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Message Subject THE LAWLESS AND PERVERSE CHURCHES AND WHY MANY WILL NOT MAKE IT IN THE KINGDAOM
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Oh yes it can and does. This we are promised.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine owne Name, those whom thou hast giuen mee, that they may bee one, as we are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 908143


where do you get these teachings from? I mean come on!


and who is we?


the holy spirit is given unto those who obey his commands, that text messiah was referring to his apostles first to begin with.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Really look at the rest of the chapter or at least a bit further down

20 And I do not pray for these alone, but for those also who shall believe on Me through their word, 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be one in Us, so that the world may believe that You have sent Me. 22 And I have given them the glory which You have given Me, that they may be one, even as We are one, 23 I in them, and You in Me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that You have sent Me and have loved them as You have loved Me.

That's from the modern King James version. The Peshitta (and that's older than yours) says the same thing in an Syriac sort of way of coarse.

The bottom line is to pick our cross and follow him and he followed the Commandments so we are to do the same.

The next question is who here is without sin?
 Quoting: dschis1000


Not a single one of us. So how many of us are keeping the commandments then?

None.

So why does anyone have the right to be preaching to keep the commandments then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16701148


Didnt Moses sin? So how could he could he preach to keep the commandments? What about David? What about Jonah? How could these men tell others to keep the commandments when they (at least once) broke the commandments themselves? This is poor logic to hold IMO (no offense).
 
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