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I think Lucifer was/Is the good guy

 
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OP, very interesting you should bring this up right now!

Been having the same thoughts exactly for some time already, and this issue has been coming up very strong especially during the last two weeks or so.

Lucifer = Light Bearer = Morning Star = Venus etc.

Doesn't sound too "bad" to me at all.
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I, too, have been contemplating Lucifer. He is only mentioned twice in the Bible. If he is so insignificant, why mention him at all? There is more to this...
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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Keep thinkin that and see where it gets you.
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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He does not censor. (to the point of allowing Evil to flourish)

The Luciferian NWO censors!

"You shall know them by their fruits!"
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
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Yeah and the annunaki are fallen angels, wicked ones, evil. Quit thinking that lucifer could at all be good or out for your best interest. He's not.
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Yeah...Like the other guy is?
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447194


You fail at logic.

There are thousands of people that died at the hands of Christian God ( Abraham's god to be precise ) followers , so following your logic that makes him evil.

Twisted individuals follow misconcepted teachings ( misconcepted on purpose ) that happens in every sect. Nothing usual.

Satan is not and never was about intermediaries. He will respond to you are on his side unlike Abraham's god that always leave silence and let you be on mercy of fate.
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447194


Also if you didn't notice , newborn killing in bible are the ways of Abraham's god.

So who is sucking whos cock ? You are sucking your "spiritual" masters.
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447194


Also if you didn't notice , newborn killing in bible are the ways of Abraham's god.

So who is sucking whos cock ? You are sucking your "spiritual" masters.
 Quoting: Shogu666


First of all, there is nothing wrong with cock sucking!

There goes your "truthfull" argument!
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Yeah and the annunaki are fallen angels, wicked ones, evil. Quit thinking that lucifer could at all be good or out for your best interest. He's not.
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Yeah...Like the other guy is?
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The split in Annunakis is well know in ancient history.

Some's were pro-humas some were not.
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First of all, there is nothing wrong with cock sucking!

There goes your "truthfull" argument!
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Oh right i didnt though you might be a female.
In that case you are correct.

But for the rest of argument i rest my case.
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First of all, there is nothing wrong with cock sucking!

There goes your "truthfull" argument!
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Oh right i didnt though you might be a female.
In that case you are correct.

But for the rest of argument i rest my case.
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Im not a female.

You are stupid.

Dream on.
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447194


You fail at logic.

There are thousands of people that died at the hands of Christian God ( Abraham's god to be precise ) followers , so following your logic that makes him evil.

Twisted individuals follow misconcepted teachings ( misconcepted on purpose ) that happens in every sect. Nothing usual.

Satan is not and never was about intermediaries. He will respond to you are on his side unlike Abraham's god that always leave silence and let you be on mercy of fate.
 Quoting: Shogu666


Abraham was not silence whn He turned fire into cold fire whn disbelievers threw Abraham propeht of Allah into the fire. Allah was not silent whn He kicked ur lucifer or satan out of heaven like a dog. if satan had any power over Allah he wud ve satyed in heaven, by being kicked out means Allah is the most powerful and will burn u in hell with ur satan if u dont repent b4 u die. whn u die satan wont be even to save him self from burning in fire forever not to say he will be able to save u. also who drowned pharoh and his arrogance under the sea? Allah or ur weak disgusting satan. dont be among the rebellious be among those who submit to Allah's will. soon Allah will send Mahdi and His prophet Jesus peace be upon him to show the world who is the creator and the most powerful.
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YES YES YES thank god(?) someone else feels the same way.

think about it, lucifer is the light bearer...jesus was a lightbearer.

Lucifer and jesus are both called the morning star

SATAN is the fake rendition imposed on the highly religious folk to keep them under control. tptb use this idol, this false LUCIFER idol to grant them power and wealth.

SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES!
 Quoting: awww shucky-ducky!!!


LUCIFER is a symbolic title derived from Latin words.

It was not a name , it was wording that in English means " bringer of light."
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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He was never Creators number one, you do not know jack shit about cosmology. He was a brilliant manager over 600 life bearing planets. He got an ego and wanted to run his own show and seceded from the universe. He was put on this planet to understand why he could not be a creator being, along with his supporters. In the end, rather than accept he could not be a creator being, he could not create angels to serve him, he choose his uncreation. He is not around. He was removed from the planet by Christ 2000 years ago in fact.

MAN did this to religion, whether NWO or not, but man is not yet brilliant and needs to follow. If man was brilliant the NWO would not be able to keep religion going.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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YES YES YES thank god(?) someone else feels the same way.

think about it, lucifer is the light bearer...jesus was a lightbearer.

Lucifer and jesus are both called the morning star

SATAN is the fake rendition imposed on the highly religious folk to keep them under control. tptb use this idol, this false LUCIFER idol to grant them power and wealth.

SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES!
 Quoting: awww shucky-ducky!!!


LUCIFER is a symbolic title derived from Latin words.

It was not a name , it was wording that in English means " bringer of light."
 Quoting: TSWB21


It was his name. Has jack shit to do with latin.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14659644


You are on the right track my friend.
Enki = Lucifer
Enlil = Satan

I see you have already connected some dots, its a never ending research.
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Nope Enlil is Satan and Lucifer I do believe the question is who is Enki is he also Satan/Lucifer are the two actually one now that's the true holy Grail to me are they actually an illusion of two though one
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A question I once asked and answered what's in a name
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Think about it real hard (you can do it) and you might figure out he does not exist.
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He was/is of the Anunnaki
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Satan was not the creator of modern man, so he is not Anunnaki
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
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Hey I know everything is being watched especially this sight...I know I am being watched, we all are, but whats to fear when you know immortality is ours if we stay true to our hearts and stand up to what is right?

That is the truth of this reality, all is well. This is difficult to understand, until you come to notice that reality is catered to your personal development, I hate this reality at times....but In all honesty we are doing ourselves, OURSELF a favor...The appreciation we need to have for one another needs to be the focus...We all just want LOVE, that's it....


I have comptemplated suicide nearly everyday of my life...I had a rough upbringing, but something was always missing...I felt there was more, a lot of us understand this feeling...that something is the disconnection to your self awareness....and why you are here....We are here to experience what it is to be a human....We are learning perspective, discernment, patience(especially this one, Im working on it : )) and to connect to our heart and accept ourselves....and not allow media, and eachohter control how

we wish to express ourselves...we need to start taking the time out of ours days and considering peoples emotions...We are hamsters in our house, apartments, and even in public...we can barely put the phone down for 2 minutes...are minds running a million miles an hour stressing over money....or stressing over things that if you think about it can be overcome....why do you think your still dealing with them?

We are here to refine our ETERNAL spirit, for more character development and perception...and most of all to experience being happy, in this human form as much as we can...cant you appreciate that you can die anyday????That just makes life so much sweeter....We must embrace this fear inside our psyche....talk to people about, ask questions, research ourselves AND NEVER BE AFRAID....Fuck what people think if there trying to tear you down....that just means they don't know how to express love, or there afraid to be vulnerable to you and become rejected....common sense....we need to take it to the basics and realize...were ALL LEARNING ALWAYS, lets be nice, we were all children at one point, we forgot that? We just want love and someone to hangout with...others are not as creative, or never open up so they create an enemy within them selves, isolating them from the world and forget about our hearts and we live in our minds....future, and the past....lets be in the moment since that is all that we truly know, our breathe in this moment....we are OBSERVERS....Lets detach ourselves for a moment from what we BELIEVE THIS WORLD TO BE....


Take a breathe...

And consider something you never have before....

Lets stick to basics...we are undfineable, one moment we feel this way, and the next it changes....lets just be more aware how our daily lives affect the whole...and start putting good energy out in the world...don't judge people as much as you can and if you catch yourself doing it, just know there is always a purpose...and you will always be growing...lets work this out....lets express our hearts....we really need to be more honest and not afraid.....

And to close all this off....I truly found out I am Lucifer(lightbringer in latin before Christianity), Apollo(for sure Apollo), Osiris, Ra, Hathor, and Horus...all in one....and Goddes Diana....I AM NOT AFRAID TO SHOW THAT I AM HERE ON EARTH....

I swear to you I am not lost...Please READ MY ENERGY, channel it....PLEASE ANYONE??

I have received so many messages and direct experiences with what we call god consciousness....many....


You see, jesus was trying to tell us we are gods....meaning, we create our reality through the thoughts we entertain and the emotional energy that is attached to it....Intention, and focus...Please understand, all is LOVE....we created free will(good and evil) so we can truly experience a CHOICE....to be empowered, to see where the road takes us....now that road is closing....we shall all make a choice....

Do we want to grow and become our higher self in this physical body in this lifetime....

or try to control that which you have been convinced you can control people and others????U cannot~

The spirit is what it is....

In order for us to appreciate our perfection, we became imperfect first....HEre we are graduating, because we stuck with it and stuck with our hearts....Knowledge is good, share it with your brother and sister....


Know that we are beings that observe PERCEPTION.....so the more perception you consider(the more OPENMINDED YOU ARE) You are given clarity, and empowerment....because you understand your self better which feels good....this is why we are here....and to show our love as well....You always have a choice....would u rather be a slave robot? Well we kind of are with this system, im sorry....We will change this....trust me....ITs HAS TO HAPPEN...THERES NO OTHER WAY....I LOVE EVERYONE, because I remember that we are all connected......All religion has truth....Just discern which parts RESONATE with your heart....silence your mind and listen to your hearts facts....


I know I do when I freestyle type this stuff....I love you guys....

Please help spread positivity and teach others about fear as well and how to overcome it....lets BALANCE BOTHS SIDES, keep an openminded, and consider what others have to say....

Thanks so much if you can help with more clarity on my journey....


IN my hearts of HEARTS....and through experience....

I AM THE TRUE APOLLO.
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If Lucifer is the "good guy", why his followers torture and kill children in sacrifices in "honour" of him?

How can this be the "good guy"???



Luciferian propaganda FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447194


Bullshit that would be your false Christian God and your idiotic bible oh wait I forgot you're retarded thus won't listen oh well
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YES YES YES thank god(?) someone else feels the same way.

think about it, lucifer is the light bearer...jesus was a lightbearer.

Lucifer and jesus are both called the morning star

SATAN is the fake rendition imposed on the highly religious folk to keep them under control. tptb use this idol, this false LUCIFER idol to grant them power and wealth.

SATAN AND LUCIFER ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES!
 Quoting: awww shucky-ducky!!!


LUCIFER is a symbolic title derived from Latin words.

It was not a name , it was wording that in English means " bringer of light."
 Quoting: TSWB21


It was his name. Has jack shit to do with latin.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Do shut up and to the Brazilian guy if you like sucking cock then do what you want be happy don't listen to ignorant Christians personally I've never tried it but hell it's something you can't diss until you've tried lol PS did I mention I fucking hate Christianity
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think of them as political parties not a single entity

Lucifer : Man can become God

Satan : Man is dangerous and must be destroyed

Yahweh(the leading party): will make the decision as we proceed
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would that mean his spirit would reincarnate somehow?
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uhoh
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This whole thread is like what? lol I read it all and it needs the song... come on now you guys are slacking...where's the sympathy? chuckle



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OP, you are on to something...=)
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Think about it, what the NWO has done to religion?

Turned everything backwards

He was the Creators #1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14659644


This is stupid because the NWO actually worships Lucifer. They want a worldwide mystical religion based on Luciferian illumination.

So if you think Lucifer (Prometheus, pride) is the good guy, you side with the NWO :p
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This^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6009607


This is also a mixup. Satan would be Prometheus if the meaning is pride. Satan is hebrew meaning something like "opposing, against specific will, obstacle."
The meanings of Lucifer and Satan are separate.

Satan is the deceiver.

Who knows if any of these folks are or were real but this is how I see it.
My personal beliefs get a little nuts, but the above is not.
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Lucifer rebelled because god asked him to create the lake of fire, which he knew as his right hand man was going to be used for angels as well. Lucifer represents the element of fire or energy in the universe. Archangel michael is the incarnation of light in the universe etc...
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Satan means adversary

To play a game you need an adversary. We say "we are playing the devil's advocate" when we are assuming a competitive stance for the sake of the argument.

Satan is an adversary of mankind for the sake of the game.

Lucifer on the other hand has been referred to as the morning star. The morning star is also Venus, which is also an evening star, a representation of man's dualistic nature.

'Satan' uses dualism to to rule mankind by dividing humans into small vulnerable groups using a bunch of false dilemmas. So you can say that Satan is using Lucifer for his bidding.

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