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Venus and Jupiter Conjuntion Rates Disinfo

 
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How many times it should happens?

If you do a web search, you'll find lot of garbage disnfos such it happens every 13 months or every 2 years as well.

Now before answer properly, at least you need to know what is the real definition of a conjunction which has a clear explanation.

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How many times it should happens?

If you do a web search, you'll find lot of garbage infos such it happens every 13 months and every 2 years as well.

Now before answer properly, at least you need to know what is the real definition of a conjunction.
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Folks, for example take a look at this: [link to www.thedailyplanet.com]

You'll find an image with a description of the right rate till now:

'A conjunction between Jupiter and Venus can be seen in this photo taken in 2008.' COURESTY CREATIVE COMMONS


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Folks, for example take a look at this: [link to www.thedailyplanet.com]

You'll find an image with a description of the right rate till now.
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And notice what the article has reported:

'Paul Delaney, a professor of physics and astronomy at York University, said conjunctions between Jupiter and Venus happen approximately once every two years.'

PS - Interesting how the shills comes here quickly on my thread as always, where is your friend astrobilltard?

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Anyone else without posting garbage like that please?

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The shills already PROMISSED that the brightness of Venus will start to reduce from the middle of THIS week (Wednesday, I guess).

If the brightness doesn't reduce, and Venus keeps very bright, I will tell the shills to FUCK OFF!
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How many times it should happens?

If you do a web search, you'll find lot of garbage disnfos such it happens every 13 months or every 2 years as well.

Now before answer properly, at least you need to know what is the real definition of a conjunction which has a clear explanation.
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There is more than one definition of conjunction here. Longitude or right ascension. But the answer will be the same.

There are 93 conjunctions of Venus and Jupiter between Jan 1, 2001 and Jan 1, 2101. Every 13 months. From Solex 11.0 ( I just ran it). [link to chemistry.unina.it]

I'll post the output file, and you can compare to the NASA eclipse page. Here are some:
Date, time, and degree of separation at conjunction.

2001/08/05 22:51:00 1.19371
2002/06/03 23:12:35 1.63638
2003/08/21 10:24:14 0.52956
2004/11/05 02:11:37 0.54814
2005/09/01 23:31:31 1.22645
2006/11/15 20:36:13 0.42958
2008/02/01 11:34:29 0.58949
2008/12/01 08:45:40 2.01327
2010/02/17 02:15:18 0.53495
2011/05/11 14:43:11 0.56795
2013/05/28 19:29:58 0.99939
2014/08/18 05:22:25 0.1983
2015/07/01 07:51:54 0.34482
2015/10/25 20:04:17 1.03222
2016/08/27 22:29:43 0.06668
2017/11/13 08:16:39 0.26212
2019/01/22 12:26:58 2.40873
2019/11/24 13:34:37 1.40581
2021/02/11 15:00:45 0.43032
2022/04/30 21:15:05 0.23043
2023/03/02 05:37:03 0.48964
2024/05/23 08:30:20 0.19055
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Note: mine were conjunctions in ecliptic longitude, when the longitudes were the same. Another definition uses for a reference a plane though the equator of the Earth (the equatorial system).
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I made a mistake, only including conjunctions with the planets were within 3 degrees of each other. Without that restriction, there are 100, not 93, in the century. One per year.

Here some are:

2001/08/05 22:51:00 1.19371
2002/06/03 23:12:35 1.63638
2003/08/21 10:24:14 0.52956
2004/11/05 02:11:37 0.54814
2005/09/01 23:31:31 1.22645
2006/11/15 20:36:13 0.42958
2008/02/01 11:34:29 0.58949
2008/12/01 08:45:40 2.01327
2010/02/17 02:15:18 0.53495
2011/05/11 14:43:11 0.56795
2012/03/14 05:55:23 3.01084
2013/05/28 19:29:58 0.99939
2014/08/18 05:22:25 0.1983
2015/07/01 07:51:54 0.34482
2015/08/04 21:47:58 6.9252
2015/10/25 20:04:17 1.03222
2016/08/27 22:29:43 0.06668
2017/11/13 08:16:39 0.26212
2019/01/22 12:26:58 2.40873
2019/11/24 13:34:37 1.40581
2021/02/11 15:00:45 0.43032
2022/04/30 21:15:05 0.23043
2023/03/02 05:37:03 0.48964
2024/05/23 08:30:20 0.19055
2025/08/12 05:31:21 0.86172
2026/06/09 20:00:21 1.60813
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Now before answer properly, at least you need to know what is the real definition of a conjunction which has a clear explanation.
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In astronomy, the definition of a planetary conjunction is whenever two planets pass each onother.

SO there are two specific cases:

- superior conjunction

- inferior conjunction

Period.

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Now before answer properly, at least you need to know what is the real definition of a conjunction which has a clear explanation.
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In astronomy, the definition of a planetary conjunction is whenever two planets pass each onother.

SO there are two specific cases:

- superior conjunction

- inferior conjunction

Period.
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Pass each other from what perspective?

Venus and Mercury reach inferior conjunction (from our perspective) when they have the same geocentric longitude as the Sun, and are closer to us than the

Sun. An outer planet cannot reach inferior conjunction. In a superior conjunction their geocentric longitudes are also the same as the Sun but they are farther from us than the Sun.

But those terms are not used in reference to the positions of two planets as seen from Earth, which is what is the issue in this post.

According to Astronomical Algorithms, by Jean Meeus, By definition, conjunction is the phenomenon in which two bodies have the same apparent right ascension or celestial longitude as viewed from a third body (generally the Earth.)

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Fun fact: Venus and Jupiter are in conjunction (in longitude) with respect to the Sun 155 times from Jan. 1, 2001 to Jan. 1, 2101.





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