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The Fallacy of Bugging Out – Are You Prepared to Be a Refugee?

 
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The Fallacy of Bugging Out – Are You Prepared to Be a Refugee?
another nice article


Many websites, blogs and forums have covered the topic of bugging out in excruciating detail, all under the assumption that this will be a necessary escape plan for many of us when the proverbial shit hits the fan. This notion is predicated upon the belief that escape and evasion, necessary for your immediate survival will be a (likely) event that you must plan and prepare for now.

However, nothing could be further from the real and actual truth. This cherished myth is a deceptive and dangerous notion that has little place in reality. I’ve long held a stanceagainst this notion because in nearly all cases and all situations, this is a very bad idea with oftentimes fatal consequences. Bugging out is embracing the refugee lifestyle – a very bad idea. Refugees throughout history have fared very badly, suffered extreme hardship and deprivation, with many not surviving the experience. There is a far better alternative to this.

The rejection of the “bug out” mythology flies in the face of the so-called ‘expert advice’ and theory being proposed by many websites and authors, who are also very active in selling products and gear specifically oriented around this concept. You could say quite rightly, that there is indeed a agenda at work here, but it is not one in your best interests. Hold onto your pockets and read on.

Bugging out entails leaving everything you are, and everything you own, and everything you use, day in and day out, and everything you cannot carry or transport with you, behind. Not only behind, but inaccessible, unusable and abandoned.Potentially forever.

[link to www.shtfplan.com]
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Just an aside to all of the'bug out to the woods' thing:

Take these words as I offer them....as one human to another...no expectations other than to protect one another from harm and with deep love and respect for every life.

If or when TSHTF, do whatever it takes to make your way to a friendly, established native American Indian reservation. Make peace, make friends.

We will welcome you as a member of our tribe if you contribute and learn our ways. Your bellies will not know hunger, you and your family will be defended to the death by those that KNOW how to defend, and together...with the power of numbers and knowledge, we will carry on.
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Nomadic is the way.
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we need to find a place in the mountains and just hide there
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Op, you are planning on eating us aren't you.


another nice article


Many websites, blogs and forums have covered the topic of bugging out in excruciating detail, all under the assumption that this will be a necessary escape plan for many of us when the proverbial shit hits the fan. This notion is predicated upon the belief that escape and evasion, necessary for your immediate survival will be a (likely) event that you must plan and prepare for now.

However, nothing could be further from the real and actual truth. This cherished myth is a deceptive and dangerous notion that has little place in reality. I’ve long held a stanceagainst this notion because in nearly all cases and all situations, this is a very bad idea with oftentimes fatal consequences. Bugging out is embracing the refugee lifestyle – a very bad idea. Refugees throughout history have fared very badly, suffered extreme hardship and deprivation, with many not surviving the experience. There is a far better alternative to this.

The rejection of the “bug out” mythology flies in the face of the so-called ‘expert advice’ and theory being proposed by many websites and authors, who are also very active in selling products and gear specifically oriented around this concept. You could say quite rightly, that there is indeed a agenda at work here, but it is not one in your best interests. Hold onto your pockets and read on.

Bugging out entails leaving everything you are, and everything you own, and everything you use, day in and day out, and everything you cannot carry or transport with you, behind. Not only behind, but inaccessible, unusable and abandoned.Potentially forever.

[link to www.shtfplan.com]
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Just an aside to all of the'bug out to the woods' thing:

Take these words as I offer them....as one human to another...no expectations other than to protect one another from harm and with deep love and respect for every life.

If or when TSHTF, do whatever it takes to make your way to a friendly, established native American Indian reservation. Make peace, make friends.

We will welcome you as a member of our tribe if you contribute and learn our ways. Your bellies will not know hunger, you and your family will be defended to the death by those that KNOW how to defend, and together...with the power of numbers and knowledge, we will carry on.
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Choices are: Dead, Jail, Assimilation and Refugee. I'm prepared.
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The second you settle you begine to protect somethink that isn't yours.

Own only what you can carry.
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Just an aside to all of the'bug out to the woods' thing:

Take these words as I offer them....as one human to another...no expectations other than to protect one another from harm and with deep love and respect for every life.

If or when TSHTF, do whatever it takes to make your way to a friendly, established native American Indian reservation. Make peace, make friends.

We will welcome you as a member of our tribe if you contribute and learn our ways. Your bellies will not know hunger, you and your family will be defended to the death by those that KNOW how to defend, and together...with the power of numbers and knowledge, we will carry on.
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Nice!
Thanks!
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Survival Acres has interesting commentary but it can't be taken too seriously.

I don't really even understand this article.


You will be leaving behind your job (income), perhaps your family (wife, kids), your home (shelter), your friends (support network), your contacts (other people you know), your bank accounts (money), your credit (ruined), your retirement (pension), your property and everything you own (everything you cannot carry with you), your vehicles (except perhaps one, at least until the gas tank is empty), your future (prospects, employment, credibility, integrity). Don’t forget things also left behind, such as electricity, running water, Internet access, news and information, communications, telephone and even cell service, a warm, dry bed and other ‘essentials’,some more then others.


Yeah?
Of course all this is going to happen in a true SHTF scenario! Whether you're prepared or not!

The New Orleans residents could have benefited from bugging out for a couple weeks after Hurricane Katrina, or Seattlites like me when the Big One destroys the city, or numerous other possibilities.

Blend in your bugout bag with your camping supplies and you have greatly extended your options if things go wrong, and it's fun.
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Nuclear war is coming. "Bugging out" isn't going to protect you from the fallout.

1. Don't live by a nuclear target
2. Don't breath, eat, or drink nuclear fallout
3. After 2 weeks to 3 months you can emerge from shelter
4. Banding together with survivers will protect you from looters, brigands, government goon squads etc. Wolves prey on the weak.
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i did a bug out last year, to hawaii. it fucking SUCKED. and the lady who invited us down, her whole idea of bugging out was to sit in her tent and freak out over GLP 24/7 on her iphone. we were beach camping and she never even went to the beach, or swimming! for months!
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i did a bug out last year, to hawaii. it fucking SUCKED. and the lady who invited us down, her whole idea of bugging out was to sit in her tent and freak out over GLP 24/7 on her iphone. we were beach camping and she never even went to the beach, or swimming! for months!
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This should have its own thread and be permanently pinned

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