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FACT: Kundalini, Reiki is a Demon! Don't Be Deceived!

 
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you sound like Lisa' alter Ego.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


I see you are having a problem with letting go of this thread.

That's okay though, I understand the deception of the devil and it's sad to see people being spiritually abused and not knowing that they are under demonic bondage and sin.

I will continue to pray for all who are practicing reiki to be delivered from this deception and I know many other brothers and sisters in Christ are doing the same. It's not just on GLP that people are praying, there are some in churches too, praying for all of you to be delivered.

I plead the Blood of Jesus over you now and will be in prayer.
:he7:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Please do not pray to your God for me or do a sacrificial request from Jesus for his blood. That is disgusting to have the blood of Jesus spilled over me. Think about what you are saying. I don't want anyone's blood spilled for me.

So incredibly sad that their is so much demonic influence now in the thoughts of Christians.
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wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
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I see you are having a problem with letting go of this thread.

That's okay though, I understand the deception of the devil and it's sad to see people being spiritually abused and not knowing that they are under demonic bondage and sin.

I will continue to pray for all who are practicing reiki to be delivered from this deception and I know many other brothers and sisters in Christ are doing the same. It's not just on GLP that people are praying, there are some in churches too, praying for all of you to be delivered.

I plead the Blood of Jesus over you now and will be in prayer.
:he7:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Please do not pray to your God for me or do a sacrificial request from Jesus for his blood. That is disgusting to have the blood of Jesus spilled over me. Think about what you are saying. I don't want anyone's blood spilled for me.

So incredibly sad that their is so much demonic influence now in the thoughts of Christians.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
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I've heard it said, that usually when a person hates or dislikes someone, it is for one of three reasons:

They either see you as a threat.

They hate themselves

Or, they want to be you.

 Quoting: KoFFee_


You are speaking about Lisa.....for once I agree with you.
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I see you are having a problem with letting go of this thread.

That's okay though, I understand the deception of the devil and it's sad to see people being spiritually abused and not knowing that they are under demonic bondage and sin.

I will continue to pray for all who are practicing reiki to be delivered from this deception and I know many other brothers and sisters in Christ are doing the same. It's not just on GLP that people are praying, there are some in churches too, praying for all of you to be delivered.

I plead the Blood of Jesus over you now and will be in prayer.
:he7:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Please do not pray to your God for me or do a sacrificial request from Jesus for his blood. That is disgusting to have the blood of Jesus spilled over me. Think about what you are saying. I don't want anyone's blood spilled for me.

So incredibly sad that their is so much demonic influence now in the thoughts of Christians.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


:jly9:
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

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Please do not pray to your God for me or do a sacrificial request from Jesus for his blood. That is disgusting to have the blood of Jesus spilled over me. Think about what you are saying. I don't want anyone's blood spilled for me.

So incredibly sad that their is so much demonic influence now in the thoughts of Christians.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
 Quoting: Salt


Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.
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I've heard it said, that usually when a person hates or dislikes someone, it is for one of three reasons:

They either see you as a threat.

They hate themselves

Or, they want to be you.

 Quoting: KoFFee_


You are speaking about Lisa.....for once I agree with you.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


You know I wasn't speaking about Lisa,
you just don't want to give up do you(said with a smile)?

Here, maybe I can soften your heart with a flower:
:flkr:
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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I've heard it said, that usually when a person hates or dislikes someone, it is for one of three reasons:

They either see you as a threat.

They hate themselves

Or, they want to be you.

 Quoting: KoFFee_


You are speaking about Lisa.....for once I agree with you.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


You know I wasn't speaking about Lisa,
you just don't want to give up do you(said with a smile)?

Here, maybe I can soften your heart with a flower:
:flkr:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Hi KoFFee. It's so very hard for some people to let go. I wonder why that is?
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
 Quoting: Salt


Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


98% you say?



Matthew 7:13-14

King James Version (KJV)


"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
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wow, you are relentless. give us a break and stop cramming your stuff down everyone's throat. if you don't like the thread or the OP, then move along.

give it a rest, k?

thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Salt


Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
 Quoting: Salt


Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


i guess you didn't get the memo about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion?

hey... guess what? we don't agree and THAT'S OKAY. if you are taking someone's personal belief and getting all over offended, then you need to grow up a bit.

Lisa didn't call me in for back up. you have no idea who i am or what i believe. i don't always agree with Lisa, and she doesn't always agree with me. But, she is my sister in Christ and I back her bravado in attempting to help people. Her heart is walking in love. whether you can see that or not is beside the point. she honestly is concerned and at least has the courage to go out on a limb, in a place that hates God, and bring the Word to the unbelieving masses.

hey man, if you wanna channel demons and call it good, that is your option. you dont even have to agree with me, and i will still be a content and peaceful person solidly grounded in my own belief set.

the beauty of the world is you are entitled to believe and defend whatever you want. so is OP.

you are acting in precisely the way you are accusing OP.
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Odd, in all my out of body experience i never met kundlini. I however met an angel and perhaps god. Also met myself the soul part, an amazing being of love.
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Odd, in all my out of body experience i never met kundlini. I however met an angel and perhaps god. Also met myself the soul part, an amazing being of love.
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2 Corinthians 11:13-15

King James Version (KJV)


"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ."

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."
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I've heard it said, that usually when a person hates or dislikes someone, it is for one of three reasons:

They either see you as a threat.

They hate themselves

Or, they want to be you.

 Quoting: KoFFee_


You are speaking about Lisa.....for once I agree with you.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


You know I wasn't speaking about Lisa,
you just don't want to give up do you(said with a smile)?

Here, maybe I can soften your heart with a flower:
:flkr:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Hi KoFFee. It's so very hard for some people to let go. I wonder why that is?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Perhaps
Reason
Is
Directly in front of your
Eyes.

However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

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I can't believe I wasted all my time listening to that crap and all they said was meditation is the devil, "trust me". They are misunderstanding souls or worse. But trust me, God fits in my book. lol I'm so sick of zealots and their cults.
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Lisa - How do you really know who it is you are hearing?

Are the words audible or do the thoughts just pop into your head?

If they are just thoughts how do you distinguish your thoughts from these other ones?

People in the following passages claim to have seen/heard GOD.

Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

Exodus 6:2-3 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.


And in other verses Exodus 24:9-11, and Numbers 12:6-8, and
Acts 7:2.

YET GOD allegedly said

Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

AND JESUS allegedly said

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

AND

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

AND

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

AND Paul wrote

1 Timothy 6:15-16 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


So either the people who claim to have seen or heard GOD are lying OR Jesus is wrong.

I don't know if GOD speaks through you or not... BUT the Bible quotes people as having seen and heard him and yet Jesus in 1:18 totally contradicts these people seeing him, and John 5:37 seems to deny both seeing and hearing.

How might this apply to you and what you are saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Unless I missed it Lisa you failed to discuss any of the things I mentioned here.

I'll let people draw their own conclusions.

BUT if the Bible, faith and belief in the book is the source of all people's GODly knowledge then I'm afraid people are in for some big surprises.

Back to the book everyone... I see most of you really know it anyway, even though you would claimthat you do...lol


Sad but true!
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If it was demonic the Pope and Hollywood would be pushing it. If they doing banking and fuck children they must be good right? But healing, self reflection and positive transformation, thats the devil.
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If it was demonic the Pope and Hollywood would be pushing it. If they doing banking and fuck children they must be good right? But healing, self reflection and positive transformation, thats the devil.
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the devil pays close attention to what tempts people and in what way.
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If it was demonic the Pope and Hollywood would be pushing it. If they doing banking and fuck children they must be good right? But healing, self reflection and positive transformation, thats the devil.
 Quoting: rjv 2163721


the devil pays close attention to what tempts people and in what way.
 Quoting: Salt


In evaluating the posts of all on this thread, I am reminded of what I learned from bhakti yoga: "You become like that to which you are devoted."

(Choose wisely)
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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If it was demonic the Pope and Hollywood would be pushing it. If they doing banking and fuck children they must be good right? But healing, self reflection and positive transformation, thats the devil.
 Quoting: rjv 2163721


the devil pays close attention to what tempts people and in what way.
 Quoting: Salt


In evaluating the posts of all on this thread, I am reminded of what I learned from bhakti yoga: "You become like that to which you are devoted."

(Choose wisely)
 Quoting: Life and Love


amen.

meditation is in the bible. Jesus practiced it, recommended it. But, it was meditating on God and His word and being still and quiet so you could hear God. Not trying to astral project your spirit into another dimension.
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Look at your Karma bars how green they are!

Now, look up the word Karma and see what it means and where the word comes from and the origin.
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@OP - I know you think your doing us all a favor, thinking your 'exposing' everything by rejecting anything not relating to Jesus. I've got to agree with a majority of the responses on here. How about you do yourself a favor and find out the truth. You think the occult is evil? How about looking into the word occult. You'll find out that it actually means hidden. In the occult. It comes from the root occultare, meaning to hide or conceal. There's 2 paths to follow, a light and the dark. Not all occultism is evil. This is your programmed brain telling you otherwise. There is constant duality in everything (The Principle of Polarity).

How about attempting to break down the word Religion sometime? Religitards will claim it breaks down to a meaning pointing at, 'to read'. How about looking at the Etymology of the word Religion and finding out it comes from the word Religare meaning to tie back, to hold back, to restrain. Or simply binding in general.

There's an esoteric side and an exoteric side. You've been given the exoteric story that you follow of your particular faith, which is the story that is blatantly out there for everyone, instead of studying the truth.

Exoteric = Intended for or likely to be understood by the general public. Relating to the outside world. External. From Greek word Exoterikos: Outer, Outside.

Esoteric = Intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with specialized knowledge or interest. From Greek word Esoterikos: Within, Into.

Have you ever thought about looking into the Deities who pre-date Jesus Christ and have an extremely similar Exoteric story that Christ has? Here, look into this:
10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus:
[link to listverse.com]

Remember, as stated in the Bible, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." - John 8:32

And to find the truth, your going to have to search for it. "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you" - Matthew 7:7

The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.
"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." - Luke 17:21

This is hinting at unlocking your higher self. Reaching Christ-Consciousness or Enlightenment.

It is rumored that even Jesus spoke about opening the 3rd Eye. Which is that singular eye that everyone should awaken.

Matthew 6:22-23
King James Version (KJV)
22 - The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23 - But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

It is impossible for you to understand the Bible if you keep looking at it and taking it's literal translations. Your keeping yourself on the outside, and holding yourself from looking deeper. The Bible is filled with nothing but symbolism, and allegories. I am not trying to bash you, I just want you to understand.

Sources:
Etymology of the word "Religion":
[link to www.tentmaker.org]

Esoteric,Exoteric, Occult & Religion Definitions taken from Astro-Theology Podcasts from:
[link to whatonearthishappening.com]

Bible Verses quoted from Online Source:
[link to biblegateway.com]
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Very good post. This is the truth. The bible is metaphorical and has everything buried in it. And it cannot be taken literally.

Its a mystical journey, and Christ was a mystic.
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Actually it is you Christians who are relentless in pushing your crap down the throats of everyone on the forum. We are sick of of it. Lisa made this thread, so now she reaps what she has sown.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
 Quoting: Salt


Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


i guess you didn't get the memo about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion?

hey... guess what? we don't agree and THAT'S OKAY. if you are taking someone's personal belief and getting all over offended, then you need to grow up a bit.

Lisa didn't call me in for back up. you have no idea who i am or what i believe. i don't always agree with Lisa, and she doesn't always agree with me. But, she is my sister in Christ and I back her bravado in attempting to help people. Her heart is walking in love. whether you can see that or not is beside the point. she honestly is concerned and at least has the courage to go out on a limb, in a place that hates God, and bring the Word to the unbelieving masses.

hey man, if you wanna channel demons and call it good, that is your option. you dont even have to agree with me, and i will still be a content and peaceful person solidly grounded in my own belief set.

the beauty of the world is you are entitled to believe and defend whatever you want. so is OP.

you are acting in precisely the way you are accusing OP.
 Quoting: Salt


I don't channel anyone...I don't believe in it. Lisa never said it was her "opinions" but rather stated it as being truth (her truth & therefore the gospel truth) I disagree & therefore have the right to state my truth also to counteract her blatant lies (ignorance of the subjects).
You call it bravado in helping people & her heart is walking in love.....I call it attempting to "control others)...a hallmark sign of psychological issues.

The unbelieving masses that hates God??? how do you know who hates God & who loves God???? Do you know what's in the heart of others in the world??? In my journey through life, I have witnessd more kindness, compassion & love from those who never attend a church & never read a Bible. They live the teachings of Buddha/Jesus from their inner knowing. No book required. The Bible and its teachings have caused more dissension, wars & violence than any other such holy book on the planet.

I can hardly wait for a new Earth & a whole new beginning. No more Bible, Qurans or any of these books that are now passing away where they belong. Do you see what religion has done to people. I do. Its time to wake up & take off the rose colored glasses.
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Jesus saved my life and my soul. Stop wasting your time trying to get there yourself by lining up your chakras... Ha Ha Ha Childs play. Go to Jesus like you go to water, and your crown chakra will blow off the top of your head. I really feel bad for people waste there life lokking for other ways when his spirit is right in front of you every second of everyday. I used to be lost and now I am found amazing grace how sweet the sound. Love You All!
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that's a bold statement. are you the spokesperson for the entire planet? or just the non-believing population?

nobody put a gun to your head and asked you to read the thread.

go hug a tree or something
 Quoting: Salt


Did Lisa call you in for back-up. She started the fire.
Yea, 19 pages of 98% tell me that there not many in agreement with your Christian beliefs. As far as reading the thread, she attacked 3 practices that I do, & called them demonic.....a pretty broad statement, I'd say....insulting millions of people around the world at the same time. This is sheer ignorance. So of course I had to respond to put the facts straight. Oh why don't you Christians take your preaching to some other forum. That would be helpful.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


i guess you didn't get the memo about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion?

hey... guess what? we don't agree and THAT'S OKAY. if you are taking someone's personal belief and getting all over offended, then you need to grow up a bit.

Lisa didn't call me in for back up. you have no idea who i am or what i believe. i don't always agree with Lisa, and she doesn't always agree with me. But, she is my sister in Christ and I back her bravado in attempting to help people. Her heart is walking in love. whether you can see that or not is beside the point. she honestly is concerned and at least has the courage to go out on a limb, in a place that hates God, and bring the Word to the unbelieving masses.

hey man, if you wanna channel demons and call it good, that is your option. you dont even have to agree with me, and i will still be a content and peaceful person solidly grounded in my own belief set.

the beauty of the world is you are entitled to believe and defend whatever you want. so is OP.

you are acting in precisely the way you are accusing OP.
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I don't channel anyone...I don't believe in it. Lisa never said it was her "opinions" but rather stated it as being truth (her truth & therefore the gospel truth) I disagree & therefore have the right to state my truth also to counteract her blatant lies (ignorance of the subjects).
You call it bravado in helping people & her heart is walking in love.....I call it attempting to "control others)...a hallmark sign of psychological issues.

The unbelieving masses that hates God??? how do you know who hates God & who loves God???? Do you know what's in the heart of others in the world??? In my journey through life, I have witnessd more kindness, compassion & love from those who never attend a church & never read a Bible. They live the teachings of Buddha/Jesus from their inner knowing. No book required. The Bible and its teachings have caused more dissension, wars & violence than any other such holy book on the planet.

I can hardly wait for a new Earth & a whole new beginning. No more Bible, Qurans or any of these books that are now passing away where they belong. Do you see what religion has done to people. I do. Its time to wake up & take off the rose colored glasses.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


have you read my sig line?
it's strange to me that you see Lisa as trying to control you, but it appears to me that both of you are simply standing on your beliefs. i don't feel controlled when i read your posts. i don't feel offended, nor do i feel vulnerable or threatened. it's interesting that you do, and feel the need to speak for every other person that practices anything other than Christianity.

look, i am not interested in arguing with you. i am probably just as weary of the discrimination against Christians (real ones) as you are to the bible thumping fear mongers who continue to spread false witness.

God looks at the intent of our hearts.

Lisa is not trying to control anyone. She is taught to witness in this way. I don't always agree with it, but i can promise you, her heart is in the right place.

Discriminating against anyone for their race, creed, religion, etc, is wrong... period. stereotyping is just as bad ("all you Christians are alike" etc)
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Lisa - How do you really know who it is you are hearing?

Are the words audible or do the thoughts just pop into your head?

If they are just thoughts how do you distinguish your thoughts from these other ones?

People in the following passages claim to have seen/heard GOD.

Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

Exodus 6:2-3 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.


And in other verses Exodus 24:9-11, and Numbers 12:6-8, and
Acts 7:2.

YET GOD allegedly said

Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

AND JESUS allegedly said

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

AND

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

AND

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

AND Paul wrote

1 Timothy 6:15-16 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


So either the people who claim to have seen or heard GOD are lying OR Jesus is wrong.

I don't know if GOD speaks through you or not... BUT the Bible quotes people as having seen and heard him and yet Jesus in 1:18 totally contradicts these people seeing him, and John 5:37 seems to deny both seeing and hearing.

How might this apply to you and what you are saying?
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Unless I missed it Lisa you failed to discuss any of the things I mentioned here.

I'll let people draw their own conclusions.

BUT if the Bible, faith and belief in the book is the source of all people's GODly knowledge then I'm afraid people are in for some big surprises.

Back to the book everyone... I see most of you really know it anyway, even though you would claimthat you do...lol


Sad but true!
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If people were seeing God and not the Father it must have been something else, yes? The awesome thing about the King James Bible is it has answers to these questions.

We believe God as one but as three, The Father, The Word or Son and the Holy Ghost. One of the three that are in the Godhead.

I would say it was the Word (Christ Jesus) before he became flesh.



I am just a child in Christ Jesus and claim no great knowledge, i do however trust in my Lord and King. He gave us his word and what God would he be if he could not protect the Holy Scripture.

If there any good that comes from me it is not of me but of my God.

Christ Jesus my Lord, my King, my Savior, my God.




John 1:1-5

King James Version (KJV)


John 1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"The same was in the beginning with God."

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

"In him was life; and the life was the light of men."

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."




John 1:12-14

King James Version (KJV)


"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

"Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."




Colossians 2:8-10

King James Version (KJV)


"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."

"And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:"



1 John 5:6-9

King James Version (KJV)


"This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth."

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

"If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son."



So was Jesus called God?



John 20:25-29

King James Version (KJV)


"The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

"And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you."

"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing."

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God."

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."



Philippians 2:5-7

King James Version (KJV)


"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:"

"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"



Hebrews 1:5-10

King James Version (KJV)


"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

"And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."

"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire."

"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

"Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

"And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"
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So to warn those who are walking in death and not life is not love?


To not warn those who are walking in death and not life is love?


Isaiah 5:18-21

King James Version (KJV)


"Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:"

"That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!"

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

"Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!"



2 Thessalonians 2:6-12

King James Version (KJV)


"And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time."

"For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."

"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

'That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."





Pointing to the Word of God and the truth is love, devils and demons do all they can. The Holy Bible is our source to fight against the evil of this world in all forms.



2 Timothy 3:15-17

King James Version (KJV)


"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus."

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

"That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."





Ephesians 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)


"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

"Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."
 Quoting: Oath


This is just your opinion that we are walking in death. We however hold the belief that we are assisting mankind to evolve beyond the ego, to help people in raising their vibration to a higher one & thereby become connected to their Divine Source, the Creator of all...the I AM. I realise that these higher teachings are beyond you Christians & I have no desire to convert you either....unlike you, who continually use this forum to badger people with your threads & even infringing on other peeps threads that have nothing to do with religion. Sadly I have arrived at a place where I now agree with all the other posters who have posted threads saying that they are fed up with the Christian bombarment of this forum. Normally I prefer to live & let live, but not anymore. So hows that prostelyzing working for ya Lisa. Not going so well...is it? You are pushing people away instead of drawing them towards you. think about it.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


The whole idea is to see who is of God and who is not, those who wish to know the truth will search the Holy Scripture and find the real truth. As a true Christian or believer in Christ Jesus, we do not wish to draw the children of Satan to us but away from us.

That is how this Kundalini, Reiki, and Occult following has made its way into the body of Christ to begin with. People stopped reading the bible and became open to the influence of Satan.



John 8:43-47

King James Version (KJV)


"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word."

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."

"Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?"

'He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."





2 Corinthians 6:15-17

King James Version (KJV)


"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"

"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
 Quoting: Oath


Oath: I am no expert on the Bible, so I will not even try to answer your Bible quotes here. Just in the same way that peeps who have not studied the mystical arts should not attempt to offer commentary on them. I very much believe in the man Jesus who by the way during his life on Earth did study in India & Tibet with the Masters. I really have nothing more to say on this thread. I have voiced my opinions because of the outright attack made against us. May you all be well & find peace,understanding, tolerance, compassion in your hearts....because those were the true teachings of Jesus.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


For someone who has nothing to say, you have said an awful lot, and it has been all hateful remarks directed towards Lisa, against Christianity, against the Bible and against the God I believe in.

In fact, I don't recall seeing any post by you that intellectually backs up your conviction that reiki is not demonic.
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
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where's the love?
dont you know, silly one, that Jesus said we could do what he did and more? How do you think we can do more than he did?

when are you going to wake up and stop spreading lies?

Please go with love and stop spreading fear
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How about dealing with the videos and facts and not do ad hominem comments?
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This is just your opinion that we are walking in death. We however hold the belief that we are assisting mankind to evolve beyond the ego, to help people in raising their vibration to a higher one & thereby become connected to their Divine Source, the Creator of all...the I AM. I realise that these higher teachings are beyond you Christians & I have no desire to convert you either....unlike you, who continually use this forum to badger people with your threads & even infringing on other peeps threads that have nothing to do with religion. Sadly I have arrived at a place where I now agree with all the other posters who have posted threads saying that they are fed up with the Christian bombarment of this forum. Normally I prefer to live & let live, but not anymore. So hows that prostelyzing working for ya Lisa. Not going so well...is it? You are pushing people away instead of drawing them towards you. think about it.
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The whole idea is to see who is of God and who is not, those who wish to know the truth will search the Holy Scripture and find the real truth. As a true Christian or believer in Christ Jesus, we do not wish to draw the children of Satan to us but away from us.

That is how this Kundalini, Reiki, and Occult following has made its way into the body of Christ to begin with. People stopped reading the bible and became open to the influence of Satan.



John 8:43-47

King James Version (KJV)


"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word."

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."

"Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?"

'He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."





2 Corinthians 6:15-17

King James Version (KJV)


"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"

"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
 Quoting: Oath


Oath: I am no expert on the Bible, so I will not even try to answer your Bible quotes here. Just in the same way that peeps who have not studied the mystical arts should not attempt to offer commentary on them. I very much believe in the man Jesus who by the way during his life on Earth did study in India & Tibet with the Masters. I really have nothing more to say on this thread. I have voiced my opinions because of the outright attack made against us. May you all be well & find peace,understanding, tolerance, compassion in your hearts....because those were the true teachings of Jesus.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


For someone who has nothing to say, you have said an awful lot, and it has been all hateful remarks directed towards Lisa, against Christianity, against the Bible and against the God I believe in.

In fact, I don't recall seeing any post by you that intellectually backs up your conviction that reiki is not demonic.
 Quoting: KoFFee_

Actually it is you that placed focus on Reiki, & ignoring the meditation & yoga that was also attacked. I have no need to prove anything to you because I know about Reiki, therefore I did not attack it by saying it is demonic. Have you had Reiki & been attacked by some demon during the session???? As regards meditation & yoga....both very old practices, even older than Christianity.....monks & nuns & celibate people who devote their lives to a spiritual practice are now deemed demonic. Incredible.

I came back to the thread in the vain hope of presenting a simple meditation vid for Lisa to listen to, but obviously one should not place seed in front of swine, when they are not ready to partake. I tried.
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Jesus saved my life and my soul. Stop wasting your time trying to get there yourself by lining up your chakras... Ha Ha Ha Childs play. Go to Jesus like you go to water, and your crown chakra will blow off the top of your head. I really feel bad for people waste there life lokking for other ways when his spirit is right in front of you every second of everyday. I used to be lost and now I am found amazing grace how sweet the sound. Love You All!
 Quoting: TRUTH 1614223


Jesus had his chakras all lined up, you cannot just line them up except as you become spiritually mature. They do not open otherwise. Your heart chakra will not open until you know love. Until your heart is filled with love. Jesus used Reiki energy to heal, it is the light energy of the universe.

God's spirit is right inside of you, not right in front of you, no matter what name you use for god. You do not become like Jesus until those chakras are lined up.

when the great energy of God arrives, the standing on the land and water, those that cannot experience their kundalini will not be filled. It has nothing to do with religion at all.
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I'm a Christian, and a seminarian (non-catholic) who practices yoga and meditation.

the yoga is exercise only.

the meditation is being still and quiet so I can hear from God.
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The whole idea is to see who is of God and who is not, those who wish to know the truth will search the Holy Scripture and find the real truth. As a true Christian or believer in Christ Jesus, we do not wish to draw the children of Satan to us but away from us.

That is how this Kundalini, Reiki, and Occult following has made its way into the body of Christ to begin with. People stopped reading the bible and became open to the influence of Satan.



John 8:43-47

King James Version (KJV)


"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word."

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."

"Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?"

'He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."





2 Corinthians 6:15-17

King James Version (KJV)


"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"

"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
 Quoting: Oath


Oath: I am no expert on the Bible, so I will not even try to answer your Bible quotes here. Just in the same way that peeps who have not studied the mystical arts should not attempt to offer commentary on them. I very much believe in the man Jesus who by the way during his life on Earth did study in India & Tibet with the Masters. I really have nothing more to say on this thread. I have voiced my opinions because of the outright attack made against us. May you all be well & find peace,understanding, tolerance, compassion in your hearts....because those were the true teachings of Jesus.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


For someone who has nothing to say, you have said an awful lot, and it has been all hateful remarks directed towards Lisa, against Christianity, against the Bible and against the God I believe in.

In fact, I don't recall seeing any post by you that intellectually backs up your conviction that reiki is not demonic.
 Quoting: KoFFee_

Actually it is you that placed focus on Reiki, & ignoring the meditation & yoga that was also attacked. I have no need to prove anything to you because I know about Reiki, therefore I did not attack it by saying it is demonic. Have you had Reiki & been attacked by some demon during the session???? As regards meditation & yoga....both very old practices, even older than Christianity.....monks & nuns & celibate people who devote their lives to a spiritual practice are now deemed demonic. Incredible.

I came back to the thread in the vain hope of presenting a simple meditation vid for Lisa to listen to, but obviously one should not place seed in front of swine, when they are not ready to partake. I tried.
 Quoting: ohhappydays

I don't meditate, I've never done yoga and I warn as many people as I can about reiki, kundalini and other eastern philosophies and practices. Reiki is essentially a Buddhist philosophy, therefore, it is not of God. Jesus was not a Buddhist.

As I said before, Jesus is complete in all that He is, who He is, what He does, what He can do and is able to do.

Why anyone needs to go to any other source after coming to Christ makes no sense to me other than it's a deception, it is a lie from the devil and is another tactic of his that he has cleverly derived in order to keep people's eyes off Jesus. He doesn't want you to be saved. He doesn't want you to know the Truth. By veering you onto this path of healing and Christ consciousness and surrounding you with myriads of others who do the same while lending you support, he is able to keep you in his realm of deceit.

As I said, I will continue to pray for you, or I'll put it another way--I will continue to pray against the devil's hold on all those who are being deceived.
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
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