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DMT, 2012, species wide brain damage, and ascension

 
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This is sort of like an updated stoned-ape theory (if your familiar with terence mckenna).

Free .pdf the author put out. If you don't wanna just read the whole book check out his sites. There is tons of info on them.

[link to leftinthedark.org.uk]
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that link is actually to the .pdf of the book, not sure why it looks like that. The link to his sites are in the .pdf though
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So.... you wanna give the lo-down to all of us stoned apes out here? You aren't seriously gonna make me read all that, are you?

(Only half kidding! Could you paraphrase the difference from the theory as we are used to seeing it?)
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Ha, yea sorry about that..

The forward by Dennis McKenna explains the general idea

As does this short interview [link to www.disinfo.com]
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thank you!!
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I'm very excited to read this. Seems to link together many things I've noticed.
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clappa
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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I'm very excited to read this. Seems to link together many things I've noticed.
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For sure, i felt the same way.. Just wait until you read it lol. It links soooo much together.

Mind blowing is an understatement.
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clappa
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love the words in your sig!
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seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life.
and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD
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seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life.
and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD
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yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense.
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seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life.
and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD
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yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense.
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Getring "there" requires some kind of obscure key and it's always outside what is socially acceptable or legal. But there are other ways beyond drugs to attain that profound state of awareness and understanding. Sit quietly and close yoir eyes, think only on the darkness and white noise on thw back of your eyelids, let yourself notice the sound and feel of your breathe as it enters and exits your body. Do this with no expectations for at least ten minutes... and i am sure you'll notice something a little different when you come to.

Last Edited by MutantMessiah on 04/19/2012 11:05 AM
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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seems plausible. everyone I know that has done DMT has mentioned that IF they break through. they meet a 'creator' of sorts. and they learn the meaning of life.
and then they forget it afterwards. but it remember it happened xD
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yea after reading this book, and after having tons of dmt experiences and reading hundreds from others, it really makes a lot of sense.
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Getring "there" requires some kind of obscure key and it's always outside what is socially acceptable or legal. But there are other ways beyond drugs to attain that profound state of awareness and understanding. Sit quietly and close yoir eyes, think only on the darkness and white noise on thw back of your eyelids, let yourself notice the sound and feel of your breathe as it enters and exits your body. Do this with no expectations for at least ten minutes... and i am sure you'll notice something a little different when you come to.
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ugh..hyperspace and a ten minute meditation are two VERY different things. I've been meditating for years and while i can enter some interesting states, there isn't really any comparison (not that some gifted individuals can't get there, i don't know)

The point is that we all consume these external things ALL THE TIME in our diet. Food is LOADED with chemicals that affect our consciousness, and our bodies produce dmt, and many other psychedelics internally as well.

The whole "do it yourself" route (i.e. meditation) is good and all that. But your only limiting yourself if you choose one route over the other. A person who only dabbles into psychedelics is limiting themselves, just as a person who only dabbles into meditation is limiting themselves. They could get much farther if they explored both avenues of human experience.

If you think psychedelics are unnatural, look at the thousands of animal species that consume mind altering plants/chemicals for valid reason in they're natural habitat. These things are medicines, and this has been verified recently by the countless new studies being done.
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bump to read later

Thanks bro
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And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right?

Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level.

You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants.
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bump to read later

Thanks bro
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no problemo, happy to share
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looks like an edited version of the book will be out in a couple months
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And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right?

Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level.

You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants.
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I can vouch that meditating will not, in any way shape or form, EVER gey you as far as smoking a huge rip of DMT. You might THINK you get close. but if you're still thinking, instead of having a universal/cosmic download from a supernatural insectoid/archon type god, you're nowhere NEAR where you should be.


DMT is produced when you meditate, for sure, but smoking it will get you to places you could NEVER get, even if you were meditating 24/7 for your entire life.
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Until I opened the door with an obscure key (the topic of this thread), my meditation was really relaxing but meaningless. Since I've realized my limitations are self imposed through the use of 1-ups (mario style), lucid dreaming and obe are interestingly easy to fall into. We don't have to be gifted, we just need to be open to the possibility that anything can happen.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right?

Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level.

You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants.
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I can vouch that meditating will not, in any way shape or form, EVER gey you as far as smoking a huge rip of DMT. You might THINK you get close. but if you're still thinking, instead of having a universal/cosmic download from a supernatural insectoid/archon type god, you're nowhere NEAR where you should be.


DMT is produced when you meditate, for sure, but smoking it will get you to places you could NEVER get, even if you were meditating 24/7 for your entire life.
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I fully agree

But i should note that it does seem at least slightly possible to build a bridge, of sorts, if you know what i mean. Many can bring hyperspace into they're awareness via 'sober' meditation but it still isn't even close to the full on DMT experience. Its actually more like a lighter dose ayahuasca, in my experience at least.

Anyways, i enjoy both tremendously, separate or combined.. And while i'll admit that it might be a possibility there are 'other' ways to it, i think its best to explore many things.
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another interview posted

[link to www.realitysandwich.com]
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anyone read this yet?
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guess not yeahsure
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guess not yeahsure
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I got stoned when i started reading it(I even have it saved on my Iphone). I have not finished it yet but it does go along with what i understand thing to be very nicely. I am a little more interest in the esoteric level and so fare that only touches on this. Although i only remember about the vegetarian diet was better for our evolution stuff right now and i already know and understand that and i like how they put it into a scientific understanding for the skeptics and ones looking for concrete proof. So yea, Bravo in that respect. Plus i love Terrance Mckenna's work.

And then i started reading this:

Thread: Everything will not suddenly change December 21, 2012...rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition, from one World Age to the next

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 04/22/2012 06:13 PM
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anyone read this yet?
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it reads like the typical new-age vegan extremism crap

nauseating really
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anyone read this yet?
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it reads like the typical new-age vegan extremism crap

nauseating really
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i mean't the book, not the article. The article wasn't put together by the author and the book is nothing like that. Its very well evidenced shit

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