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***BIG EARTH CHANGES*** Solar poles to become quadrupolar in May!

 
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"CLOCKWORK" definition make me think if the 300 years can be looked at like seconds and every unknown number of 300s of years their can be a minute or more dramatically if every number of 11s to every number of 300s can be a BIG Hour !!
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With the way things are these days, that wouldn't surprise me at all. Well, I'd be dead. Kinda hard to surprise the dead.
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Ice Age Coming, nothing new.

Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity
Date: 14 June 2011 Time: 03:50 PM ET
[link to www.space.com]

"...Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle, Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no sunspots. [Video: Rivers of Fire Inflame Sunspots]..."Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we'll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all," Altrock said. "If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions. … No one knows what the sun will do in that case...."

chilly
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It is all just so much speculation. No one knows the mind of Creator. To pretend such allows one to play out the archetypal role of the Fool.

In my opinion,...

Z
 Quoting: zacksavage 1251196

Only a fool would ignore events that have been shown to consistently repeat. Such as the Moon orbiting the Earth and the Earth orbiting the Sun. History also shows a repeating Ice Age Cycle here [link to en.wikipedia.org] The 'official' Japanese site also speaks of an Ice Age here National Astronomical Observatory Of Japan: World May Be Entering Period Of Global Cooling [link to thegwpf.org]
"...If that trend continues, the north pole could complete its flip in May 2012 but create a four-pole magnetic structure in the sun, with two new poles created in the vicinity of the equator of our closest star..."

It may not happen in the next few decades, but history has recorded a cycle. To ignore repeating cycles would be foolish.

In my opinion,...

Here is the article at WUWT;
Astronomers: World may be entering period of global cooling
Posted on April 21, 2012 by Anthony Watts
[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

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This is potentially HUGE news. This kind of activity hasn't been seen in 300 years.

Doom?
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well, what happened 300 years ago when this occurred? Can't think of any massive extinctions or earth changes then...
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I won't believe it happened unless I see documentation. "Someone "thinks" it happened" doesn't work for me...
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revelation speaks about this...
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Really and where exactly in the book of revelation does it speak about the sun having 4 magnetic poles lol
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Who is Yomiuri Shimbun and why are we to believe him?

That's an awful small blurt for something potentially this big.

What are his credentials? What is he basing this on? And other than this Japanese blog or website, where else has this been confirmed?

I love how GLPer's dig up dirt like this. It makes this place both fascinating and furious both at the same time.
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White folks get scared the sun is going to burn you up for messing with the children of RA .
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Only a fool would ignore events that have been shown to consistently repeat. Such as the Moon orbiting the Earth and the Earth orbiting the Sun. History also shows a repeating Ice Age Cycle here [link to en.wikipedia.org] The 'official' Japanese site also speaks of an Ice Age here National Astronomical Observatory Of Japan: World May Be Entering Period Of Global Cooling [link to thegwpf.org]
"...If that trend continues, the north pole could complete its flip in May 2012 but create a four-pole magnetic structure in the sun, with two new poles created in the vicinity of the equator of our closest star..."

It may not happen in the next few decades, but history has recorded a cycle. To ignore repeating cycles would be foolish.

In my opinion,...

Here is the article at WUWT;
Astronomers: World may be entering period of global cooling
Posted on April 21, 2012 by Anthony Watts
[link to wattsupwiththat.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984


Well,... I most certainly agree with you in discussion of cycles. The cycles being currently deduced by [Present] Earthings, are miniscule in scope, compared to the much longer ones shrouded in time past.

Cycles within cycles as is the Mayan calendar.

Thank you for the link btw,....most interesting.


Z

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Re: ***BIG EARTH CHANGES*** Solar poles to become quadrupolar in May!
Another similar article.

Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers

Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.

[link to ajw.asahi.com]



[link to www.youtube.com]

I guess well, just have to wait and see what happens. Hopefully more information is made available.
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Most Interesting..... A channeling that was purported to be from St Germain- does indeed state that AFTER the earth changes there will occur a MAGNETIC POLE REVERSAL....Further it was stated that ELECTRICITY WILL NOT WORK AS THE POLARITIES WILL HAVE SWITCHED....He does say that our machines, batteries etc. will go dead. They could be reactivated if we had the proper tools to do this but it is probably not going to happen....So there will be a complete halt of civilization, as we know it, with our total dependence on electricity. The warning was given 20 or so years ago. Moving out into the country and trying to learn how to live might have been a good decision- but who of us who knew about this actually did this? I am a bit shocked to read that it is MAY they are now saying this could happen. There is a post up today about the strange anomalies affecting the SUN - It all could be true. One always hopes for more TIME however. Maybe time has run out.....
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Most Interesting..... A channeling that was purported to be from St Germain- does indeed state that AFTER the earth changes there will occur a MAGNETIC POLE REVERSAL....Further it was stated that ELECTRICITY WILL NOT WORK AS THE POLARITIES WILL HAVE SWITCHED....He does say that our machines, batteries etc. will go dead. They could be reactivated if we had the proper tools to do this but it is probably not going to happen....So there will be a complete halt of civilization, as we know it, with our total dependence on electricity. The warning was given 20 or so years ago. Moving out into the country and trying to learn how to live might have been a good decision- but who of us who knew about this actually did this? I am a bit shocked to read that it is MAY they are now saying this could happen. There is a post up today about the strange anomalies affecting the SUN - It all could be true. One always hopes for more TIME however. Maybe time has run out.....
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Tracking Variations in the Earth's Magnetic Field

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I'm pretty sure my mother in law is quadpolar

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Another similar article.

Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers

Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.

[link to ajw.asahi.com]



[link to www.youtube.com]

I guess well, just have to wait and see what happens. Hopefully more information is made available.
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I am liking this more and more.
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really interesting! thx for posting hf

I wonder if the sun`s magnetic field would therefore become weaker or stronger?

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Re: ***BIG EARTH CHANGES*** Solar poles to become quadrupolar in May!
the suns magnetic polarity actually reverses every 11 years, so not a big deal
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Not to sound like a dick, but you're not paying attention. This is in ADDITION to the 11 year cycle. Our current cycle has run over and is moving into it's 13th year as mentioned in the article linked in the OP.
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Not to be a dick but the last solar pole change was Jan 2001 which means we are now only a couple of months past the 11 year mark, which is an estimate anyway
see....
[link to science.nasa.gov]
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The first measurements of the magnetic Northpole on earth dating from 1831.

So, can someone explain how it is possible that we know that the sun had a quadpole 300 years ago?
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All material has only one north and southpole. One object cannot have two northpoles and two southpoles. So this is a total bullshit story. Only when you split a magnet into 2 pieces you will become 2 N and S poles. But then we are talking about two objects. So, this can only be true when the sun splits into 2 objects and that would mean we become two suns....
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The first measurements of the magnetic Northpole on earth dating from 1831.

So, can someone explain how it is possible that we know that the sun had a quadpole 300 years ago?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3855746


Actually, 'Quadpoles' are not that uncommon; [link to wattsupwiththat.com]
"...The fact is that it is quite normal that the polar fields reverse at different times. This was noted in the very first observations of a polar field reversal [link to www.leif.org] We have seen the North pole reversal coming for some time, e.g. AGU Fall Meeting, San Francisco, 5-9 December, 2011, Early Reversal of the Sun’s Polar Field – Is Solar Cycle 24 Already Peaking?, J T. Hoeksema, SH33A-2044. The Japanese data is just confirmation of what has been known for a long time and does not call for any revisions of current theories. Currently, the two poles have the same polarity and there are two equatorial patches with the opposite polarity: [link to www.leif.org] but this is nothing new. Science by press release is bad style."
Leif Svalgaard's Research Page: [link to www.leif.org]
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The first measurements of the magnetic Northpole on earth dating from 1831.

So, can someone explain how it is possible that we know that the sun had a quadpole 300 years ago?
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I think it was going off the sun spots of that period in relation to the current cycle
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No one can prove the sun was a quadpole 300 years ago. When a quadpole occurs before a poleshift we would see this at the sun with a average of 11 years cycle. We already would be able to exactly foresee a poleshift. And that is simply not true.

This can only be true when 1 object splits into two objects. But then the question raises "what is causing that?"
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If we convert the age of Sun to human scale(approx. 100 years old), 300 years is less than 1ms.
Therefore it is ridiculous to talk about 11 year cycle being lengthened to 13 years or so.
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Source does not seem credible as it has just past 11 years not heading into the 13th year.
I am amazed at how many websites have regurgitated the original source without any search for other evidence.
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[link to www.leif.org]

graphic of sun-poles
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Source does not seem credible as it has just past 11 years not heading into the 13th year.
I am amazed at how many websites have regurgitated the original source without any search for other evidence.
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Opps, I take it back....
The Yomiuri Shimbun is a Japanese newspaper published in Tokyo, Osaka, Fukuoka, and other major Japanese cities.It is one of the five national newspapers in Japan; the other four are the Asahi Shimbun, the Mainichi Shimbun, Nihon Keizai Shimbun, and the Sankei Shimbun. The headquarters is located in Otemachi, Chiyoda, Tokyo.
Founded in 1874, the Yomiuri Shimbun is credited with having the largest newspaper circulation in the world having a combined morning and evening circulation of 14,323,781 through January 2002. The paper is printed twice a day and in several different local editions
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Still could get their fact right regarding the length of time since the last cycle as it is quite common knowledge or easily researched
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[link to www.leif.org]
Magnetogram 1970-2006

[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]
Current Solar Magnetogram

[link to www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk]
sunspots & number of magnetic storms 1856-2011

[link to www.youtube.com]
Sonnenstürme 2012 - 2013 und 2014 zdf

[link to wattsupwiththat.com]
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... So, this can only be true when the sun splits into 2 objects and that would mean we become two suns....
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the sun is made of plasma!
it is not solid, rather liquid
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[link to www.stsci.edu]

Early Reversal of the Sun's Polar Magnetic Fields and Assymetirc Sun as Observed with Hinode

Saku Tsuneta (National Astronomical Observatory of Japan)

We have been monitoring yearly variation of the Sun s polar magnetic fields with the Solar Optical Telescope aboard Hinode (Tsuneta+08, Ito+10, Shiota+12). The large magnetic flux concentrations with magnetic flux larger than 10(18) Mx per concentration have the same polarity, while the positive and negative fluxes are well balanced for more obscured flux concentrations with smaller magnetic flux (10(15)-10(16) Mx per concentration). The polarity of the polar region as a whole is determined only by such large magnetic concentrations. The decrease in the net magnetic fluxes of the both regions started in the declining phase of the previous cycle. The decrease is much more rapid in the North than in the South. The rapid decrease of the positive flux in the North region is due to the decrease in the number of the large flux concentrations. In contrast, the obscured concentrations for both polarities and that of the horizontal magnetic fields (Ishikawa+11) do not change during the year of 2008-2012. The Sun will have a dominant quadruple mode from the usual bipolar mode as the Sun in the Maunder minimum was speculated to have.





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