Fasciated Mutations in Dandelions near Michigan | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081441 United Kingdom 04/23/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Wayne County. I just walked through my backyard and checked out the 30 or so doomdelions I've got. They all seem to be quite normal. Quoting: Hitokiri If you're wondering why I have so many it's because I haven't cut my grass in almost two weeks due to surgery. ;-) its still april who the fuck cuts there lawn in APRIL!!!????!!! just had to say that lol In the Deep South, people start cutting the grass as early as March. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5769488 United States 04/23/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fasciation is rare overall, but has been observed in at least a hundred different plant species, including members of Aloe, Celosia, Delphinium, Digitalis, Euphorbia, Forsythia, Primula, Acer, Prunus, Cannabis and many genera of Cactaceae (cactus) and Salix. Cresting results in undulating folds instead of the typical "arms" found on mature Saguaro cactus. Some varieties of Celosia are raised especially for their dependably fasciated flower heads, for which they are called "cockscomb". |
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emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 04/23/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure if this is related, but I do alot of yardwork on a ranch in southern Oklahoma and one of the yellow rosebushes I take care of now has RED roses growing on it. I have never seen anything like this before. WTF?? Quoting: zip50 8807715 A color change in flowers exposed to ionizing radiation has been reported in carnations snapdragons and spiderworts (just the stem hairs though). I don’t know about roses, but it is an interesting question nonetheless. [link to www.jstor.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] From the above (old) article, among the other changes occurring in the radiation-exposed plants included abnormal thickness in stem diameters, and abnormalities in flowering. (See pages 963, and 965, however, I didn’t want to quote directly from the article for fear of copyright violation) Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Flat User ID: 7811220 United States 04/23/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scary. Radiation sickness and mutations from our own doing is such a lame way to die. Last Edited by Flat on 04/23/2012 11:59 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8417061 United States 04/24/2012 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was posted as a user comment on an Extinction Protocol site. Seems relevant to the discussion at hand so I figured I would share: [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] ----------------------------- I have grown plants my entire life. I am 51, and i have seen some weird stuff happening with my plants this year. The fast growing plants like spider plants have shot out sprouts that look like riinons instead of round skinny shoots they have always done. My tomato plants are growing like crazy and have a ton of tomatoes sprouting off of the leaves instead of the trunks like thay usually do. I have even seen unusual bugs I have never seen before. I think the solar wind is already penetrating to the survice of our planet in small amounts and causing mutations in fast growing plants and animals…I hope my imagination is just going wild for our sakes…The good part is what ever is happenning it seems to a benificial effect… Quoting: Frank-------------------- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14937290 United States 04/24/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed dandelion mutations last yr after the Fukushima incident this was Northern Ks. The stems were overly long and very quickly..like 18 to 24 inches with huge dandelion heads, some deformed. Like a gargantua/giant type deformaty. I also noticed a few albino baby birds that I had never seen before, obviously from the spring eggs. ?? |
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barky User ID: 5566136 United States 04/25/2012 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to answers.yahoo.com] Quoting: barky [link to gardenthymewiththecreativegardener.blogspot.com] [link to www.flickr.com] Even in 07' [link to briandeen.wordpress.com] They have been around for a long time Fuku' has nothing to do with it. Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4281714 United States 04/25/2012 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This jackass was already boo'd off other sites. Why you may ask? Because of their inability to reply to this: "Fasciation can be caused by a mutation in the meristematic cells, bacterial infection, mite or insect attack. Some plants may inherit the trait." Not radiation. Then where did this genius get this idea? From the 1986 film 'The Manhattan Project'. A FICTIONAL FILM. When asked for evidence linking the particular fasciation of the plants the poster has, and whether or the poster has weeded out the difference between fasciation caused by insects/bacteria and radiation.... ...the poster remains quiet and posts rambling insults. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15019672 United States 04/25/2012 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure if this is related, but I do alot of yardwork on a ranch in southern Oklahoma and one of the yellow rosebushes I take care of now has RED roses growing on it. I have never seen anything like this before. WTF?? Quoting: zip50 8807715 2. Roses can "sport" or mutate. Sports can be color changes or growth habits (climbing sports or repeat-blooming sports). Pink Knock Out and Blushing Knock Out are color sports of original Knock Out. Sometimes, though, the sport can revert back to the parent color. I have seen Pink KO and Blushing KO plants with blooms that are bi-colored or back to KO's cherry red. 3. Rootstock suckering. Most roses sold in the US are grafted onto another rootstock. Most of those are grafted onto the rose Dr. Huey, which is a once-blooming red climber. You can tell rootstock from the desired variety by digging down to find the source of the canes with the different colored blooms. These will come from below the graft union. Dr. Huey's canes are usually thinner than the grafted varieties canes. You can dig down and tear (not cut, tear) out those canes and try to save the grafted variety. Dr. Huey is a vigorous grower, and if its canes are not removed, the plant will eventually be all Dr. Huey. [link to forums2.gardenweb.com] |
emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 04/25/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am a horticulturist,dandelions are famous for doing this ,its cause by a virus nothing more Quoting: worm man It is may not be so simple to just say, "this is due to a virus". Even if the effect is primarily due to a viral infection, the immune response of the plant may be altered by exposure to ionizing radiation. At Chernobyl low dose exposure to radiation led to a decreased resistance of plants and wider viral spreads and species. [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp] Sometimes it is not so simple as to say this is jus “A”, “B”, or “C” when the causes may be interconnected or related. If we are seeming more widespread mutations even due to more widespread and diversified viral outbreaks, the central questions still remain of; “Why?” and “What is really going on in our environments?” My two cents anyway. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85989 United States 04/25/2012 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an EXTREMELY important thread - I wish people would pay attention to this stuff and less to the religious and alien/nbiru nonsense. This is the stuff that's going to kill us and destroy the world. Quoting: mehitable And Christ is going to save us and restore the world, that's why we aren't going to talk less about "religious" matters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 04/25/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could it be because of increased solar radiation...? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673 Or maybe cesium fallout taken up because it mimics potassium and plants love it...? ~ wb Was there a fallout event in Michigan? Because I don't think the Sun only shines on Michigan, and I doubt all the Fukushima radiation decided to take a vacation there specifically. D'oh. Look up Jet Stream and atmospheric transport. Is Michigan under glass? ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 04/25/2012 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an EXTREMELY important thread - I wish people would pay attention to this stuff and less to the religious and alien/nbiru nonsense. This is the stuff that's going to kill us and destroy the world. Quoting: mehitable Can this be Fukushima? Great job, OP!!! I would think mutation would take longer than 1 year to manifest. The major radioactive emissions and fallout were in March of 2011. This is the second growing season, dummy. WTF! ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 04/25/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am a horticulturist,dandelions are famous for doing this ,its cause by a virus nothing more Quoting: worm man It is may not be so simple to just say, "this is due to a virus". Even if the effect is primarily due to a viral infection, the immune response of the plant may be altered by exposure to ionizing radiation. At Chernobyl low dose exposure to radiation led to a decreased resistance of plants and wider viral spreads and species. [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp] Sometimes it is not so simple as to say this is jus “A”, “B”, or “C” when the causes may be interconnected or related. If we are seeming more widespread mutations even due to more widespread and diversified viral outbreaks, the central questions still remain of; “Why?” and “What is really going on in our environments?” My two cents anyway. Random is no longer valid. The fact that there are MANY cases and spread out all over the world would rule out regular old fasciation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673 Or it could be fasciation caused by, oh crap. You won't believe me, anyway. Look here: [snip] The cause of fasciation is varied, but not well understood. In some cases this irregular growth is apparently triggered by infection (by bacteria, viruses or phytoplasmas), feeding by insects or other animals, chemicals or mechanical damage. Fasciated dandelion.Somatic mutations, hormonal imbalance, and environmental causes such as extreme weather have also been implicated, but in most instances fasciation appears by chance with no obvious cause. In some plants a single recessive gene controls this condition, although the degree of expression is often very dependent on environmental conditions. [link to wimastergardener.org] ~ wb |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75109 United States 04/25/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to weed and feed, guess thats off now. I'll be out looking at the millions of spring dandelions on my poor lawn instead. Quoting: Mr. Toppit Yeah I don't recommmend weed and feed, with the possible exception of corn gluten (though that is likely GMO corn). Dandelions are useful plants and actually pretty flowers if we can escape the American Dream mindset of a perfect monoculture grass lawn. Dandelions are natural aerators of the lawn and nectar sources for pollinators. You can eat the young leaves and the roots can be brewed into a coffee-like drink. God gave us many uses for this plant. |
Miggy User ID: 1445345 United States 04/25/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you see where they're probably going to kill off what few bees we have left by practicing ("observing"- yeah, right!) on them? I sincerely believe they are responsible for the new 10 allergies that have popped up in the past few years (from grains, dairy and nuts.) They're HELL on kids! Imagine not being able to eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when you're 6 years old because you might have a fatal allergic reaction? I hope Pelosi and her minions regret this for all eternity. Miggy |
Chills User ID: 10156155 United States 04/25/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm here in Macomb county too. SCS Fascination can be caused by a virus, or even by the freaky weather we've had. The person who possted that a yellow rose bush started blooming red. That's easy, the graft died adn the red is from the rootstock. ~Chills |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1273076 United States 04/25/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of three things..or combination of .. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208 #1...Japanese radioactivity. #2...Chemtrails #3....Monsanto genetics crossing over to all living things... I had a strawberry that looked like the one on the video last year. I thought it was due to the previous use of Roundup. (I don't use Roundup for weeds and they have taken over the garden!) |
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Miggy User ID: 1445345 United States 04/26/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to weed and feed, guess thats off now. I'll be out looking at the millions of spring dandelions on my poor lawn instead. Quoting: Mr. Toppit Mr. Toppit, I used to think like you, too. I had a PERFECT lawn which took a lot of time and money to maintain. About 2 or 3 years ago when I was still in Vegas someone started a thread about already having to rake leaves in August. I paid particular attention because I had a 49 year old tree that looked sick, SMELLED sick and I could crack off the stems instead of pruning, as usual. Not only that, I started paying attention to ALL of the ground. It smelled horrid- not healthy at all as in years past. I don't know how to describe it. You know when a piles of clothes smells soiled, right? Or when a pound of hamburger goes bad? Well, this was how I viewed what I was smelling. It was not normal. It smelled wretched. That's when I took my instincts seriously and got the hell out of there. I'm in Oklahoma now and paying attention to the same things I witnessed the first 30 years of my life here. So far, all I noticed was we had NO winter, whatsoever... The dandelions have a thorny leaf.... The tulips and daffodils had bloomed and died by Valentines day... And where we used to begin mowing grass in April and May, I've already had to mow weekly since the first of March. There are ladybugs EVERYWHERE- never seen this many but that's fine by me. Unfortunately the fleas and ticks have already become the size they normally are in mid summer. We didn't have the usual, blustery March winds either. Guess what I'm saying is no more fertilization for me. If something comes out of the ground, is green and doesn't smell nauseating I feel I'm blessed. Miggy |
Miggy User ID: 1445345 United States 04/26/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure if this is related, but I do alot of yardwork on a ranch in southern Oklahoma and one of the yellow rosebushes I take care of now has RED roses growing on it. I have never seen anything like this before. WTF?? Quoting: zip50 8807715 ZIP, you're KIDDING me, right????? I put my red hibiscus that always has dozens of blooms out on the porch last week (have owned it 8+ years) and now HALF the blooms are salmon/coral colored! What the fuck is THIS about?! |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 1339933 Canada 04/26/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure if this is related, but I do alot of yardwork on a ranch in southern Oklahoma and one of the yellow rosebushes I take care of now has RED roses growing on it. I have never seen anything like this before. WTF?? Quoting: zip50 8807715 ZIP, you're KIDDING me, right????? I put my red hibiscus that always has dozens of blooms out on the porch last week (have owned it 8+ years) and now HALF the blooms are salmon/coral colored! What the fuck is THIS about?! I believe the color of hibiscus is ph dependent. I can get pink or blue, depending where I plant. |
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