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The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)

 
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I'll give you people a hint, since nobody reads this anyways.

The universe at its most.. uhhh lets say for your thinking, "smallest section"

One single dimension. A point



Your scientists can start from there.
THINK ABOUT THIS!

The universe created life to be observed, without an observer, it never existed. So it is a mathematical proof that the universe created life.
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super thread!
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
What if you could remove yourself from time
speed would = distance

without the need for quantum whatever
how to free yourself from time?
Supose you could create a magnetic bubble to sheild yourself from space/time
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When you think about it
Time is the limiting factor to any objects speed
it would also mean if you wernt in space/time you wouldnt have to comtend with the g forces either
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ok, the reason why Einstein's rosen bridge theory doesn't work (existence of wormholes and why they are so unstable) is because one cannot bend/fold space and then travel thru from A to B. moving space and then travel in a linear fashion is the wrong idea. if you want to walk thru walls or travel to far reaches of space you must accomplish sub-atomic super-positioning and then one can be in A and B (an in neither place) all at the same time. this offers both the abiloity to "travel" and stabilize the destination and the time it is when you are positioned there and then re-positioned back here. time, in this scenario, is completely irrelevant.

yeah, i have thoughts like this. no, i'm not insane.

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lol
you awoke clever this morning tounge
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Salt, I hate to disappoint you but:

Year 1958, Bell proved in his "bells theorem" that wormholes do indeed exist. Albeit tiny. How did he do this? Quantum tunneling.
A photon was split, one side went via radar, from point a to point b.
The other side went via a solid block of metal, which should have created more resistance.
What happened? The block signal got there BEFORE the signal via radar.
What does this mean? That the signal through the block used TINY wormholes to go faster than light.
Sorry.
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Hi OP,

The problem you are talking about has been solved by a book - A MUST-READ - The Science of Extraterrestrials :

IT'S FREE TO READ AND DOWNLOAD IN ENGLISH :

[link to www.scribd.com]

There is a thread about it (read it until the end):

Thread: THE SCIENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS: UFO's EXPLAINED AT LAST - FREE EBOOKS IN FRENCH, SPANISH & CHINESE/FREE ARTICLES AND BOOKS BY AUTHORS

Quantum entanglement is just about ONE PARTICLE SEEN FROM ANOTHER SPACE-TIME FRACTAL. Hence, two particles observed, or more.

Here is the content :

INTRODUCTION

PART 1: TIME FOR REFLECTION

Introduction to the time phenomenon
Experiments that raise questions
Ufology: an ambivalent world
The non-debate
Our blind spots
Progress means a better perception of reality
Scientific culture or the cause of errors
Time versus materialism
The instruments that shape us
Science or stage?
Tomorrow is another day
Science without consciousness is the ruin of the soul
Seeing is not foreseeing
Representation and reality
Free at last?
The proof or the inferno of error
The market of theories
Time, an answer to space
To unite or to separate?
Reality put to the test
Mathematician or creator of the universe
Let us take time to think about it
Time for theories
Parmenides or Heraclitus?
The time of infinities
Is the beauty of the world symmetrical?
Eternity or motion? Causality put to the test
What do the stars tell us about time?
The metaphysics of space-times
Time quakes in space
Alice in fractal land
The axioms of 3D time


PART 2: TIME FOR EXPLANATIONS

Personal growth through understanding
Infinite piano symphony
Space and time: beneath the cobblestones lies freedom
Absolute relativity, or the end of the quest
Time is energy
Towards a new formalism
Constraint and freedom: from separation to oneness . .
3D time: unreal
We are God!
God is very discrete, and so are ETs
Shedding new light on science
The secret life of atoms
The soft sciences: weightier than billions of suns
The holographic universe or the reality of dreams
ST or divine millefeuilles
Consciousness creates the world
All is one and one is all
No, it is not a dream
The ones we call ETs
The causal function: the future of science
The source of disinformation

CONCLUSION

ENDNOTES


Have a good reading.
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awesome! thanks!
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God is there Salt. You won't find him/her in someone else's reality, you will only find him/her in your own.
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hmmm, why would you say that?
 Quoting: Salt


Science can lead us to many conclusions, some more significant than others and some that will remain forever theory. Ask a mathematician what the last decimal place in pi is and they will have no answer, yet we use mathematics to offer proofs in all of science. The infinite surrounds us, but sometimes logic confuses that fact. We will continue to search, it is our nature. I don't think we are meant to know all the answers in this life, but rather to seek and learn, to make choices, to grow both spiritually and intellectually. We are energy yet to be observed by ourselves or the universe and all possibilities remain open.

To answer your question, just something I felt you might need reminded of as you seek your truth.

hf
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well said...
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Mutliverse and M theory...2nd law of thermodynamics...it explains it all...all of it.we're almost there. But don't crap on Einstien, look what he was working with....hell, even Hawking has light-years more computing at his hands (head, no pun intended)...not bad for a dude with some crazy effin hair ehh?

So assume we find the higgs boson...figure a bit more out...I'd like to see the fractal then focused on...then we can start to put it all together and start teaching the masses the correct versions......

And damn dude...dino egg thread went evolution vs. creationism mad quick.....lol...hope this doesn't go there....peace out, love all...Masshole out!yoda
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m theory, multiverse, superposition dynamics... that's the answer to maybe everything, who knows.

i don't disregard Einstein. he launched this line of thinking in the first place. i wish he was here today. he'd have the puzzle solved, i'm sure.

not sure there is an higgs boson. that suggests there is a beginning to something that is eternal and always just "was"
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Ah but we have seen space bend - around strong gravity wells we witness the 'bending' of space and time.

Just because humans haven't figured out a way to create gravity without mass doesn't mean it isn't impossible to bend space.
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its not impossible to bend space. its impossible to do it in a stable, calculated way for a precise destination.
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super thread!
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hf
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When you think about it
Time is the limiting factor to any objects speed
it would also mean if you wernt in space/time you wouldnt have to comtend with the g forces either
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logically thinking.... if time is the problem, then eliminate it from the equation. one of the points of this thread.
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What if you could remove yourself from time
speed would = distance

without the need for quantum whatever
how to free yourself from time?
Supose you could create a magnetic bubble to sheild yourself from space/time
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i think time is an illusion anyway.

quantum superposition reveals this.
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ok, the reason why Einstein's rosen bridge theory doesn't work (existence of wormholes and why they are so unstable) is because one cannot bend/fold space and then travel thru from A to B. moving space and then travel in a linear fashion is the wrong idea. if you want to walk thru walls or travel to far reaches of space you must accomplish sub-atomic super-positioning and then one can be in A and B (an in neither place) all at the same time. this offers both the abiloity to "travel" and stabilize the destination and the time it is when you are positioned there and then re-positioned back here. time, in this scenario, is completely irrelevant.

yeah, i have thoughts like this. no, i'm not insane.

[link to www.krioma.net]

[link to www.physicsoftheuniverse.com]
 Quoting: Salt


lol
you awoke clever this morning tounge
 Quoting: aether


baby, i was born clever. lmao
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Hi OP,

The problem you are talking about has been solved by a book - A MUST-READ - The Science of Extraterrestrials :

IT'S FREE TO READ AND DOWNLOAD IN ENGLISH :

[link to www.scribd.com]


Have a good reading.
 Quoting: the science of ETs 1483451


awesome! thanks!
 Quoting: Salt


YOU ARE WELCOME.


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ok, the reason why Einstein's rosen bridge theory doesn't work (existence of wormholes and why they are so unstable) is because one cannot bend/fold space and then travel thru from A to B. moving space and then travel in a linear fashion is the wrong idea. if you want to walk thru walls or travel to far reaches of space you must accomplish sub-atomic super-positioning and then one can be in A and B (an in neither place) all at the same time. this offers both the abiloity to "travel" and stabilize the destination and the time it is when you are positioned there and then re-positioned back here. time, in this scenario, is completely irrelevant.

yeah, i have thoughts like this. no, i'm not insane.

[link to www.krioma.net]

[link to www.physicsoftheuniverse.com]
 Quoting: Salt


lol
you awoke clever this morning tounge
 Quoting: aether


baby, i was born clever. lmao
 Quoting: Salt


i noticed that

your boosted interaction with our plasmoids appears to be settling thus complementing your natural wonder that is you

i like it tounge
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relevant:

Two contrasting viewpoints on time divide many prominent philosophers.

One view is that time is part of the fundamental structure of the universe, a dimension in which events occur in sequence. Sir Isaac Newton subscribed to this realist view, and hence it is sometimes referred to as Newtonian time. Time travel, in this view, becomes a possibility as other "times" persist like frames of a film strip, spread out across the time line.

The opposing view is that time does not refer to any kind of "container" that events and objects "move through", nor to any entity that "flows", but that it is instead part of a fundamental intellectual structure (together with space and number) within which humans sequence and compare events.

This second view, in the tradition of Gottfried Leibniz and Immanuel Kant, holds that time is neither an event nor a thing, and thus is not itself measurable nor can it be travelled.
 Quoting: observation

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Thread: The VORTEX (Page 3)
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Hi. Are you in your vortex yet?
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I think it comes and goes... 1dunno1
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if you stay in it within our present environment it fucks with to many people thus short spins are the norm LOL
 Quoting: aether


think about it, what does spin tell us
variable velocity
thus if you increase coherently your velocity of thought (altered state) you "get" the faster than light information that forms and sustains our light speed material environment

in doing so you by default respond to the information you are receiving thus in practice you are responding to that which has yet to occur in our light speed environment

one way or another you alter the light speed environment by your interaction which manifests in your either preparing before it occurs, because you adhere to what is to occur or, you in faster than light velocity, deal with what is occurring (on the spot) because you do not desire that which is to occur in your light speed material environment

your ability to do either is governed by your ability to do it in the first place as in:
you can only do it in co operation with our intelligent environment thus how far you go with it is always dependent on your current relationship with all that is not you
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viewing now...
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God is there Salt. You won't find him/her in someone else's reality, you will only find him/her in your own.
 Quoting: danwa


hmmm, why would you say that?
 Quoting: Salt


Science can lead us to many conclusions, some more significant than others and some that will remain forever theory. Ask a mathematician what the last decimal place in pi is and they will have no answer, yet we use mathematics to offer proofs in all of science. The infinite surrounds us, but sometimes logic confuses that fact. We will continue to search, it is our nature. I don't think we are meant to know all the answers in this life, but rather to seek and learn, to make choices, to grow both spiritually and intellectually. We are energy yet to be observed by ourselves or the universe and all possibilities remain open.

To answer your question, just something I felt you might need reminded of as you seek your truth.

hf
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well said...
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Salt did you get a chance to view the vid I linked?
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hmmm, why would you say that?
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Science can lead us to many conclusions, some more significant than others and some that will remain forever theory. Ask a mathematician what the last decimal place in pi is and they will have no answer, yet we use mathematics to offer proofs in all of science. The infinite surrounds us, but sometimes logic confuses that fact. We will continue to search, it is our nature. I don't think we are meant to know all the answers in this life, but rather to seek and learn, to make choices, to grow both spiritually and intellectually. We are energy yet to be observed by ourselves or the universe and all possibilities remain open.

To answer your question, just something I felt you might need reminded of as you seek your truth.

hf
 Quoting: danwa


well said...
 Quoting: Salt



Salt did you get a chance to view the vid I linked?
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i'm sorry, but i haven't been able to get thru it yet. i have some time tonight and will give it a view. (i am a student working on a double major....ugh.... makes for an enormous reading and viewing list.
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Science can lead us to many conclusions, some more significant than others and some that will remain forever theory. Ask a mathematician what the last decimal place in pi is and they will have no answer, yet we use mathematics to offer proofs in all of science. The infinite surrounds us, but sometimes logic confuses that fact. We will continue to search, it is our nature. I don't think we are meant to know all the answers in this life, but rather to seek and learn, to make choices, to grow both spiritually and intellectually. We are energy yet to be observed by ourselves or the universe and all possibilities remain open.

To answer your question, just something I felt you might need reminded of as you seek your truth.

hf
 Quoting: danwa


well said...
 Quoting: Salt



Salt did you get a chance to view the vid I linked?
 Quoting: danwa


i'm sorry, but i haven't been able to get thru it yet. i have some time tonight and will give it a view. (i am a student working on a double major....ugh.... makes for an enormous reading and viewing list.
 Quoting: Salt


I completely understand having been there and done that. Always put your studies first.

Great thread. Thanks
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The sun radiation will kill any life beyond earth's protection.
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So funny, Matter is energy, and it is being manipulated by other energy. End of story.
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It would seem that it is the act of observing (consciousness) that influences our reality.
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yes, advance the vid to approx 4:00 in. it talks about how they tried to measure with a device which slot the one electron went thru, but when the electron was being observed, its behavior changed. it was aware of being measured and then changed its course of action.
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I am not sure the electron changed its behavior, but rather the act of observation forced it to change its course, taking it out of the realm of all possibilities and into the possible.

If you have time, take a look at this video and tell me what you think. (warning it is about an hour long).

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: danwa


I like this explanation.
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Or it could have had something to do with the way he treated his wife. See: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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if you really think about it, traveling distances that are so vast that math can't even calculate it, why would one want to travel in a linear fashion? why would one want to bend the universe, or how could you do it without interrupting other important universal activity? not to mention the fact that the energy needed to bend space, punch a hole through it and then pass through the hole would equate to more energy than what is now in the entire universe.
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You would need to become part of the existing substratum, a form of re-atomization. After all we're made up of most of the universe,we'd become part of what we wished to move through. If we had all DNA strands activated surely this would be childs play
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan





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