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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8407446 United States 04/24/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Rapture of the believers will follow the pattern seen in the resurrection of Jesus, including his 40 days of ministry after the resurrection, before they are then taken into heaven. This post also explains who goes, who stays and who goes thru the tribulation, and why. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8407446 United States 04/24/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa this is the guy who had that dream you posted. His studies are good. He went to bible college, and I gather he is an engineer and scientist. [link to www.waterfreeclean.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8407446 United States 04/24/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa link below: Lisa this is the guy who had that dream you posted. His studies are good. He went to bible college, and I gather he is an engineer and scientist. [link to www.waterfreeclean.com] THE DREAM (Via Lisa's Post): Last night I had an extremely exciting and vivid dream-vision concerning the return of our LORD Jesus. I normally never remember anything I dream, but this was so gripping and vivid, and I have been thinking about it all day today. I would like to share it with you and hereby also have a written record. I found myself in a meeting with a number of believers. The meeting hall looked like some kind of a warehouse and there were fewer than 100 assembled. The talk seemed to center on the increasing persecution they were experiencing. All of a sudden Jesus appeared and most, but not all, were instantly transformed from mortal beings into Immortal. Also, at the same instant, some other Holy Ones appeared who had walked with God in ages past, both in New and Old Testament times. All of the ones who had, in an instant of time, received their new bodies were able to recognize and converse with the Holy Ones from times past. I heard someone exclaim: "I thought You are coming in the clouds to take us away." The reply was: "I am coming in the clouds and...My reward is with Me. Behold, here they are, My Holy Ones of all time, My faithful witnesses, those who loved not their life, and thus received it. They are the clouds and my reward, My reward for what I endured on the cross for all." I heard another question asked of the LORD, by one of the Transformed Persons, whether He would now take them with Him out of the tribulation they were experiencing. He replied: "No, you must remain here for another 40 days and nights, just as I was on Earth for another 40 days after My resurrection, and minister with Me to those who were not ready. After the 40 days and nights you will come with Me into the skies above Jerusalem and we will leave from there to have a celebration, a banquet in My Father's house, a feast that has been planned before the worlds were made." The ones in the assembly, who had remained in their mortal bodies, lamented and cried to the Transformed Ones to help them, but were told: "It is now too late. The Bridegroom has come for us and there is nothing we can do for you, in this regard. However, if you will not love your own life, not bow to the will of the sin-man and take that seal of his, you will join us after the celebration. You will be sealed by your death and kept in the throne room for the LORD." In what seemed a moment later, I was in another similar assembly in (maybe) another country. There, also, the instant transformation had taken place of many. I was told that this same event had happened all over the Earth, and all born-again, Spirit filled followers of Jesus had been thus transformed, at whatever spot they happened to be in that instant. They were joined by many of God's Holy Ones, from the dawn of creation up to the present time. Just then, some heavily armed police, or soldiers, burst into the meeting and proceeded to beat, shoot, and arrest the believers. A little blonde Transformed lady stood-up to one of the large men, and refused to move when told she was under arrest. Five or six huge men tried to drag her away, but could not move her any further than they could have moved an ancient redwood or oak tree. This infuriated the police, and they started to beat her and to start shooting their weapons. The bullets went right through the Transformed Believers and made holes in the walls or, in some cases, struck and killed some of the mortals standing behind them. The blows seemed to go through also and have no effect whatsoever on the new resurrection bodies. The remaining mortals were dragged off to prison, along with some of the Transformed Ones who chose to go along. There was no sure way to tell, at first glance, who was mortal and who lived in a transcendent resurrection body. I was then also in a prison, and I saw how the Immortals were comforting the anguished souls who were to be executed unless they denounced the name of Jesus. The guards and all governmental authorities were furious that they could do absolutely nothing to prevent the Glorified Believers from coming and going and ministering anywhere on Earth, wherever Jesus told them to go. No wall could hem them in, and no weapon, or human force, could oppose or harm them. One of the Transformed Saints who had lived ages ago on Earth spoke: "Within forty days, many who refuse to accept the seal of the evil one will be killed and kept safe by the Father, personally, in the throne room. Those who give in will suffer in the Terrible Wrath, beginning after the last saint is murdered. This Wrath is the LORD's Last Effort to get rebellious mankind to repent." At this point, I awoke and, as you can imagine, was quite agitated. In fact, my heart rate was considerably above the normal resting level. The clock said 5:05am. Needless to say, I could not go back to sleep. Over time, I may forget the details of this dream, or vision; but one thing I'll never forget is the anguish, wailing, and heart-rending lamentations of those who had to remain here. I do not know how many of these chose to be killed rather than take the seal of the antichrist. Scripture does speak of a group coming out of the Great Tribulation; but whether some will be from those left behind, or not, was not made clear to me in this dream-vision. |
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NoRapture User ID: 3982673 France 04/24/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.tribulationcentral.com] [link to www.tribwatch.com] [link to www.posttribpeople.com] from a French post-tribber. Last Edited by NoRapture on 04/24/2012 05:15 PM |
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Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 04/24/2012 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | excellent post! Idk about the 40day part though - I Thess.4:16-17 says the dead christians will rise 1st and then we'll join them in the air in the twinkling of an eye. I don't think they'll be hovering in the clouds for 40 days waiting for us to join them! morganite |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 04/24/2012 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really enjoyed your post...I had a dream/vision 4 years ago where I was transformed only i didnt know what was happening to me. After this transformation I could see my body was like mist...I had no FLESH. I kept saying Lord im dead, im dead. There was a guide with me who kept saying to me not to worry that everything was going to be okay. But I knew I was dead as I had no flesh. Here is the kicker...I was still in the earth. I couldnt understand why I had no flesh but was still in/on the earth. I later to understand this year was i actually had experienced, the change/transformation. All I can tell you is that I had no flesh but i was still recognizable and I remembered everything from my former life. It was like I was more alive than I had ever been. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15000537 God Bless and Keep you all! Jesus did have a body of flesh, he even ate fish, and one of His disciples was able to put his hand into Jesus's wound. I think we need to be VERY careful when considering these things because the Bible really isn't clear about it. I do know that the new agers are teaching an "awakening" and all that kind of thing, so we have to be very careful not to fall into some trap that satan could put out for the believers in Christ. I'm not saying this is true, or false. I don't know either way. But, I am saying that it's intriguing, but tread lightly and pray about, really pray about it. We don't want to be mislead, and it's easy to be mislead about things that we don't fully understand yet. I know that believers will receive a new glorified body, the Bible says that. It also says we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye, the Bible says that. It also says the corruption will put on incorruption, it says that too. But at the same time satan counterfeits EVERYTHING. He does this because it's so easy to be fooled, so we have to pray pray pray and pray about things like this. I will be praying about this and not leaning upon my own understanding because I just don't know. |
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rb User ID: 1386606 United States 04/25/2012 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty good synopsis ;) check out the Bible is a marriage contract thread Thread: The Bible is a marriage contract love rb |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15021209 South Africa 04/25/2012 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And all the atheists (dirty pigs) will be left behind and satan will send hot demon trannies to mete out the above mentioned anal justice...for a looooooong time! The louder you cry 'STOP' the deeper and harder those evil, luscious vixens will ram your tender schute. It is gods way of saying 'you're a naughty boy for not loving me!' It's also his way of enjoying some smut on the side without looking like a perv. He might appear to be a sick, sadistic, insane sonofabitch but he won't be a perv. Oh well, that still beats the living bejesus out of being in the company of even one christard... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8407446 United States 04/25/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it fits the example of Jesus, and according to the greek there is a delay in the 1 Thess description by Paul... |