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The Secret Of Magnetism - Spin

 
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I don't understand any of that shit.

Just build me something that'll get me free energy forever so we can stop being slaves.

Thanks.
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I don't understand any of that shit.

Just build me something that'll get me free energy forever so we can stop being slaves.

Thanks.
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^^this
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Yes yes yes.

And get this.

Time is that same spin from the center of the galaxy.

XD XD XD
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Don't speak such truths OP. TPTB don't want the average guy figuring out how to build a zero point energy generator. but you are giving them clues!!!! SSSShhhhhhhhhh before you are hunted down by the oil companies!

, the researchers were able to observe how individual bits of quantum mechanical magnetization known as “spin” behaved


The Secret Life of Magnets
[link to jila.colorado.edu]

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..., the researchers were able to observe how individual bits of quantum mechanical magnetization known as “spin” behaved


The Secret Life of Magnets
[link to jila.colorado.edu]
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Walter Bowman Russell knew.
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This is way oversimplified.
Let me give you an example.

Take two pieces of aluminium and spin them in opposite directions. You will STILL not have any magnetism.

If your theory was true, you would find magnetism in non-ferrous metals as well as ferrous metals but you do not.
Fail.
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THIS statement needs to be appropriately answered if you are for real OP.Thanks dude.
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you don't just spin random objects to get a magnetic field. stop being an idiot.
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Don't speak such truths OP. TPTB don't want the average guy figuring out how to build a zero point energy generator. but you are giving them clues!!!! SSSShhhhhhhhhh before you are hunted down by the oil companies!

, the researchers were able to observe how individual bits of quantum mechanical magnetization known as “spin” behaved


The Secret Life of Magnets
[link to jila.colorado.edu]


 Quoting: PhD In Physics 13656875


this is amazing. if you could reduce the coherence with a laser, nullifying the magnetism, it would then be possible to increase the coherence, and thus magnetism as well, no? perhaps one could even induce a magnetic state in a normally non-magnetic medium?
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Don't speak such truths OP. TPTB don't want the average guy figuring out how to build a zero point energy generator. but you are giving them clues!!!! SSSShhhhhhhhhh before you are hunted down by the oil companies!

, the researchers were able to observe how individual bits of quantum mechanical magnetization known as “spin” behaved


The Secret Life of Magnets
[link to jila.colorado.edu]


 Quoting: PhD In Physics 13656875


this is amazing. if you could reduce the coherence with a laser, nullifying the magnetism, it would then be possible to increase the coherence, and thus magnetism as well, no? perhaps one could even induce a magnetic state in a normally non-magnetic medium?
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no. think of the laser as a gun. you can point it at any machine and make it not work. but it doesn't mean you can point it at something and make it work. its destructive not constructive.
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Don't speak such truths OP. TPTB don't want the average guy figuring out how to build a zero point energy generator. but you are giving them clues!!!! SSSShhhhhhhhhh before you are hunted down by the oil companies!

, the researchers were able to observe how individual bits of quantum mechanical magnetization known as “spin” behaved


The Secret Life of Magnets
[link to jila.colorado.edu]


 Quoting: PhD In Physics 13656875


this is amazing. if you could reduce the coherence with a laser, nullifying the magnetism, it would then be possible to increase the coherence, and thus magnetism as well, no? perhaps one could even induce a magnetic state in a normally non-magnetic medium?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311324


no. think of the laser as a gun. you can point it at any machine and make it not work. but it doesn't mean you can point it at something and make it work. its destructive not constructive.

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fair enough.

i've had visions of various electric motors/generators for a long time, since i started getting into this stuff as a teenager. i've always visualized spinning fields, and tended to try to fit that into how the magnets would move. the stationary magnets have been spinning all along... i feel like the moment where the word you want to use is on the tip of your tongue, but can't quite get it, but it's with a visualization of the device instead.
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MAGNETS, HOW DO THEY WORK?

>academic physics doctrine

Excuse, dear idiot...
... the difference between "Doctrine" and "Science", is that Science is open to anything that can prove itself.
Since you don't even have a scientific theory (remember, the word theory in Science is different than the term used colloquially), you're going to have to show your work.
You're just making statements based on someone else's theories... theories that have very little to do with magnetism (weak-force), and more to do with macro-gravity (strong-force).

So, where is your proof?
Self-referencing statements are not proof.
We need external independently verifiable testable data.
So cough it up.
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It would be interesting to see how a magnetic flux line diagram overlayed over the flower of life pattern would line up.
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I am not worthy...
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That sounds cool for electro magnetisim.

Where is the electron flow in a standard bar magnet, a toroid magnet, or a horseshoe magnet.

Or any material that has been magnetized?
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That sounds cool for electro magnetisim.

Where is the electron flow in a standard bar magnet, a toroid magnet, or a horseshoe magnet.

Or any material that has been magnetized?
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05/15/2012 03:43 AM
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FUCKIN' MAGNETS!

HOW DO THEY WORK !?
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Maybe I missed something in the OP 's post/logic ... but if the wheels are on opposite shores, and the river's current is going in one direction, then the wheels will therefore spin in the SAME direction, NOT in opposite directions.
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... Faulty logic and the OP cannot even spell "physicist" correctly.
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the OP appears to be saying that magnetic flux lines have a property of spin.

and appears to be throwing around the term ZPE in a way that is meaningless.


tell you what, how about one of you home tinkerers that understands the mysteries of the universe go build a free energy machine, but don't tell anyone. just set it in the basement and pump electricity back to the grid. sit at home and collect checks from the power company. use this cash to finance some other energy-intensive industrial efforts. sell your wares at a mighty profit because your energy is basically free. slowly, and quietly, start changing the world.
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Spin is the direction or dimension of the 4th dimension.

Observer one - He sees a cube as a two dimensional square with one face

Observer two - He sees a cube as a three dimensional dice-shaped object with 6 faces

Observer three - He sees the cube as a Y-shaped object that has a single point of convergence.

All three are right in their observations, but it conflicts with what each others arguments. However, in the fourth dimension, the spin produces an ever changing object that is defined by infinite points of observation, which are possible by its rotation around the cube.
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the OP appears to be saying that magnetic flux lines have a property of spin.

and appears to be throwing around the term ZPE in a way that is meaningless.


tell you what, how about one of you home tinkerers that understands the mysteries of the universe go build a free energy machine, but don't tell anyone. just set it in the basement and pump electricity back to the grid. sit at home and collect checks from the power company. use this cash to finance some other energy-intensive industrial efforts. sell your wares at a mighty profit because your energy is basically free. slowly, and quietly, start changing the world.
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Uhh, I was going to start selling free energy devices that get their source voltage from solar. The tech is not exactly off the market. The problem is with the smart grid the power company can simply say "no" and send any overunity power that is not being used on a million mile trip to nowhere and convert it all tpo resistance as heat and claim there was no usable net power generated. They can simply decide that your AC isn't going to work more than two hours a day with such a system installed or basically they can make it work out that you do not get any benefit from the generation of excess energy.

Do people really think the power company is going to buy a single watt from you if they can simply waste it and pay you nothing?
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5*cool bump
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Bump... applies to human relations as well ;) You know me, gotta remind everything is connected, lmao.
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indeed.
i've always been powerfully attracted to magnets. just something about them...
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i remember a science experiment when i was a kid, you rub a needle on something(???)and it magnetizes it, then you stick it thru a cork and float it in water and it points north.
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I'm sharing this information so electrical engineers and physists can see what is right under their noses yet never makes it into the academic physics doctrine.

It's oh so simple whe you understand this proof.

So here it is:

Magnetism is the result of zero point field spin.
Zero point spin is generated by the movement of electrons.

Think of a river flowing with two horizontal water wheels dipping into that river. The river is equivalent to electricity in a wire.

Now naturally since the wheels are on opposite sides of the river they will be rotating in opposite directions. The spin in opposite directions generates your north and south poles at the axis of rotation. The electicity in the wire is dragging the ether field along the wire and creating the spinning eddy currents. the eddy currents are the waterwheels in the river analogy.


So north and south poles are identical in nature. The only difference is that they spin in opposite directions.

Now this is why two south poles or two north poles repel each other. Take two wheels spinning in the same directions and try to touch them together. What happens? They repulse each other. But if you touch two wheels spinning in opposite directions they can touch and spin in harmony. The is why N and S poles attract.

A wire with electricty flowing through it will generate spinning ZPE fields in opposite directions on each side of the wire. The difference between these spinning eddy currents and the water wheels is that the spin of the ZPE fields from the eddy currents on opposite sides of the wire overlap and interfere with each other. The interference pattern the two spinning overlapping fields create are the magnetic flux lines.

This is why magnetic flux lines can't really be changes and are fixed. Because the flux lines are the result of an interference pattern.

You can prove this by representing the opposite spinning fields with radial lines drawn out from the axis of rotation. like spokes on a bicycle wheel. if you overlap the two spinning fields you will see an exact magnetic flux line pattern emerge! there is a animation somewhere of this online of two overlapped radial wheels spinning creating the magnetic flux patterns. though the animator didnt' realize what he is showing. I will try to find and link it.


This explains why magnetic fields are 90 degrees from the electric flow also.
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You gotta love crackpot science... one of the more entertaining crackpot studies on GLP.

Rave on man, rave on.
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Isn't that what Nicola Tesla was saying?

So are you saying anyone can build this? Hmmmmmm

I always thought about trying.
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DoubleHelix wow your avitar looks like the eye of God
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Isn't that what Nicola Tesla was saying?

So are you saying anyone can build this? Hmmmmmm

I always thought about trying.
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DoubleHelix wow your avitar looks like the eye of God
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I'm experimenting now.

Try this. Take square or rectangle magnets. And arrange them in 4s. For instance:

N^N>NvN<

Now place these in a circle

N^N>NvN< N^N>NvN< N^N>NvN< N^N>NvN< N^N>NvN< N^N>NvN<

Place about 25 of these groups of 4 until you have a ring.
You will need to glue or tape them together.

Now place a track or a round magnet on this ring. Put a round magnet in the ring and watch it race around the ring continually, picking up speed
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If you take two circles with radial lines coming from the center. (bicycle wheels) and overlap and spin them, the pattern that emerges matches EXACTLY that of magnetic flux lines of a bar magnet.


I have seen this animation before and my God, I never made that connection, but you are correct OP! To me that is the biggest piece of evidence supporting your theory.

Now we need someone to find this animation and post a link to it, because the visual would seal it for people. I really think magnetism is causes by spin now!!! You described in terms the avg joe can understand.
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If you take two circles with radial lines coming from the center. (bicycle wheels) and overlap and spin them, the pattern that emerges matches EXACTLY that of magnetic flux lines of a bar magnet.


I have seen this animation before and my God, I never made that connection, but you are correct OP! To me that is the biggest piece of evidence supporting your theory.

Now we need someone to find this animation and post a link to it, because the visual would seal it for people. I really think magnetism is causes by spin now!!! You described in terms the avg joe can understand.
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