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Message Subject Joel Osteen "America's Pastor"
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only those who enter God's covenant via belief in Jesus Christ -- that He died for our sins and rose from the dead to provide us the free gift of eternal life -- have the Holy Spirit within

it is not a default position for all. we have to ask Him to come in by believing in Jesus.

love rb
 Quoting: rb 2426617


NO this was NEVER EVER Taught by GOD or JESUS. For it is a LIE. And a lot of stuff even in the OT, is the miserably misunderstanding of that group of people in those days, so miserable that is one reason for choosing that area for the Incarnation. The orientals and those in Western Hemisphere at the time were fr advanced of that, and even in India they were too.

NOBODY can DIE for your sins. And only people who are working on purpose against God knowingly, sin. all the other stuff is errors in judgement while the soul is learning.

The Holy Spirit within, is the FATHER FRAGMENT which is FIRST PERSON TRINITY making YOU a SON of the FATHER. A Faith Son at first, and a real son later on in the evolutionary journey. Once you know enough truth and have had enough life experience to make a real choice to pursue eternity, your MIND/Soul will MERGE with your FAther Fragment, which if done WHILE embodied, will consume the body. This very thing doesn't happen much on this world and if witnessed, most would assume you were just murdered by God, from the bright flash produced.

Eternity is a long long time. There are beings already trillions of years old. It is not this simple. Your FATHEr FRAGMENT is NOT EVEN INVITED BY YOU. If this is your first life, it shows up automatically when you make your first real MORAL decision, and on this planet, the average age for that is 5.

You ones are not told truth. I find it worse than sad because this delusion actually slows your soul growth,, which IS the satanic idea.

Jesus was never the name of the Christed Ones that came anyway 2000 years ago. Now I ask, in honesty, what about all those born into other religions and cultures? They go to hell right? NO. They have the same opportunity to learn about the GOD within as do you. Has NOTHING to do with"believing" ON the name Jesus . It does involve consciously learning to walk in the shoes of GOD so that you manifest him on this world. the Joel Osteen types do not teach that, at all. They keep you from discovering yourself.

He did NOT rise from the DEAD. He never DIED, meaning his body. How does a BODY rise from the dead, you hve confused this great soul with the body. NONE of you are your BODY. You are your SPIRIT. and the way your describe your holy spirit within, while laudable in a sense, you have just ignored your own soul/spirit that is still separate from your Father Fragment.

Do you MEDITATE? IF SO, congratulations. If you have truly "heard" your Father Fragment (which again is not the Holy Spirit, not the 3rd person trinity,, but it doesn't matter so much), this means that you had your MIND quieted enough that your FAther Fragment, could get a world in edgewise.

You ones have got to stop separating and making yourselves Special and Different from all your other brothers and sisters trying to know god on this planet. And I highly am appalled with that. That is why I asked above how about Muslims et all.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


um according to the Bible your claim Jesus did not rise from the dead makes you antichrist even disregarding your myriad other nonbiblical teachings

love ya anyway, but yer a nut!

rb
 Quoting: rb 14568231


BEFORE YOU CONTINUE WITH SUCH STATEMENTs, READ the BOOKS I posted. It takes far less time than the bible. BODIES DO NOT RISE FROM THE DEAD. SOULS DO. THESE BODIES DO NOT GO TO HEAVEN. HE DID NOT DIE> THE BIBLE IS NOT CORRECT. His own apostles knew that. He told them before the crucifixion that he was only be in a coma. THEY KNEW. That it is NOT in your bible is not my problem. THEY KNEW HE LEFT IN A FLYING SAUCER and some of them even went to find in him Syria around 2 years later to tell him what was going on in his name. You can read about that in the Phoenix Journal link. PEOPLE ARE KEPT DUMB AS SHIT ON PURPOSE as part of the antichrist enslavement of this world. God does not work how you are taught in your churches. IT IS NOT ALLOWED EVEN. WHEN some of them start teaching truth even in modern times like about 911 and corruption they have problems which can include blowing up churches or deaths of important members. But the truth is ONLINE and you CAN READ it. STOP CHOOSING TO BE UNIFORMED.

I know both that played the role of Jesus. We together created the official 2nd Coming organization AbundantHope. I would also highly suggest you work thru all the linkys in my signature file which are going to stay there for awhile now. We are giving information never given to this planet. throw away the bible, bury it in the ground and get the truth. Your very souls depend on KNOWING, otherwise your journey is delayed.

Bodies can be resurrected, this is true. Mine has been few times now because of the work I do, I have been thru several murder attempts and I was not treated in hospitals. My body was repaired. But these bodies do NOT go to HEAVEN, they do not survive in the higher frequencies. When you get to those worlds, you are given NEW BODIES. And those bodies do not require toilets, something to ponder. They are not animal bodies.
 
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