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The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)

 
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take it easy, man. its just a discussion, food for thought, brainstorming ideas.

you are reading too much into it.

btw, i am female.
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You are thinking about the right things :)
You just need to master the terms better. It's complacated, but an advise i can give you is to stick to the facts, leave theories to sci-fi. An no need to mix after death stuff to cosmology, that's sorcery.
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take it easy, man. its just a discussion, food for thought, brainstorming ideas.

you are reading too much into it.

btw, i am female.
 Quoting: Salt


You are thinking about the right things :)
You just need to master the terms better. It's complacated, but an advise i can give you is to stick to the facts, leave theories to sci-fi. An no need to mix after death stuff to cosmology, that's sorcery.
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i appreciate your feedback. quantum mechanics and physics are not my fields of study. i am a working a double major in psychology and seminary.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
trying to travel faster than the speed of light is the wrong way to think. it is linear thinking. this is incorrect. in order to go to a place so extremely far away that it is almost beyond comprehension, you cannot go by linear travel. instead of being trapped in time, you have to stay stationery and then super-position yourself at the quantum level.

make sense?


anyone care?
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With quantum repositioning you can be anywhere and nowhere at once. Problem is, however, we are 3-D creatures trapped in a 4th dimension -- that is going in a linear direction.

I say we don't need to bend space either, but I don't say quantum-repositioning like you.

I say 5th - 12th dimension relocation.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
trying to travel faster than the speed of light is the wrong way to think. it is linear thinking. this is incorrect. in order to go to a place so extremely far away that it is almost beyond comprehension, you cannot go by linear travel. instead of being trapped in time, you have to stay stationery and then super-position yourself at the quantum level.

make sense?


anyone care?
 Quoting: Salt


With quantum repositioning you can be anywhere and nowhere at once. Problem is, however, we are 3-D creatures trapped in a 4th dimension -- that is going in a linear direction.

I say we don't need to bend space either, but I don't say quantum-repositioning like you.

I say 5th - 12th dimension relocation.
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to say re-location would mean going back to a location once again.

i would rather think of it as hyper-location
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for tossing out this idea into a glp thread i got this red karma:

"Pseudo-intellectual jackass of the highest caliber."


there are some really bitter people out there.
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take it easy, man. its just a discussion, food for thought, brainstorming ideas.

you are reading too much into it.

btw, i am female.
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You are thinking about the right things :)
You just need to master the terms better. It's complacated, but an advise i can give you is to stick to the facts, leave theories to sci-fi. An no need to mix after death stuff to cosmology, that's sorcery.
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i appreciate your feedback. quantum mechanics and physics are not my fields of study. i am a working a double major in psychology and seminary.
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Consider this. It is about frequencies. Our minds emit frequencies and these can merge and amplify similar frequencies from others, propagating and expanding in our world and our reality.

Fear is a frequency, it is negative and serves to lessen our awareness and consciousness and divides and diminishes our ability to discern truth and happiness. TPTB have all the money and power in the world, yet they need something from us. What is it they need? Aside from the ability to control us and maintain the illusion of our reality, they need our energy to remain fear based. We create reality, if they can keep us in a perpetual state of fear, it allows them to control the creation of reality for their benefit.

We must learn to see past the illusion and use the knowledge that has been hidden from us. We are the creators, not the God creator, but rather the source of our own reality. When we learn to harness our consciousness to create a world based on love and fairness, we will destroy all that they have built and acquired by manipulating our fears. We are quickly awakening and it is becoming more and more obvious that this threatens their very being. Spread your light and your energy will be joined and magnified by others working to make this reality a better place for us all, one based on love and true equality.
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It is amazing... coffee4
Love is not the game, life is.
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When we wake up in this "reality" every morning, we are actually falling asleep, because only in our dreams we are truly awake.
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We are not our body, nor our mind. We are not the voice in our body, nor our head. We are the the here and now, experiencing without any input from either of the mentioned above.
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It's not about others forgiving you, but whether you can forgive yourself.
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It doesn't take much energy to make the wrong decision. But to make the right one, you have to put every fiber of your being to it.
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I know i have a lot to work on. But knowing that there's no hairy ass man in the clouds to judge me when I have little bit of fun on the expense of someone elses ignorance, makes life a whole lot easier.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
The universe is mental. It exists in the mind of the all, this is the first Hermetic principle passed down over millennia. What it means is that conciousness creates matter, modern science (reductionist) strives to prove the contrary. Quantum uncertainty recently shows that conciousness (obseration) affects the behaviour of matter. Nice one Hermes.
The Swordsman
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
The universe is mental. It exists in the mind of the all, this is the first Hermetic principle passed down over millennia. What it means is that conciousness creates matter, modern science (reductionist) strives to prove the contrary. Quantum uncertainty recently shows that conciousness (obseration) affects the behaviour of matter. Nice one Hermes.
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nicely said.
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bump for later read
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The universe is mental. It exists in the mind of the all, this is the first Hermetic principle passed down over millennia. What it means is that conciousness creates matter, modern science (reductionist) strives to prove the contrary. Quantum uncertainty recently shows that conciousness (obseration) affects the behaviour of matter. Nice one Hermes.
 Quoting: The Swordsman


+1
Love is not the game, life is.
-
When we wake up in this "reality" every morning, we are actually falling asleep, because only in our dreams we are truly awake.
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We are not our body, nor our mind. We are not the voice in our body, nor our head. We are the the here and now, experiencing without any input from either of the mentioned above.
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It's not about others forgiving you, but whether you can forgive yourself.
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It doesn't take much energy to make the wrong decision. But to make the right one, you have to put every fiber of your being to it.
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I know i have a lot to work on. But knowing that there's no hairy ass man in the clouds to judge me when I have little bit of fun on the expense of someone elses ignorance, makes life a whole lot easier.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
it is much more simple. they are wrong because you can not bend or warp space. space is not a tangible construct like a piece of paper, it has no physical properties.
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it is much more simple. they are wrong because you can not bend or warp space. space is not a tangible construct like a piece of paper, it has no physical properties.
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Much of it may have the property of plasma, electricity, energy.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
The universe is mental. It exists in the mind of the all, this is the first Hermetic principle passed down over millennia. What it means is that conciousness creates matter, modern science (reductionist) strives to prove the contrary. Quantum uncertainty recently shows that conciousness (obseration) affects the behaviour of matter. Nice one Hermes.
 Quoting: The Swordsman


afro lol
Seriously this is very old thinking. It would make a good sci-fi movie but it does not explain anything, if not making them more complicated. Socrates couldn't have said better...
It get very interesting when you mix the "quantum" word with some (very) old thinking with the pitch line of the observer but whoever wrote this lives in OZ.
The principle of the observer in science is only valuable for relativity(or perception). It as nothing to do with consciousness. Also the word quantum is use every other words these days and nobody can define it in a complete sentence.
Most news writer would be totally baffle if asked for the semantics of what they wrote.

On the other hand, if it satisfy your mind, who can complain :)
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take it easy, man. its just a discussion, food for thought, brainstorming ideas.

you are reading too much into it.

btw, i am female.
 Quoting: Salt


You are thinking about the right things :)
You just need to master the terms better. It's complacated, but an advise i can give you is to stick to the facts, leave theories to sci-fi. An no need to mix after death stuff to cosmology, that's sorcery.
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i appreciate your feedback. quantum mechanics and physics are not my fields of study. i am a working a double major in psychology and seminary.
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hrmm You are experiencing delusions.
Now, tell my about Your Mother....
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I'll no doubt get flack for this, BUT... I find it difficult to lend credence to or pay any serious attention to (or materially participate in) a discussion like this when the originator's intial statement is in error.

What am I talking about you say! The fact that it is NOT Einstein's Rosen-Bridge!!!

It IS an Einstein-Rosen bridge! If you can't get that right going in, what else in your discussion and/or understanding is off base; Since in my experience this sort of mistake is usually made by a pseudo-intellectual (I.E.- someone pretending to be well versed in some area of expertise, while in fact being woefully lacking), I therefore can't get interested enough to listen to/read you. Sorry! Nothing personal, I assure you.
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ok, the reason why Einstein's rosen bridge theory doesn't work (existence of wormholes and why they are so unstable) is because one cannot bend/fold space and then travel thru from A to B. moving space and then travel in a linear fashion is the wrong idea. if you want to walk thru walls or travel to far reaches of space you must accomplish sub-atomic super-positioning and then one can be in A and B (an in neither place) all at the same time. this offers both the abiloity to "travel" and stabilize the destination and the time it is when you are positioned there and then re-positioned back here. time, in this scenario, is completely irrelevant.

yeah, i have thoughts like this. no, i'm not insane.

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Interesting and rational thread friend...as it is clear many (if not most) humans are as confused, conflicting and bipolar as the universe..and therefore capable of creating theories of fantasy...and then spend their whole lives trying to prove and rational and convince others they are right...to then get more followers and believers to consolidate many myths.

One thing for certain it what can be observed and repeated (and not just theorised or specultated).

My whole understanding of the universe is the simple reality of bpolar expression through the random and semi-conditional interactions, harmonies, conflicts, outcomes and recycling of bipolar energy and matter. Which theoretically is infinite in range and scope(within the cycles of bipolar process..i.e. big bang lightand life which eventually secomes to dark matter and darkness until a new big bang happens again).

Most of which can be clearly seen, observed and proven at every - in very and spectrum of galatic and localised activity and evloving life.

Most delusional idiots still believe (..or are pressured and programmed to believe) that there is some great meaning and purpose behind it all..but funnily thats just polarised hierarchal BS...just to keep people inspired, comforted, controlled, or complete confused from going insane (because they are equally bipolar and unstable and so responses are using pretty much bipolar too LOL).

..Not that it matters much
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The universe is mental. It exists in the mind of the all, this is the first Hermetic principle passed down over millennia. What it means is that conciousness creates matter, modern science (reductionist) strives to prove the contrary. Quantum uncertainty recently shows that conciousness (obseration) affects the behaviour of matter. Nice one Hermes.
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!!!
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Humm...........!
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I'll no doubt get flack for this, BUT... I find it difficult to lend credence to or pay any serious attention to (or materially participate in) a discussion like this when the originator's intial statement is in error.

What am I talking about you say! The fact that it is NOT Einstein's Rosen-Bridge!!!

It IS an Einstein-Rosen bridge! If you can't get that right going in, what else in your discussion and/or understanding is off base; Since in my experience this sort of mistake is usually made by a pseudo-intellectual (I.E.- someone pretending to be well versed in some area of expertise, while in fact being woefully lacking), I therefore can't get interested enough to listen to/read you. Sorry! Nothing personal, I assure you.
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pretending to be well versed???

i said five times this is not my field of study, that i was just throwing thoughts out there for discussion.

what a snob. move along. and thanks for the scathing red karma by the way, sunshine.
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I'll no doubt get flack for this, BUT... I find it difficult to lend credence to or pay any serious attention to (or materially participate in) a discussion like this when the originator's intial statement is in error.

What am I talking about you say! The fact that it is NOT Einstein's Rosen-Bridge!!!

It IS an Einstein-Rosen bridge! If you can't get that right going in, what else in your discussion and/or understanding is off base; Since in my experience this sort of mistake is usually made by a pseudo-intellectual (I.E.- someone pretending to be well versed in some area of expertise, while in fact being woefully lacking), I therefore can't get interested enough to listen to/read you. Sorry! Nothing personal, I assure you.
 Quoting: sequeter


pretending to be well versed???

i said five times this is not my field of study, that i was just throwing thoughts out there for discussion.

what a snob. move along. and thanks for the scathing red karma by the way, sunshine.
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Yep. Seems like there are a lot of people who have a pressing need (addiction?) to be snobbish or petty. I guess the need to "feel superior" is strong with this one.
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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Re: The reason why Einstein Rosen-Bridge and relativity theories are wrong. (wormholes and space travel)
What if you could remove yourself from time
speed would = distance

without the need for quantum whatever
how to free yourself from time?
Supose you could create a magnetic bubble to sheild yourself from space/time
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i think time is an illusion anyway.

quantum superposition reveals this.
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Time Is something we defined to discribe an observation. Time does not exist, but the notion of Time Does.
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What if you could remove yourself from time
speed would = distance

without the need for quantum whatever
how to free yourself from time?
Supose you could create a magnetic bubble to sheild yourself from space/time
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i think time is an illusion anyway.

quantum superposition reveals this.
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Time Is something we defined to discribe an observation. Time does not exist, but the notion of Time Does.
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Isn't everything we define just something to describe an observation?
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What if you could remove yourself from time
speed would = distance

without the need for quantum whatever
how to free yourself from time?
Supose you could create a magnetic bubble to sheild yourself from space/time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754267


i think time is an illusion anyway.

quantum superposition reveals this.
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Time Is something we defined to discribe an observation. Time does not exist, but the notion of Time Does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561004


Isn't everything we define just something to describe an observation?
 Quoting: Life and Love


no
we are meant to describe accurately what fits our observation thus we then fit into our universe in a manner that reflects it and us synergisticly

that is the point of our being within it
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i think time is an illusion anyway.

quantum superposition reveals this.
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Time Is something we defined to discribe an observation. Time does not exist, but the notion of Time Does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561004


Isn't everything we define just something to describe an observation?
 Quoting: Life and Love


no
we are meant to describe accurately what fits our observation thus we then fit into our universe in a manner that reflects it and us synergisticly

that is the point of our being within it
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Could you give me an example of something related to time, space, and matter that is not a definition of an observation?

Last Edited by Life and Love on 04/27/2012 09:58 AM
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you ever see a screen?
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Yes, I have seen the screen.(July 2010) Kind of reminded me of a drive-in theater.
Still have no idea how I was at the place that this happened?

And no I have never seen these so called grays and dont want to.

It was a Shinning one that showed me this screen. Or, should I say made me sit and look at it.. As,I did not want to and thought it was all some joke.

OK... That is enough of me sharing in public this BatShit crazy...

Ro111
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the screen prompts me to remember salt experienced a screen
no
her husband and friend experienced the screen while she remained with her then baby, inside their vehicle

i will ask
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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 442)
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you ever see a screen?
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Yes, I have seen the screen.(July 2010) Kind of reminded me of a drive-in theater.
Still have no idea how I was at the place that this happened?

And no I have never seen these so called grays and dont want to.

It was a Shinning one that showed me this screen. Or, should I say made me sit and look at it.. As,I did not want to and thought it was all some joke.

OK... That is enough of me sharing in public this BatShit crazy...

:Ro111:
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the screen prompts me to remember salt experienced a screen
no
her husband and friend experienced the screen while she remained with her then baby, inside their vehicle

i will ask
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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 442)
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all three of us saw the screen

do you guys know something about the screen?

pleasepleaseplease explain
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Time Is something we defined to discribe an observation. Time does not exist, but the notion of Time Does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561004


Isn't everything we define just something to describe an observation?
 Quoting: Life and Love


no
we are meant to describe accurately what fits our observation thus we then fit into our universe in a manner that reflects it and us synergisticly

that is the point of our being within it
 Quoting: aether


Could you give me an example of something related to time, space, and matter that is not a definition of an observation?
 Quoting: Life and Love


well drop time
then what you see may match would you can be

your description of observation structures it to be "airy fairy" to fit your requirement to have flexibility in translation of all things because you have chosen to administer that which has no reality by definition, thus ,observation to you must be something that you alone will claim real despite no other observer agreeing

it fits your chosen vocation

my point is that in the universe of reality not myth observation has a valid place of universality in:
everyone see the same thing thus is free to infinitely translate what is seen into individual expressing whilst all around understand that expression because all around see what they see to express

your point all is observation is correct

why do many see different things in the same object ?
information that forms their awareness does not fit what they are looking at`s reality (informational structure)
thus the return signal from observed object is translated into wrong description (made to fit belief information)
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it`s more than that love and light, it is the word
observation is a Newtonian word limiting the effect to light speed senses of sight and sound
utilizing our faster than light speed senses the word observation becomes redundant because the experience of sensation enables intuitive communication thus one is in contact with that which newton could only observe

yes
replace observation with contact and utilize all your senses





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