) sections that are too difficult and continue on to those which are easier to grasp. Chapter 13, especially the summary, should be helpful. If you get the gist of what is being said—even though you may not completely follow the reasoning—you may well be rewarded with some satisfying insights into the nature of reality, ideas that are developed in Parts 3 and 4. For those wishing greater depth, the footnotes provide additional information regarding some of the scientific material.

If we are to comprehend the implications of modern physics, it is advisable to understand the problems that arose in classical physics which necessitated the development of relativity and quantum theories. To this end, the first part of the book offers a historical background on the world of Newton, followed by an overview of relativity and quantum theories. The second part of the book presents a detailed discussion of the wave function and its philosophical meaning. Part 3, Models of Reality, examines concepts both from physicists who have made contributions in this area and from Seth.

In the final part of the book, I allow myself to range freely and widely in considering how the models of reality discussed relate to disciplines outside science. It is my view, however, that the only scientific tool we have for understanding the level underlying time and space is the wave function, and it is to a nonmathematical examination of this hidden domain that the book is devoted.

Copyright 1997 by Norman Friedman. Published by The Woodbridge Group, Eugene, Oregon. All rights reserved. Copyright contents may not be reproduced in any manner without prior written permission of the publisher.



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------
The Hidden Domain:
Common Elements In David Bohm´s Physics, The Perennial Pholosophy and Seth
by Norman Friedman
Introduction

Quantum theory tells us that all matter—and any part thereof—is associated with an unusual wave, a wave designated by the mathematical formulation called the wave function. The wave function has unquestionable accuracy and usefulness; but, oddly enough, the wave it describes cannot be detected by any ordinary means—which makes it not only enigmatic, but literally not of this world. We are therefore faced with the notion that there exists an entire realm of reality that ties outside our experience of the material world yet is intimately connected to it, an idea that is well established though still only vaguely understood by physicists.

Our knowledge of the wave function forces us to leave behind the comfortable thought that our three-dimensional world is all there is and that it changes through time in comprehensible and predictable ways. Instead we must acknowledge that, considered in its most fundamental aspect, that of elementary particles, our world requires a second level consisting of potential states, described by the wave function, which are brought into three-dimensional reality by an act of observation—an idea many consider metaphysical. (At least, this is the traditional view of many physicists, consistent with the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum theory.) So, while classical theory attempted to banish the mystical and the mysterious from physics, quantum theory has reinstated such notions in the form of abstract mathematical formalisms—one being the wave function—which address a reality that often seems to contradict our normal experience.

The wave function describes the state of an electron (or any larger system) in terms of the possibilities open to it. All these possibilities coexist with a certain probability of coming into being, of entering our "real" world. Unlike some scientists, who believe the wave function is merely a mathematical formulation used for computation, I take the position that it is an accurate description of that unseen level of probabilities, a domain which I consider to be the fundamental source from which our objective world unfolds.

If we accept this idea—that the underlying level must be taken at face value as an essential ingredient in any total concept of reality—then we are presented with some fascinating challenges, for we are confronted with a strange world consisting of infinite choices available to us from a timeless realm filled with a vast supply of unmeasurable energy. This book is about that realm of possibilities and probabilities—the unseen level of reality designated by the wave function.

Nick Herbert, a creative thinker and writer on the subject of quantum physics, sees the world as composed of one thing, something he calls "quantumstuf£"

The world is one substance. As satisfying as this discovery may be to philosophers, it is profoundly distressing to physicists as long as they do not understand the nature of that substance. For if quantumstuff is all there is and you don´t understand quantumstuff, your ignorance is complete. (Herbert, Quantum Reality, p. 40)*
I shall attempt to dispel some of the ignorance regarding quantum-stuff by examining and discussing some of its salient features.
One remarkable characteristic of the quantum world is wholeness. The realm of the wave function is not made up of separate parts, but is totally interconnected, interpenetrated, and intermeshed. Assuming everything is made of one substance, then each of us is part of some infinite, invisible web; what happens in one part of the universe reverberates everywhere, and strong instantaneous influences at some deeper level take place between distant points.

When quantum theory informs us that an "act of observation" is needed to manifest, or make "real," a particular state from all the possible states that exist simultaneously in the world of the wave function, this implies that consciousness plays a major role in creating our reality. Though we have not yet learned how to incorporate consciousness into our science, I am convinced that we must come to terms with its primary importance.

One of the most intriguing aspects of the unseen realm of the wave function is that it contains an incomprehensible amount of energy, which we have no way of measuring. I shall consider what this energy might be and speculate on its nature as a vast reservoir of light, not unlike that described by many mystics.

I shall also examine such familiar concepts as motion, space, time, and matter and show how they can be understood in a broader context when viewed through the prism of the wave function. From the perspective of classical Newtonian physics, we are accustomed to seeing our reality as consisting of matter which obeys certain laws within our three-dimensional world of space and time. A different view—and a more complete picture—is possible when we also understand matter while it is still in the domain of the wave function as potential—as elusive as its nature in that context seems to be.

To talk about reality while ignoring that unperceived "other" world is like an iceberg describing itself with no awareness of the ocean from which it originated. Thus, we shall examine in some detail (though nonmathematically) that underlying ocean from which our reality arises, the home of the wave function1 the realm I call The Hidden Domain.



*Full bibliographic references are given at the end of the book.

Copyrighted 1997 by Norman Friedman. All rights reserved.





-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

What They Say . . . About The Hidden Domain
"Norman Friedman explores the nature of reality in a way that unifies scientific and spiritual perspectives. The Hidden Domain offers fascinating insights into our world and ourselves."
—Walter Eckhart, Ph.D., Professor, The Salk Institute

"Norman Firedman´s outstanding explination of the ´hidden domain´ helps us all shape our own reality more consciously. Seth readers will thrill at this scientific corroboration of Jane Roberts´ unique life work."
—Elizabet Sahtouris, Ph.D., Evolution Biologist and author of EarthDance

"Unless modern western science can embrace the concept that consciousness is primary, it will remain trapped in a repetitive maze. The Hidden Domain helps us move down the path toward development the art/sciences of quantum biology and quantum physics. This book is of immense value."
—Herbert G. Lebherz, Ph.D., Professor of Biochemistry, San Diego State University

"This important book is a bridge to a new millennium in which the divisions of science and spirituality, intellect and intuition, will harmonized."
—Larry Dossey, M.D., author of Prayer is Good Medicine

"Norman Friedman is able to anticipate and methodically deal with all the questions I ever wanted to ask about quantum mechanics but never did for fear I would be unable to understand the answers. For that I am most grateful."
—Montague Ullman, M.D., Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, Emeritus,
Albert Einstein College of Medicine, N.Y.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 05:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
You Create Your Own Reality - So Says "Seth"
by Alexis Brooks
(Originally published on Themestream.com, February 9, 2001)


"If you believe firmly that your consciousness is locked up somewhere inside your skull and is powerless to escape it, if you feel that your consciousness ends at the boundary of your body, then you sell yourself short, and you will think that I am a delusion. I am no more a delusion than you are."

-From the book, Seth Speaks

Many who are familiar with the esoteric writings of Seth channeled by the late author, Jane Roberts, believe that indeed his insight gave birth to the New Age Movement.

For some, The Seth Material raises lots of questions, for others - many answers. For me, I found the latter to be true.

Although the source of the information will no doubt challenge conventional thought, one must try to get beyond the messenger and entertain the message. As Seth, himself says:

"You would be much better off in reading this book if you asked yourself who you are, rather than asked who I am, for you cannot understand what I am unless you understand the nature of personality and the characteristics of consciousness."

Seth´s wisdom and insight is not only thought provoking, but inspires us all to be more introspective about our own individuality and our interconnectedness to the universe...the interplay of which is more constant, more dynamic and more infinite than we might have ever imagined, if at all.

His basic tenet is, "You Create Your Own Reality," (YCYOR)...with no exceptions. At the outset this may be a hard pill to swallow, especially when one applies this philosophy to all aspects of one´s life and looks back in retrospect on circumstances that appeared totally out of one´s control. But if the information is gently assimilated with objective thought, an open heart and an attitude free of any specific belief system (at least while reading the material) one may find an innate resonance within the books pages.

In 1963 Jane Roberts, the author who claimed to channel the "energy personality essence, no longer focused in physical matter," began her life changing trek along with husband and artist Robert Butts after a small series of transcendental experiences which included the writing of an automatic script entitled "The Physical Universe As Idea Construction."

She said that in the midst of her usual after dinner poetry writing sessions, she felt her consciousness leave her body and her "mind was barraged by ideas that were astonishing and new to me at the time." Rather than being overwhelmed by sheer perplexity, Roberts decided to further investigate the process of what had happened to her. Her tenacity served as the impetus for what became a journey with Seth, which spanned some 20 years until her death in 1984. The result: volumes of "Seth dictated" books including well known titles, Seth Speaks-The Eternal Validity of the Soul, The Nature of Personal Reality and The Seth Material. As well, under current development are "The Early Sessions," a collection of the first 510 Seth sessions which are being published by New Awareness Network, Inc. Taken collectively, this material contains information so impressive that the prestigious Yale University now houses this luminous body of work in its archives.

Overall, the ideas that Seth puts forth are so provocative and potentially explosive that one might see it as threatening to our -oh so- secure conventional world-view. However, many have found his books so enlightening and to the contrary, non-threatening, for the sheer fact that none of the material is cloaked in any specific religious dogma.

Although free from any organized cloaking, Seth attempts to explain the origins of the world´s great religions by weaving meaning throughout their dictums, yet he is clear to point out that many religious interpretations are indeed distortions or shadows of their original meaning.

"There are internal realizations always present within the whole self. There is comprehension of the meaning of all existence within each personality. ...This internal [realization] attempts to find a place for itself within the physical landscape, to translate itself into physical terms."

And so, he speaks of religion within the context of history and that history represents the physical landscape.

At this point, many might be tempted to write off all of what Seth says as simply blasphemous and without warrant. But again, if one is to temporarily suspend their currently held beliefs with regard to religion, one might find that rather than disputing the validity of organized religion, Seth provides an invaluable framework for religion thereby making it far more viable and even meaningful in one´s life. He by no means strips away its value. In fact I found that after reading numerous pages on his ideas about religion that I had a new found respect for many religions, and could embrace their history and interpretations collectively. As I have maintained, regardless of the delineation, most of our world´s great religions are but interpretations of the same fundamental truth. Seth´s ideas confirmed that for me.

"Consciousness creates form. It is not the other way around."

This is a theme he maintains throughout his books to the point where some readers may find it redundant. I found the passage to be poignant and purposeful and necessary. There is a need to reiterate this because (he) says we have seemingly forgotten this conscious creation process along the path of our evolution.

Clearly, many metaphysicians, psychologists, and even some physicists now believe that thought plays an integral part in the manifestations we experience as our physical reality. Especially in alternative medicine, many are using a thought based approach to healing, using visualization techniques. Even orthodox medicine is finally giving some credence to the idea that a person´s physical well being may be partially dependent on the mental health of the individual.

Seth not only advises us that our thoughts and beliefs play a role in our physical environment, individually and en masse, but have a consciousness of their own and are responsible for creating our physical reality. This applies not only to our health, but to every aspect of what we experience from wars to weather conditions.

There is a psychic climate, which originates within the consciousness of the masses and it is that climate which predicts the physical outcome.

Many of the anomalous phenomena which has been studied within quantum physics has clearly intimated much of the same findings as those revealed by Seth, especially with regard to the energy/matter, thought/form connection.

In fact, Seth´s dialogue is at times so scientifically oriented that the intricacy of the material would add further validity to the fact that it was not Roberts herself that was giving the information, but that of an entity outside of her own personality. Although Roberts was indeed quite intelligent, her area of expertise was self admittedly far removed from that of science in any way shape or form.

Regardless of where the information originated, its words are meant to help, to heal and to remember who we really are. And for that, many are eternally grateful, myself among them.

It would be difficult for me to articulate the breadth and depth of the Seth material in this one article. I will certainly plan to cover more about Seth in upcoming articles.
stgeorge
User ID: 15922
Canada
11/20/2005 05:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
The files are too large and heavy reading.
Could they not do as i do and condense it into a few lines or paragraphs?
I should have worked for a newspaper!

"You crossed out my story line ´RAGING INFERNO´. What did you replace it with?"
"Uh,Fire."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 05:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
The files are too large and heavy reading.

These files are Mp3´s and you LISTEN to them?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 05:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Oh, what I just posted, I thought if nobody had ever heard of SETH, they might be a nice introduction, I wish I could say sorry for the length but I think it might be well worth your time.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1294
United States
11/20/2005 05:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
I recommend "a course in miracles" and "power vs. force" by david hawkins... both can be downloaded on this site.
stgeorge
User ID: 15922
Canada
11/20/2005 05:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
I dunno AC. When I entered the link,there were volumous files,perhaps MP3´s in there on some of them.I do not have the time to find out.
Post the most meaningful ones.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 06:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Hi 114,

[link to files.noblerealms.net]

scroll down to the Metaphysical section, look for these files

» Seth_Speaks_abridged_audio_1of2.mp3 [8.25mb]
Abridged version of Seth Speaks in audio form, part 1 of 2.

» Seth_Speaks_abridged_audio_2of2.mp3 [8.73mb]
Part 2 of audio book.



OR

here are the actual links right to the files

[link to files.noblerealms.net]
and
[link to files.noblerealms.net]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/20/2005 09:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26761
United States
11/21/2005 01:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Awesome, OP! Thanks for the link.
I am having problems listening from my home computer recently ... I don´t know if it´s my speakers, or what, but I am emailing the link to my work address, and since I listen to a lot of on-line material while working, I am going to check these out tomorrow.

I was thinking not long ago that it would be great to get some recordings of Seth, and now we have a link! Great! Thanks! rose
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 752
United States
11/21/2005 02:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
stgeorge,
check our aol email please.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 752
United States
11/21/2005 02:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
nm
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276
United States
11/21/2005 01:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
yoda
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/22/2005 02:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42796
France
11/22/2005 03:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
ùhhç_fà-
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42796
France
11/22/2005 03:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
ùhhç_fà-
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276
United States
11/22/2005 03:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
ùhhç_fà- scratching
Dexter

User ID: 7263
United States
11/22/2005 03:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Thanks OP there´s a lot of very fascinating stuff in there!! I am listening to Stuart Wilde talking about meditation. Lots of neat stuff and its just the explaination.

There are many things in this site that I have been wondering about for a while, and its all here, in one place!! How much more convenient can you get?

Ive got the tesla patents, The seth stuff (bottom of my list to listen to sorry, but I did dl it) Some free energy stuff, and lots of the stuff by stuart wilde on meditation. I think you should have titled the thread differently though, as the Seth stuff is just a fraction of whats right there for everyone to grab. Its a metaphysical smorgasborg, all you can eat!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276
United States
11/22/2005 03:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
I agree, The site has a treasure chest of Knowleadge. Seth is the first place I would Start :-)

Eckart Tolle 2nd

But it is all facets of TRUTH, Were blessed to have so many voices speaking Truth
Dex logged out again
User ID: 7263
United States
11/22/2005 04:34 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
I really dislike the timeout....

Anyway I have been listening to Seth now, and its all pretty neat stuff. Sorry for saying it was last on my list, after writing that I was compelled to just try and hear what it says. I couldnt stop (but am forcing myself now cuz I need sleep) listening to it. Fascinating. Thanks again!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197
United States
11/22/2005 04:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Rock On! It´s all good bro!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42839
China
11/22/2005 09:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 43774
United States
11/26/2005 06:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9464
United States
11/26/2005 07:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Thanks for the link.
gooderboy

User ID: 22423
United States
11/26/2005 07:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Listen to "Seth Speaks" for FREE here, scroll down to the Metaphysical section at this link...
Most gooder to feel-see Seth out there, most gooder indeed.
(thanks ever Seth, Jane, and Rob)

w/luv,hi
just me

News