Joel Osteen "America's Pastor"

NO this was NEVER EVER Taught by GOD or JESUS. For it is a LIE. And a lot of stuff even in the OT, is the miserably misunderstanding of that group of people in those days, so miserable that is one reason for choosing that area for the Incarnation. The orientals and those in Western Hemisphere at the time were fr advanced of that, and even in India they were too.

NOBODY can DIE for your sins. And only people who are working on purpose against God knowingly, sin. all the other stuff is errors in judgement while the soul is learning.

The Holy Spirit within, is the FATHER FRAGMENT which is FIRST PERSON TRINITY making YOU a SON of the FATHER. A Faith Son at first, and a real son later on in the evolutionary journey. Once you know enough truth and have had enough life experience to make a real choice to pursue eternity, your MIND/Soul will MERGE with your FAther Fragment, which if done WHILE embodied, will consume the body. This very thing doesn't happen much on this world and if witnessed, most would assume you were just murdered by God, from the bright flash produced.

Eternity is a long long time. There are beings already trillions of years old. It is not this simple. Your FATHEr FRAGMENT is NOT EVEN INVITED BY YOU. If this is your first life, it shows up automatically when you make your first real MORAL decision, and on this planet, the average age for that is 5.

You ones are not told truth. I find it worse than sad because this delusion actually slows your soul growth,, which IS the satanic idea.

Jesus was never the name of the Christed Ones that came anyway 2000 years ago. Now I ask, in honesty, what about all those born into other religions and cultures? They go to hell right? NO. They have the same opportunity to learn about the GOD within as do you. Has NOTHING to do with"believing" ON the name Jesus . It does involve consciously learning to walk in the shoes of GOD so that you manifest him on this world. the Joel Osteen types do not teach that, at all. They keep you from discovering yourself.

He did NOT rise from the DEAD. He never DIED, meaning his body. How does a BODY rise from the dead, you hve confused this great soul with the body. NONE of you are your BODY. You are your SPIRIT. and the way your describe your holy spirit within, while laudable in a sense, you have just ignored your own soul/spirit that is still separate from your Father Fragment.

Do you MEDITATE? IF SO, congratulations. If you have truly "heard" your Father Fragment (which again is not the Holy Spirit, not the 3rd person trinity,, but it doesn't matter so much), this means that you had your MIND quieted enough that your FAther Fragment, could get a world in edgewise.

You ones have got to stop separating and making yourselves Special and Different from all your other brothers and sisters trying to know god on this planet. And I highly am appalled with that. That is why I asked above how about Muslims et all.

Thats RIGHT.

Cant come to the father UNLESS we first beleive in Jesus..and we CANT beleive in Jesus UNLESS the FATHER reveals him to us...and the father WONT reveal Jesus TO us unless we beleive in Jesus...

And NO one can come to the father UNLESS they are drawn..and if they are not DRAWN..then God will BURN THEM IN HELL FOREVER IN UNRELENTING HEARTLESS MERCILEESS TORTURE for DARING to NOT beleive...even though their NOT BELEIVING was a direct result of God NOT ALLOWING them to beleive..

Yeah..its a fair system.

only those who enter God's covenant via belief in Jesus Christ -- that He died for our sins and rose from the dead to provide us the free gift of eternal life -- have the Holy Spirit within

it is not a default position for all. we have to ask Him to come in by believing in Jesus.

love rb

God doesn't send you to hell, you do. And if you want fair, every time you drink you get a DUI, every time you exceed the speed limit by one mile and hour, you get a ticket, every time there is lightning your house gets struck and burns down as well, with every tornado all are killed...no survivors. Do you really want "fairness". Life is unfair to see if you have a pair of balls.

NO this was NEVER EVER Taught by GOD or JESUS. For it is a LIE. And a lot of stuff even in the OT, is the miserably misunderstanding of that group of people in those days, so miserable that is one reason for choosing that area for the Incarnation. The orientals and those in Western Hemisphere at the time were fr advanced of that, and even in India they were too.

NOBODY can DIE for your sins. And only people who are working on purpose against God knowingly, sin. all the other stuff is errors in judgement while the soul is learning.

The Holy Spirit within, is the FATHER FRAGMENT which is FIRST PERSON TRINITY making YOU a SON of the FATHER. A Faith Son at first, and a real son later on in the evolutionary journey. Once you know enough truth and have had enough life experience to make a real choice to pursue eternity, your MIND/Soul will MERGE with your FAther Fragment, which if done WHILE embodied, will consume the body. This very thing doesn't happen much on this world and if witnessed, most would assume you were just murdered by God, from the bright flash produced.

Eternity is a long long time. There are beings already trillions of years old. It is not this simple. Your FATHEr FRAGMENT is NOT EVEN INVITED BY YOU. If this is your first life, it shows up automatically when you make your first real MORAL decision, and on this planet, the average age for that is 5.

You ones are not told truth. I find it worse than sad because this delusion actually slows your soul growth,, which IS the satanic idea.

Jesus was never the name of the Christed Ones that came anyway 2000 years ago. Now I ask, in honesty, what about all those born into other religions and cultures? They go to hell right? NO. They have the same opportunity to learn about the GOD within as do you. Has NOTHING to do with"believing" ON the name Jesus . It does involve consciously learning to walk in the shoes of GOD so that you manifest him on this world. the Joel Osteen types do not teach that, at all. They keep you from discovering yourself.

He did NOT rise from the DEAD. He never DIED, meaning his body. How does a BODY rise from the dead, you hve confused this great soul with the body. NONE of you are your BODY. You are your SPIRIT. and the way your describe your holy spirit within, while laudable in a sense, you have just ignored your own soul/spirit that is still separate from your Father Fragment.

Do you MEDITATE? IF SO, congratulations. If you have truly "heard" your Father Fragment (which again is not the Holy Spirit, not the 3rd person trinity,, but it doesn't matter so much), this means that you had your MIND quieted enough that your FAther Fragment, could get a world in edgewise.

You ones have got to stop separating and making yourselves Special and Different from all your other brothers and sisters trying to know god on this planet. And I highly am appalled with that. That is why I asked above how about Muslims et all.

Most people dont beleive in either heaven or hell.

So are they choosing hell by default?

Is god going to torture needlessly and for the sake of being cruel...billions of people that didnt even MAKE a choice?

Isnt a "CHOICE" defined as having THE FACTS in front of you..and KNWOING fully well what EACH fact entails..then making a WELL informed CHOICE??

How can ANYONE do that when it comes to HELL?

Most people dont even beleive in such a place...and they are right.

If I was to take you into a torture dungeon filled with racks and spikes and red hot pokers ect..and said to you "LOVE me..be my friend..have a personal relationship with me...cause if you DONT...this torture chamber will be put to full use on YOU for not accepting my offer. Its a reasonable offer too..all you have to do is beleive in me and love me..OR..you get horribly tortured over and over with NO way of stopping it...because once I get torturing I just CANT STOP...so please..its a gift..free will choice..love ME..or..TORTURE..take your pick....NO pressure..really..

When they say "I didnt KNOW about your basement..PLEASE have mercy"

I will tell them..

But you AUTOMATICALLY CHOSE to be tortured forever..its YOUR fault...free will an all"

And they will say..the ones that DID know about the basement because I told them..

"THIS is WHY we didnt want to be your friend because you are a torturing EVIL SADIST"

I will say "Well..thats YOUR choice to believe that..this torture I do (As I slowly peel the skin of their faces) is all done in LOVE because I am SUCH a holy being...even TORTURE and AGONY are holy to me"

God doesn't send you to hell, you do. And if you want fair, every time you drink you get a DUI, every time you exceed the speed limit by one mile and hour, you get a ticket, every time there is lightning your house gets struck and burns down as well, with every tornado all are killed...no survivors. Do you really want "fairness". Life is unfair to see if you have a pair of balls.

It's all old ladies sending in their social security money, that's where 95% of that 20 million came from,... or crazy people.

Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, it's all about duping senile old people.

OOPS - Oprah called him "America's Preacher, and or the WORLD'S PREACHER." HMMMMMMMMMM.

The Bible does not focus on the details of life eternal, only that it will be wonderful, pain and sorrow free.