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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blank 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 04/17/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure OP, Is it "Saturn's day" or "Sun's day"? When a man comes to Christ, does He find rest for his soul? If so, has he entered into His rest? I think it is good for a man to find rest. God is able to give a man rest. Best wishes in finding the Sabbath. peace, |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051 Psalm 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. + Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: = Truth /|\ ok the sabbat was made for us..that is a good start..but what day is it? and is it a day picked out by the father? 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure OP, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370 Is it "Saturn's day" or "Sun's day"? When a man comes to Christ, does He find rest for his soul? If so, has he entered into His rest? I think it is good for a man to find rest. God is able to give a man rest. Best wishes in finding the Sabbath. peace, peace 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Buddaroll User ID: 14577320 United Kingdom 04/17/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, to be honest, I have been working on this myself. As soon as I repair my taxes that I just realized the husband messed up so I can mail them , I will gather what notes I have so far ans will post them for you as coherently as my addled brain can. Edited to add: Maybe this is something that would be good for some of us to work on together. Civil and rational discourse of these things are always good and often helpful. Last Edited by Buddaroll on 04/17/2012 10:20 PM |
Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/17/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051 Psalm 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. + Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: = Truth /|\ ok....but what day is it? and is it a day picked out by the father? Hello Neim! Which day is best for you? ? |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, to be honest, I have been working on this myself. Quoting: Buddaroll As soon as I repair my taxes that I just realized the husband messed up so I can mail them , I will gather what notes I have so far ans will post them for you as coherently as my addled brain can. I already know I am attempting to make people read and research but thank you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051 Psalm 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. + Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: = Truth /|\ . ok....but what day is it? and is it a day picked out by the father? Hello Neim! Which day is best for you? ? I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/17/2012 10:21 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Buddaroll User ID: 14577320 United Kingdom 04/17/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, to be honest, I have been working on this myself. Quoting: Buddaroll As soon as I repair my taxes that I just realized the husband messed up so I can mail them , I will gather what notes I have so far ans will post them for you as coherently as my addled brain can. I already know I am attempting to make people read and research but thank you LOL. I was pretty sure that I had the answer, but have felt the need to look into it more. So many layers and multiple meanings in each passage. Some literal, some spiritual. I am amazed every time that I read a passage that I have read many times before and notice something new. |
Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/17/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051 Psalm 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. + Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: = Truth /|\ . ok....but what day is it? and is it a day picked out by the father? Hello Neim! Which day is best for you? ? I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, to be honest, I have been working on this myself. Quoting: Buddaroll As soon as I repair my taxes that I just realized the husband messed up so I can mail them , I will gather what notes I have so far ans will post them for you as coherently as my addled brain can. I already know I am attempting to make people read and research but thank you LOL. I was pretty sure that I had the answer, but have felt the need to look into it more. So many layers and multiple meanings in each passage. Some literal, some spiritual. I am amazed every time that I read a passage that I have read many times before and notice something new. Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 2180622 United States 04/17/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definitely NOT Sunday. That was changed by the Vatican. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 04/17/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, to be honest, I have been working on this myself. Quoting: Buddaroll As soon as I repair my taxes that I just realized the husband messed up so I can mail them , I will gather what notes I have so far ans will post them for you as coherently as my addled brain can. I already know I am attempting to make people read and research but thank you LOL. I was pretty sure that I had the answer, but have felt the need to look into it more. So many layers and multiple meanings in each passage. Some literal, some spiritual. I am amazed every time that I read a passage that I have read many times before and notice something new. Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters Thanks for those references. I might humbly recommend she/he also read Hebrews Chapter 4, in addition. God Bless. peace, |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great answer...you so honest 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14480612 Canada 04/17/2012 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To my knowledge there is no place in scripture that names either the first or last day of the week. At one point the scribes came out and accused Jesus of working on the sabbath when he healed people on that day. Jesus told the story of the lamb that had fallen off the cliff on the sabbath. He said the good shepherd climbs down and rescues him and returns the sheep to his flock rather than leave the sheep there till the next day. Jesus was saying that sometimes things happen that the law cannot be applied to. In other words keeping the law would be more evil or unrighteous than breaking it. Jesus was implying that you have to use a little common sense and your best judgement in those cases. This is one of them. If God is not going to smite you for rescuing a sheep on the sabbath, I don't expect he's going to get all technical about which day you choose to observe the sabbath on when the truth of the matter is impossible to determine. |
Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/17/2012 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters How does that rule out Monday? ? |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? Well after messiahs death the disciples and apostles did not say it was nailed to the cross but they continued honoring sabbath according to the commandments, I can prove that also! Turn with me to the book of Luke Chapter 23 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. This was a what you called a high holiday a shabbat rest day these are commanded also on holy days of the father like the first day of passover if it falls in the week it is to be a shabbat in addition to the weekly 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters How does that rule out Monday? ? you asked me what day I liked.I picked monday..monday has nothing to to with what the father commanded us, or what ever day you like or i like.It is not what we like it is what he expects of us which is to obey. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/17/2012 10:44 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/17/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like mondays but it is not what I like that matters. it is what the father ask us to do What did he ask you to do? ? 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Thank God for giving us rest. }{ |
Wonko the Sane User ID: 1006609 United States 04/17/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, consider the early Church. Most first-century Christians were also Jewish people who went to Synagogue on Saturday. That's the simple reason the Christian Sabbath was on a day other than Saturday (as you say, all days are holy, and who can say which 'day' in God's eyes was the 7th?) Last Edited by Wonko the Sane on 04/17/2012 10:48 PM |
Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/17/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does that rule out Monday? ? you asked me what day I liked.I picked monday..monday has nothing to to with what the father commanded us, or what ever day you like or i like.It is not what we like it is what he expects of us which is to obey. Respectfully- When asked what He expects- you pointed to Gen2 and Exo 31. Neither seem to rule out Monday. Is there some other reason why Monday doesn't work for you (and Him)? ? |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Go to genesis chapter 2 verse 1 to 3 then go to exodus chp 31:13 for starters How does that rule out Monday? ? you asked me what day I liked.I picked monday..monday has nothing to to with what the father commanded us, or what ever day you like or i like.It is not what we like it is what he expects of us which is to obey. Respectfully- When asked what He expects- you pointed to Gen2 and Exo 31. Neither seem to rule out Monday. Is there some other reason why Monday doesn't work for you (and Him)? ? when is the seventh day? if you read the verses 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, consider the early Church. Most first-century Christians were also Jewish people who went to Synagogue on Saturday. That's the simple reason the Christian Sabbath was on a day other than Saturday (as you say, all days are holy, and who can say which 'day' in God's eyes was the 7th?) Quoting: Wonko the Sane from creation it has been maintained...so then who is to say the same for sunday if this is your logic 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
rb User ID: 2206075 United States 04/17/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the 7th day is the Lord's rest we strive to enter we rest in Him every day ;) every day is a day to honor and worship and praise Him ;) the millenial age will be the ultimate fulfillment. it is rapidly approaching. the Lord will reign on earth thus the final 1000 years = the Day of the Lord ;) love rb |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12462032 Canada 04/17/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saturday would be the day in hommage to Saturn, right? according to the calendar, Saturday is the Seventh day. Is it a day for Rest, because of the Saturnalian energy? in that sense, the dark ones can use that energy while everyone is resting more questions than answers |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/17/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just said monday to prove a point..it is not what we like..I could have said wednesday or thursday Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar You said it was made for you... Why can't you decide? ? you decide for yourself or follow what the word says.I follow the word and what is commanded but there are those who say differently and that is the purpose of the thread for someone to find where their logic came from.So far no one has provided anything but chit chat 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |