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dose anybody know what saved Noah and his family during the flood?

 
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It stopped raining... iamwith
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anybody?
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Noah is a fictional character. Read the "Epic of Gilgamesh" and enlighten yourself.
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Thats not what the bible says. It says noah and 8 soles were saved by water. (huh) If water was death to everyone else how did it save noah and 8 soles? wouldnt it be the ark that saved them or is this a play on words?
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The water made the boat swim. Thus the water, while drowning others, also lifted up the boat, saving Noah and his crew.
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Yep. The water accepted everyone else and rejected Noah. I think that would make him a witch.
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If millions of people and billions of other creatures drowned during the great flood , why haven't we found their fossils in sedimentary rock ? Rocks do not lie , we have evidence of all the creatures that have been on the planet including Dinosaurs , but not one fossil from the great flood . Not even a layer of sediment around the planet formed by silt to verify this HUGE event !

If rain DOES not come from space , where did all the extra water come from to cover the mountains ? Where did it all go to after the event ?
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water come from space they said it a couple of months ago (stuff about stars spraying water into space) but they are still not capable to find any proof of the existence of their stories, strange strange tounge

a flood happened for sure but there is not a single 100% truth about the rest of the story...
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Im sorry my friend it is not for you to understand. You are not included.
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1. Water does come from space, everything on this planet came from space, we are mainly carbon which is the most abudant element in the cosmos, however lots of Hydrogen is present in space, which gets deposited in our enviroment and then mixed with oxygen and viola. If you recall basic science class, water evaporates back into air, thus our atmosphere is mostly 'rain in reserve'

2. Fossils take literally hundreds of thousands of years to form. Literally. Fossils do not form in 6000 years (the time of Noah) We do indeed find skeletal remnants from this period, however nowhere near the magnitude that would lend evidence to this story.

3. Insects can be traced back uninteruppted for literally millions of years. Therefor we have to assume, since no mention is made of insects on the ark, that indeed some life survived the flood.

4. Flood stories exactly like Noah's appear in nearly every single religion that come after it, regardless of region.
Flood stories like Noah's appear in many many cultures various lore and myths. Indicating that at some point in time, mankind did indeed suffer a global flood, most likely at the end of an ice age. However it is unlikely this flood covered all the land. Still the event would have been so destructive it would have been legendary for centuries.

5. Evidence points to the Red Sea as being the fabled 'Garden of Eden' at one point it was a lush and vibrant plains area, with ample farming and wildlife, a true eden. Then a shift in ocean levels combined with the valley being below sea level and only protected by the moutains, once the water came over the top of this natural dam... The ensuing flood would have wiped out the entire culture in the area, the remaining refugees would no doubt have carried the horrific tale with them.
Fast forward a thousand years and this fable gets incorporated into all religions.

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anybody?
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obediance saved them.
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If millions of people and billions of other creatures drowned during the great flood , why haven't we found their fossils in sedimentary rock ? Rocks do not lie , we have evidence of all the creatures that have been on the planet including Dinosaurs , but not one fossil from the great flood . Not even a layer of sediment around the planet formed by silt to verify this HUGE event !

If rain DOES not come from space , where did all the extra water come from to cover the mountains ? Where did it all go to after the event ?
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water come from space they said it a couple of months ago (stuff about stars spraying water into space) but they are still not capable to find any proof of the existence of their stories, strange strange tounge

a flood happened for sure but there is not a single 100% truth about the rest of the story...
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Im sorry my friend it is not for you to understand. You are not included.
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i'm not your friend, keep your sticky tongue away of my boots would you.
included in what? the huge brainwashing program invented to destroy an entire planet?
cool i was not even thinking to join your masochist, disturbing and deadly cult.
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God did .
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obediance saved them.
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^^^^this^^^^
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I was just sittin here thinkin, we all know the answer to this question. It was the ark that saved Noah and his family(and all of mankind if you think about it), yep, because even if he had the favor of God, and plenty of forewarning, it was still thre work of his hands that saved him. And in these last days, with all the warning we are getting now concerning these end times, if you aren't putting away food, water and a means to protect yourself and your loved ones. you're gonna perish as did the rest of the world back then. Just sdayn...
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Was sittin here readin my earler post, and read a few others while contemplating the ignorance of others, and their horrific spelling and grammer, when I saw that some moron posted that there was no evidence of the flood? What?
There is PLENTY of evidence. One should do a bit of research before posting something. Ya know, you can keep your mouth shut and everyone might think you're an idiot. Or you can open it and prove you are! Just sayin...
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can someone explain to me. If Noah was the only one saved by God, From where black, yellow and red race come from????
Did God color them after the flood????
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Any bibletard can explain?????
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At the time of the great destruction of Earth, God caused a dragon from out of Heaven to come and encompass
her about. The dragon was frightful to behold, it lashed its tail, it breathed out fire and hot coals, and a great
catastrophe was inflicted upon mankind. The body of the dragon was wreathed in a cold bright light and
beneath, on the belly, was a ruddy hued glow, while behind it trailed a flowing tail of smoke. It spewed out
cinders and hot stones and its breath was foul and
stenchful, poisoning the nostrils of men.

Its passage causedgreat thunderings and lightnings to rend the thick darkened sky, all Heaven and Earth being made hot. The seas were loosened from their cradles and rose up, pouring across the land. There was an awful, shrilling trumpeting which outpowered even the howling of the unleashed winds.

Men, stricken with terror, went mad at the awful sight in the Heavens. They were loosed from their senses and
dashed about, crazed, not knowing what they did. The breath was sucked from their bodies and they were burnt
with a strange ash.
Then it passed, leaving Earth enwrapped within a dark and glowering mantle which was ruddily lit up inside.
The bowels of the Earth were torn open in great writhing upheavals and a howling whirlwind rent the mountains
apart. The wrath of the sky-monster was loosed in the Heavens. It lashed about in flaming fury, roaring like a
thousand thunders; it poured down fiery destruction amid a welter of thick black blood.

So awesome was the fearfully aspected thing that the memory mercifully departed from man, his thoughts were smothered under a cloud of forgetfulness.

The Earth vomited forth great gusts of foul breath from awful mouths opening up in the midst of the land. The
evil breath bit at the throat before it drove men mad and killed them. Those who did not die in this manner were
smothered under a cloud of red dust and ashes, or were swallowed by the yawning mouths of Earth or crushed
beneath crashing rocks.

The first sky-monster was joined by another which swallowed the tail of the one going before, but the two could
not be seen at once. The sky-monster reigned and raged above Earth, doing battle to possess it, but the many
bladed sword of God cut them in pieces, and their falling bodies enlarged the land and the sea.

In this manner the first Earth was destroyed by calamity descending from out of the skies. The vaults of Heaven
had opened to bring forth monsters more fearsome than any that ever haunted the uneasy dreams of men.

Men and their dwelling places were gone, only sky boulders and red earth remained where once they were, but
amidst all the desolation a few survived, for man is not easily destroyed. They crept out from caves and came
down from the mountainsides. Their eyes were wild and their limbs trembled, their bodies shook and their
tongues lacked control. Their faces were twisted and the skin hung loose on their bones. They were as maddened
wild beasts driven into an enclosure before flames; they knew no law, being deprived of all the wisdom they
once had and those who had guided them were gone.

The Earth, only true Altar of God, had offered up a sacrifice of life and sorrow to atone for the sins of mankind.

Man had not sinned in deed but in the things he had failed to do. Man suffers not only for what he does but for
what he fails to do. He is not chastised for making mistakes but for failing to recognize and rectify them.

Then the great canopy of dust and cloud which encompassed the Earth, enshrouding it in heavy darkness, was
pierced by ruddy light, and the canopy swept down in great cloudbursts and raging storm waters. Cool
moontears were shed for the distress of Earth and the woes of men.

When the light of the sun pierced the Earth's shroud, bathing the land in its revitalizing glory, the Earth again
knew night and day, for there were now times of light and times of darkness. The smothering canopy rolled
away and the vaults of Heaven became visible to man. The foul air was purified and new air clothed the reborn
Earth, shielding her from the dark hostile void of Heaven.

The rainstorms ceased to beat upon the faces of the land and the waters stilled their turmoil.

Earthquakes no longer tore the Earth open, nor was it burned and buried by hot rocks. The land masses were re-established in stability and solidity, standing firm in the midst of the surrounding waters. The oceans fell back to their assigned places and the land stood steady upon its foundations. The sun shone upon land and sea, and life was renewed upon the face of the Earth. Rain fell gently once more and clouds of fleece floated across dayskies.

The waters were purified, the sediment sank and life increased in abundance. Life was renewed, but it was
different. Man survived, but he was not the same. The sun was not as it had been and a moon had been taken
away. Man stood in the midst of renewal and regeneration. He looked up into the Heavens above in fear for the
awful powers of destruction lurking there. Henceforth, the placid skies would hold a terrifying secret.

Man found the new Earth firm and the Heavens fixed. He rejoiced but also feared, for he lived in dread that the
Heavens would again bring forth monsters and crash about him.

When men came forth from their hiding places and refuges, the world their fathers had known was gone forever.
The face of the land was changed and Earth was littered with rocks and stones which had fallen when the
structure of Heaven collapsed. One generation groped in the desolation and gloom, and as the thick darkness
was dispelled its children believed they were witnessing a new creation.

Time passed, memory dimmed and the
record of evens was no longer clear. Generation followed generation and as the ages unfolded, new tongues and
new tales replaced the old.

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Noah is a re-writing of the Gilgamesh legend. It is a RIDDLE. You are supposed to do the math and solve it. When it was written everyone knew the previous story, Gilgamesh, so no one took it literally. Read Freeborn in "One". The story is in the numbers.
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can someone explain to me. If Noah was the only one saved by God, From where black, yellow and red race come from????
Did God color them after the flood????
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Any bible student can explain?????

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Weymouth New Testament
He caused to spring from one forefather people of every race, for them to live on the whole surface of the earth, and marked out for them an appointed span of life and the boundaries of their homes;
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Noah is a re-writing of the Gilgamesh legend. It is a RIDDLE. You are supposed to do the math and solve it. When it was written everyone knew the previous story, Gilgamesh, so no one took it literally. Read Freeborn in "One". The story is in the numbers.
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bsflag Why can't they be both accounts from the same event ?
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^^^^ This for certain
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At the time of the great destruction of Earth, God caused a dragon from out of Heaven to come and encompass
her about. The dragon was frightful to behold, it lashed its tail, it breathed out fire and hot coals, and a great
catastrophe was inflicted upon mankind. The body of the dragon was wreathed in a cold bright light and
beneath, on the belly....


Did you write this? Or are you quoting someone? It is very good.
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The Gilgamesh story pre-dates the Noah story by about 3000 years. It is found in Babylonian literature dated from around 5 to 6000 years ago. The Noah story appears in literature, called the Torah, much more recently. The date of its appearance without "self referencing" the Noah story is around 3000 years ago.
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Since it's just a childish fable, Nothing happened to them, they never existed in the first place.

the story of Noah is just another fairytale that was taken from the ancient Sumerians, thousands of years before the fictional Jesus. In fact all reliegion is just a hodgepodge of ridiculous stories passed down for eons..

Religion is STUPID


The epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest stories ever written. Older than the legends of the Greeks or the jewish people, it is the ancient heroic myth of the Sumerian civilization, which flourished in Mesopotamia (now Iraq) between 5,000 and 6,000 years ago. Gilgamesh was the great hero king of Sumerian myth - a bit like King Arthur in British legends, in that nobody knows whether he actually existed, but lots of stories were told about him. Like the Greek hero Odysseus (Ulysses) and the Arabian hero Sinbad the Sailor, Gilgamesh went on epic travels, and he met many strange things and people on his journeys. One of them was an old man (a very, very old man, centuries old) called Utnapashtim, who told Gilgamesh a strange story about himself. Well, it seemed strange to Gilgamesh, but it may not seem so strange to you because you have probably heard a similar story...about another old man with a different name.

Utnapashtim told Gilgamesh of an occasion, many centuries earlier, when the gods were angry with humankind because we made so much noise they couldn't sleep.

The chief god, Enlil, suggested that they should send a great flood to destroy everybody, so the gods could get a good night's rest. But the water god, Ea, decided to warn Utnapashtim. Ea told Uttnapashtim to tear down his house and build a boat.


It would have to be a very big boat, because Utnapashtim was to take into it 'the seed of all living creatures'.

Utnapashtim built the boat just in time, before it rained for six days and six nights without stopping. The flood that followed drowned everybody and everything that was not safely inside the boat. On the seventh day the wind dropped and the waters grew calm and flat.

Utnapashtim opened a hatch in the tightly sealed boat and released a dove. The dove flew away, looking for land, but failed to find and and returned. Then Utnapashtim released a swallow, but the same thing happened.

Finally Utnapashtim released a raven. The raven didn't come back, which suggested to Utnapashtim that there was dry land somewhere and the raven had found it.

Eventually the boat came to rest on a mountaintop poking out of the water.

Another god, Ishtar, created the first rainbow, as a token of the gods' promise to send no more terrible floods. So that is how the rainbow came into being, according to the ancient legend of the Sumerians.

Well, I said the story would be familiar. All children reared in Christian, Jewish, or Islamic countries will immediately recognize that it is the same as the more recent story of Noah's Ark, with one or two minor differences.

The name of the boat-builder changes from Utnapashtim to the Noah. The many gods of the older legend turn into the one god of the Jewish story. The 'seed of all living creatures' becomes spelled out as 'every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort' - or, as the song has it, 'the animals went in two by two' - and the Epic of Gilgamesh surely meant something similar.

In fact, it is obvious that the Jewish story of Noah is nothing more than a retelling of the older legend of Utnapashtim. It was a folk tale that got passed around, and it travelled down the centuries. We often find that seemingly ancient legends have come from even older legends, usually with some names or other details changed.

And this one, in both versions, ends with the rainbow.

In both the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Book of Genesis, the rainbow is an important part of the myth. Genesis specifies that it was actually God's bow, which he put up in the sky as a token of his promise to Noah and his descendants.

There is one more difference between the Noah story and the earlier Sumerian tale of Utnapashtim. In the Noah version, the reason for God's discontent with humans was that we were all incurably wicked.

In the Sumerian story, humanity's crime was, you might think, less serious. We simply made so much noise the gods couldn't get to sleep!

I think it's funny. And the theme of noisy humans keeping the gods awake crops up, quite independently, in the legend of the Chumash people of Santa Cruz Island, off the coast of California.

The Chumash people believed that they were created on their island (it obviously wasn't called Santa Cruz then, because that is a Spanish name) from the seeds of a magic plant by the Earth goddess Hutash, who was married to the Sky Snake (what we know as the Milky Way).

The people of the island became very numerous, and, just as in the Epic of Gilgamesh, too noisy for the goddess Hutash's comfort. The racket kept her awake all night. But instead of killing them all, like the Sumerian and Jewish gods, Hutash was kinder. She decided that some of them must move off Santa Cruz, onto the mainland where she wouldn't be able to hear them. So she made a bridge for them to cross by. And the bridge was...yes, the rainbow!

The myth has a strange ending. As the people were crossing over the rainbow bridge, some of the noisy ones looked down - and they were so frightened by the drop that they got dizzy.

They fell off the rainbow into the sea, where they turned into dolphins.

The idea of the rainbow as a bridge crops up in other mythologies, too. In old Norse (Viking) myths, rainbows were seen as fragile bridges used by the gods to travel from the sky world to earth.

Many peoples, for example in Persia, west Africa, Malaysia, Australia and the Americas, have seen the rainbow as a large snake which soars out of the ground to drink the rain.

How do all these legends start, I wonder? Who makes them up, and why do some people eventually come to believe these things really happened?
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Noah was saved because he was pure in his generations aka he was not race mixed.
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Yes, that and He was a Godly obedient man. His family line was not mixed with Nephilim blood I think heard as well.
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CHAPTER FOUR
THE DELUGE
It is written, in The Great Book of the Firehawks, that Earth was destroyed twice, once altogether by fire and
once partially by water. The destruction by water was the lesser destruction and came about in this manner.
The people of those times spurned all spiritual things and men lived only for pleasure, caring little for the good
of mankind or the future of the people. Lewdness and lies were upon the tongues of all men and brother could
not deal justly with brother. The princes and governors were corrupt and proper tribute was not paid, the statues
were held up to scorn. The lives of men were ruled by their desires and they spent their days in gluttony,
drunkedness, fornication, dancing and singing to instruments of music.
The land was unattended, for men dissipated their strength in unproductive lusts and pleasures. Women lacked
shame, for many would cast their glances after one man. Men fought among themselves and even slew one
another because of their lusts for worthless women, while the chaste women were not sought. They were even
rejected, for men declined the effort of being worthy of them in the eyes of their fathers. Wives were
unhonoured and only the women of pleasure commanded the attentions of men. Women were unclean and
immodest and men lay with them shamelessly in the presence of one another. Old women were more lustful than
the young ones, while virgins were seduced and corrupted in their childhood. Fathers fornicated before their
sons and were admired for their prowess. They made no distinction between their sons and other men, or
between their wives and other women. Deceit and violence were seen on every hand.
To the East and North were high mountains upon which dwelt a tribe called The Sons of Nezirah, The Men of
the Mountains, who were hardy men and mighty hunters, skillful in the chase and valiant in battle. The men
were upright, their wives were faithful and their sons noble. In their hearts were no unworthy thoughts, no envy
or hate, no malice or deceitfulness. They did not smile before a man's face, uttering smooth words, then when he
turned his back reach out to stab him. In their wives and daughters there was no impure longing, and neither
cursing nor lying was heard among them. The womenfolk respected their men and maintained decency and
decorum.
Yet they were men with men's ways, abhorring all forms of unmanliness and degeneracy. Therefore, the
treasures in the cities of the plains and the weakness of the people to whom these belonged did not go unnoticed
by The Sons of Nezirah. So they said among themselves, "Let us go down and do a good deed among these
people, let us show them the ways of men who are strong, making them slaves and possessing ourselves of their
goods". This talk continued among the men in the marketplaces and gatherings, until they were stirred up to
deeds, and they gathered together a warband of fighting men. The Mountain Men chose leaders from among
themselves, after their custom, and prepared to fall upon the soft-living people of the plains and become their
masters.
When the chiefs of The Mountain Men saw what was happening, they became wroth and ordered their men to
return to their flocks and pastures. The chief of chiefs stood up before the gathered warband and said, "It is our
decree that this thing shall not be done, you must not go down from these mountains bringing the sword to these
people. Leave them alone, as rotted fruit is left on the tree to whither and die. Leave them to follow their own
ways a little longer and in the fullness of time they will destroy themselves. Make no widows among your own
people. If you go down there carrying fire and sword, you may find a trap laid for you among the fleshpots. The
attraction of their pleasure and the temptations of their luxury is, to strong men such as you, like the lure the
flame has for the moth. Do not lay yourselves open to destruction, even though the manner of its
accomplishment be pleasant. If you must destroy this people, then destroy utterly so nothing remains. They are
many while we are few, and though by the keen hardhitting sword we may prevail in battle, yet might we not be
lost under a deluge of soft feathers? Will you be wise enough to sup on milk and honey without being drowned
in it?"
For a time the fighting men heeded the words of their chiefs, for they were neither willful nor reckless, but there
were some among them who went down to the plains in peace. They returned with tales of treasures and
pleasures awaiting below, reporting that the time was ripe for an attack, the warmen hired by the lowlanders
having departed. For in those days the gods of Sharapik strove against the gods of Elishdur and Ladek. Then the
fighting men disregarded the commands of their chiefs and, choosing war captains from among themselves,
went down and fell upon the people of the plain.
The people of the plain bowed before the strength of the men of the mountains. They did not fight, for among all
their possessions they regarded their lives as the most valuable thing, precious above all else. They said, "Take
whatever we have, our riches and harvests, the treasured things from our dwellings, even our daughters for your
amusement, but leave us enough that we may live under your shadow". The sturdy men of the mountains were
sickened by these half men who had lived for three generations without fighting, and they despised them.
The battlehardened men who had come down from the highlands took whatsoever they desired. The plainsmen
demurred, but because their stomachs turned to water before the virility of their conquerors, their protestations
were words of wind. The victors clothed themselves in plundered finery and indulged themselves in the wines
and delicacies of the food tables. They slept in beds of luxury and dissipation, every want being attended to by
the vanquished. They learned the ways of sensuality which goes with soft-living, and when sated with natural
pleasures some lightened their boredom with unnatural ones. The Mountain Men saw that the women of the
cities were beautiful but they were not modest, casting their charms before the masters, unashamed; so it
followed they were taken when required and treated as chattels. The women did not complain, though hitherto
they had stood equal with their menfolk, but woman's equality with half men is not something of value.
With women like this the men placed no restraint on their lust and went from excess to excess. The women,
rejoicing in the strength and vigour of the men, said among themselves, "Here are men indeed such as we have
not known before". Then, in the manner of women, they turned away from their own men and from the
households of their husbands and fathers, for now they despised them. They threw off all womanly restraint and
grappled with the victors like ravening beasts, and the strong were vanquished by weakness. Always do women
behave thus when their menfolk are defeated in battle, it is for this men fight.
None came to do battle with the victors, for they who had fought for the gods had destroyed themselves and in
the fullness of time the victors, too, were destroyed by the fleshpots, by fornication and drunkenness, by ease
and luxury. Their fighting strength and valour departed with the passing years, they grew fat and slothful. They
who had come down in manly array to fight and win, who could not be challenged in battle by the lesser men of
the plains, were eaten up in the mansions of pleasure, in the drinking booths, with music, wine and fine linen.
Upon the mountain and in the mountain homes there was weeping and sadness among the women. Fields were
untilled and cattle strayed away, sheep went unplucked. The best craftsmen were gone and few remained willing
to learn their skill, the teachers of learning taught no more. The gnarled hand that had wielded the sword and
terrorized the foe now plucked the strings of psaltery and lyre. The rough jerkins and corselets were cast off and
now garments were of fine linen dyed purple and crimson. Men arrayed their softening bodies in gaudy attire
and bathed in scented waters. They rejected their own women for those of the cities whose hands and feet were
stained with bright colours and whose faces were marked with blue.
One day, from afar off came three men of Ardis, their country having been stricken by a mountain burst. They
were worshippers of The One God whose light shines within men, and when they had lived in the two cities for
a number of days they were stirred up in their hearts because of the things they saw. So they called upon their
God to see these evil things. Their God sent down a curse upon the men of the cities, and there came a strange
light and a smoky mist which caught at the throats of men. All things became still and apprehensive, there were
strange clouds in the skies and the nights were hung with heaviness. Many days passed before a northwind came
and the skies cleared; but then, when women conceived they bore devils. Monstrosities came forth from their
wombs, whose faces were terrible and whose limbs were unproportioned.
In those days men knew the art of working clay and making linen in bright colours, and also the use of eye
paint. They had knowledge of herbs and magic, of enchantment, and the wisdom of The Book of Heaven; the
knowledge of signs and omens, the secrets of the seasons, of the moon and the coming of the waters.
The remnants of the Sons of Nezirah remained upon the mountains which are against Ardis, by the land about
the encampment of Lamak. In Ardis there were wise men filled with the inner wisdom, who read The Book of
Heaven with understanding and knew the signs. They saw that the deeds of men in all the lands about the
mountains had brought them to their hour. Then the day came when The Lady of the Night changed her garment
for one of a different hue, and her form swept more swiftly across the skies. Her tresses streamed out behind in
gold and copper, and she rode in a chariot of fire. The people in those days were a great multitude and a loud cry
ascended into Heaven.
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Then the wise men went to Sharepik, now called Sarapesh, and said to Sisuda, the King, "Behold, the years are
shortened and the hour of trial draws nigh. The shadow of doom approaches this land because of its wickedness;
Yet, because you have not mingled with the wicked, you are set apart and shall not perish, this so your seeds
may be preserved". Then the king sent for Hanok, son of Hogaretur, and he came out of Ardis, for there he had
heard a voice among the reeds saying, "Abandon your abode and possessions, for the hour of doom is at hand;
neither gold nor treasure can buy a reprieve".

Then Hanok came into the cities and said to the governors, "Behold, I would go down to the sea and would
therefore build a great ship, that I may take my people upon it. With me will go those who trouble you and they
will take the things which cause you concern; therefore, you will be left in peace to your own enjoyment". The
governors said, "Go down to the sea and build your ship there, and it will be well, for you go with our blessing".
But Hanok answered, "It has been told to me in a dream that the ship should be built against the mountains, and
the sea will come up to me". When he had gone away they declared him mad. The people mocked him, calling
him Commander of the Sea, but they did not hinder him, seeing gain in his undertaking. Therefore a great ship
was laid down under the leadership of Hanok, son of Hogaretur, for Sisuda, king of Sarapesh, from whose
treasury came payment for the building of the vessel.

It was built on the Lake of Namos, close by the river of gold, where it divides. All the household of Hanok was
there and the household of his brother who directed the men at the task. Dwyvan, captain of ships, from the land
beyond Ardis, was overseer of the craftsmen. The women and children carried and the men built. The length of
the great ship was three hundred cubits, and its breadth was fifty cubits, and it was finished off above by one
cubit. It had three storeys which were built without a break.

The lowermost was for the beasts and cattle and their provender, and it was laid over with sand from the river.
The middle one was for birds and fowls, for plants of every kind that are good for man and beast, and the
uppermost one was for the people. Each storey was divided in twain, so that there were six floors below and one
above, and they were divided across with seven partitions. In it were cisterns for water and storehouses for food,
and it was built with askara wood, which water cannot rot or worms enter. It was pitched within and without and
the cisterns were lined. The planks were edged and the joints made fast with hair and oil. Great stones were
hung from ropes of plaited leather, and the ship was without mast or oars. There were no poles and no openings,
except for a hatch beneath the eaves above whereby all things entered. The hatch was secured by great beams.

Into the great ship they carried the seed of all living things; grain was laid up in baskets and many cattle and
sheep were slain for meat which was smoked by fire. They also took all kinds of beasts of the field and wild
beasts, birds and fowls, all things that crawl. Also gold and silver, metals and stones.

The people of the plains came up and camped about to see this wonder, even the Sons of Nezirah were among
them, and they daily mocked the builders of the great ship; but these were not dismayed and toiled harder at the
task. They said to the mockers, "Have your hour, for ours will surely come".

On the appointed day, they who were to go with the great ship departed from their homes and the encampment.
They kissed the stones and embraced the trees, and they gathered up handfuls of the Earth, for all this they
would see no more. They loaded the great ship with their possessions and all their provender went with them.
They set a ram's head over the hatch, pouring out blood, milk, honey and beer. Beating upon their breasts,
weeping and lamenting, the people entered the great shop and closed the hatch, making it secure within.
The king had entered and with him those of his blood, in all fourteen, for it was forbidden that his household go
into the ship.

Of all the people who entered with him, two understood the ways of the sun and moon and the
ways of the year and the seasons. One the quarrying of stones, one the making of bricks and one the making of
axes and weapons. One the playing of musical instruments, one bread, one the making of pottery, one the care of
gardens and one the carving of wood and stone. One the making of roofs, one the working of timbers, one the
making of cheese and butter. One the growing of trees and plants, one the making of ploughs, one the weaving
of cloth and making of dyes, and one the brewing of beer.

One the felling and cutting of trees, one the making of
chariots, one dancing, one the mysteries of the scribe, one the building of houses and the working of leather.
There was one skilled in the working of cedar and willow wood, and he was a hunter; one who knew the
cunning of games and circus, and he was a watchman.

There was an inspector of of water and walls, a
magistrate and a captain of men. There were three servants of God. There was Hanok and his brother and their
households, and Dwyvan and six men who were strangers.
Then, with the dawning, men saw an awesome sight. There, riding on a great black rolling cloud came the
Destroyer, newly released from the confines of the sky vaults, and she raged about the Heavens, for it was her
day of judgment. The beast with her opened its mouth and belched forth fire and hot stones and a vile smoke.

It covered the whole sky above and the meeting place of Earth and Heaven could no longer be seen. In the evening
the places of the stars were changed, they rolled across the sky to new stations, then the floodwaters came.
The floodgates of Heaven were opened and the foundations of Earth were broken apart. The surrounding waters
poured over the land and broke upon the mountains.

The storehouses of the winds burst their bolts asunder, so
storms and whirlwinds were loosed, to hurl themselves upon the Earth. In the seething waters and howling gales
all buildings were destroyed, trees were uprooted and mountains cast down. There was a time of great heat, then
came a time of bitter cold. The waves over the waters did not rise and fall but seethed and swirled, there was an
awful sound above.
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The pillars of Heaven were broken and fell down to Earth. The skyvault was rent and broken, the whole of
creation was in chaos. The stars in the Heavens were loosened from their places, so they dashed about in
confusion. There was a revolt on high, a new ruler appeared there and swept across the sky in majesty.

Those who had not laboured at the building of the great ship and those who had mocked the builders came
quickly to the place where it was lying. They climbed upon the ship and beat upon it with their hands; they
raged and pleaded, but could not enter inside, nor could they break the wood. As the great ship was borne up by
the waters it rolled and they were swept off, for there was no foothold for them. The ship was lifted by the
mighty surge of waters and hurled among the debris, but it was not dashed upon the mountainside because of the
place where it was built. All the people not saved within the ship were swallowed up in the midst of raging
confusion, and their wickedness and corruption was purged away from the face of the Earth.

The swelling waters swept up to the mountain top and filled the valleys. They did not rise like water poured into
a bowl, but came in great surging torrents; but when the tumult quietened and the waters became still, they stood
no more than three cubits above the Earth. The Destroyer passed away into the fastness of Heaven and the great
flood remained seven days, diminishing day by day as the waters drained away to their places. Then the waters
spread out calmly and the great ship drifted amid a brown scum and debris of all kinds.

After many days the great ship came to rest upon Kardo, in the mountains of Ashtar, against Nishim in The Land
of God.
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By water - They were borne up by the waters, and were thus preserved.


This is also an allegory to baptism.

The Ark itself is an allegory for the Spiritual Christ.

So the hidden message is that through baptism, the 8 SOULS were saved by Christ.

That is an allegory to the ministry of John the Baptist.

The number of Jesus is not 8, it is 888.

The birth of Christ is referenced by 111.
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