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Is the Vaccine Industry Beginning to Fail?

 
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Here at the Daily Bell, we track these dominant social themes that are used to frighten people into giving up power and control to the globalist institutions that are meant to run the world. We're not sure why the dynastic central banking families apparently want one-world government, but they sure seem to.

And while they're at it, they want control over our minds, habitats and above all, our bodies. Vaccines were a big part of that control. But this meme is falling to pieces.

Turns out, as we've documented, that vaccines were never double-blind tested, for "ethical" reasons. And that the statistics that brought vaccines into force were fudged.

And then there is the extraordinary persecution of Andrew Wakefield, who had the temerity to explain that SOME children might have bad reactions to vaccines.

It is malodorous and immoral for the medical profession to continue to pump children full of mercury and dead viruses (or live ones) when it knows collectively by now that a certain percentage of children will get sick from these vaccines.

On top of it, for anyone who examines the record without bias, the questions about vaccines and their efficacy are mounting daily. Just because the mainstream media – controlled by the same elites that own the large pharmaceutical companies – claim something is so doesn't make it true. Prove it, we say.

They don't, though. They won't. Maybe they can't. Instead, they launch propaganda barrages such as this new World Immunization Week. Here's some more from the WHO's press release:

"Immunization is one of the most successful and cost-effective health interventions. It prevents between 2 and 3 million deaths every year. Immunization prevents debilitating illness, disability and death from vaccine-preventable diseases such as diphtheria, hepatitis A and B, measles, mumps, pneumococcal disease, polio, rotavirus diarrhoea, tetanus and yellow fever.

The benefits of immunization are increasingly being extended to adolescents and adults, providing protection against life-threatening diseases such as influenza, meningitis, and cancers (e.g. cervical and liver cancers) that occur in adulthood."

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Polio vaccines - By 1968, all sorts of viruses were found in vaccines.

Adenovirus, Papovaviruses (there are 120 types of human papillomavirus).

HPV causes essentially all cervical cancer and anogenital warts. HPV is a DNA tumor virus similar to SV40 and polyomavirus), Herpes viruses, Poxviruses, Picornaviruses, Enteroviruses, Myxoviruses and Reoviruses had been discovered.

Additional overlooked viral contaminants included Epstein Barr commonly called mononucleosis and Simian Cytomegalovirus.

Infection with cytomegalovirus (CMV) is the leading cause of congenital deafness, blindness, mental retardation, and seizures secondary to maternal infection and accounts for disease in 40,000 infants per year in the United States.

Simian foamy retroviruses (SV40) were also found and that included the unique AIDS-linked enzyme "reverse transcriptase." The virus numbers were up to SV59.
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There is no proof vaccines prevent disease.
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Polio vaccines - By 1968, all sorts of viruses were found in vaccines.

Adenovirus, Papovaviruses (there are 120 types of human papillomavirus).

HPV causes essentially all cervical cancer and anogenital warts. HPV is a DNA tumor virus similar to SV40 and polyomavirus), Herpes viruses, Poxviruses, Picornaviruses, Enteroviruses, Myxoviruses and Reoviruses had been discovered.

Additional overlooked viral contaminants included Epstein Barr commonly called mononucleosis and Simian Cytomegalovirus.

Infection with cytomegalovirus (CMV) is the leading cause of congenital deafness, blindness, mental retardation, and seizures secondary to maternal infection and accounts for disease in 40,000 infants per year in the United States.

Simian foamy retroviruses (SV40) were also found and that included the unique AIDS-linked enzyme "reverse transcriptase." The virus numbers were up to SV59.
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i've read a lot about the SV40 and the "Dr Mary's Monkey" case regarding biological weapons. Vaccines have always had nefarious subplots since their inception.
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thanks for your contribution to the thread!
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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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LOL, myth? reading a little too much MSM?

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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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[link to www.ageofautism.com]

"The almost unavoidable conclusion is that large sections of the British media have always known that the “Wakefield” prosecution was based on an imposture, and have been holding their silence in contempt of fair reporting and of the public at large, and that these people are much more concerned about their own backs than they are about our children."
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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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LOL, myth? reading a little too much MSM?

[link to www.whale.to]
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Anti-vaxxer propaganda
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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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LOL, myth? reading a little too much MSM?

[link to www.whale.to]
 Quoting: DigitalGoodtime

Anti-vaxxer propaganda
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i'm sure you've taken the time to read all of those sources in that link.
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rofl Andrew Wakefield laugh

Andrew Wakefield: Autism Vaccine Fraud or Conspiracy Victim?
Later studies tried to replicate Wakefield's findings, but could not. Debate raged about the root causes of autism.
[link to www.cbsnews.com]

How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed
Wakefield, now 54, who called no witnesses, was branded “dishonest,” “unethical,” and “callous.” Walker-Smith, now 74, the senior clinician in the project, was found to have presided over “high risk” research without clinical indication or ethical approval. The developmentally challenged children of often vulnerable parents were discovered to have been treated like the doctors’ guinea pigs.
[link to www.bmj.com]

Medical fraud revealed in discredited vaccine-autism study
Scientists around the world diligently tried to reproduce the findings but never found any evidence of a link between MMR vaccine and autism.
[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

The Autism Vaccine Fraud: Dr. Wakefield's Costly Lie to Society
By 2008, measles has become endemic for the first time in the U.K., and the U.S. reported the most cases since 1996. And it's not just measles. There have been several outbreaks of childhood diseases in recent years, many of them either in low-vaccinated communities or when one unvaccinated child was infected and exposed others.
[link to www.dailyfinance.com]

Retracted autism study an 'elaborate fraud,' British journal finds
Wakefield has been unable to reproduce his results in the face of criticism, and other researchers have been unable to match them. Most of his co-authors withdrew their names from the study in 2004 after learning he had had been paid by a law firm that intended to sue vaccine manufacturers -- a serious conflict of interest he failed to disclose.
[link to www.cnn.com]


"Piltdown" medicine: Andrew Wakefield's scientific fraud was worse than previously thought
As bad as the findings were that Wakefield had committed scientific fraud, it turns out that it was even worse than the original reports indicated. A few hours ago, the British Medical Journal (BMJ) published an analysis of the scientific fraud committed by Wakefield, fraud that journalist Brian Deer likens in an accompanying editorial to the Piltdown Man. The articles are:
[link to scienceblogs.com]
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what's up with all the pro-vax ppl lately?
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what's up with all the pro-vax ppl lately?
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We believe in the results of numerous, peer-reviewed, reproducible scientific studies and the expertise of doctors and researchers who have years of study, training and FAR more experience than any of us do, rather than the false claims of a few wingnuts and the numerous claims of anectdotal evidence. Basically, we accept scientific facts and logic over fear.
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because the vaccines companies pay shills to type in bs in forums like this
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what's up with all the pro-vax ppl lately?
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We believe in the results of numerous, peer-reviewed, reproducible scientific studies and the expertise of doctors and researchers who have years of study, training and FAR more experience than any of us do, rather than the false claims of a few wingnuts and the numerous claims of anectdotal evidence. Basically, we accept scientific facts and logic over fear.
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yet we've shown time and again that most pro-vaccine studies are biased.

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Lol, Wakefield was persecuted mostly for making claims beyond even his own research didn't show let alone prove, which itself was limited. But don't let tiny facts get in the way of a good myth.
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LOL, myth? reading a little too much MSM?

[link to www.whale.to]
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Nope, but I did read his origial paper and the claims he and other anti-vaccine lobbyist made subsequently, which aren't backed by the research. He got caught up in a media driven health scare, enjoying the fame, and forgot he was a scientist. Sad really.
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2033927 you are a liar and a shill.

I have read all the Wakefield research. He is correct. I am a medical researcher for 40 years.
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rofl Andrew Wakefield laugh

How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed.
Wakefield, now 54, who called no witnesses, was branded “dishonest,” “unethical,” and “callous.” Walker-Smith, now 74, the senior clinician in the project, was found to have presided over “high risk” research without clinical indication or ethical approval. The developmentally challenged children of often vulnerable parents were discovered to have been treated like the doctors’ guinea pigs.
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Dr Wakefield had his medical license taken away. and yet Dr Matthew Isreal is still practicing medicine. wheres the outcry from the medical community agaist Dr Isreal? where is the MSM's condemnation of Dr Isreal? “unethical,” and “callous.” “high risk” research without clinical indication or ethical approval. The developmentally challenged children of often vulnerable parents were discovered to have been treated like the doctors’ guinea pigs. all this applies to dr isreal.

Dr Isreal is in charge of Judge Rotenberg Educational Center, where develepmentally challenged kids get electroshocked in Wizard of Oz settings.
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Israel is a member of the chosen tribe. No harm will come to them.
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2033927 you are a liar and a shill.

I have read all the Wakefield research. He is correct. I am a medical researcher for 40 years.
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shills be shillin
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Vaccines and Autism – The Wrong Argument

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"The keys to maintaining any unsafe commercial activity are misdirection, disinformation, big lies, and pervasive propaganda. To be effective, the commercial interests use persons whom the public trusts. These spokespersons then promote the activity. They lie about its risks. They portray an activity that is less than safe as not only safe but also desirable. In the place of proof of safety, these propagandists invariably tout the "lack of evidence of harm". In addition, the promoters of an unsafe activity do all they can to bury studies that question the activity’s safety under an avalanche of 'recognized' studies that are peddled as showing 'no evidence of harm'. Those who benefit from the commercial activity also do all they can to discredit those persons who dare to publish studies that question the safety of the activity. Further, they use their wealth to buy other "experts" to refute any link between the activity and the harm that it inflicts on the 'general public'."
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what's up with all the pro-vax ppl lately?
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We believe in the results of numerous, peer-reviewed, reproducible scientific studies and the expertise of doctors and researchers who have years of study, training and FAR more experience than any of us do, rather than the false claims of a few wingnuts and the numerous claims of anectdotal evidence. Basically, we accept scientific facts and logic over fear.
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Depends on who is reviewing. I've seen pretty crappy studies get published and kept good ones out to maintain status qoa.
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2033927 you are a liar and a shill.

I have read all the Wakefield research. He is correct. I am a medical researcher for 40 years.
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Apparently, you haven't figured out why we need so many vaccines...

Vitamin D deficiency...

Not that I believe vaccines directly causes autism but they probably make the symptoms worse.

Anyway, my bet for true cause of autism is vitamin D deficiency. Your body converts vitamin D into a powerful hormone called calcitriol which acts as genetic regulator which makes sure your body function properly. When given enough vitamin D daily, your immune system will be functioning optimally. That's why it is so effective against flu, cold, etc. And you need vitamin D for proper brain development in the womb...

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

A study showed that pregnant mothers need 4,000 IU of vitamin D a day to reduce birth complications. Compare that to only 600 IU by gov't. Another study showed that lactating mothers needed 6,400 IU a day to be able to produce vitamin D rich breast milk to keep babies healthy.

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