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THE LAWLESS AND PERVERSE CHURCHES AND WHY MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT IN THE KINGDAOM

 
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THE LAWLESS AND PERVERSE CHURCHES AND WHY MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT IN THE KINGDAOM
let us examine the facts of the messiah and how he was challenged and tried to be led into traps by religionists from the house of satan.This scenario I first present is very typical of most christians today. they love to take parts and portions of scriptures to justify their rebellion to truth.

This partial scripture is the favorite one they use but they don't ever include the question being asked.Today I will include it because it is a very good trick they use to lead others astray like TV ads!


The book of john chp 5

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
?


moses
7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
nbvbvc



Sybliminally they wave the one liners constantly and repeatedly until it becomes a trigger of defense and a catch phrase.This is brainwash pre-thought while studying the word you see nothing else but what was implanted all other words become irrelevant "EVEN IF THE MESSIAH IS SAYING IT"

*LETS WALK TOGETHER*

Below is from the book of Matthew chapter 22 they love to quote about the law and insist that the law of old was done away with and all we need is love.The portion in red they totally reject and the verses prior to this one they deliberately leave out. This is very straight forward even my parrot can explain this!


Jesus said unto him: thou shalt love thy Lord God with all thine heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and that great commandment. And there is another like unto this. Thou shalt love thine neighbor as thyself. In these two commandments, hang all the law and the prophets.



NOW LET US LOOK AT THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED TO PROMPT THE MESSIAH TO ANSWER AND UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT HE WAS ALLURING TO.


Here we see in the previous verse there was a question asked by one of the wicked ones.What was the question in regard to? Which commandment in the law! Messiah answered regarding the commandment in the law

PROOF!

¶ When the pharisees had heard, how that he had put the sadducees to silence, they drew togedder, and one of them which was a doctor of law asked him a question tempting him and saying: **Master which is the great commandment in the law?**

WHAT DID HE ASK?

**Master which is the great commandment in the law?**


WHAT DID HE ASK?

**Master which is the great commandment in the law?**


HOLD UP! HOLD UP! WHAT DID HE ASK?

**Master which is the great commandment in the law?**


NO! WAIT UP HERE,THAT AINT RIGHT! WHAT DID HE ASK?

**Master which is the great commandment in the law?**


OK!DID JESUS ASK WHAT LAW? DID HE SAY THERE IS NO LAW? AND WHAT DID JESUS REPLY?

Jesus said unto him: thou shalt love thy Lord God with all thine heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and that great commandment. And there is another like unto this. Thou shalt love thine neighbor as thyself. In these two commandments, hang all the law and the prophets.


WAIT! WAIT! JESUS SAID WHAT?
In these two commandments, hang all the law and the prophets.

NO NEIM THAT AINT RIGHT! JESUS SAID WHAT?
In these two commandments, hang all the law and the prophets.



WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THE LAW OF THE PROPHETS NEIM? THEN THAT MEANS MOSES AND ELISHA AND DAVID AND ISAIAH AND EZEKIEL

Let us now look at the law and the prophets given as reference to this verse in my bible Deut chapter 6.THIS IS THE LAW THAT WAS ASKED BY THE DOCTOR

THE BOOKS OF MOSES

6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:

6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.

6:3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.

6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

6:9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

6:10 And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not,

6:11 And houses full of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full;

6:12 Then beware lest thou forget the LORD, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.

6:14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;

6:15 (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

6:17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

6:18 And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORD: that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers.

6:19 To cast out all thine enemies from before thee, as the LORD hath spoken.

6:20 And when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD our God hath commanded you?

6:21 Then thou shalt say unto thy son, We were Pharaoh's bondmen in Egypt; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand:

6:22 And the LORD showed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes:

6:23 And he brought us out from thence, that he might bring us in, to give us the land which he sware unto our fathers.

6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.

6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.



WAIT! WAIT! JESUS SAID ALL THIS? ABOUT THE LAWS OF THE PROPHETS? THAT IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS NEIM! SHOW ME ANOTHER WITNESS TO THIS!


** NEWS FLASH **
LET ME TELL YOU HERE NOW "THE PROPHETS" ARE THE OTHER BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE LAW IS REFERRING TO "THE BOOKS OF MOSES"


17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Ex 20:13 Dt 6 & 5:17


FROM HERE ON YOU CAN DEBATE AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE AND ARGUE BECAUSE THE JESUS YOU PROFESSED SHOWED YOU IN YOUR OWN BIBLE NOT MY WORDS BUT HIS.
You can go to the epistles which you do not understand and are unlearned to refute the messiahs word.

Your favorite being colossian chapter 2:14 and the book of roman and galations.I am to familiar with your folly.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MESSIAH SPOKE ALL THE WORDS IN THE GOSPEL PRESENTED IN THE THREAD."THIS IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST"M,JJK,J

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/22/2013 06:27 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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acts chp 5

And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

NAZSDER

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/09/2012 08:48 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

:NAZSDER:

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

NAZSDER

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


not here to be interogated ..hope you learn from the thread peace
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

:NAZSDER:

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

:NAZSDER:

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


not here to be interogated ..hope you learn from the thread peace
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Wasn't interrogating you and I am sorry if you see it that way. I was always taught that if you are going to lecture, then you should be accepting of questions. For I have never met a teacher that has not believed in the question. You appear to be knowledgeable and you put a lot of effort and hard work into what you present, but I want to know, what is salvation to you?
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

NAZSDER

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

NAZSDER

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

:NAZSDER:

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Look forward to it and will do . Goofy Thum
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Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Look forward to it and will do . Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


got you peace!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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acts chp 5

And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to *them that obey him*.

5:33 When they heard that, *they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them*.


o-o-o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o---o-o--o--o-o-o-o-o--o-o-o--o-o--o-

"Nailed to the cross" meaning "No Law" that what the bumper stickers say!

Only Grace! Only confess with your lips!

All these little feel good cliches, but lying on our savior



Romans chapter 2

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

The lawless will be judged and will perish for their lawlessness.Then those who had the law and still disobeyed will be judged by the law they knew. So tell me *PEOPLE OF EARTH* which are you? I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED!

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The law does not save but it justifies you before the father, same as faith justifies you before the father.Faith without works is dead.Sanctification and committment by agreeing to Obedience to the commandments statutes ordinances which is an expression of love is what saves you

2nd Cor 11:14
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

NAZSDER

IT PLAINLY SAYS HERE SATAN IS NOT THE UGLY RED MAN WITH THE FORK.HE IS NO LONGER IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING YOU.HE HAS BEEN CHANGED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.THIS HE IS IN THE PLACE YOU FREQUENT AND CALL HOLY.HE IS IN YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP.HE TAINTED THE WORD OF GOD. DID NOT PAUL TELL YOU ABOUT THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS? THIS IS JUST NOT CHRISTIANS BUT THOSE IN JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND BHUDDISM AND HINDUISM

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


not here to be interogated ..hope you learn from the thread peace
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Wasn't interrogating you and I am sorry if you see it that way. I was always taught that if you are going to lecture, then you should be accepting of questions. For I have never met a teacher that has not believed in the question. You appear to be knowledgeable and you put a lot of effort and hard work into what you present, but I want to know, what is salvation to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


I was not trying to be rude but there are people who keep asking this question over and over and it is is quite evident what I beleive in in my posts.The messiah is not God and that is meaning he is not the father.He is the son of God ..Peter said the same thing and the messiah said to him blessed are you simaon because the father has revealed this to you..Why cant people grasp that?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Hello OP,

Thanks for sharing scripture. Truly, all the laws hang on the greatest; Love God with all your heart and mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

But I wonder, what are your thoughts;

When one man sees his neighbor in error, how does that one man 'love his neighbor as himself'?

What is that one man to do? how does he fulfill the law?

peace,
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Neim, not sure who your target audience is on this one, so if you would name them, I would be most appreciative. Secondly, do you believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I was not trying to be rude but there are people who keep asking this question over and over and it is is quite evident what I beleive in in my posts.The messiah is not God and that is meaning he is not the father.He is the son of God ..Peter said the same thing and the messiah said to him blessed are you simaon because the father has revealed this to you..Why cant people grasp that?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



The Messiah was not God and because you believe he is the son, it means he is not God?

1st Timothy 3:16 says, "...God was manifest in the flesh..."

John 1:14, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" - Revelation 1:8

Jesus says in Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" If Jesus Christ isn't Deity, then why did He include Himself in the Holy Trinity

Matthew 1:23 says, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

According to both of these verses, Jesus was "God with us" when He walked upon this earth. He wasn't merely "God's chosen one with us" or "God's Son with us." As I Timothy 3:16 states, "God was manifest in the flesh." John 1:14 tells us that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." In Zechariah 12:10, GOD said that HE (God) would be "pierced" by sinners, and Revelation 1:7 states that Jesus Christ Himself fulfilled this prophecy!

Friend, the Bible presents Jesus Christ as much more than a great prophet and teacher. God's word presents Jesus Christ as God incarnate.
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Hello OP,

Thanks for sharing scripture. Truly, all the laws hang on the greatest; Love God with all your heart and mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

But I wonder, what are your thoughts;

When one man sees his neighbor in error, how does that one man 'love his neighbor as himself'?

What is that one man to do? how does he fulfill the law?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Hello OP,

Thanks for sharing scripture. Truly, all the laws hang on the greatest; Love God with all your heart and mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

But I wonder, what are your thoughts;

When one man sees his neighbor in error, how does that one man 'love his neighbor as himself'?

What is that one man to do? how does he fulfill the law?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
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Hello OP,

Thanks for sharing scripture. Truly, all the laws hang on the greatest; Love God with all your heart and mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

But I wonder, what are your thoughts;

When one man sees his neighbor in error, how does that one man 'love his neighbor as himself'?

What is that one man to do? how does he fulfill the law?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise.If you are uneasy with your decision then it is not of God
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Read the title ! The Lawless Christians . And thanks again Neim for that Coverdale bible , just reading now . It's Awesome . I don't need the tyndale one .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14743546


great next week we will go through some alarming changes I see made to the modern bibles.

Use it as much as you can for your research..these men were called terrorist in their time because they had the first english translations from hebrew...coverdale had to hire some guys to help him out ...tyndale was killed and his bible was rewritten and changed by king james
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I was not trying to be rude but there are people who keep asking this question over and over and it is is quite evident what I beleive in in my posts.The messiah is not God and that is meaning he is not the father.He is the son of God ..Peter said the same thing and the messiah said to him blessed are you simaon because the father has revealed this to you..Why cant people grasp that?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



The Messiah was not God and because you believe he is the son, it means he is not God?

1st Timothy 3:16 says, "...God was manifest in the flesh..."

John 1:14, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" - Revelation 1:8

Jesus says in Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" If Jesus Christ isn't Deity, then why did He include Himself in the Holy Trinity

Matthew 1:23 says, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

According to both of these verses, Jesus was "God with us" when He walked upon this earth. He wasn't merely "God's chosen one with us" or "God's Son with us." As I Timothy 3:16 states, "God was manifest in the flesh." John 1:14 tells us that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." In Zechariah 12:10, GOD said that HE (God) would be "pierced" by sinners, and Revelation 1:7 states that Jesus Christ Himself fulfilled this prophecy!

Friend, the Bible presents Jesus Christ as much more than a great prophet and teacher. God's word presents Jesus Christ as God incarnate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2059065


... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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Hello OP,

Thanks for sharing scripture. Truly, all the laws hang on the greatest; Love God with all your heart and mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

But I wonder, what are your thoughts;

When one man sees his neighbor in error, how does that one man 'love his neighbor as himself'?

What is that one man to do? how does he fulfill the law?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
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the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
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the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Yeah and that spirit will lead a man not try to befriend his neighbor and then take his wife or even try to kill him
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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the spirit of the father will direct your heart on a resolve
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Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
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Yeah and that spirit will lead a man not try to befriend his neighbor and then take his wife or even try to kill him

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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...and by peace shall destroy many (Dan 8)





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Thanks for your reply,

Good advise. But how can a man know what is from the Spirit of The Father or another spirit?

If I am feeling directed towards contention and strife and quarrels with my neighbor, should I assume that is from The Spirit of the Father or another spirit?

peace,
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There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
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Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
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Indeed.

But Thanks be to God for the Good Sheppard.

His sheep belong to Him and no one else. They were given to him before the foundation of the world and He will loose none of them. Despite all the efforts of unborn men and devils.

Knowing such a thing brings me peace. A peace which surpasses all understanding.

May it bring you the same peace.
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...and by peace shall destroy many (Dan 8)





damned
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Exactly.Goofy Thum
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There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
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Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace.
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h 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!


Indeed.

But Thanks be to God for the Good Sheppard.

His sheep belong to Him and no one else. They were given to him b
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e foundation of the world and He will loose none of them. Despite all the efforts of unborn men and devils.

Knowing such a thing brings me peace. A peace which surpasses all understanding.

May it bring you the same peace.


their words are smoother than butter but war is in their hearts..peace peace they say....lol
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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There is a peacefulness that comes from listening to the fathers advise
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370
h 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!


Indeed.

But Thanks be to God for the Good Sheppard.

His sheep belong to Him and no one else. They were given to him b
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329
e foundation of the world and He will loose none of them. Despite all the efforts of unborn men and devils.

Knowing such a thing brings me peace. A peace which surpasses all understanding.

May it bring you the same peace.


Only the Father knows who they are. Not you.
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Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Indeed.

But Thanks be to God for the Good Sheppard.

His sheep belong to Him and no one else. They were given to him before the foundation of the world and He will loose none of them. Despite all the efforts of unborn men and devils.

Knowing such a thing brings me peace. A peace which surpasses all understanding.

May it bring you the same peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


their words are smoother than butter but war is in their hearts..peace peace they say....lol
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their words are smoother than butter but war is in their hearts..peace peace they say....lolCSZCDS
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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Oh yes it can and does. This we are promised.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine owne Name, those whom thou hast giuen mee, that they may bee one, as we are.
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... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
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Oh yes it can and does. This we are promised.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine owne Name, those whom thou hast giuen mee, that they may bee one, as we are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908143


where do you get these teachings from? I mean come on!


and who is we?


the holy spirit is given unto those who obey his commands, that text messiah was referring to his apostles first to begin with.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thanks for your reply.

I humbly agree.

Scripture speaks of not just any kind of peace. It speaks of a peace which surpasses understanding, as it is written.

Now if peace can surpass understanding, and that peace only comes from The Father, then peace seems to be a greater way. Surely it will be reflected in a man thoughts and words and actions.

Such a peace would seem to draw a man away from contention and strife and quarrels and endless debates.

Draw him towards desiring such a peace for oneself and such a peace for ones neighbor. that he and they may fulfill the greatest commandment of loving our neighbor as ourselves.

May you have a peaceful Sabbath OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370



They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14

they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.' Jeremiah 7:26

… Jeremiah 6:10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

... Zechariah 7:11 But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and stopped up their ears.

... Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

... Matthew 23:32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Indeed.

But Thanks be to God for the Good Sheppard.

His sheep belong to Him and no one else. They were given to him before the foundation of the world and He will loose none of them. Despite all the efforts of unborn men and devils.

Knowing such a thing brings me peace. A peace which surpasses all understanding.

May it bring you the same peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


their words are smoother than butter but war is in their hearts..peace peace they say....lol
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Hi, Neim. Exactly my thought. ... "Where are two in His name there is He as well".
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... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13479329


Oh yes it can and does. This we are promised.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine owne Name, those whom thou hast giuen mee, that they may bee one, as we are.
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LOL, is it you, Lucifer?

"GOD IS SPIRIT."

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