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Lake Vostok

 
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So, an analysis of the 40 liters of pristine water extracted from vostock will be announced at the leisure of a russian science team?

What the fuck is that all about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209

It's their water.

It's their show.

It's their data.

They are not going to release that data before they are ready to publish there own papers.

If you got a problem with that write a letter to the Russian Academy of Sciences at: 119991 Moscow, Leninskii avenue, 14.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What, they can't publish a paper in 3 months?

That's why I call bullshit

This vastok info should have been public long ago.
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So, an analysis of the 40 liters of pristine water extracted from vostock will be announced at the leisure of a russian science team?

What the fuck is that all about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209

It's their water.

It's their show.

It's their data.

They are not going to release that data before they are ready to publish there own papers.

If you got a problem with that write a letter to the Russian Academy of Sciences at: 119991 Moscow, Leninskii avenue, 14.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What, they can't publish a paper in 3 months?

That's why I call bullshit

This vastok info should have been public long ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209


LOL... Good luck with that.
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05/07/2012 07:32 PM
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So, an analysis of the 40 liters of pristine water extracted from vostock will be announced at the leisure of a russian science team?

What the fuck is that all about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209

It's their water.

It's their show.

It's their data.

They are not going to release that data before they are ready to publish there own papers.

If you got a problem with that write a letter to the Russian Academy of Sciences at: 119991 Moscow, Leninskii avenue, 14.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What, they can't publish a paper in 3 months?

That's why I call bullshit

This vastok info should have been public long ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209


LOL... Good luck with that.
 Quoting: mikebo2


No really

If they're not trying to hide anything, why not publish the findings. This is not pomp and circumstance type bullshit. This is a sample of history dating back millions of years.
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It's their water.

It's their show.

It's their data.

They are not going to release that data before they are ready to publish there own papers.

If you got a problem with that write a letter to the Russian Academy of Sciences at: 119991 Moscow, Leninskii avenue, 14.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


What, they can't publish a paper in 3 months?

That's why I call bullshit

This vastok info should have been public long ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209


LOL... Good luck with that.
 Quoting: mikebo2


No really

If they're not trying to hide anything, why not publish the findings. This is not pomp and circumstance type bullshit. This is a sample of history dating back millions of years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15681209

As if scientist aren't used to that.

A palaeontology department that gets its hands on a nice specimen of a yet unknown species of dinosaur wouldn't show it to the press either.
Not until they're ready.

There's more to doing science then just measuring and analysing things.
You have to figure out what the data means.
You have to draw conclusions and to be able to defend them.
Then you publish your findings: data, reasoning, and conclusions.

They called dibs.
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05/07/2012 10:01 PM
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Okay my fellow amazing distant relatives that are into amazing stuff !
This is my theory...
I found out that there are earthquakes that have been recorded below lake Vostok also i look at the bedrock geology and geologists say there is a fault line running through the lake bed.
This is where sh*t gets real.
All around the world there are millions of miles of underwater rivers under every continent.
SOOOOO ; ) as might now realize. I dont think its as pristine as you would think. Underground rivers and water tables could be feeding water from other areas of the planet including the ocean into Lake Vostok.
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05/08/2012 12:46 PM
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Upon return of scientest to Russia Putin recieved a keepsake sample of the pristine water. I can't figure these Ruskies out.
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05/08/2012 12:49 PM
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perhaps all they found is old water...what are you guys expecting?
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05/08/2012 02:09 PM
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A minute ago, I did a search using "lake vostok news" and discovered nothing past the middle of february.

Some of the more recent posts on this thread reason that it's business as usual.

Don't think so...
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Upon return of scientest to Russia Putin recieved a keepsake sample of the pristine water. I can't figure these Ruskies out.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


Pristine Vostok water, displayed next to authentic moon rocks...oh my
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Okay my fellow amazing distant relatives that are into amazing stuff !
This is my theory...
I found out that there are earthquakes that have been recorded below lake Vostok also i look at the bedrock geology and geologists say there is a fault line running through the lake bed.
This is where sh*t gets real.
All around the world there are millions of miles of underwater rivers under every continent.
SOOOOO ; ) as might now realize. I dont think its as pristine as you would think. Underground rivers and water tables could be feeding water from other areas of the planet including the ocean into Lake Vostok.
: )
 Quoting: SupremeJediTesla


Your theory of millions of miles of underground rivers connecting globally is plausible. But, if you refute the virginity of lake vostok water, please post a link...
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05/08/2012 03:12 PM
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The lake vostok air is very thick. Nobody wants to say anything...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15070353


Wow, you got that right.

The Lake Vostok water sample seems to be a metaphor or amusing anecdote.
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05/08/2012 03:36 PM
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The articles I read (some as old as 2004, granted) all said basically the same thing. The plan was to allow the water to refreeze in the hole and remove the plug of frozen water after the fact in order to avoid as much contamination as possible. Therefore, they could not have yet taken the sample if they had to leave immediately, as was implied. This may not be the actual case, I am no Russian scientist, but that was the way I understood it. The actual sample for study will not be taken until they return.

I confess, I have not heard of this "40 liters" of which you speak, does anyone have a link? Putin was given some of this water? Link? I like to learn new things. :)
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05/08/2012 03:54 PM
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The articles I read (some as old as 2004, granted) all said basically the same thing. The plan was to allow the water to refreeze in the hole and remove the plug of frozen water after the fact in order to avoid as much contamination as possible. Therefore, they could not have yet taken the sample if they had to leave immediately, as was implied. This may not be the actual case, I am no Russian scientist, but that was the way I understood it. The actual sample for study will not be taken until they return.

I confess, I have not heard of this "40 liters" of which you speak, does anyone have a link? Putin was given some of this water? Link? I like to learn new things. :)
 Quoting: Meggarea


I think you will wait a long time for answers to your questions.

Who can validate the 40 liters?

Was Putin given a sample?

Who will validate the vostok water sample?


Too many questions, no answers...
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05/09/2012 02:54 PM
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No new updates...stay tuned
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05/16/2012 04:16 PM
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No new updates...stay tuned
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May 16 2012

No new updates to announce


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05/16/2012 04:18 PM
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:lakevostok:
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05/16/2012 04:23 PM
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:lakevostok:
 Quoting: V-Honey


That's a fine specimen you have there
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05/16/2012 04:24 PM
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:lakevostok:
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That's a fine specimen you have there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15787452


:bigchuckle:
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05/16/2012 04:28 PM
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:lakevostok:
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That's a fine specimen you have there
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:bigchuckle:
 Quoting: V-Honey



OK, I try to update this thread on a regular basis...guilty as charged...sue me
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05/16/2012 04:43 PM
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Just trying to find the results and any implications...
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05/16/2012 05:00 PM
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Any day now, we will know the politically correct results
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:lakevostok:
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That's a fine specimen you have there
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:bigchuckle:
 Quoting: V-Honey



OK, I try to update this thread on a regular basis...guilty as charged...sue me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15787452


Sorry, that "sue me" blurb wasn't meant for you or anyone else


Just trying to break through the ice of Lake Vostok...
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05/19/2012 03:54 PM
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This is an article from over a decade ago

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]


It seems that Lake Vostok has been an enigma for a long time
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05/19/2012 04:02 PM
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Sample wasn't taken they did the drilling the water sample is frozen in the drill pipe they are going back next year to get it.
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05/19/2012 04:13 PM
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Sample wasn't taken they did the drilling the water sample is frozen in the drill pipe they are going back next year to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16259579


Can you provide a link to that info? thanks

All of the articles I read suggest they actually retrieved a 40 liter water sample for immediate analysis. Most of this info is dated to the middle of February.
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Sample wasn't taken they did the drilling the water sample is frozen in the drill pipe they are going back next year to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16259579


Can you provide a link to that info? thanks

All of the articles I read suggest they actually retrieved a 40 liter water sample for immediate analysis. Most of this info is dated to the middle of February.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16329384

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Frozen sample will be removed in December in next Antarctic summer

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Samples of the freshly frozen water in the ice well are expected to be collected at the end of 2012 when the new Antarctic summer starts.

cruise
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Frozen sample will be removed in December in next Antarctic summer

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Samples of the freshly frozen water in the ice well are expected to be collected at the end of 2012 when the new Antarctic summer starts.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16259579


Thanks for those articles. I guess we will wait for the water analysis until the end of 2012.

Wait a minute...
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05/19/2012 04:38 PM
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Frozen sample will be removed in December in next Antarctic summer

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Samples of the freshly frozen water in the ice well are expected to be collected at the end of 2012 when the new Antarctic summer starts.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16259579


Thanks for those articles. I guess we will wait for the water analysis until the end of 2012.

Wait a minute...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16329384



...doesn't it seem strange that a water sample analysis might be available around the time we might not care?
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I think the powers that be know exactly what Lake Vostok is all about. Maybe some day interested folks will be clued in.

yoda
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I think the powers that be know exactly what Lake Vostok is all about. Maybe some day interested folks will be clued in.

yoda
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bump

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