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Old African American Shots Middle Aged White Male in Florida... Claims Stand Your Ground Defense.. Press Silent

 
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But a more relevant story has gotten less coverage. A homeowner, trying to enforce the regulations of his community, got into an argument with a younger man. That man attacked him, he claimed, and had him pinned to the ground. The older man was armed, and fearing his life was in danger, shot and killed the man on top of him. The incident took place in another Florida town, Valrico, about a two-hour drive from Sanford. Ironically, the neighborhood, just like George Zimmerman's, is called Twin Lakes.

There are a couple of differences in this story. The older man was 69, the younger 41. And the shooter was African-American, his victim white.

Trevor Dooley, a school bus driver, spotted a boy skateboarding on the basketball court in the park across the street from his house. He yelled at him to stop, saying skateboarding was prohibited. D. J. James, an Air Force veteran who served in Iraq, was shooting hoops with his eight-year-old daughter and had given the boy permission to skateboard. He yelled back, "Show me the sign." According to eyewitnesses, Dooley went back into his garage, got a gun, and crossed over to the park. He and James argued until Dooley pulled up his shirt to expose the gun and said, "f*** you." He then headed back home. James followed and reprimanded him. "Don't flash a weapon," he said. Dooley then pulled out the gun, James reached for it, and the two men struggled for the gun and fell to the ground. Lying on his side, Dooley shot James through the heart.

After several days, Dooley was charged with manslaughter. The case is still before the judge. Dooley's lawyers have filed a motion asking that the charges be dismissed, citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. The prosecution will argue that it doesn't apply, as James was defending himself and posing no threat to Dooley.

This is not the kind of story that makes anyone in the media say "Wow!" The trial has barely been covered even in Tampa Bay's two papers and its TV stations since the testimony of James's daughter on February 23rd. And no one is interested in Trevor Dooley's feelings about whites.


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Not suppose to shoot unarmed people unless they are breaking into your home. That's been law of the land for ever. Simple fight is not reason to shoot someone.
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04/23/2012 09:41 PM
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Not suppose to shoot unarmed people unless they are breaking into your home. That's been law of the land for ever. Simple fight is not reason to shoot someone.
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Didn't even read the OP's article, huh?
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But a more relevant story has gotten less coverage. A homeowner, trying to enforce the regulations of his community, got into an argument with a younger man. That man attacked him, he claimed, and had him pinned to the ground. The older man was armed, and fearing his life was in danger, shot and killed the man on top of him. The incident took place in another Florida town, Valrico, about a two-hour drive from Sanford. Ironically, the neighborhood, just like George Zimmerman's, is called Twin Lakes.

There are a couple of differences in this story. The older man was 69, the younger 41. And the shooter was African-American, his victim white.

Trevor Dooley, a school bus driver, spotted a boy skateboarding on the basketball court in the park across the street from his house. He yelled at him to stop, saying skateboarding was prohibited. D. J. James, an Air Force veteran who served in Iraq, was shooting hoops with his eight-year-old daughter and had given the boy permission to skateboard. He yelled back, "Show me the sign." According to eyewitnesses, Dooley went back into his garage, got a gun, and crossed over to the park. He and James argued until Dooley pulled up his shirt to expose the gun and said, "f*** you." He then headed back home. James followed and reprimanded him. "Don't flash a weapon," he said. Dooley then pulled out the gun, James reached for it, and the two men struggled for the gun and fell to the ground. Lying on his side, Dooley shot James through the heart.

After several days, Dooley was charged with manslaughter. The case is still before the judge. Dooley's lawyers have filed a motion asking that the charges be dismissed, citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. The prosecution will argue that it doesn't apply, as James was defending himself and posing no threat to Dooley.

This is not the kind of story that makes anyone in the media say "Wow!" The trial has barely been covered even in Tampa Bay's two papers and its TV stations since the testimony of James's daughter on February 23rd. And no one is interested in Trevor Dooley's feelings about whites.


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There are several things wrong with that scenario - if true.

First, the white guy had no business telling a kid he could skateboard if the HOA (I assume that's what they mean by regulations of the community) prohibits it.

The black guy had a right to tell the kid to stop, but when the white guy yelled at him - the old guy had no business getting a gun and going over to the park.

Neither of the men had any business arguing.

So the black guy shows the gun, and then turns to go back to his house - but the white guy followed him. The white guy had no business following him OR reprimanding him.

Once the white guy saw a gun, he should have backed away and steered clear.

It also made him a VERY bad parent to do what he did because his young daughter was there - his first and ONLY priority should have been her and her safety. The MINUTE he saw a gun, he should have gotten the hell out of there and made sure his daughter was safe.

They both acted stupidly and irrationally.

They both instigated and are therefore, both at fault.

And the real gist is that it is incredibly STUPID to get into any kind of argument or scuffle - or worse - over some kid skateboarding.

What a world of idiots.
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Black will go to prison. You don't brandish a gun unless your life is threatened.
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Just one more reason why negros should not be living in White neighborhoods. Like everything else, they'll just ruin it and cause the crime rate to rise.
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The black guy clearly murdered the white guy in cold blood.
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Just one more reason why negros should not be living in White neighborhoods. Like everything else, they'll just ruin it and cause the crime rate to rise.
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When the blacks start moving in, the whites start moving out.
It's a constant cycle for us whites to avoid these parasites.
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Just one more reason why negros should not be living in White neighborhoods. Like everything else, they'll just ruin it and cause the crime rate to rise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5353486


When the blacks start moving in, the whites start moving out.
It's a constant cycle for us whites to avoid these parasites.
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what is really bad, is the FACT that the lovely Government is building section 8 housing, ( welfare housing) inside very neighborhood in America.. They bus these lazy porch sitters into every neighborhood.. There is nowhere to go to get away from them..WTF !!!!!

Government. please just go and fix a road or bridge or something and leave people alone would you....
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04/23/2012 10:20 PM
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Just one more reason why negros should not be living in White neighborhoods. Like everything else, they'll just ruin it and cause the crime rate to rise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5353486


When the blacks start moving in, the whites start moving out.
It's a constant cycle for us whites to avoid these parasites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14861873


Every time it happens you get financialy ruined. The average man, if has any wealth at all, has it tied up in his house. If he takes the hit a couple times he loses everything he worked all his life for.

I know this guy who winters in Arizona. He's always compalaining about the racists down there in the trailer park who complain that he hangs around with the blacks. He can't understand why everybody hates these nice black retirees. I had to explain it to him. The reason those Whites are living in a trailer park is out of necessity, not desire.

They all once lived in nice homes. When their streets were ruined by blacks and hispanics they took the 10 or 20 grand their houses were still worth and had to move into the trailer park. I told him that if the blacks ruin the park they live in now, the only place left for them to go is under the overpass. Those nice blacks who are the first in aern't the problem. It's the scum that inevitably follows that ruins the place. He begrudgingly understood but still vowed not to let anyone pick his friends for him. At least now he knows.
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Not suppose to shoot unarmed people unless they are breaking into your home. That's been law of the land for ever. Simple fight is not reason to shoot someone.
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Didn't even read the OP's article, huh?
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Yup. You'r not suppose to use a weapon at all. Not even your boots. If he feared for his life using a weapon such as a pipe would be plenty to even the threat.

Zimmerman was acting in an official capacity of security to ID potential criminals.
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Race war has started. Blacks want a second term for Obama.

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Florida needs to rewrite their stand your grounds laws to be more inline like we have in Texas.

In Texas you have to have killed the person inside your property line.

This would avoid basketball courts, street and sidewalk issues.
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