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Work is simply paid slavery

 
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welcome to the world outside the matrix of illusion.

just because the prison bars and bricks can't be seen
doesn't mean they're not out there, somewhere, just means
the prison yard is big.

of course the more you cooporate the better your cell.
percs come your way. maybe even get bumped up to
be a guard. doesn't mean you're free, you're still
in prison only worse because prisoners have the
freedom to think the truth, . .guards and wardens
have their mind shackled and chained to the wall
somewhere down in the dungeon of the psyche.

think free.
be free.

all else is illusion.
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Yup
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Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2476972


Silly, in the past, thats when everyone was a rancher, or farmer. And they grew their own food and animals.

Of course with majority not having those skills and livestock and land anymore. Then your scenario would come true.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


You say that like it would be a cake walk to produce your ouw food. Oh, people were JUST ranchers etc. They JUST were.

If it was easier or somehow overall a better lifestyle to JUST BE a rancher etc, people would still be living that way. People migrated off of farms because city life, working in a factory was a better choice to them.

Anyway, we are living in this world, not that one. And the poster I replied to said not being allowed to take whatever we want from the land is slavery. I am saying it is a necessay evil and explained why that is so.

Silly.
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Im not saying it was easy, But then again, its not easy praying that your company has a profitable report and that theres no more layoffs. And you have a mortgage to pay for decades..

City life was exciting, alluring, Humans are curious creatures. Most migrated to the city cause of the decadence and excitement and getting an education.

Farm life and country life is not exciting.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Whatever the reason, they chose the city over the farm and most chose to stay. So it must have been better from their perspetive.

But I ask again what does any of that have to do with the modern world? There was no question raised concerning the difference between 'then' and now. The statement was, it is a form of slavery to not be able to take from the land at will.

And the original post was, it's a form of slavery to work for a living. What does farming have to do with any of that? Should OP work on a farm? What?
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Depends on work.
But true %20 of your labor is for u the other %80 goes to the wealthy.

When so many here were saying the occupy movement was filled with lazy ppl they were missing the point. It's not that there arn't jobs , it's that the jobs available are only here to perpetuate a slave society. I don't know if thats is what the average protester was thinking but it is the truth.
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ummmmmmm we are not called Human resources for no reason, lol.
watch the documentary Zeitgeist Addendum it explains it in great detail.

WE SHOULD BE THRIVING!
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If I work in a manufacturing plant for green paper, then trade that green paper to a butcher for beef steaks which take 15 minutes to cut a wrap:

Is the labor I performed real?

Is the green papaer worth anything?

Is the meat real?

Am I a slave?

Was the butcher my slave for 15 minutes?

Was I a slave master for 15 minutes?

Was the butcher my slave and his employers slave at the same time?

Did I defraud the butcher with green paper?

Was that whole transaction (my work for money for food) easier or better than me raisong and butchering my own food?

Should a pink unicorn come past and drop food in my mouth from time to time?


Some people need to get an understanding of what life is about.
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04/22/2012 11:14 AM
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If no one worked for companies there would be little manufacturing. Imagine one person assembling a car, or building a house.

Every person's employment (labor) contributes to the pool of resources we all use, resources being products and services. If some don't contribute then other must contribute more or the pool will be reduced. We usually get payment for our contribution which we can then exchange to make withdrawals from the pool of resources.

It is a good and noble thing to give to your community. But without people working in orginazations (companies for example) we would not have many of the modern conveniences we now enjoy.

Which is better?
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I was talking about the current model of companies, the ones built only for make profits. I'm not against manufacturing, it's an essential part of every modern industry. I'm against the philosophy. We should be working in colaboration, no competition. It makes no sense at all considering we're completely rational beings. Why to compete each other instead sharing and working towards a common objective, to help us all and improve our societies?

The problem is that we were educated in a way that we need to earn our money and fight every day in order to garantee our survival. That's just nonsense, stupidity. Individual perspective at extreme levels.
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Ahh, competition. The little magic ingretient that drives us toward innovation and invention. Without competition there would be no need for one widget manufacturer to ever improve his product. He makes it, he sells it, who cares? But if you think you can make it better or cheaper you might start your own widget factory. You employees might earn a higher wage or your customers might get a better product at a lower cost.

How is that a bad thing?


If there was one food market where you live, they could charge whatever they wanted. Where else can you get food? Unless there is a regulation to control prices. Then you'd need a regulation to control every facet of the economy because you can't control one item in a vacuum. The overall economy works whan all its aspects are in sync.

You describe the beginnings of tyranny. Free market competition or eventual tyranny, your choice.
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And stress and eventual breakdown.
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And true creativity never comes from a place of force or competition.

It comes from a place of peace.

And it is beneficial for everyone, not just yourself.

That is where the joy comes from.

The joy that we are sadly lacking
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To all those: "You can walk away from it anytime" or the ones chiming in saying: "It depends on what you do" well...............you are all wrong.

Once your 'labor' is exchanged for paper money, you're a slave. Don't you get it?


Now, if you barter (the way it SHOULD be) then that's something different. But you can't. They won't let you. You can't even grow you're own crops hardly anymore.

We are ALL slaves unless....and this is the ONLY exception....you are living off the grid entirely with no need for cash.
Which is very hard to do too.

I implore you all to watch The Thrive Movement.

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I work the night shift too. 11pm to 7:30 am 5 nights a week, but I prefer 3rd shift. That way, I am home when my kid are awake. Hubby works 2nd shift, so I sleep until he has to go in, and we dont pay for daycare that way. And, if one of my boys has something at school or something, I'll skip sleep and do that - my kids are #1.

I actually like my job. I'm a medical assistant and I enjoy helping other people.
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sorry, but I think you made the OP's point. There isn't much time for family building there. You may think it sounds just wonderful, but if you asked someone 100 years ago they would be repulsed at such a broken family. Both parents slaving away and trading off their kids time because they both HAVE to work. Or at least most couples say they both have to work, which most do. And some couples just say they both have to work but they mean they both have to work to maintain the lifestyle they prefer.

And what about the "working to save for my child's education?" What a bunch of BS that has been sold to the American people. Deny your children the time with you that they need and deserve during their most formative years so you can pay for an education that they may or may not want when they are 18. And a BS education at that. "My child will have a better life than I did" - How strong was the propaganda that convinced American's that a life without college was a life in the gutter? The Progressives orchestrated a way to take over your kid's mind regardless of how you may have raised them. And besides that what are we left with? A shitload of people with Humanities degrees, Psychology degrees, Political Science degrees, who don't know squat and end up working at Target anyway (And this is even in a good economy)! (And those "student loans" chalk up debt that will never be repaid to society.) So...either they are trained in social engineering or can't produce anything with their hands anyway, nor teach anyone else to do so.

We are left with no one to sustain our infrastructure. No plumbers, electricians, mechanics, tool makers, no one to manufacture our food. We have people joining roadcrews who mix pavement so that it cracks within a year, sidewalks that buckle in a few months, and buildings that should be considered temporary housing instead of permanent structures.

And how absolutely ingenious of us was it to create a society where our major institutions operate only from 9-5? Doctors offices, banks, lawyers - only working when WE'RE working! Then we have to go grovel to the boss to be able to use these institutions and apologize for having to leave our own work, or get reprimanded or fired for doing so, when we have no FREAKIN' CHOICE?

Civilization's big leap into the modern world in the last 100 years could have done a hell of a lot better.
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the system works so well for those at the top too because those who work seem to despise or look down on those who dont. Another divide and conquer method, keep us squabbling while they continue to take and take from us.
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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It's also a shared survival tactic, in its deepest intention, all work together to create a survivable world.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah



Yeah survivable lavish world for the rich Jewish Hollywood and banisters who are the fat top hat fucking pigs Like in 1984 trust me 1984 is real we are living it
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To all those: "You can walk away from it anytime" or the ones chiming in saying: "It depends on what you do" well...............you are all wrong.

Once your 'labor' is exchanged for paper money, you're a slave. Don't you get it?


Now, if you barter (the way it SHOULD be) then that's something different. But you can't. They won't let you. You can't even grow you're own crops hardly anymore.

We are ALL slaves unless....and this is the ONLY exception....you are living off the grid entirely with no need for cash.
Which is very hard to do too.

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WELL SAID!

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I feel the same way.

I remember when I was little, I was obsessed with the Amish when I went to Lancaster, PA. Even then, I realized their way of life is way better than us "normal" folks.

We have to work from the time we are 20 (sometimes from the time we are 13) to the age of about 65 (most people have to continue working even after 60s). Most people are lucky if they even get weekends off. I know I'm one of those people. It's Sunday, and my work already called me about something. Probably to go in tonight. I haven't had a Sunday off in months. I get treated like shit at work, like a freaking dog or slave. It's crazy. Every job is the same too.

There isn't a job out there today it seems that doesn't have you "on call" where you might have to go in any damn day. I'm not even supposed to be "on call".

Another thing, is that I'm part time, but I been working 40 hours since the summer. Figure that out. I want to be full-time, but noooo. That's just too much money to spend on someone.

Amish people have it right. Minus the whole religious thing, being self-sufficient is the way to be. It is a lot of work to have a farm and everything, but at least you can spend time with your family, not a bunch of loser co-workers. Waste away your life in an office or building, or doing whatever stupid shit there is.

I mean, sure some people have it easy because they are at the top, but most people aren't. We are the little minions that get treated like slaves. We are being forced to work somewhere, because if we don't the bill man comes and takes everything away. Especially since my bills are all student loan bills..don't get me started on that..
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I feel the same way.

I remember when I was little, I was obsessed with the Amish when I went to Lancaster, PA. Even then, I realized their way of life is way better than us "normal" folks.

We have to work from the time we are 20 (sometimes from the time we are 13) to the age of about 65 (most people have to continue working even after 60s). Most people are lucky if they even get weekends off. I know I'm one of those people. It's Sunday, and my work already called me about something. Probably to go in tonight. I haven't had a Sunday off in months. I get treated like shit at work, like a freaking dog or slave. It's crazy. Every job is the same too.

There isn't a job out there today it seems that doesn't have you "on call" where you might have to go in any damn day. I'm not even supposed to be "on call".

Another thing, is that I'm part time, but I been working 40 hours since the summer. Figure that out. I want to be full-time, but noooo. That's just too much money to spend on someone.

Amish people have it right. Minus the whole religious thing, being self-sufficient is the way to be. It is a lot of work to have a farm and everything, but at least you can spend time with your family, not a bunch of loser co-workers. Waste away your life in an office or building, or doing whatever stupid shit there is.

I mean, sure some people have it easy because they are at the top, but most people aren't. We are the little minions that get treated like slaves. We are being forced to work somewhere, because if we don't the bill man comes and takes everything away. Especially since my bills are all student loan bills..don't get me started on that..
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Yep, the Amish way does look good.

But one thing I have learned in my 60 plus years, the grass may LOOK greener over there, but usually it's just different. Not better, not even necessarily worse, just different.

I understand some Amish communites accept 'converts'. If it looks that good you should check into it.
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It's not slavery. You can walk away anytime. Slavery is involuntary. You downplay the evil of slavery by comparing a job to it. It sounds more like you want someone to pay your freight than simply finding freedom.

Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
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that's the illusion fucktard. if you don't work and earn the paper, you won't be able to afford anything, because the government claims everything their property/possesion. at least over in here in europe. you are not allowed to go and hunt your food without paying for a permission. you are not allowed to collect anything from nature without a permission.

now if that isn't slavery ... you downplay a job like it isn't slavery. only a small percentage are able to work as what they actually want but the majority hast to accept any kind of job in order to survive. every day the same bullshit for the most time of your life. what beautiful freedom ....
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Just think for one second. How many people live in Europe and how much (public) natural resources is there? The point is, if everyone had a right to all of nature the game and wild plants would be gone in a matter of days. It must be regulated in order to be protected.

Some here in the US say the same thing as you...if things get bad they will just hunt deer or rabbits. When 100's of thousands of people are scavaging the land, it will soon be gone and then we all starve.
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that's bullshit. nature provides more than enough for everybody. humans don't have to eat meat everyday.
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It's also a shared survival tactic, in its deepest intention, all work together to create a survivable world.
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Yeah survivable lavish world for the rich Jewish Hollywood and banisters who are the fat top hat fucking pigs Like in 1984 trust me 1984 is real we are living it
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Banksters
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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its not as easy as that, at least not in the west. i would love to have some land and live off that
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sorry, but I think you made the OP's point. There isn't much time for family building there. You may think it sounds just wonderful, but if you asked someone 100 years ago they would be repulsed at such a broken family. Both parents slaving away and trading off their kids time because they both HAVE to work. Or at least most couples say they both have to work, which most do. And some couples just say they both have to work but they mean they both have to work to maintain the lifestyle they prefer.
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precisely. we spend more time working for a soulless system than we spend working for ourselves, our family and our community.
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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Slaves can choose not to do what they are told.

And suffer the consequences.
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the system works so well for those at the top too because those who work seem to despise or look down on those who dont. Another divide and conquer method, keep us squabbling while they continue to take and take from us.
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You must not b aware of current US political campaigns. Obama is waging class warfare, pitting the lower class against the upper class, poor unemployes against the rich bankers and oilmen. Even pitting the sick against the doctors who treat them.

The recent trend in US politics is to place the social welfare recepients on a pedistal.They ar to be admired for perservering even though thay have been victimized by fat cat industrialists.

Look, industrious people disapprove of laziness by nature. That does not matter whether the industrious person works for himself, owns a business or toils for a paycheck.

Yea, I personally despise people who live in free government housing projects who won't even keep their common areas cleaned of litter. Some people willingly live like animals. I do despise them.
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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sure they do. slaves can revolt whenever they want or stop 'working' for their masters, but they don't because they fear the consequences. what is the difference in getting shot right away or being denied any access to resources whatsoever, which often also results into death ? nothing but time.

this is modern slavery which most of you don't seem to understand. if you give the slave the illusion of choice and freedom, he/she will be able to 'work' more and be more valuable to the system. that's just how it works. the fact that you can't deny citizenship proves that we are slaves on human farms (countries).

from wiki:

Citizenship is the state of being a citizen of a particular social, political, national, or human resource community
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ummmmmmm we are not called Human resources for no reason, lol.
watch the documentary Zeitgeist Addendum it explains it in great detail.

WE SHOULD BE THRIVING!
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yeah I remember when they made the name change from 'Personnel' to 'Human Resources', I was working in the public service at the time and I remarked to a co-worker something like 'ugh, that tells you what they really think of us' and he looked at me like I was some crazy 'conspiracy theorist' or something.
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Seeing the matrix is the first step to finding the door.
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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its not as easy as that, at least not in the west. i would love to have some land and live off that
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Of course it's that easy, when I was in my 20's I hopped on a boat in San Diego as a deck hand, spent 3 years working my way across the pacific. Hitching rides from island to island. Learned to survive off nature and had a great learning experience. Having lived in hunter gather societies, there is not much difference between "working" for money to pay for survival and "working" for yourself just to survive.
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give it up
you go to work so that you can afford to go to work
give it up
living doesn't cost much, especially if you are not materialistic,
who needs a 60" plasma tv to watch adverts on?
all you need is food + water to live
give it up
youll be surpirised how little money you need access to

give it up
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I agree with this comment. This is how I have been living for at least the last 6-7 years now. Ever since I started college and moved out of mommy's house. I worked at the Coalition for Housing here in my county after I got my Associate's degree in Business. When I worked there, this is what I would teach the homeless people who would come to our program. The top three priorities in life are food, housing, and any medication needed to stay alive. Grow a garden in your yard, or join in with a community garden. There are countless housing opportunities that are available in our country, who will help you with your bills and housing needs. The medication is the only thing I myself have a problem with. I can't afford my medications or health insurance, but there is medicaid out there. Some people aren't qualified to get this (me included, no kids basically), so I have to go to the street for whatever I may need (which I don't suggest to do if possible).
Mostly, you need to research the different opportunities there are. Once you start finding ways around life's obstacles, you will start prioritizing your life "needs" compared to "wants" and eventually get used to it. Internet instead of cable will save money. Also look for a cheap phone plan. Safe-link has free phones and minutes, as well as cheap phone plans without the BS 2-year contracts, (Boost, and Revol wireless, etc.)

Good luck, and Much Love to you all
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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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Exactly. Obviously most people commenting here have dead-end, low-paying jobs and live paycheck to paycheck. I wonder how many would like for the government to support them. If anyone thinks they're a slave now, wait until that happens.

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"Work is simply paid slavery"

What is the alternative?
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Just dawned on me as im getting ready for night shift. are we nothing more than paid pieces of meat, worker ants.... im wasting away and breaking my back for green pieces of paper. i want to be free god damn it ! Dont you ?
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It's only that way if you never progress! Start small, go to a community college or tech college. Learn a skill, a viable trade, make yourself more valuable.

You're view is the skewed view of what I like to call, and I mean no offense to you specifically, the quintessential 'whoa is me whiner'!

It would not matter if .gov gave you an education, a high paying job, and college gymnast/rocket scientist/super model for a spouse, you'd still find some way to say, "whoa is me!"

Read a fucking book, learn a skill, and get some gumption.

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Then don't work the choice is yours, slaves do not have a choice
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sure they do. slaves can revolt whenever they want or stop 'working' for their masters, but they don't because they fear the consequences. what is the difference in getting shot right away or being denied any access to resources whatsoever, which often also results into death ? nothing but time.

this is modern slavery which most of you don't seem to understand. if you give the slave the illusion of choice and freedom, he/she will be able to 'work' more and be more valuable to the system. that's just how it works. the fact that you can't deny citizenship proves that we are slaves on human farms (countries).

from wiki:

Citizenship is the state of being a citizen of a particular social, political, national, or human resource community
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14843647


Citizen, person, Mr, Mrs and Ms, these are all legal terms that define us legally as chattels and slaves, the only terms that aren't 'slave' definitions are souls and living beings, possibly man and woman are ok too. People need to look up these term in legal dictionaries, the legal meaning of a term or word can be very different from what we have been led to believe, we are imprisoned by language definitions.
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Re: Work is simply paid slavery
give it up
you go to work so that you can afford to go to work
give it up
living doesn't cost much, especially if you are not materialistic,
who needs a 60" plasma tv to watch adverts on?
all you need is food + water to live
give it up
youll be surpirised how little money you need access to

give it up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14746712


I agree with this comment. This is how I have been living for at least the last 6-7 years now. Ever since I started college and moved out of mommy's house. I worked at the Coalition for Housing here in my county after I got my Associate's degree in Business. When I worked there, this is what I would teach the homeless people who would come to our program. The top three priorities in life are food, housing, and any medication needed to stay alive. Grow a garden in your yard, or join in with a community garden. There are countless housing opportunities that are available in our country, who will help you with your bills and housing needs. The medication is the only thing I myself have a problem with. I can't afford my medications or health insurance, but there is medicaid out there. Some people aren't qualified to get this (me included, no kids basically), so I have to go to the street for whatever I may need (which I don't suggest to do if possible).
Mostly, you need to research the different opportunities there are. Once you start finding ways around life's obstacles, you will start prioritizing your life "needs" compared to "wants" and eventually get used to it. Internet instead of cable will save money. Also look for a cheap phone plan. Safe-link has free phones and minutes, as well as cheap phone plans without the BS 2-year contracts, (Boost, and Revol wireless, etc.)

Good luck, and Much Love to you all
 Quoting: wheelsinthesky8


This is just living off the work of others, not the same as everyone living and no on working.

And I do not mean to insult these folks, they may have legitimate problems that prevent them from suppoting themselves.

But your reply does not answer the bigger question.

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