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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2126195 United States04/18/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ha, yea sorry about that.. The forward by Dennis McKenna explains the general idea As does this short interview [link to www.disinfo.com] |
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| MutantMessiah User ID: 9278473 United States04/18/2012 07:58 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  The challenge we have is that I don't know which tools (preconceptual framework) you are missing so let me note the following... you assign the meaning to all that exists...you are confined to that which you define yourself... your experience is a reflection of your choices... your choices are a reflection of your experience... you experience exactly what you deserve... what you think, you become... as above, so below... all is justified in perspective... all is dependent on your perspective... what comes "next" will be what you believe can come next... you are God... you've chosen to forget yourself.... you are forever looking to remember... everything that is, was and will be... is now... you are choosing to be here, right now... if you believe you do not have control, you won't... you are only restricted by your belief... You will feel this. You can make a conscious commitment to drop breadcrumbs for your "current" self, when you get to where you can. Know that as you collect(notice) the crumbs(hints) they are for you, from you. You can only allow yourself to advance as quickly as you believe you can. Believe (feel) what I've reminded you... remind someone else. If you assist others you will be assisted. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2126195 United States04/19/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14664110 and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense. |
| MutantMessiah User ID: 9278473 United States04/19/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14664110 and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense. Getring "there" requires some kind of obscure key and it's always outside what is socially acceptable or legal. But there are other ways beyond drugs to attain that profound state of awareness and understanding. Sit quietly and close yoir eyes, think only on the darkness and white noise on thw back of your eyelids, let yourself notice the sound and feel of your breathe as it enters and exits your body. Do this with no expectations for at least ten minutes... and i am sure you'll notice something a little different when you come to. Last Edited by MutantMessiah on 04/19/2012 11:05 AM The challenge we have is that I don't know which tools (preconceptual framework) you are missing so let me note the following... you assign the meaning to all that exists...you are confined to that which you define yourself... your experience is a reflection of your choices... your choices are a reflection of your experience... you experience exactly what you deserve... what you think, you become... as above, so below... all is justified in perspective... all is dependent on your perspective... what comes "next" will be what you believe can come next... you are God... you've chosen to forget yourself.... you are forever looking to remember... everything that is, was and will be... is now... you are choosing to be here, right now... if you believe you do not have control, you won't... you are only restricted by your belief... You will feel this. You can make a conscious commitment to drop breadcrumbs for your "current" self, when you get to where you can. Know that as you collect(notice) the crumbs(hints) they are for you, from you. You can only allow yourself to advance as quickly as you believe you can. Believe (feel) what I've reminded you... remind someone else. If you assist others you will be assisted. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2126195 United States04/19/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14664110 and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense. Getring "there" requires some kind of obscure key and it's always outside what is socially acceptable or legal. But there are other ways beyond drugs to attain that profound state of awareness and understanding. Sit quietly and close yoir eyes, think only on the darkness and white noise on thw back of your eyelids, let yourself notice the sound and feel of your breathe as it enters and exits your body. Do this with no expectations for at least ten minutes... and i am sure you'll notice something a little different when you come to. ugh..hyperspace and a ten minute meditation are two VERY different things. I've been meditating for years and while i can enter some interesting states, there isn't really any comparison (not that some gifted individuals can't get there, i don't know) The point is that we all consume these external things ALL THE TIME in our diet. Food is LOADED with chemicals that affect our consciousness, and our bodies produce dmt, and many other psychedelics internally as well. The whole "do it yourself" route (i.e. meditation) is good and all that. But your only limiting yourself if you choose one route over the other. A person who only dabbles into psychedelics is limiting themselves, just as a person who only dabbles into meditation is limiting themselves. They could get much farther if they explored both avenues of human experience. If you think psychedelics are unnatural, look at the thousands of animal species that consume mind altering plants/chemicals for valid reason in they're natural habitat. These things are medicines, and this has been verified recently by the countless new studies being done. |
| DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States04/19/2012 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  to read laterThanks bro "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My email-troubledfelix@gmail.com 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2126195 United States04/19/2012 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right? Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level. You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1706996 United States04/19/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2126195 Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level. You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants. I can vouch that meditating will not, in any way shape or form, EVER gey you as far as smoking a huge rip of DMT. You might THINK you get close. but if you're still thinking, instead of having a universal/cosmic download from a supernatural insectoid/archon type god, you're nowhere NEAR where you should be. DMT is produced when you meditate, for sure, but smoking it will get you to places you could NEVER get, even if you were meditating 24/7 for your entire life. |
| MutantMessiah User ID: 13888171 United States04/19/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until I opened the door with an obscure key (the topic of this thread), my meditation was really relaxing but meaningless. Since I've realized my limitations are self imposed through the use of 1-ups (mario style), lucid dreaming and obe are interestingly easy to fall into. We don't have to be gifted, we just need to be open to the possibility that anything can happen. The challenge we have is that I don't know which tools (preconceptual framework) you are missing so let me note the following... you assign the meaning to all that exists...you are confined to that which you define yourself... your experience is a reflection of your choices... your choices are a reflection of your experience... you experience exactly what you deserve... what you think, you become... as above, so below... all is justified in perspective... all is dependent on your perspective... what comes "next" will be what you believe can come next... you are God... you've chosen to forget yourself.... you are forever looking to remember... everything that is, was and will be... is now... you are choosing to be here, right now... if you believe you do not have control, you won't... you are only restricted by your belief... You will feel this. You can make a conscious commitment to drop breadcrumbs for your "current" self, when you get to where you can. Know that as you collect(notice) the crumbs(hints) they are for you, from you. You can only allow yourself to advance as quickly as you believe you can. Believe (feel) what I've reminded you... remind someone else. If you assist others you will be assisted. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2126195 United States04/19/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2126195 Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level. You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants. I can vouch that meditating will not, in any way shape or form, EVER gey you as far as smoking a huge rip of DMT. You might THINK you get close. but if you're still thinking, instead of having a universal/cosmic download from a supernatural insectoid/archon type god, you're nowhere NEAR where you should be. DMT is produced when you meditate, for sure, but smoking it will get you to places you could NEVER get, even if you were meditating 24/7 for your entire life. I fully agree But i should note that it does seem at least slightly possible to build a bridge, of sorts, if you know what i mean. Many can bring hyperspace into they're awareness via 'sober' meditation but it still isn't even close to the full on DMT experience. Its actually more like a lighter dose ayahuasca, in my experience at least. Anyways, i enjoy both tremendously, separate or combined.. And while i'll admit that it might be a possibility there are 'other' ways to it, i think its best to explore many things. |
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| DoubleHelix User ID: 1507771 United States04/22/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got stoned when i started reading it(I even have it saved on my Iphone). I have not finished it yet but it does go along with what i understand thing to be very nicely. I am a little more interest in the esoteric level and so fare that only touches on this. Although i only remember about the vegetarian diet was better for our evolution stuff right now and i already know and understand that and i like how they put it into a scientific understanding for the skeptics and ones looking for concrete proof. So yea, Bravo in that respect. Plus i love Terrance Mckenna's work. And then i started reading this: Thread: Everything will not suddenly change December 21, 2012...rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition, from one World Age to the next Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 04/22/2012 06:13 PM "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My email-troubledfelix@gmail.com 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
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