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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14903661 05/01/2012 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been into this stuff. I know all about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14903661 Kundalini is something you don't mess with. BEWARE! and you mean what by that? KUNDALINI and Schizophrenia [link to www.indiadivine.org] Warning from a Kundalini teacher [link to kundalini-teacher.com] [link to biologyofkundalini.com] Kundalini syndrome: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Spiritual crisis (also called "spiritual emergency") is a form of identity crisis where an individual experiences drastic changes to their meaning system (i.e., their unique purposes, goals, values, attitude and beliefs, identity, and focus) typically because of a spontaneous spiritual experience. A spiritual crisis may cause significant disruption in psychological, social and occupational functioning. Among the spiritual experiences thought to lead to episodes of spiritual crisis or spiritual emergency are psychiatric complications related to existential crisis, mystical experience, near-death experiences, Kundalini syndrome, paranormal experiences, religious ecstasy and meditation or other spiritual practices (Grof & Grof, 1989; Turner, Lukoff, Barnhouse, & Lu, 1995). [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Psych User ID: 903456 05/01/2012 08:08 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So only a handful are decent and the rest is evil? You see, this condescending attitude all the time is why a lot of people dislike you. You and I have gone over this in the past. You should really tone it down, a lot. You condemn everyone who doesn't agree with you because you think you hold the ultimate truth, but you don't. And don't try to pull the 'I am only here to help' nonsense because you are not. This is all about self gratification. You know it, and I know it. |
| 3°Degree User ID: 1547660 05/01/2012 08:16 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So only a handful are decent and the rest is evil? You see, this condescending attitude all the time is why a lot of people dislike you. You and I have gone over this in the past. You should really tone it down, a lot. You condemn everyone who doesn't agree with you because you think you hold the ultimate truth, but you don't. And don't try to pull the 'I am only here to help' nonsense because you are not. This is all about self gratification. You know it, and I know it. ![]() "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" |
| BOWMAN User ID: 1404078 05/01/2012 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus...is watching you.... ![]() ------ "And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick ------------------------------------- Pale Blue Dot [link to www.youtube.com] 2001: A Floyd Odyssey [link to www.youtube.com] Who's In Control? [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| BOWMAN User ID: 1404078 05/01/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mathew 6:22-23 "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" ------ "And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick ------------------------------------- Pale Blue Dot [link to www.youtube.com] 2001: A Floyd Odyssey [link to www.youtube.com] Who's In Control? [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15319845 05/01/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So only a handful are decent and the rest is evil? You see, this condescending attitude all the time is why a lot of people dislike you. You and I have gone over this in the past. You should really tone it down, a lot. You condemn everyone who doesn't agree with you because you think you hold the ultimate truth, but you don't. And don't try to pull the 'I am only here to help' nonsense because you are not. This is all about self gratification. You know it, and I know it. Ok I rarely do this, but... : ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14903661 05/01/2012 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | transcendental meditation (TM) Attorney Anthony DeNaro, former professor of economics and business law at the private TM university Maharishi University of Management, as well as being a former legal counsel to the same institution, described a very serious and deliberate pattern of fraud, and that "outright lies and deception, are used to cover-up or sanitize the dangerous reality on campus of: A disturbing denial or avoidance syndrome, and even outright lies and deception, are used to cover-up or sanitize the dangerous reality on campus of very serious nervous breakdowns, episodes of dangerous and bizarre behavior, suicidal and homicidal ideation, threats and attempts, psychotic episodes, crime, depression and manic behavior that often accompanied roundings (intensive group meditations with brainwashing techniques). Euphemisms are employed to describe essentially dangerous, unstable and injurious behavior. "Unstressing," for example, ...There were meditators who experienced serious breakdowns during and following meditation. MIU and the counseling staff usually opted for banishment in these cases, although their practices often triggered mental breakdowns. Many students who experienced severe and uncontrollable trauma from meditation came to me for assistance and counseling since Jonathan Shapiro and his staff were punitive and hostile in their "therapeutic" approach. [link to www.suggestibility.org] . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7554855 05/01/2012 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell can be a "mind set" which some people are living in. When we see evil, demons, ugliness everywhere, we are living in a self-made hell state. When we refuse to see goodness, beauty & divinity in every being, then we are creating our own hell-state. Our greatest task is to purge our own inner demons, so that we may have clear eyes to see & an open heart to love our neighbor unconditionally irregardless of their race, religion, status. Joy, compassion, kindness, tolerance, understanding will allude us if we do not do the necessary work with our sick minds. Prayer...is asking for guidance, help Meditate....is listening & hearing the guidance/wisdom offered. Contemplation......is to ponder the deeper meaning of an insight given, or a piece of text. All 3 are key to developing a compassionate heart. |
| Apollonius User ID: 2315183 05/01/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | transcendental meditation (TM) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14903661 Attorney Anthony DeNaro, former professor of economics and business law at the private TM university Maharishi University of Management, as well as being a former legal counsel to the same institution, described a very serious and deliberate pattern of fraud, and that "outright lies and deception, are used to cover-up or sanitize the dangerous reality on campus of: A disturbing denial or avoidance syndrome, and even outright lies and deception, are used to cover-up or sanitize the dangerous reality on campus of very serious nervous breakdowns, episodes of dangerous and bizarre behavior, suicidal and homicidal ideation, threats and attempts, psychotic episodes, crime, depression and manic behavior that often accompanied roundings (intensive group meditations with brainwashing techniques). Euphemisms are employed to describe essentially dangerous, unstable and injurious behavior. "Unstressing," for example, ...There were meditators who experienced serious breakdowns during and following meditation. MIU and the counseling staff usually opted for banishment in these cases, although their practices often triggered mental breakdowns. Many students who experienced severe and uncontrollable trauma from meditation came to me for assistance and counseling since Jonathan Shapiro and his staff were punitive and hostile in their "therapeutic" approach. [link to www.suggestibility.org] . When a child enters then exits the birth canal, it is quite traumatic to the newborn, may even be considered a "mental breakdown" relative to what the fetus knew before in the womb. All necessary stress to enter a new world. Lisa, you are me before, and I am you after. Please keep questioning, but please stop judging. I Am. Repeat that to yourself constantly. |
| BOWMAN User ID: 1404078 05/01/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell can be a "mind set" which some people are living in. When we see evil, demons, ugliness everywhere, we are living in a self-made hell state. When we refuse to see goodness, beauty & divinity in every being, then we are creating our own hell-state. Our greatest task is to purge our own inner demons, so that we may have clear eyes to see & an open heart to love our neighbor unconditionally irregardless of their race, religion, status. Quoting: ohhappydays Joy, compassion, kindness, tolerance, understanding will allude us if we do not do the necessary work with our sick minds. Prayer...is asking for guidance, help Meditate....is listening & hearing the guidance/wisdom offered. Contemplation......is to ponder the deeper meaning of an insight given, or a piece of text. All 3 are key to developing a compassionate heart. Very good point. We are the custodians of our own minds and MUST take responsibility for how we perceive the world around us. ------ "And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick ------------------------------------- Pale Blue Dot [link to www.youtube.com] 2001: A Floyd Odyssey [link to www.youtube.com] Who's In Control? [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8470841 05/01/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell can be a "mind set" which some people are living in. When we see evil, demons, ugliness everywhere, we are living in a self-made hell state. When we refuse to see goodness, beauty & divinity in every being, then we are creating our own hell-state. Our greatest task is to purge our own inner demons, so that we may have clear eyes to see & an open heart to love our neighbor unconditionally irregardless of their race, religion, status. Quoting: ohhappydays Joy, compassion, kindness, tolerance, understanding will allude us if we do not do the necessary work with our sick minds. Prayer...is asking for guidance, help Meditate....is listening & hearing the guidance/wisdom offered. Contemplation......is to ponder the deeper meaning of an insight given, or a piece of text. All 3 are key to developing a compassionate heart. Very good point. We are the custodians of our own minds and MUST take responsibility for how we perceive the world around us. ------ Look at this Lisa and decide to get rid of your created demons. You perceive incorrectly so often...... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14903661 05/01/2012 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.suggestibility.org] David Sieveking is a young filmmaker who is a devoted fan of David Lynch. On Lynch's recommendation Sieveking started TM and started making a film about it. During the process of making the film Sieveking began to discover some things that unsettled him and he documented them in the film. When Lynch got wind of what they were he threatened a lawsuit unless he could approve the final cut. What is Lynch worried about? He has a lot more money than the small production company making the film, and because of the attempted suppression the film has only been released in Germany. [link to www.behind-the-tm-facade.org] Excerpt, Side-Effects section: "Not all effects of the practice of meditation are beneficial. Shapiro (1992) found that 62.9% of the subjects reported adverse effects during and after meditation and 7.4% experienced profoundly adverse effects. The length of practice (from 16 to 105 months) did not make any difference to the quality and frequency of adverse effects. These adverse effects were relaxation-induced anxiety and panic; paradoxical increases in tension; less motivation in life; boredom; pain; impaired reality testing; confusion and disorientation; feeling 'spaced out'; depression; increased negativity; being more judgmental; and, ironically, feeling addicted to meditation. "Other adverse effects described (Craven, 1989) are uncomfortable kinesthetic sensations, mild dissociation, feelings of guilt and, via anxiety-provoking phenomena, psychosis-like symptoms, grandiosity, elation, destructive behaviour and suicidal feelings. Kutz et al. (1985a,b) described feelings of defenselessness, which in turn produce unpleasant affective experiences, such as fear, anger, apprehension and despair." |
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| BOWMAN User ID: 1404078 05/01/2012 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ------ "And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick ------------------------------------- Pale Blue Dot [link to www.youtube.com] 2001: A Floyd Odyssey [link to www.youtube.com] Who's In Control? [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14903661 05/01/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can meditation be bad for you? [link to www.thehumanist.org] Back in 1979, when I was living in Pune, India, as a starry-eyed devotee of the infamous guru Bhagwan Rajneesh, something happened that has disturbed me to this day. A man who had just come down from Kathmandu after completing a thirty-day Tibetan Buddhist meditation course killed himself. I had met him the night before, and we'd had coffee together. I don't remember what we spoke about, but he was friendly and didn't appear distressed. But the next day he climbed to the top of the multi-storied Blue Diamond Hotel and leapt off. ....... " .... wish I could say wonderful things about my experience but I can't. I stayed the full ten days, many of them filled with incredible hallucinations, from being inside an egg, to being a bird-like animal with broken wings, to following tunnels through my brain, to feeling completely connected to the universe. No problem, I told myself, it's just sensation. I'm perfectly safe. On the last day of the retreat, listening to the last lecture, I let out a huge scream and fell down." Tristan says he became psychotic and ended up in a psychiatric hospital for several weeks |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11630819 05/01/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife is a neuro linguistic practitioner and Reiki Master. I can assure you that Reiki practiced the correct way is anything, but evil. I can also believe that quite possibly, Jesus practiced a form of Reiki. There are two different types of Reiki Practitioners, ones that realize that the power is within them and the others that rely on symbols and outside forces other than God. My wife took classes, but saw beyond the mumbo jumbo and she practices from a good place. I have seen her help people with life long ailments overcome there adversity and forgive themselves and others to get on the road to recovery. I don't have any opinion of Kundalini other than everyone I now that practices it are still early on their path and looking for a rush. Most of these practices are only a baby step on the path to enlightenment. When all is said and done nothing will get you closer to God other than your commitment to get there yourself. This includes using religion of any kind, even Christianity. This is what Jesus taught. 2000 years later, millions of people are completely screwing up what he taught and are thinking that riding the coat tails of the great master is going to get them to heaven. Remember that Jesus was beyond judgement. He even asked God to forgive those that were killing him. If people wish to practice Kundalini or Reiki, they are potentially only doing harm to themselves. Pointing this out to them is futile. The best spiritual leaders lead by example. Be the light to show them the light. You cannot act one way and teach another. Choose to be as those you are striving to be like. Death cannot promote peace. War cannot promote life. Hatred cannot justify God. In other words OP, as someone once told me, if you think you are so spiritual, you sure don't act like it. |
| BOWMAN User ID: 1404078 05/01/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's really the difference between the words 'prayer' and 'meditation' other than the semantic and cultural baggage that comes with EACH word? ------ "And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick ------------------------------------- Pale Blue Dot [link to www.youtube.com] 2001: A Floyd Odyssey [link to www.youtube.com] Who's In Control? [link to www.youtube.com] |
| KoFFee_ User ID: 1373078 05/01/2012 10:07 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! Senseless rants and revenge is what I see going on here and it's immature and shedding a lot of light on what is in the heart of people. I haven't been viewing this thread since my last post but noticed it kept returning to the first page. My curiosity got the best of me. Why am I not surprised to see who's posting on it? Man's endeavor to try to change something that only God can do--a person's heart. ![]() However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8470841 05/01/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife is a neuro linguistic practitioner and Reiki Master. I can assure you that Reiki practiced the correct way is anything, but evil. I can also believe that quite possibly, Jesus practiced a form of Reiki. There are two different types of Reiki Practitioners, ones that realize that the power is within them and the others that rely on symbols and outside forces other than God. My wife took classes, but saw beyond the mumbo jumbo and she practices from a good place. I have seen her help people with life long ailments overcome there adversity and forgive themselves and others to get on the road to recovery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11630819 I don't have any opinion of Kundalini other than everyone I now that practices it are still early on their path and looking for a rush. Most of these practices are only a baby step on the path to enlightenment. When all is said and done nothing will get you closer to God other than your commitment to get there yourself. This includes using religion of any kind, even Christianity. This is what Jesus taught. 2000 years later, millions of people are completely screwing up what he taught and are thinking that riding the coat tails of the great master is going to get them to heaven. Remember that Jesus was beyond judgement. He even asked God to forgive those that were killing him. If people wish to practice Kundalini or Reiki, they are potentially only doing harm to themselves. Pointing this out to them is futile. The best spiritual leaders lead by example. Be the light to show them the light. You cannot act one way and teach another. Choose to be as those you are striving to be like. Death cannot promote peace. War cannot promote life. Hatred cannot justify God. In other words OP, as someone once told me, if you think you are so spiritual, you sure don't act like it. You cannot practice kundalini, it is risen or it is not. One cannot do anything to raise it, except to become spiitually mature. Those practicing it, then, do not have it. Your post is otherwise excellent. When the energies of the Father arrive, people will raise their kundalini or they won't. Those that did not, have a long wait for another opportunity. FEAR stands in their way. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11630819 05/01/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife is a neuro linguistic practitioner and Reiki Master. I can assure you that Reiki practiced the correct way is anything, but evil. I can also believe that quite possibly, Jesus practiced a form of Reiki. There are two different types of Reiki Practitioners, ones that realize that the power is within them and the others that rely on symbols and outside forces other than God. My wife took classes, but saw beyond the mumbo jumbo and she practices from a good place. I have seen her help people with life long ailments overcome there adversity and forgive themselves and others to get on the road to recovery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11630819 I don't have any opinion of Kundalini other than everyone I now that practices it are still early on their path and looking for a rush. Most of these practices are only a baby step on the path to enlightenment. When all is said and done nothing will get you closer to God other than your commitment to get there yourself. This includes using religion of any kind, even Christianity. This is what Jesus taught. 2000 years later, millions of people are completely screwing up what he taught and are thinking that riding the coat tails of the great master is going to get them to heaven. Remember that Jesus was beyond judgement. He even asked God to forgive those that were killing him. If people wish to practice Kundalini or Reiki, they are potentially only doing harm to themselves. Pointing this out to them is futile. The best spiritual leaders lead by example. Be the light to show them the light. You cannot act one way and teach another. Choose to be as those you are striving to be like. Death cannot promote peace. War cannot promote life. Hatred cannot justify God. In other words OP, as someone once told me, if you think you are so spiritual, you sure don't act like it. You cannot practice kundalini, it is risen or it is not. One cannot do anything to raise it, except to become spiitually mature. Those practicing it, then, do not have it. Your post is otherwise excellent. When the energies of the Father arrive, people will raise their kundalini or they won't. Those that did not, have a long wait for another opportunity. FEAR stands in their way. Just goes to show you how much I know about Kundalini. I just know that most of my friends that speak of it are a bit odd. Maybe because they are trying to show off and don't really understand it. You know when you are truly enlightened when you don't find the need to tell anyone. So true about fear. To me Fear is noise. Everyday is a miracle to unfold. To see it any differently is to live in fear. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14903661 05/01/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Many individuals whose Kundalini has been unexpectedly unleashed DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING, and the prevailing social ignorance about this multidimensional transformative process makes it hard to find medical or alternative health practitioners or spiritual advisors who recognize the symptoms, particularly when they are strongly physical. Many people know that the risen Kundalini flings open gates to all sorts of mystical, paranormal and magical vistas but few realize it can also dramatically impact the body. A large percentage of our old Shared Transformation newsletter subscribers reported long bouts of strange illness as well as radical mental, emotional, interpersonal, psychic, spiritual and lifestyle changes. Over and again we hear stories of frustrating, sometimes desperate visits to doctors, healers, counselors, etc. who neither understood nor were able to help with the myriad pains and problems catalyzed by raging Kundalini." By El Collie [link to www.visionandpsychosis.net] . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11630819 05/01/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's really the difference between the words 'prayer' and 'meditation' other than the semantic and cultural baggage that comes with EACH word? Quoting: BOWMAN ------ One is active, one is passive. Exactly! Prayer is an active form of conversing with a higher being to ask for guidance, ask forgiveness and to give thanks. Meditation is passive in that you are completely clearing your mind in order to see things as they really are. |