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Message Subject DMT, 2012, species wide brain damage, and ascension
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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And you do realize that meditation produces such affects by altering the chemicals in our brains right?

Its just two means to a similar thing. I'm not saying 'we are the chemical interactions in our brains', or any other sort of overtly materialistic/reductionist explanation, but these things certainly are involved in orchestrating our awareness on some level.

You don't really seem to familiar with psychedelics. Check out the dmt-nexus. Most folks combines various practices (most often meditation) with they're psychedelic experiences. And, go figure, its pretty widely accepted that many of the ancients who developed these various practices also used psychedelic plants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2126195

I can vouch that meditating will not, in any way shape or form, EVER gey you as far as smoking a huge rip of DMT. You might THINK you get close. but if you're still thinking, instead of having a universal/cosmic download from a supernatural insectoid/archon type god, you're nowhere NEAR where you should be.

DMT is produced when you meditate, for sure, but smoking it will get you to places you could NEVER get, even if you were meditating 24/7 for your entire life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1706996

I fully agree

But i should note that it does seem at least slightly possible to build a bridge, of sorts, if you know what i mean. Many can bring hyperspace into they're awareness via 'sober' meditation but it still isn't even close to the full on DMT experience. Its actually more like a lighter dose ayahuasca, in my experience at least.

Anyways, i enjoy both tremendously, separate or combined.. And while i'll admit that it might be a possibility there are 'other' ways to it, i think its best to explore many things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2126195

i've never used hallucinogens. occassionally meditate. and i see and talk to spirits all the time. the creator and i talk daily. i soar with the creator through the universe. i've nothing against yer path, but there are other ways too.
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