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you appear to be crying like a fire in the sun,, the light of consideration is all about you,, the love is still here and never left,,, nothing is wasted, and all is considered of light, and love,,, take a deap breath and breathe in the joy and smiles of those that are happy and full of joy, for they are you and me and will always be, like children on christmas morning, remember the excitement, the anticipation, ,,

the first kiss,,, the smell of blossom in spring, cut grass in summer,,

so dont feel the lack of light, about you, instead fan the flames of the love light , feel it know it own it,, its all for you,,
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You could be hitchhiking across the galaxy, dancing on stardust if you so chose.

I'd rather die infinite painful deaths in infinite dimensions then continue to live on a planet infested with minor demons feeding on angels and forgetful gods.


It's unfortunate that things have come to this, but it's not too late to turn things around.

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Quote :20/20 vision




He who is drowned is not troubled by the rain.

Rejoice in knowing that you are where you should be and understand that no matter how hard you try, many will still be waste. You can only change a world that is willing to change and few are willing to resign themselves, neither financially nor spiritually..

That heavy burden you feel is also your Grace. If you had no feelings then you would be as void.

Hold yourself in higher esteem, there are still many of worth who will make it too.



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I've always envisioned God appearing in a sickly dog. The world stepping over Him/Her and cursing the very presence of Him/Her due to their own arrogance and self righteousness.

The reason we find the world, our manufactured "culture", in it's present condition is due to a lack of compassion and creativity.

It did not have to be like this, indeed and it doesn't have to continue this way.

We had all the potential right in front of us all this time and we still do.

This seems so clearly obvious to me yet I have found myself in the presence of deaf ears when I dare mention this free will we are exercising it.

It is a burden, I feel it. It is very heavy.....

I literally shed tears reading the above quote from 20/20 vision

In my own experience, the weight is too heavy for the VAST majority of people willingly even contemplate let alone hold.

I have always felt no one gets out alone.

I don't know if that is true or even if I can allow myself to accept it if it were true, and that causes me a sense of hopelessness.

Not that we can't achieve something so much more, but that we simple won't.

I'm exhausted. This realm is too dense, in both senses of the term.

I know my problem lies in having constructed expectations to begin with. Acceptance is my lesson here, I suppose but how does one walk the thin line of acceptance without tipping over into apathy and would one know it if they saw it?

Live together, Die alone?

All for one and one for all?

I had a vivid dream of my role in the second coming, do you remember my role?

Perhaps it was only dream but everything has felt done before, many many times over. Deja Vu on steroids.

This time is different. I knew it. I know it. I've always known it.

The time is ripe with opportunity.

Now or ?

It's time to make the Quantum Leap. This is an auspicious moment in time.

Yet all this, and I'm too cloudy to know what is next or know how to position myself.

This realm is DENSE.

I welcome anyone who can shed some light for my consideration.
 Quoting: Sammie


Now is definitely the time. hf

Believe in one god.

You already have all the answers.

My judgement is in this link.

There's no way for me to get around this, all I can do is put the word out, and those who know will hear, those who read will know, and those who know will understand.

hf

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pennywise Did you know rabbi Kaduri's prophecy is the same story as the story of the Nobody ?

" Jesus is the messiah "

~ rabbi Yitzchak ( Isaac ) Kaduri

"It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah," Kaduri wrote before his death. "The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign."

Kaduri wrote that not all will believe in the Messiah - and that it will often be easier for non-religious people to accept him.

He also describes a Messiah who is, at first, not aware of his position.


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See, I tried to deny all the coincidences that started happening to me, and it started to drive me mad.

That's what happens when you deny reality.

I can't deny my life happened, that would be silly.

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I love my mother and father, how about you ?

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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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 Quoting: Sammie


applause2 BRAVOOOOOO!

I'd heard that a few months back, it's a good one.

Gotta love Shel, he was total clown





grinning you guys should see what it's like when time stops for you.
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Exactly

It's not about me, it's about uniting people under one god.

One human family

It's actually such a simple concept, at least you'd think, that it would already be how it is.

But for some reason it's not.

I don't care if people think I'm not real afro

What I do care about is that they reconsider their belief in god.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again:

Even atheists and agnostics are closer to god then those who make god in an image they find easy to look at, who hates/likes the same things they do.

How convenient for you. cool2

We live in the mind of god, and even disbelief in god is just another manifestation of god considering itself.

There are no atheists in reality, only deluded individuals.

Just like I was.

Didn't even believe god existed

Then I hated god for what god did to me in life

The truth was that I didn't hate god, and god didn't do any of those things to me in life.

How can a mere human hate something it has the smallest clue about ?

Nobody hates god, they hate themselves.

I have company, be back later.

hf
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 Quoting: Sammie


applause2 BRAVOOOOOO!

I'd heard that a few months back, it's a good one.

Gotta love Shel, he was total clown





grinning you guys should see what it's like when time stops for you.
 Quoting: !saac



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The Tribute to Woody is one of my all time favorite Bob Dylan songs, and that's not an easy thing to pin down to one favorite. Glad you enjoyed it again.


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Silverstein, YES! My dad had several LP's that I listened to a lot growing up. We are about the same age. I was born early Jan, 1974.

My dad is a huge audiophile so I was blessed growing up with amazing stereo equipment ( Klipsch Corner Horns, amps and pre-amps that cost more than my car and always a large room designated in house just for the audio equipment). Loads of LP's (like a darn music store), reel to reels, CD's eventually came as well.
The receiver always had a volume dial that was bigger than my hand :D, and it would blow out the neighbors windows, the end of the road, if you pushed the volume past the half way point.
Not the equipment's fault......I blame the poorly installed glass rattling around.

Anyway, thankfully I was blessed with an environment of great music appreciation and in variety of styles, from classical - opera - blue grass- funk- blues - jazz - rock -etc. Not a ton of western/ country except for the good stuff like Cash, Nelson and those guys.



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Here is song I recall hearing all the time growing up, usually waking to it on a Saturday morning at max tolerable (non window shattering) volume, much to my mother's dismay ( :P ). Poor mom, but she is a saint so she tolerates a lot when she can. Patience is a mother's gift or they learn it fast.

And it's so fitting to the culture we are currently residing in.








I had several of his books when I was younger but not sure they are now. I'm sure they are packed in boxes. We have TONS of books. We could start a library.




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I do know know where all of the LP's are and listened to a few recently after many years having set them side in favor of CD's and digital remastered audio recordings.

I was BLOWN away. Analog sounds fantastic!! I had forgotten. So had my dad. We just looked at each other with jaws dropped. Did is always sound this good? Of course it did....same LP's, same turntable, same Klipsch Corner Horns...even the same room. I believe the amp and pre-amp may have been replaced but if so the one's prior with also very high quality (specialty equipment).
So if you have not heard a vinyl LP in a while.... check it out.


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Loved the Last Poet Tune and had not heard it before. I even thought that it sounded like Gil Scott-Heron but I did not find a direct statement that he was in the band.

RIP Gil Scott-Heron. April 1, 1949 – May 27, 2011






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And I will raise your revolutionary artist of hip/hop rap (which is poorly generalized and misunderstood) with another one of my favorite but more recent hip-hop bands ..... from the early 90's.

They collaborated an album with William Burroughs. Need I say more?

I highly respect Burroughs, for all his greatness AND all his weakness, which of course, are almost always the exact same traits.











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Ok that should be enough to chew on at once.

Lol.




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"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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Lol, that's a big post.

Yeah Shel was a trip, I grew up around him, my mom was friends with him, he lived in Key West for a little while back in the 70's. We knew a lot of folks back then.

I was audiophile for a long time, but was too destitute to hang on to my possessions, or I gave them away, but I had some stuff years ago, original Bose 901's with gunnysack covering, definitely window-shakers.

afro
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


It must always be a silent assent, free from throng and undue influence.

It's what whispers silently as a uniting truth over separating and divergent victory.
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You could be hitchhiking across the galaxy, dancing on stardust if you so chose.

I'd rather die infinite painful deaths in infinite dimensions then continue to live on a planet infested with minor demons feeding on angels and forgetful gods.


It's unfortunate that things have come to this, but it's not too late to turn things around.

 Quoting: !saac




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Quote :20/20 vision




He who is drowned is not troubled by the rain.

Rejoice in knowing that you are where you should be and understand that no matter how hard you try, many will still be waste. You can only change a world that is willing to change and few are willing to resign themselves, neither financially nor spiritually..

That heavy burden you feel is also your Grace. If you had no feelings then you would be as void.

Hold yourself in higher esteem, there are still many of worth who will make it too.



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:jesuskillers:






I've always envisioned God appearing in a sickly dog. The world stepping over Him/Her and cursing the very presence of Him/Her due to their own arrogance and self righteousness.

The reason we find the world, our manufactured "culture", in it's present condition is due to a lack of compassion and creativity.

It did not have to be like this, indeed and it doesn't have to continue this way.

We had all the potential right in front of us all this time and we still do.

This seems so clearly obvious to me yet I have found myself in the presence of deaf ears when I dare mention this free will we are exercising it.

It is a burden, I feel it. It is very heavy.....

I literally shed tears reading the above quote from 20/20 vision

In my own experience, the weight is too heavy for the VAST majority of people willingly even contemplate let alone hold.

I have always felt no one gets out alone.

I don't know if that is true or even if I can allow myself to accept it if it were true, and that causes me a sense of hopelessness.

Not that we can't achieve something so much more, but that we simple won't.

I'm exhausted. This realm is too dense, in both senses of the term.

I know my problem lies in having constructed expectations to begin with. Acceptance is my lesson here, I suppose but how does one walk the thin line of acceptance without tipping over into apathy and would one know it if they saw it?

Live together, Die alone?

All for one and one for all?

I had a vivid dream of my role in the second coming, do you remember my role?

Perhaps it was only dream but everything has felt done before, many many times over. Deja Vu on steroids.

This time is different. I knew it. I know it. I've always known it.

The time is ripe with opportunity.

Now or ?

It's time to make the Quantum Leap. This is an auspicious moment in time.

Yet all this, and I'm too cloudy to know what is next or know how to position myself.

This realm is DENSE.

I welcome anyone who can shed some light for my consideration.
 Quoting: Sammie


Now is definitely the time. hf

Believe in one god.

You already have all the answers.

My judgement is in this link.

There's no way for me to get around this, all I can do is put the word out, and those who know will hear, those who read will know, and those who know will understand.

hf

[link to isaacslogic.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: !saac

So you are another here to fulfill the prophecy that MANY will come claiming to be Jesus?So that is it?You claim to be Jesus?You are delusional and a liar because Scripture proves beyond a doubt that you are NOT Jesus.
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Just last week you didn't know who you were. What gave you discernment this week? Something happen over the weekend?
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So you are another here to fulfill the prophecy that MANY will come claiming to be Jesus?So that is it?You claim to be Jesus?You are delusional and a liar because Scripture proves beyond a doubt that you are NOT Jesus.
 Quoting: Sammie


You are wrong.

I have Orion's belt where Christ was pierced.

And all the other proof.

See, something most people reading my posts don't realize ( because they haven't read my blog or posts ) is that up until 4 months ago I didn't know any of this stuff about my family, or myself.

Nothing.

I almost died from cancer, something happened to me one night, about 4 months ago ( On my blog ) I spent the next 3 or so days not sleeping, and the whole next 7 days fasting while I defecated the brain, lung, and heart cancer I was dying from.

I understand people can't see the things in front of their faces though, I did that my whole life too.

I don't take it personally, I know who I am.

Your scriptures are going to actually validate who I am.

cool2hf
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


It must always be a silent assent, free from throng and undue influence.

It's what whispers silently as a uniting truth over separating and divergent victory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


Of course, if not, then outside influences will taint the place between concept and construct.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Just last week you didn't know who you were. What gave you discernment this week? Something happen over the weekend?
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No, I knew 4 months ago, and I spent the next 4 months trying to deny my life and the things that were happening to me, to people around me, and to people in my life.

You just can't deny reality, it will drive you mad.

The only thing you can do is accept it.

Right ?

The problem here is that everybody want's the Nobody to show up, and when he does, nobody believes him.

What else am I supposed to do ?

Troll GLP ?

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So you are another here to fulfill the prophecy that MANY will come claiming to be Jesus?So that is it?You claim to be Jesus?You are delusional and a liar because Scripture proves beyond a doubt that you are NOT Jesus.
 Quoting: Sammie


You are wrong.

I have Orion's belt where Christ was pierced.

And all the other proof.

See, something most people reading my posts don't realize ( because they haven't read my blog or posts ) is that up until 4 months ago I didn't know any of this stuff about my family, or myself.

Nothing.

I almost died from cancer, something happened to me one night, about 4 months ago ( On my blog ) I spent the next 3 or so days not sleeping, and the whole next 7 days fasting while I defecated the brain, lung, and heart cancer I was dying from.

I understand people can't see the things in front of their faces though, I did that my whole life too.

I don't take it personally, I know who I am.

Your scriptures are going to actually validate who I am.

cool2hf
 Quoting: !saac

Tell us the Holy Scriptures that will prove you are Jesus.Go on?You are like all the rest coming out of the woodwork.Tell us which Scriptures and I will show you the ones that prove you are NOT Him!
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Just last week you didn't know who you were. What gave you discernment this week? Something happen over the weekend?
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No, I knew 4 months ago, and I spent the next 4 months trying to deny my life and the things that were happening to me, to people around me, and to people in my life.

You just can't deny reality, it will drive you mad.

The only thing you can do is accept it.

Right ?

The problem here is that everybody want's the Nobody to show up, and when he does, nobody believes him.

What else am I supposed to do ?

Troll GLP ?

shitstir2


 Quoting: !saac

another big mouthed delusional imbecile that claims to be God.Why should we be surprised.The Scriptures say MANY will do this just as the OP has done.
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Exactly

It's not about me, it's about uniting people under one god.

One human family

It's actually such a simple concept, at least you'd think, that it would already be how it is.

But for some reason it's not.

I don't care if people think I'm not real afro

What I do care about is that they reconsider their belief in god.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again:

Even atheists and agnostics are closer to god then those who make god in an image they find easy to look at, who hates/likes the same things they do.

How convenient for you. cool2

We live in the mind of god, and even disbelief in god is just another manifestation of god considering itself.

There are no atheists in reality, only deluded individuals.

Just like I was.

Didn't even believe god existed

Then I hated god for what god did to me in life

The truth was that I didn't hate god, and god didn't do any of those things to me in life.

How can a mere human hate something it has the smallest clue about ?

Nobody hates god, they hate themselves.

I have company, be back later.

hf
 Quoting: !saac




It's a sickness of the mind, manufactured and perpetuated by the business of social engineering. This system is not for the people or by the people but for a select few that require domination for survival (necessitated by their very own constructs) and the primary benefit of many corporations.

We have a built our own destruction and I assure you that the architects and most of the engineers were not ignorant of the inevitable conclusion / destination of this path.

The foot solders or the army ants, most unaware or unconcerned or feeling helpless, trapped due to having the illusion of socially promoted "choices" narrowed to such an extent that they were deluded by the lies/propaganda and/or simply felt they had to greasing the wheel of the cogs in that machine least they risk death (due to lack of illusionary, yet demanded money, in order to merely survive.

It's one thing to make the decision to drop out despite all costs to yourself because it is the morally right thing to do and integrity should always out weigh self-preservation.
That is simple logic, because we are our integrity / or character, here in this realm. It is WHO we are not What we are.

Yet you throw a wife / husband, kids into the equation and now you are in a position of effecting those very lives, most precious to you, to stand for YOUR cause, which may not be theirs. And then the plot thickens. Its tough. I can see that feeling of being damned if you do and damned if you dont.

We all know the simple and most obvious action is to simply STOP doing the crap that is feeding the non-living, non-sentient, artificial construct by NON-Violent opposition....which isnt picketing or political rallies but simply to STOP. No more participation in the things that aid in our own destruction. It's so simple, but I understand it can be complicated.

However, what is the alternative? Especially for those who see it for what it is. It's going to devour you and everyone around you anyway. Destruction is what this socio-economic system does. It is at the core of it's very nature.

So why throw all your integrity, character and morals out the window when the results will not even save your "precious" earthly vessel ?

It's illogical.....and I don't even have children...for this VERY reason.

So why do I feel so much more passionate about a insisting, perhaps at all cost to me personally...even my life, to stand in the gap for a better future.

I'm not invested here...well not in the manner that those who have children are....so why am I more passionate about the decent future for their children than they are.

I understand we are family and I should have deep concern for them, but why do they not have that same level when their most precious asset (children and grands) are the ultimate sacrifice for our lack of addressing this NOW.

Is it denial? Brainwashing ? Too heavy of a topic causing them discomfort and so they afford all together? Perhaps they think they can't take the risk of going mad like me :p ?

I personally feel blessed to be maddened by it, as it is a reminder that I have not lost my self, my sense of integrity or ability for compassion.

If I'm cut, I want to bleed. Otherwise I may as well be a machine void of all emotions. .... Assimilated !!

Is it because the reality is:
Too heavy. Too burdensome. Too much self-responsibility?
Too much risk to the ego and the sense of self?

Too much cognitive dissidence ?

We are all ready BATSHITCRAZY. You have to be insane to even function here and if you are not....you soon will be if you stick around.

We are in bizarro world and the lies / contradictions are so embedded in the psyche that most people may require horrific displays in order to snap out of this hypnosis.

This is really sad...... some of us really wish we did not have to witness it as it pains us at such deep levels to see unnecessary suffering. It's almost too much to bare at times.

Unnecessary suffering is pointless. Unnecessary suffering is a product of evil minds.

Death and sickness are natural. Death is a blessing, a great escape from the confines of the aging and decaying vessel.

But unnecessary suffering, is just heart wrenching for anyone who feels compassion and empathy for other living beings. It only adds insult to injury by being an artificially engineered system of suffering of the vast majority in exchange for the over abundance of a very small few, who would not even be able to spend their wealth in 100 life times, if they bought a new mansion, rare sports care, private jet and their own isolated tropical island everyday of the week. They can not possibly spend it all, yet they let hundreds of millions starve, go without shelter or basic medical treatment so they can continue hoarding ever increasing amounts of "wealth" (it's actually paper and digits on screen...counterfeit, no less, and illusionary....... 100% fabricated fairytales).

It's truly mind boggling. It's truly INSANE.

The illusion of "money" and the living dead zombie corporations are being worship while our own mankind, flesh and blood, is being cast aside with no value to their lives ... BY US....the very same people.
And the real people defend the non-living fabricated ideas over the living, flesh and blood sentient beings.

I'm sorry I dont get it!

I dont want to get it.

I hope it never makes sense.

I hope my heart always tugs and the pains churn my belly when I see living breathing beings being discarded as worthless meat suits, exploited for their very essence for the pursuit of greedily obtaining yet even more fantasy digits and paper that one can not even use.

This is evil, pure evil, imho.

There is no defense for it.

Although, they have hell of a lot of people willing to die for supporting that system than those who are willing to stand in the face of death for their own integrity, and the sanctity of humanity ......not even their human family but their naational family or even their own family.

The reason being...... can only be:

1. they are ignorant of reality
2. they are terrified to leave the devil they know.


All this insane destruction could stop this week, without a protest, a rally, or violence, or even leaving your home / community

It's simple. We just STOP.

Let the chips fall where the may.

Yeaa it creates other risks but we can deal with them.
We wont be perfect but we will have at least drastically slowed the current pace of heading over the cliff at 10,000 mph.

We know were screwed in our current path.

It's time to take risks. It's time to face reality. Face the fear of the unknown and Make the LEAP into the unknown.

Or get slaughtered.

Personally I think I'd rather break from the herd's path...either dodging left/right or sprint ahead of them and leap of the cliff myself.

At least it will have been my own choice and who knows, maybe I will find my wings when I take the leap and fly off into the distance.

My trouble is, my empathy and compassion makes me feel chained here. I have a sense of integrity that becomes paradoxical.

Never leave a man behind. Sacrifice self for others. Not to be self serving. To give rather than take. In which case, it makes the decision to save the self by leaping on my own, knowing how many I left behind.
If nothing more I could have been a kind word, a gentle touch, aa shoulder comfort in a time of need in final hours. Isn't that enough?

It's an internal struggle.

Perhaps over analyzing but I wish more people would devote time to considering the questions. No doubt the world would be a much better place simply from self-reflection alone.



ENd Rant

Last Edited by Sammie on 04/23/2012 08:26 PM
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We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



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Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
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Wow, we have both god and the ante christ and a smattering of nobodies. I'm guessing everyone involved has taken revised roman mythologies about the light and light bringers a tad too seriously?

Take a moment, maybe many moments and realize that collective will is not a phenomenon of one man imbued in many, but many men discoverig their commonalities.

Freedom can not be given, neither can the experience of doing for onesself what links man to man and makes him immortal and duty bound to rise.

All these poor simple souls believing something can be given misconstrue how we have sunk to the situation we are currently in.

Waiting for a Messiah is to already be stripped of your will and submission to expert opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14590672


I read you like this:

Take possession of your own destiny, do not wait for someone to create it for you.

To 'wait' for an exterior element to free your inner-self is a road that leads back on itself. It is circular...think lateral and spiral out...the deeper you seek the inner, the more expanded you Become.

Even if there were a messiah, he would be used as a catalyst to influence people to change, he would not be the change, though archetypical concepts would place him as that change.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Exactly

It's not about me, it's about uniting people under one god.

One human family

It's actually such a simple concept, at least you'd think, that it would already be how it is.

But for some reason it's not.

I don't care if people think I'm not real afro

What I do care about is that they reconsider their belief in god.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again:

Even atheists and agnostics are closer to god then those who make god in an image they find easy to look at, who hates/likes the same things they do.

How convenient for you. cool2

We live in the mind of god, and even disbelief in god is just another manifestation of god considering itself.

There are no atheists in reality, only deluded individuals.

Just like I was.

Didn't even believe god existed

Then I hated god for what god did to me in life

The truth was that I didn't hate god, and god didn't do any of those things to me in life.

How can a mere human hate something it has the smallest clue about ?

Nobody hates god, they hate themselves.

I have company, be back later.

hf
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It's a sickness of the mind, manufactured and perpetuated by the business of social engineering. This system is not for the people or by the people but for a select few that require domination for survival (necessitated by their very own constructs) and the primary benefit of many corporations.

We have a built our own destruction and I assure you that the architects and most of the engineers were not ignorant of the inevitable conclusion / destination of this path.

The foot solders or the army ants, most unaware or unconcerned or feeling helpless, trapped due to having the illusion of socially promoted "choices" narrowed to such an extent that they were deluded by the lies/propaganda and/or simply felt they had to greasing the wheel of the cogs in that machine least they risk death (due to lack of illusionary, yet demanded money, in order to merely survive.

It's one thing to make the decision to drop out despite all costs to yourself because it is the morally right thing to do and integrity should always out weigh self-preservation.
That is simple logic, because we are our integrity / or character, here in this realm. It is WHO we are not What we are.

Yet you throw a wife / husband, kids into the equation and now you are in a position of effecting those very lives, most precious to you, to stand for YOUR cause, which may not be theirs. And then the plot thickens. Its tough. I can see that feeling of being damned if you do and damned if you dont.

We all know the simple and most obvious action is to simply STOP doing the crap that is feeding the non-living, non-sentient, artificial construct by NON-Violent opposition....which isnt picketing or political rallies but simply to STOP. No more participation in the things that aid in our own destruction. It's so simple, but I understand it can be complicated.

However, what is the alternative? Especially for those who see it for what it is. It's going to devour you and everyone around you anyway. Destruction is what this socio-economic system does. It is at the core of it's very nature.

So why throw all your integrity, character and morals out the window when the results will not even save your "precious" earthly vessel ?

It's illogical.....and I don't even have children...for this VERY reason.

So why do I feel so much more passionate about a insisting, perhaps at all cost to me personally...even my life, to stand in the gap for a better future.

I'm not invested here...well not in the manner that those who have children are....so why am I more passionate about the decent future for their children than they are.

I understand we are family and I should have deep concern for them, but why do they not?

Is it denial? Brainwashing ? Too heavy of a topic causing them discomfort and so they afford all together? Perhaps they think they can't take the risk of going mad like me :p ?
Too heavy. Too burdensome. Too much self-responsibility?
Too much risk to the ego and the sense of self?

Too much cognitive dissidence ?

We are all ready BATSHITCRAZY. You have insane to even function here and if you aare not....you soon will be if you stick around.

We are in bizarro world and the lies / contradictions are so embedded in the psyche that most people may require horrific displays in order to snap out of this hypnosis.

This is really sad...... some of us really wish we did not have to witness it as it pains us at such deep levels to see unnecessary suffering. It's almost too much to bare at times.

Suffering is bd. Suffering is evil. Death and sickness are natural. Death is a blessing, a great escape from the confines of the aging and decaying vessel.

But unnecessary suffering, is just heart wrenching for anyone who feels compassion and empathy for other living beings. It only adds insult to injury by being an artificially engineered system of suffering of the vast majority in exchange for the over abundance of a very small few, who would not even be able to spend their wealth in 100 life times, if they bought a new mansion, rare sports care, private jet and their own isolated tropical island everyday of the week. They can not possibly spend it all, yet they let hundreds of millions starve, go without shelter or basic medical treatment so they can continue hoarding ever increasing amounts of "wealth" (it's actually paper and digits on screen...counterfeit, no less, and illusionary....... 100% fabricated fairytales).

It's truly mind boggling. It's truly INSANE.

The illusion of "money" and the living dead zombie corporations are being worship while our own mankind, flesh and blood, is being cast aside with no value to their lives ... BY US....the very same people.
And the real people defend the non-living fabricated ideas over the living, flesh and blood sentient beings.

I'm sorry I dont get it!

I dont want to get it.

I hope it never makes sense.

I hope my heart always tugs and the pains churn my belly when I see living breathing beings being discarded as worthless meat suits, exploited for their very essence for the pursuit of greedily obtaining yet even more fantasy digits and paper that one can not even use.

This is evil, pure evil, imho.

There is no defense for it.

Although, they have hell of a lot of people willing to die for supporting that system than those who are willing to stand in the face of death for their own integrity, and the sanctity of humanity ......not even their human family but their naational family or even their own family.

The reason being...... can only be:

1. they are ignorant of reality
2. they are terrified to leave the devil they know.


All this insane destruction could stop this week, without a protest, a rally, or violence, or even leaving your home / community

It's simple. We just STOP.

Let the chips fall where the may.

Yeaa it creates other risks but we can deal with them.
We wont be perfect but we will have at least drastically slowed the current pace of heading over the cliff at 10,000 mph.

We know were screwed in our current path.

It's time to take risks. It's time to face reality. Face the fear of the unknown and Make the LEAP into the unknown.

Or get slaughtered.

Personally I think I'd rather break from the herd's path...either dodging left/right or sprint ahead of them and leap of the cliff myself.

At least it will have been my own choice and who knows, maybe I will find my wings when I take the leap and fly off into the distance.

My trouble is, my empathy and compassion makes me feel chained here. I have a sense of integrity that becomes paradoxical.

Never leave a man behind. Sacrifice self for others. Not to be self serving. To give rather than take. In which case, it makes the decision to save the self by leaping on my own, knowing how many I left behind.
If nothing more I could have been a kind word, a gentle touch, aa shoulder comfort in a time of need in final hours. Isn't that enough?

It's an internal struggle.

Perhaps over analyzing but I wish more people would devote time to considering the questions. No doubt the world would be a much better place simply from self-reflection alone.



ENd Rant
 Quoting: Sammie


I understand you completely, empathy and intuition are something people can struggle with, I know I did.

I literally feel what people are feeling when I'm near them.

When we deny intuitive thought, we are denying the very mind of god, and it's only our ego that gives us a second opinion, which is doubt.

Then we say " Aww man, I knew I should have picked those other numbers that popped into my head ".

cool2 every time

Self, ego, both cause separation from god.

Our brains have our thoughts before we perceive them, 6-8 seconds.

We are surrounded by god, living in god, and we are only separated from this by our egos.

When I pray ( Talk to the universe ) I only pray for other people to come into the light of knowing god.

I don't need to ask for things for them, god knows what we need, and we have everything we need, at any given time, except what most don't have, is belief in god.

Want is a product of the human mind/ego, but also other beings, as hard as that might be to believe.

I lived in hell for 39 years because I didn't know these things and more.

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opps, i edited after reply..

didnt get to edit all the spell checks but added a couple of things, an corrected some errors sticking out in the first 1/3.

The dogs and my man are ready to eat dinner. So I will be back to check in after a while.


A tune for now:

Beautiful song.

Hope you enjoy it


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We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



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Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
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Just last week you didn't know who you were. What gave you discernment this week? Something happen over the weekend?
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No, I knew 4 months ago, and I spent the next 4 months trying to deny my life and the things that were happening to me, to people around me, and to people in my life.

You just can't deny reality, it will drive you mad.

The only thing you can do is accept it.

Right ?

The problem here is that everybody want's the Nobody to show up, and when he does, nobody believes him.

What else am I supposed to do ?

Troll GLP ?

shitstir2


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As I said.Another delusional fool who claims to be God and when challenged to show us the Scripture he claims proves he is God they go quiet.
You need to put yourself into a hospital before you get hurt or hurt someone else.As things get worse your delusion will become stronger.
You are NOT Jesus and although there is nothing anyone will say to convince you the fact remains you are NOT Him and can be proved through Scripture that you are NOT Him.
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Deep !
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It's not deep, just heathen, the heathen love to ramble garbage like that and people think it's "deep", it's bloody shallow and stupid.
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Just last week you didn't know who you were. What gave you discernment this week? Something happen over the weekend?
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No, I knew 4 months ago, and I spent the next 4 months trying to deny my life and the things that were happening to me, to people around me, and to people in my life.

You just can't deny reality, it will drive you mad.

The only thing you can do is accept it.

Right ?

The problem here is that everybody want's the Nobody to show up, and when he does, nobody believes him.

What else am I supposed to do ?

Troll GLP ?

shitstir2


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As I said.Another delusional fool who claims to be God and when challenged to show us the Scripture he claims proves he is God they go quiet.
You need to put yourself into a hospital before you get hurt or hurt someone else.As things get worse your delusion will become stronger.
You are NOT Jesus and although there is nothing anyone will say to convince you the fact remains you are NOT Him and can be proved through Scripture that you are NOT Him.
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Actually it's you that's the delusional fool.

Prove I'm not Jesus.

popcorn
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Deep !
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It's not deep, just heathen, the heathen love to ramble garbage like that and people think it's "deep", it's bloody shallow and stupid.
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You have made an opinion of me without reading my blog, or accepting the things that happened to me as truth.

You have an opinion of me without even knowing me as a person.

The height of hypocrisy, no ?

You can't accept the things about me as truth because it makes you think about the fact you've been wrong about some things.

Anger will lead you to hell

Do you have any more insults for me ?

popcorn
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Prove I'm not Jesus.

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Jesus, would answer this question easily. Where (city, state) was I born in?

popcorn
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Prove I'm not Jesus.

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Jesus, would answer this question easily. Where (city, state) was I born in?

popcorn
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You don't know what I am, nor do you know what Jesus was or what happened to him.

All you have are your misconceptions and assumptions.

I don't do parlor tricks.

If that's what turns you away from me, so be it.

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Prove I'm not Jesus.

popcorn
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Jesus, would answer this question easily. Where (city, state) was I born in?

popcorn
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You don't know what I am, nor do you know what Jesus was or what happened to him.

All you have are your misconceptions and assumptions.

I don't do parlor tricks.

If that's what turns you away from me, so be it.

popcorn hf
 Quoting: !saac


Oh !saac, as a matter of fact, I have much interest in you. (Not in a weird, or deviant way.) Lol... I do believe that some are coming to the pinnacle of understanding. I could be wrong, it's just the way of things, so to speak.

A sixth sense, so to speak, will come to others while most tool along everyday, not noticing things.

Things are changing, a lot feel it. Mentally, physically, spiritually, some are "awakening." This is something that is happening.

You seem to be "one." Just don't let it get to your head. A war is going on, (I believe), and certain warriors are being chosen. That is all my friend...

hf
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One world, one people, one heart under one god.

That's all we need.

Pretty simple.

You are against a united planet for what reasons ?

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I'm not saying OP is or isnt.

It doesnt matter what I think. The truth is always truth. Truth does not require my belief or your belief. Truth simply is.

So again, it's not my point to proof him, disprove him or belief or not to belief.

But to ridicule, slander, judge and belittle someone purely due to a knee jerk reaction based on no facts while residing in this current realm of disinformation...is well, frankly, self-righteous and rude.


I understand the reason for doubt. It's a hell of a claim and this is GLP and ...well, the rest goes without saying.



My point is, NO ONE KNOWS how GOD will appear, where, when, in what form or if he will speak through many people or simply one.

Seriously, you guys simply DO NOT KNOW.

You may have your own beliefs that are not fitting into the OP's story, but you have no claim of ownership to the deed of Truth.

Thus, I think it's ridiculous to mock and verbally attack someone based on nothing but biased, subjective opinion which you have to admit have no authenticity of Truth other than perhaps having an "accepted" opinion of the masses (whom are usually wrong ), or maybe even simply a small peer group.


In short, I don't think there is any reason to be bashing on the OP with hateful remarks. Simply ignore the thread and refrain from judging others.

It's simply unnecessary and I don't think it's accomplishing much for you or anyone else.

The only possible thing this reactive behavior could possibly accomplish for someone is engaging in the act of "really stepping in it", if for some reason (regardless of the possibility odds), that you re wrong and spat in the face of the creator and or his son.

Personally I believe God has no reason for us to believe or disbelieve. To me, God simply is (or maybe is not). I simply do not know.

However, I do believe that a creator would not require my belief. Truth simply is. It does not require my approval or disapproval.

I'm suspect of any deity that demands my worship under the threats of damnation. It seems logical that only false deities would require worship and leap of faith beliefs with threats of harm for my non-compliance or doubt. This is due to the fact that false gods are not eternal. They only exist if people believe in them, thus no worship = death for false god's, as they are not truth. Only truth can stand on it's own without supports.

That is how I feel. It's not knowledge or fact. I could be wrong. My doubt keeps me honest and prevents knee jerk judgement that I have to all figured out when obviously none of us do.

Judge not.

It doesn't mean you should believe simply because it was stated. It simply means you shouldn't disbelieve simply because it was stated.

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But what if...
God really did die and that's why things are the way they are now... hmmm. Abandoned little children left open to all the horrors of the universe. Poor things :(





GLP