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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
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let's make it simple, reading the bible, jesus (or any messiah, they are all the same indeed) will come to save your asses and than he will create what? A FREAKING NEW WORLD ORDER.

are you already an ant? do you really want to be erased to live in the beehive mind they are creating for you meanwhile they will put their huge asses on the top of the pyramid hidding themselves behind the puppet they created to fit your belief?

gullible...
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YES YES YES thank god(?) someone else feels the same way.

think about it, lucifer is the light bearer...jesus was a lightbearer.

Lucifer and jesus are both called the morning star

SATAN is the fake rendition imposed on the highly religious folk to keep them under control. tptb use this idol, this false LUCIFER idol to grant them power and wealth.

SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES!
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he didn't wrote any book, he didn't say hey humans worship me or sacrifice whatever for me, he didn't create religions/politics/wars/all the shit we are all suffering from so explain me how can this so called lucifer could be responsible for the mess all the elites (and their minions) of our planet did and are still doing right now?

nobody knows really?
maybe because it's all part of the lie, how nice we have a perfect scapegoat to blame!
 Quoting: Monbazillac


And you are still blind to believe "god" is only the god of the OT.

The God of the OT was a tribal god.
The world has evolved since then. Now god is as vast as the universe, and outside of any concept duality.

"Like your brother like yourself". "New" concept, non duality. So revolutionary for that time, the controlling priest caste nailed that revolutionary ass on a cross for being a hippy rebel shouting "peace and love" and "god is inside of you, not in the churches and priests".

What you blame are still consequences of the "god" of the OT. Some religious people still haven't received the memo even if it's been 2000 years.

No need to call "lucifer" to fight the old god of the OT.

The new god is above all that duality shit.
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14659644


This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


let's make it simple, reading the bible, jesus (or any messiah, they are all the same indeed) will come to save your asses and than he will create what? A FREAKING NEW WORLD ORDER.

are you already an ant? do you really want to be erased to live in the beehive mind they are creating for you meanwhile they will put their huge asses on the top of the pyramid hidding themselves behind the puppet they created to fit your belief?

gullible...
 Quoting: Monbazillac


I'm not religious and don't support religion. So it doesn't apply.

But a Luciferian mystery religion won't be any better :p

You still struggle among smoke and mirrors, but you are only punching yourself.
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he didn't wrote any book, he didn't say hey humans worship me or sacrifice whatever for me, he didn't create religions/politics/wars/all the shit we are all suffering from so explain me how can this so called lucifer could be responsible for the mess all the elites (and their minions) of our planet did and are still doing right now?

nobody knows really?
maybe because it's all part of the lie, how nice we have a perfect scapegoat to blame!
 Quoting: Monbazillac


And you are still blind to believe "god" is only the god of the OT.

The God of the OT was a tribal god.
The world has evolved since then. Now god is as vast as the universe, and outside of any concept duality.

"Like your brother like yourself". "New" concept, non duality. So revolutionary for that time, the controlling priest caste nailed that revolutionary ass on a cross for being a hippy rebel shouting "peace and love" and "god is inside of you, not in the churches and priests".

What you blame are still consequences of the "god" of the OT. Some religious people still haven't received the memo even if it's been 2000 years.

No need to call "lucifer" to fight the old god of the OT.

The new god is above all that duality shit.
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Yes! Once again...THREE CHEERS!
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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No he wasn't. and he has been uncreated after his trial 30+years ago now.
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14659644


This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
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This^^
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Yes, the illuminati does worship Lucifer.. but they worship the house more than the Creator ....

The house is good ...but it went all wrong when they stop worshiped the Creator

and that is evil in the eyes of the Almighty
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History teaches us that Christianity was not founded by
Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus), but rather by Paul. Also, he never
really met Jesus, just claimed to have. Paul was heavily
infl uenced by his current path which was Mithraism, a sun
cult and this is possibly where he got the cross. No human
living today truly knows if Jesus was crucifi ed, impaled, or even roasted alive. The Roman Soldiers were left to their own devices to be as cruel, lingering, and painful as possible. And they were very good at it. The same guys are said to work for the Russian Mafi a now.

There are hints about his death in the scriptures, which were again, mutilated and enhanced by the Council of Nicea under the guidance of Constantine. Who by the way, never was a Christian at all. He just wanted a religion to control, and unify his empire. Christianity seemed to be a good one, but it had lots of problematic teachings that had to be weeded out. What humanity got had little to do with anything the Son of God was believed to have taught.


Once one gains a higher perspective in such matters,
they can fi nd the same threads running through many religions. Like the Rites of Jupiter underpinning Abraham. The bread and wine, a part of the Jewish and Christian Rites as well as those of Bacchus. The horns and hooves of the Devil, came from the Christians using Bacchus’ rites as a bad thing. Just remember and think about the Party God.

No religion comes to be in a vacuum, and often the old
Gods become new ones with different names, and sometimes…
they just become. As an antagonist of the new is The Serpent, and The Satan, which were deities before. As was Lucifer, the Bringer of Light. And just to let you know, Lucifer is also known as the Christmas Star. You got to love that one! Yes, itis true, one and the same they are. Certainly Moses broughtthe Egyptian Mysteries to the Hebrews, who’s religion was vastly different than modern Judaism by the way. As was that in the time of Jesus. There is nothing like modern day religion of any type.

Again the Christian concept of Satan is derived from a
Jewish equivalent, in which he was known as the Adversary,
who worked with, not against God. The modern concept of
Satan is more closely aligned with the Egyptian concept of
Set. That evolved by the XXXVI Dynasty into the enemy of
Horus, and became associated with his former enemy Apep,
the serpent. Who was often shown wearing a red mantle. A
little food for thought.

For those with the patience and the intellectual fortitude to undertake it, this journey is both worthwhile and illuminating. The Horned God is also veiled under the guise of the Owl. The Owl is an ancient symbol of wisdom and is still recognized as such, as it was in the Greek Myths. The Owl is a bird of prey which hunts silently at night, and so is associated with the Moon and with the subconscious.

There are always people insisting the end of the world is at
hand. And many seem to like the idea of an imminent rapture.
Maybe it is because their faith is weak, and they are afraid to die. I have some bad news for them in that regard, this rapture is not there for them! They gotta suck it up like everyone else!

Maybe this is much easier for them, than trying to face a future they are so afraid of. I worry about them starting World War III to bring it on. They are very strange and fearful, but there have always been those types around. The Essenes’ were like that, and it spread very easily. Jesus was also part of the Essenes’ teachings.

Honestly, it has really been a fringe of some sort for thousands upon thousands of years. As for me, I say pay the bills just in case the world does NOT end today! For a person to believe in any given religion, they must have fear as a motivator. The end of the world is a pressure point in most, if not all of them.

That was the thing that concerned me about North America’s
last few Presidents, and still concerns me. They might get a
‘True Believer’ in the White House, with his or her happy
little fi nger on the button. And he or she starts to think as part of God’s plan, we have Armageddon now, and BOOM! Oops! Sorry about that translation. I meant to say…End Of Game!

So ignorant are those who preach the loudest! People need to
wake up and smell the coffee. Every main religion depends on
some type of superstition to keep the members in line. Much like the original basis of government dating back to time unwritten. Any valid religion requires no priests, no church building, no hierarchy. A hand puppet would be more than enough for a position of leadership I do believe.
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he didn't wrote any book, he didn't say hey humans worship me or sacrifice whatever for me, he didn't create religions/politics/wars/all the shit we are all suffering from so explain me how can this so called lucifer could be responsible for the mess all the elites (and their minions) of our planet did and are still doing right now?

nobody knows really?
maybe because it's all part of the lie, how nice we have a perfect scapegoat to blame!
 Quoting: Monbazillac


And you are still blind to believe "god" is only the god of the OT.

The God of the OT was a tribal god.
The world has evolved since then. Now god is as vast as the universe, and outside of any concept duality.

"Like your brother like yourself". "New" concept, non duality. So revolutionary for that time, the controlling priest caste nailed that revolutionary ass on a cross for being a hippy rebel shouting "peace and love" and "god is inside of you, not in the churches and priests".

What you blame are still consequences of the "god" of the OT. Some religious people still haven't received the memo even if it's been 2000 years.

No need to call "lucifer" to fight the old god of the OT.

The new god is above all that duality shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


i'm not calling anything except the truth, until i had it i will never shut up simple really simple.

to accuse who ever is not the truth, it's a practical lie to hide a smelly poo!
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14659644


This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


let's make it simple, reading the bible, jesus (or any messiah, they are all the same indeed) will come to save your asses and than he will create what? A FREAKING NEW WORLD ORDER.

are you already an ant? do you really want to be erased to live in the beehive mind they are creating for you meanwhile they will put their huge asses on the top of the pyramid hidding themselves behind the puppet they created to fit your belief?

gullible...
 Quoting: Monbazillac


I'm not religious and don't support religion. So it doesn't apply.

But a Luciferian mystery religion won't be any better :p

You still struggle among smoke and mirrors, but you are only punching yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


you don't understand or wut?
who need a religion? who need a master? who need a slavery scheme? why people chose lie and not the truth?

i'm not religious, i will never be since it's insulting and against life.
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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No he wasn't. and he has been uncreated after his trial 30+years ago now.
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Michael of Nabadon will lose his powers soon..
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Enki WILL kick Enlil ass this time..
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Christians have mind fucked most children from ever considering with an objective mind what you are suggesting. Even if they break free of the cult, the buzz words associated with "evil" remain. I must admit, I am a victim. But I am curious, as my mission is to find truth and dispel lies.
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YES YES YES thank god(?) someone else feels the same way.

think about it, lucifer is the light bearer...jesus was a lightbearer.

Lucifer and jesus are both called the morning star

SATAN is the fake rendition imposed on the highly religious folk to keep them under control. tptb use this idol, this false LUCIFER idol to grant them power and wealth.

SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES!
 Quoting: awww shucky-ducky!!!


THREE CHEERS to the VERY GIFTED among you! For few will see and read with understanding!! HE WHO HAS EARS LET HIM HEAR...HE WHO HAS EYES LET HIM SEE!
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clappa
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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No he wasn't. and he has been uncreated after his trial 30+years ago now.
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laugh
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Christians have mind fucked most children from ever considering with an objective mind what you are suggesting. Even if they break free of the cult, the buzz words associated with "evil" remain. I must admit, I am a victim. But I am curious, as my mission is to find truth and dispel lies.
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clappa
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Hey folks, OP is MLH. He thinks he is the "messenger". Now all credibility is lost on this thread.
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Through the cleaning proces of this creation
From Universe of lies to Universe of truth
Gathering of those connecting with truth deep in their hearts took part
A circle of power and truth
Lucifer was one of those
With heart open for the circle, humble
He was given the power to dissolve what does not serve the truth
The pure dark fire
Thus those seeking power made him wrong
Clouded him with guilt and shame
To make him forget

Those are the days for us to awake
To grab the new dream balanced on truth, love and joy
Now - from inside out
Rememberence
Walk the walk
Becoming a wave
Into the new dream
All connected by hearts - equal and free

Lots of love to you
Truth and Love...
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you

you man really THINK too much

BEWARE what hemi-sphere you are using while 'thinking'

what about THE REPTILIAN PART ???? ... ahahah

go on - think more

I wonder what's next?

''BAPHOMET IS YOUR BROTHER'' MAYBE ?? ...
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and you are gullible, there is no reptile in your brain.
who named the parts of your brain btw? oh my yep them again, how convenient they put the fear directly into your own body well done!

no you are afraid of yourself for no reason and hey don't ask why they chose this word not idk mosquito brain lol!
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lol - that just proves how much you DONT know
about your DNA..
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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"The devil is awesome, let's all pretend to wanna go to hell because the tv keeps telling us there's endless parties with drugs, rock n roll and sex there and you can do crime without worry of consequences! The devil isn't the lying trickster the entire world knows he is because if he was, he would have told us. I'm totally not a deceived sheep!"

With people so willingly stupid, its no wonder the devil barely has to try.
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Lucifer Arc angel Feminine side
Satin human man connection side
Devils minions the followers worshipers
Demons guardians of portholes
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woe to those who exchange evil for good and good for evil :) read your Bible some more op. and pray.

love rb
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I can see where you are coming from OP, and you have a good heart. However, when you take a good long hard look at Lucifer, you will see it is all but deception. A deception that will never bring you happiness.
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So true, Lucifer is/was most likely the good guy.

He wanted freewill and for individuals to be able to escape from God's demented slavery system. In many way's he won and thank god, he did or we would not be the rational free beings we are today.
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This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


let's make it simple, reading the bible, jesus (or any messiah, they are all the same indeed) will come to save your asses and than he will create what? A FREAKING NEW WORLD ORDER.

are you already an ant? do you really want to be erased to live in the beehive mind they are creating for you meanwhile they will put their huge asses on the top of the pyramid hidding themselves behind the puppet they created to fit your belief?

gullible...
 Quoting: Monbazillac


I'm not religious and don't support religion. So it doesn't apply.

But a Luciferian mystery religion won't be any better :p

You still struggle among smoke and mirrors, but you are only punching yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


TPTB do not, and I repeat, DO NOT worship LUCIFER, they worship SATAN. There is definitely a diff.
Ancient Chinese secrete: Man who stands on toilet is high on pot.
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true but, anyway

BOTH ARE GONERS THIS YEAR : ))))))))))
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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No he wasn't. and he has been uncreated after his trial 30+years ago now.
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how many years ago nip? I'm thinking 34, since I was stripped of power.
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would that mean his spirit would reincarnate somehow?
I know you stated he was uncreated, but is that even possible, no forgiveness? hehe

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Lucifer is different to Satan. Even Satan is God's helper in the OT.

However you should not rely on or expect help from non physical beings.

These things use humans for their own perposes without love.

They can feed off of worship and even off of everyday emotions if you direct your attention to them.

Humans need to protect themselves and look out for each other.

Humans can sometimes become friends with these beings but that has to be an equal relationship not a worshiping one.
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let's make it simple, reading the bible, jesus (or any messiah, they are all the same indeed) will come to save your asses and than he will create what? A FREAKING NEW WORLD ORDER.

are you already an ant? do you really want to be erased to live in the beehive mind they are creating for you meanwhile they will put their huge asses on the top of the pyramid hidding themselves behind the puppet they created to fit your belief?

gullible...
 Quoting: Monbazillac


I'm not religious and don't support religion. So it doesn't apply.

But a Luciferian mystery religion won't be any better :p

You still struggle among smoke and mirrors, but you are only punching yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


TPTB do not, and I repeat, DO NOT worship LUCIFER, they worship SATAN. There is definitely a diff.
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Bullshit, masons worship Lucifer as an archetype of enlightenment, many secret societies worship Lucifer, the UN hosts Lucifer symbolism, the Bohemian Grove hosts pagan mystery ceremonies.

The NWO are Luciferians because most are masons, they are into rational humanism, and the archetype of human reason as light is Lucifer. But Lucifer is also pride and they tend to forget it.

All these secret societies, masons, UN, don't like the power of organized religions, and if they could create a worldwide syncretic religion to abolish all the old ones, they would do it. That syncretic religion already exist under the form of the new-age and most syncretic esoteric beliefs that you find in the Luciferian lodges.

And for the record, I'm not religious, and I condemn organized religions. But to replace old religions with a new one, one that is syncretic and uniformized on top of that, is one of the tools of the NWO.

The NWO is about destroying differences and bringing people under one rule, one religion.

I'm all for peace, but I hate uniformity and forced peace. All great empires who tried that before failed. So no NWO pill, no New-age Luciferian pill for me. Sorry.

Only through the respect of differences can peace truly prevail, and that means respecting the existing religions, but fighting their fundamentalist manifestations.

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