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Tiberius22 (OP) User ID: 9474225 United States 04/24/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no there is a NATO 5.56 round which does not shoot in the barrel of a stock AR-15 hence buying the barrel that works with the NATO round :) I will have about $1000 to spend including ammo. The AR-15 kit would cost around $600. And I already have a shotgun, I need either a rifle or a handgun Last Edited by Tiberius22 on 04/24/2012 09:52 PM Tiberius |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8417061 United States 04/24/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to buy a gun this coming May, my friend has an AR-15 and I was thinking about buying one as well. I remember that people on here saying to go for the AK-47, but the AR-15 will be more easy to find in America considering it is used in the armed forces and police forces. I would buy the barrel that allows me to fire the 5.56 round along with the .223 round. What other guns would you guys recommend that I look at, more for a SHTF scenario? Quoting: Tiberius22 Beretta CX4 Storm - pistol carbine. [link to www.berettausa.com] Highly customizable (Pistol grip, sights, barrel shroud, etc). Comes in 9 mm, .40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Gun can easily be reconfigured for left or right handed shooting. You'll save $$$ on ammo too buy getting a pistol carbine. 40 cal version holds 15 rounds and could be modified to accept larger Beretta clips if you wanted, but that might not be legal depending on your state laws. Highly accurate. Retail is $800-900. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13921708 United States 04/24/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How experienced are you? And how much $$ can you afford including ammo? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13921708 sounds like you have enough $$ for about a thousand rounds ammo which you could burn through pretty fast with an AR15. they're fun to shoot so be disciplined or you'll end up with a gun and no ammo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14236345 United States 04/24/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in all honesty there is probably as much 7.62x39 ammo stashed in this country as 5.56 or .223. i would recomend an ak. they are less money, they go bang every time, a total ratard can maintain one. i'm am not saying you are a ratard i'm just saying when shit happens u want a weapon that works. u might not be shooting matches whith it but when u pull the damn trigger things happen. just my .02 |
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Kayak Pulling Kayak User ID: 1544142 United States 04/24/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to buy a gun this coming May, my friend has an AR-15 and I was thinking about buying one as well. I remember that people on here saying to go for the AK-47, but the AR-15 will be more easy to find in America considering it is used in the armed forces and police forces. I would buy the barrel that allows me to fire the 5.56 round along with the .223 round. What other guns would you guys recommend that I look at, more for a SHTF scenario? Quoting: Tiberius22 Beretta CX4 Storm - pistol carbine. [link to www.berettausa.com] Highly customizable (Pistol grip, sights, barrel shroud, etc). Comes in 9 mm, .40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Gun can easily be reconfigured for left or right handed shooting. You'll save $$$ on ammo too buy getting a pistol carbine. 40 cal version holds 15 rounds and could be modified to accept larger Beretta clips if you wanted, but that might not be legal depending on your state laws. Retail is $800-900. Fuck yes I love my px4 and cx4, both use interchangeable 17 round 9mm magazines I like the AR and the AK too but to ask any group which to get is a waste of time Everyone has an opinion and they are all wrong If I owned a 12 gauge and only had $1000 bux to throw down I would get a smith and wesson mp15-22 and a walther p22 then spend the remaining $200-$300+ on ammo thats my take whatever you get, it will be awesome fuck yeah Doom on! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14900286 United States 04/24/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5.56 and .223 Remington are not the same. Wannabe mistake. They have slightly different specs. .223 Remington is the sporting round. 5.56x45mm is the NATO designation of a similar round. GKBSFIM: Get Knowledge Before Sticking Foot In Mouth 5.56 data: [link to en.wikipedia.org] .223 Remington data: [link to en.wikipedia.org] You can redeem yourself by telling us the differences. |
Kayak Pulling Kayak User ID: 1544142 United States 04/24/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5.56 and .223 Remington are not the same. Wannabe mistake. They have slightly different specs. .223 Remington is the sporting round. 5.56x45mm is the NATO designation of a similar round. GKBSFIM: Get Knowledge Before Sticking Foot In Mouth 5.56 data: [link to en.wikipedia.org] .223 Remington data: [link to en.wikipedia.org] You can redeem yourself by telling us the differences. This really shouldn't be an issue almost all ARs in the $600-$700 range accept both Doom on! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14236345 United States 04/24/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in all honesty there is probably as much 7.62x39 ammo stashed in this country as 5.56 or .223. i would recomend an ak. they are less money, they go bang every time, a total ratard can maintain one. i'm am not saying you are a ratard i'm just saying when shit happens u want a weapon that works. u might not be shooting matches whith it but when u pull the damn trigger things happen. just my .02 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14236345 i forgot to mention one important thing. if the shit ever does hit the big oscillating blades, you can upgrade to whatever suits your fancy. i kinda want a tank |
Kayak Pulling Kayak User ID: 1544142 United States 04/24/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big fan of ruger but that mini14 is a mistake, overpriced, ruger specific parts and accessories, save the headache and get an AR I'll research the mini14 because the best 22 I have ever owned was a ruger trust me on this this gun puts my ruger 10-22 to shame Doom on! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14900286 United States 04/24/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before you go buying guns, you need to know what you need. Google the word "yontg". There is an article out there written by "NetRanger" that has a comprehensive explanation of what you need. In his words he claims its irresponsible for any household to not have these three guns and some ammo. He mentions several packages as do the comments below. Good luck! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295078 United States 04/24/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big fan of ruger but that mini14 is a mistake, overpriced, ruger specific parts and accessories, save the headache and get an AR I'll research the mini14 because the best 22 I have ever owned was a ruger trust me on this this gun puts my ruger 10-22 to shame Nice little plinker for sure but I don't think OP was looking to hunt rabbits.... |
Travis Bickle Vigilantes need love too.... User ID: 1484907 United States 04/24/2012 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noooot Exactly. The 5.56 has increased muzzle pressure and the breach as well as the barrel need to be able to withstand it. I guess that makes YOU the N00B One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14900286 United States 04/24/2012 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got 3 Mini-14s. They outshoot and outperform the ARs. Though the AR platform is a good one, its a tinkertoy compared to the construction of the Mini-14. Worst thing about the AR is its "shitting where it eats". Lost of blowback and powder residue right up into the action. None of that with the Mini-14. Clean as a whistle no matter how much you shoot it. I've got one that I've run about 2000 rounds through and I've never wiped it off and I've never cleaned it. Pretty damned amazing if you ask me. AK, AR, M14. Just pick one. Don't let them tell you an AK isn't accurate either. They may not be able to hit a golf ball at 100 yds but they're. good enough and, frankly, that 7.62x39mm round makes the 5.56x45mm look a little bit wimpy. 125gr at 2800fps beats 55gr at 2900fps any day. Personally, I fell in love with the .223/5.56 back in the late 70s. I've got autos, bolts, break actions and pumps in the chambering. It rocks. I've shot over 400 rock chucks with one of my bolt actions and a number of them with my first Mini-14 (I've had the bolt since 1978 and the one Mini since 1982). Pick what you like but don't be afraid to "fall out of love". I had an AR once. Wasn't impresse. Same with the AK. Hehe. I traded them both for stainless Mini-14s. But, don't expect to put a scope on a Mini-14. You'll be disapointed. At least I have. But the factory peeps on them are pretty good. |