TATOOS! THE AZAZEL TREND WHICH MANY MODERN DAY CHURCH ATTENDEES PARTAKE OF THIS EVIL

So, even though these laws do not apply to me, I feel it is necessary to comment on your fundamental lack of scholarship. How you have associated Azazel to the command from your god is beyond me, aside from the fact that he taught the use of pigments. The fact that these laws applied to the Levites, alone, shows a distinct lack of knowledge or a blatant disregard for them.

Now, I agree in part with what you suggest. The people in church try to be worldly. My recommendation is not that they should cease this, though. I would actually recommend they abandon a sunk ship altogether. In other words, please stop behaving like something you are not. Half assing your religion is corrupting civilization by allowing people who wish to enslave themselves to run around and interact with free men and women who wish to remain independent of your herd.

wiggle wiggle1 once something in the books opposes your self desire you say it is twisted.You post a lot of things against the new age chritian movement, now you suddenly have distaste for the truth because you inking

I haven't had any work done in years. I am not calling your thoughts twisted...but am simply stating I have seen people in the past try to twist verses into fitting their lifestyles.

My lifestyle doesn't include tattoos, but I am not going to judge someone for getting work done either.

The first 3 lines of chapter 19 tells us exactly who is being spoken to and who the laws are for.

Lev 19:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy. 3Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God. 4Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.

Please show me where this is specifically to the Levite Priests?

Well, if I am not mistaken, the majority of the herd are not jewish people. I also understand that a new covenant was made that goes something like "love the lord your god with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself" but even that is a little difficult for most sheep.

So, if we are getting into interpretation of scripture, let me suggest that it is all a wonderful fiction borrowed from older religions, meant to comfort those who refuse to accept nature as it is or are to meek to live on their own.

Well, if I am not mistaken, the majority of the herd are not jewish people. I also understand that a new covenant was made that goes something like "love the lord your god with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself" but even that is a little difficult for most sheep.

So, if we are getting into interpretation of scripture, let me suggest that it is all a wonderful fiction borrowed from older religions, meant to comfort those who refuse to accept nature as it is or are to meek to live on their own.

You are correct, the majority of the tribes are not the Jewish people. Only the Israeilites of the Tribe of Judah who have returned to Gd are Jewish people AND Israelite. The rest of the Tribes are Israelites alone. When we take up our cross and follow Messiah, we(gentiles and descendants of Judah) are grafted into the Tribe of Judah through Him (Messiah was of the Tribe of Judah)unless we are descendants of another tribe at which time we are just Israelites of whichever tribe we are descended from.

The laws of Lev 19 are for all Israelites. Both of Judah and the other tribes.

Therefore this applies to anyone who follows Messiah.

you preaching it? good very good

You are correct, the majority of the tribes are not the jeweish people. Only the Israeilites of the Tribe of Judah who have returned to Gd are Jewish people AND Israelite. The rest of the Tribes are Israelites alone. When we take up our cross and follow Messiah, we are grafted into the Tribe of Judah through Him (Messiah was of the Tribe of Judah)unless we are descendants of another tribe at which time we are just Israelites of whichever tribe we are descended from.

The laws of Lev 19 are for all Israelites. Both of Judah and the other tribes.

Therefore this applies to anyone who follows Messiah.

I wouldn't say that I am "preaching " it. I am explaining it as it has been revealed to me through scripture.

As for Leviticus, I have to be hones that at first I was like.. "Oh Neim, my brother, no.. this was about mourning only!!!" because that was what I was taught.

But I bit the bullet and looked at the whole chapter n context.

Then I looked at the other lines in the scripture and realized that every item in that paragraph related to copying a pagan practice.

"AHA! A theme I see!

So I loked for similar references in the Gospels and the rest of the NT and all I could find was scripture saying not to folow the ways fot the pagans. Do not do as your neighbors do.. etc...

More blanket statements that uphold the ideal of not following pagan ways even if we are not engaging in pagan rituals...

And I had to facepalm myself and say "dang, Neim was right and I was ready to tell him that I was sorry that I did not agree with him this time."

ah, well, thank you for the clarity. Should I decide that I cannot think for myself, I will remember that I must give up my guilt free lifestyle. Until then, I will count myself lucky to no longer be one of the faithful.

I will tell you something,we will not always agree and if not do not ever take it personal.I may be wrong you may be right.

I answer certain posters certain ways because I can feel when their intention is to set traps.
Many think I am cocky and ego hunting but far from.

When messiah walked he was no efeminate man he was loving kind but stern, every body wants the sermon on the mount with barley loaves and fish but that time is gone.We HAVE TO BE STERN ABOUT WHAT THE WORD SAYS WITHOUT BEING DIVERTED.
If it hurts I am sorry but I TRY TO PUT A LITTLE ANASTHETIC WITH IT.LOL

Kind AC. I am not condemning you nor am I condoning.

I was addressing one statement you made only, as I was curious where you got your information from, thinking I could have missed something and would have liked to have it for consideration.

You said that LEV chapter 19 was for only the Levite priests. I asked you to show me how so and why I was asking and then showed you who it applied to. I asked because I thought that maybe you had read scripture that stated something other than what I was pointing out so I could look at it as well.

When I study, I attempt to both prove and disprove and use historical data as well.

I was in no way condescending to you and do not appreciate you being so with me.

Whether we agree with each other or not, I see no need not to be civil.

I understand where you are coming from, Neim.
You have always treated me with respect and I appreciate that. I hope you feel I have done the same with you.

I do not doubt we will disagree at times. Like I have said before, we are shown what we need to understand when He deems it is time for us to understand it. We each have our own custom tailored sylibus.

I did used to think you were harsh and gruff, but I also see and understand where it is coming from so I do not take it personally at all.

I do not think that how you do it is wrong, just different.

He didn't make us all as little cookie cutter robots, if He had, there would not be a discussion like this and life would be boring as heck. ;-)

GRUFF? thats a good one!

Yes I had to set my face as flint and study the word even more because I had a battle going on with people who see me as a minority and never trully looked at the word but attacked my ethniticity. It really hurt but I knew I had to keep preparing the threads and giving them the word.I spend a lot of time preparing and giving detailed information and its a pleasure because I do it that some will be saved.

There are many of you out there who resist the word of God and willfully suppresses his instructions and bring his statutes and commands to zero in order to be worldly.The reasoning is to be able to walk after your own lusts and to be accepted by the world.

The constant battle goes on with christians and because of the diluted untrue doctrinal versions of the bible teachings they lead the young ones astray by telling them lies that there is no law and we are under grace,"JESUS LOVES YOU".

Lets address this issue OF THE TATOO and PIERCINGS what the word says,though it will be rejected by the masses it is the truth of the father.
Jeremiah Chpter 10
LEARN NOT THE WAYS OF THE HEATHEN


Most of Leviticus 19 (such as verse 19:28) are moral commandments that applies not only for Israel but for the New Testament Christian today."Some ceremonial precepts there are in this chapter, but most of them are moral. . . Most of these precepts are binding on all, for they are expositions of most of the ten commandments."


The heavenly father EH'YEH plainly, clearly, strongly, and without a doubt – condemns the tattoo.

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:28


Could that be any more clear?


"Ye shall not. . .print any marks upon you. . ."


Simple. . . Straightforward. . .Settled. . .

EH'YEH Said It. . . I Believe It. . . That Settles It. . .

Right. . .?

Not hardly. . .

The clear statement from the word of God does not settle anything for this generation of disobedient, carnal, worldy, tolerant, non-judgmental, Christians. Rather than obey God, they run miles and miles and miles to "justify" their open disobedience to the Word of God.

How do they get around Leviticus 19:28?

Clearly, there it is. "Ye shall not. . .print any marks upon you. . ."

A lot of Christians when confronted with Leviticus 19:28, scream, "Hey dude, that’s not for today. Man, that’s the Old Testament. I’m under the New Testament".

Did you know that "bestiality" (sicko, perverted, sex with an animal) was ONLY forbidden in the Old Testament Levitical Law? Only in Leviticus 18:23 and Leviticus 20:15-16. Dude, only in the Old Testament Law. Does that mean a Holy God NOW – under the New Testament, approves of bestiality?

Same sick, perverted, wicked, line of reasoning as the "it’s ONLY in the Old Testament-tattoo-bearer-wearer". Same reasoning. . . Same disobedience. . . Same perversion of the Word of God.

OP... You are providing the truth, but OF COURSE it is hated by the world.

You can't expect a carnal and tatooed rebel against the truth, to accept it any more than you ca get a murderer to accept (or even acknowledge) that they are, indeed, a murderer.

that I know and expect but we are but flesh and times we grow weary but thanks for acknowledging that it is truth