I think Lucifer was/Is the good guy

I love you dude!

BINGO!
First time i read the bible, i knew mankind had been had from the get go.
Lucifer wanted the slaves(mankind) to know the truth about themselves....what was wrong with that?
Also, who did lucifer kill or maim? Now look at the god the world worships, how many have died in his name?
There is your answer!

Very wise.

People confuse this.

A lucifer is a "light bearer".

Lucifer IS a lucifer.

The bearer of truth and knowledge.

Last Edited by EvenT6HorizoN on 06/26/2012 10:57 AM

Nalied it OP. All he wanted was truth.

Your the one confused.. 3 morning stars. Horus 3,000 years b4 Christ. Born Dec 25th from the VIRGIN Isis. Nickname *The morning star.* < Note day Jesus birthday is celebrated even though its not in the bible. < So If Christians call these people myths even though they said their words first. What does that tell you about Christians? Doesn't that mean they admit their own is bs? LOGIC. Trinity of the morning star. Horus, Lucifer, and Jesus.. All the same person. "I saw Satan Fall as lightning and strike the earth." < Wasn't lightning an Ancient Symbol of Power? Horus 3,000 years b4 Christ. Born Dec 25th from the VIRGIN Isis. Nickname *The morning star.* < Note day Jesus birthday is celebrated even though its not in the bible. < So If Christians call these people myths even though they said their words first. What does that tell you about Christians? Doesn't that mean they admit their own is bs? LOGIC. Game over. The DEVIL IS MAN.. Biblical word for man? HUMANITY. The FALL OF MAN.

^Sorry I double posed. I was copy pasting from my site.

Mebe He is the Son of Man....I dunno...can't makes heads or tails of the KJV.

However, I do Love Jesus.

Last Edited by Pyractomena borealis on 11/25/2012 07:38 AM

in the bible there are two references to the morning star...
one is at the beginning and one is at the end :)

MY BRAIN HURT

Satan = Santa = Saturnalia = Saturn = Cronos = Zeus's dad
Hell = Helios = Sun (kills shrooms which we were at one stage)
Lucifer = Jupiter = Zeus

Zeus was the first christ. get over it.

Last Edited by <%)oM34PrIm|(%>< on 11/25/2012 07:57 AM

So they are one and the same?

yes an it is amazing at what has been achieved

use your intuition, for truth does not have a label on it
but it is felt with the heart

did not prometheus stole the fire from gods for the sake of humanity? only to be later chained in matter?
was not jesus crucified for the sake of humanity?
was not giordano bruno burned at stake for sticking for Truth?
was not socrates poisoned for teaching the youth how to think?
have not some angels fallen into matter to give consciousness (fire) to humans?

what's in a name but what people make of it?
but in a life lived for the sake of Humanity...
there lies the secret of christhood

So the Masons are good guys after all?

I read Switzerlands story on Lucifer, it was quite good.

no, their methods and intent is not good.

the so called masons of today...
most of them are common folks whose souls are crushed under the vibration of 22...
and are reduced to the vibration of 4 becoming greedy materialists given to lust and all...
and they delude themselves they are part of the elite...
and some of them learn some easy tricks of black magic...
and think they are gods

but the good news is the new team is coming into town :)

THIS^^^

Gawd the sheep are so stupid.

Ok. Masons bad.

It's all soooo confusing.

OP, very interesting you should bring this up right now!

Been having the same thoughts exactly for some time already, and this issue has been coming up very strong especially during the last two weeks or so.

Lucifer = Light Bearer = Morning Star = Venus etc.

Doesn't sound too "bad" to me at all.

If you want some ancient correlations to Lucifer, read the titanomachy and the story of Prometheus (who was the representation of Lucifer in Greko-Roman mythology)...

According to them he was the Champion of man among the gods, yet he was never worshipped by the masses, only by small secret societies of the Elite. But some Prometheus worship symbolism survives today! The Olympic flame, and the eternal flame on graves are just two examples of this...

And the God of the Old Testament is the other guy.

Yep.

You too are deceived. Those who are deceived do not know it and will vehemently deny it. Some people find comfort in self deception. One of the reasons that debate over religious matters gets heated, is that people will work very hard to deny their own deception.

Well then you would have to reverse it one more time.

Think about it.

"You shall know them by their fruits!"

Yes Jesus had wisdom. It is not what it claims to be, but what it produces that determines what it is.