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The Secret Of Magnetism - Spin

 
S.T. Beans
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The Secret Of Magnetism - Spin
I'm sharing this information so electrical engineers and physists can see what is right under their noses yet never makes it into the academic physics doctrine.

It's oh so simple whe you understand this proof.

So here it is:

Magnetism is the result of zero point field spin.
Zero point spin is generated by the movement of electrons.

Think of a river flowing with two horizontal water wheels dipping into that river. The river is equivalent to electricity in a wire.

Now naturally since the wheels are on opposite sides of the river they will be rotating in opposite directions. The spin in opposite directions generates your north and south poles at the axis of rotation. The electicity in the wire is dragging the ether field along the wire and creating the spinning eddy currents. the eddy currents are the waterwheels in the river analogy.


So north and south poles are identical in nature. The only difference is that they spin in opposite directions.

Now this is why two south poles or two north poles repel each other. Take two wheels spinning in the same directions and try to touch them together. What happens? They repulse each other. But if you touch two wheels spinning in opposite directions they can touch and spin in harmony. The is why N and S poles attract.

A wire with electricty flowing through it will generate spinning ZPE fields in opposite directions on each side of the wire. The difference between these spinning eddy currents and the water wheels is that the spin of the ZPE fields from the eddy currents on opposite sides of the wire overlap and interfere with each other. The interference pattern the two spinning overlapping fields create are the magnetic flux lines.

This is why magnetic flux lines can't really be changes and are fixed. Because the flux lines are the result of an interference pattern.

You can prove this by representing the opposite spinning fields with radial lines drawn out from the axis of rotation. like spokes on a bicycle wheel. if you overlap the two spinning fields you will see an exact magnetic flux line pattern emerge! there is a animation somewhere of this online of two overlapped radial wheels spinning creating the magnetic flux patterns. though the animator didnt' realize what he is showing. I will try to find and link it.


This explains why magnetic fields are 90 degrees from the electric flow also.
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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Isn't that what Nicola Tesla was saying?

So are you saying anyone can build this? Hmmmmmm

I always thought about trying.
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It would be interesting to see how a magnetic flux line diagram overlayed over the flower of life pattern would line up.
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
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because I'm explaining how regular magnetism works.

From your link

magnets, called monopoles, exist only in special crystals called "spin ice," which can't form regular magnets due to the forces generated by the unique geometry in their crystal bonding structure.



A magnetic monopole = infinite free energy. They are doing some exotic stuff using crytals to get this effect and can't exists outside of the 'spin ice'. BTW I find it interesting they use the term 'spin ice'
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[link to www.youtube.com]


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cheers
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
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Research the article and you will find that the crystal that seems to exhibit this property actually merely separates the 2 poles by a very small distance. Both polarities are still there. I do not find this conclusive that a real magnetic monopole exists.

My personal belief is that electrical and magnetic forces are in actuality the same force orthogonally rotated in hyperspace. These forces do not exist in a static form without matter. Their base form is electromagnetic radiation........ Photonic
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
 Quoting: chaakin



because I'm explaining how regular magnetism works.

From your link

magnets, called monopoles, exist only in special crystals called "spin ice," which can't form regular magnets due to the forces generated by the unique geometry in their crystal bonding structure.



A magnetic monopole = infinite free energy. They are doing some exotic stuff using crytals to get this effect and can't exists outside of the 'spin ice'. BTW I find it interesting they use the term 'spin ice'
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lmao, good catch, OP. That is the exact thing I copied to be pasted back into the thread.

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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 137089


How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
 Quoting: chaakin


Research the article and you will find that the crystal that seems to exhibit this property actually merely separates the 2 poles by a very small distance. Both polarities are still there. I do not find this conclusive that a real magnetic monopole exists.

My personal belief is that electrical and magnetic forces are in actuality the same force orthogonally rotated in hyperspace. These forces do not exist in a static form without matter. Their base form is electromagnetic radiation........ Photonic
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Bump... applies to human relations as well ;) You know me, gotta remind everything is connected, lmao.
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This also explains why magnets are always dipoles.
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How do you explain Monopoles then?

[link to www.popsci.com]
 Quoting: chaakin



because I'm explaining how regular magnetism works.

From your link

magnets, called monopoles, exist only in special crystals called "spin ice," which can't form regular magnets due to the forces generated by the unique geometry in their crystal bonding structure.



A magnetic monopole = infinite free energy. They are doing some exotic stuff using crytals to get this effect and can't exists outside of the 'spin ice'. BTW I find it interesting they use the term 'spin ice'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 137089


lmao, good catch, OP. That is the exact thing I copied to be pasted back into the thread.

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cheers
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Amazing op. Pure genius
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Amazing op. Pure genius
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ty
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It would be interesting to see how a magnetic flux line diagram overlayed over the flower of life pattern would line up.
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It would!

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spin of what?
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fields are mathematic constructs, they don't exist

you are still using bogus scientific models to define a real force. not 'real' knowledge about what magnetism is IMO.
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fields are mathematic constructs, they don't exist

you are still using bogus scientific models to define a real force. not 'real' knowledge about what magnetism is IMO.
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fields don't exists? uhhhhh, ok.

norespect

don't know what your are smoking or what kinda physics you are learning, but in my physics model, electric and magnetic fields, do indeed exist
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spin of what?
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did you even read the OP?
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spin of what?
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did you even read the OP?
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fields are mathematic constructs, they don't exist

you are still using bogus scientific models to define a real force. not 'real' knowledge about what magnetism is IMO.
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WTF?

Brazil, you are an idiot.
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so now a GLP tard knows what physicists have spent their whole lives searching for?

hence i call

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"Fields" are one way to model how electric, magnetic and gravitational forces work at a distance. But it is just a model that allows us to give predictable results. Whether there is something "actually there" is probably not answerable. It depends on what is meant by "something" and what is meant by "there".

but it doesn't matter. the meaning of 'existence' is also not very well defined, and thus my previous affirmation thaT FIELDS DO not exist was stupid.

what exists anyway?
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This is way oversimplified.
Let me give you an example.

Take two pieces of aluminium and spin them in opposite directions. You will STILL not have any magnetism.

If your theory was true, you would find magnetism in non-ferrous metals as well as ferrous metals but you do not.
Fail.
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Magnets: How the fuck do they work?

Now we know, thx OP
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Most knowledge is not unknown, it's suppressed. Science is led into roads without end on purpose.

Everyone wants the power but few can handle it.
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Ok, sounds like a decent hypothesis to me. How would this be useful from an applied tech standpoint? Any Ideas?
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Maxwell equations for point:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

1)div(D)=q
2)div(B)=0
3)-rot(E)=dB/dt
4)rot(H)=J+dD/dt
Where
Magnetic field B=u*H
Electric displacement field D=e*E

Take 3 and 4 equations for rotor or curl, these represent rotation density for magnetic and electric field. It is possible to make many analogies with water, air, etc.
Now eddy current can only appear from changing magnetic field eq. 3. First of all with eddy currents from alternating current and magnetic field, you get "skin effect", when current density decreases with depth inside wire. It would be direct consequence of magnetic field interacting with charges in wire, or of those wheels in analogy and eddy currents in the wire itself eq 3.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

With constant current there is no eddy current and magnetic field is constant. If you take into account that this field is caused by many finite charges traveling in a wire, you get shot noise, that should be consistent with all interferences, fluctuations in magnetic field. Is it, considering this analogy?

Once you can have magnetic monopole or magnetic charge, Maxwell equations become symmetric:
1)div(D)=q
2)div(B)=qm
3)-rot(E)=Jm+dB/dt
4)rot(H)=J+dD/dt
Where magnetic charge density qm and magnetic current density Jm appear.
It may mean possibility of DC transformer and many other exciting applications, but free energy is not among them.

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