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Possibly The Most Gruesome Death Ever.

 
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The death of Gyorgy Dozsa.

As his suppression had become a political necessity, he was routed at Temesvár (today Timişoara) by an army of 20,000[4] led by John Zápolya and István Báthory. He was captured after the battle, and condemned to sit on a heated smoldering iron throne with a heated iron crown on his head and a heated sceptre in his hand (mocking at his ambition to be king). While Dózsa was suffering, a procession of 9 fellow rebels, who had been starved beforehand, were led to such throne. In the lead was Dózsa's younger brother, Gergely, who was cut in three before Dózsa despite Dózsa asking for Gergely to be spared. Next, executioners removed hot pliers from fire and forced them into Dózsa's skin. After pulling flesh from him, the remaining rebels were ordered to bite where the hot iron had been inserted and to swallow the flesh. Those who refused, about 3 or 4, were simply cut up which prompted the remaining rebels to do as commanded. In the end, Dózsa died on the throne of iron from the damage that was inflicted while the rebels who obeyed were let go without further harm.[5]

More about his life here:

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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
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Vlad The Impaler wins in the Mr. Gruesome stakes, IMO.

Also, Ivan The Terrible, who had people he didn't like, fried in huge iron frying pans.

Alive, of course.

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Vlad The Impaler wins in the Mr. Gruesome stakes, IMO.

Also, Ivan The Terrible, who had people he didn't like, fried in huge iron frying pans.

Alive, of course.

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Yeah, Vlad was pretty bad. This guy was basically burned and eaten alive, by his fellow rebels.
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Yeah you want to have a look at some of the rajahs of india, man o man some of them were sick bastards.

I guess there will allways be those that do this sort of shit, thats why "rehabilitation" doesnt allways work, some people just need a bullet.

Some animals display human like qualities, some humans are quite clearly animals.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
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Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
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Three bearded beings, the "Star-gods," each holding a star in his right hand, which is stretched aloft, and with his left towing a small boat containing the "Face of the Disk." ~Book of the Gates.
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Look up the bronze hollow bull that you were put in and then a fire was put underneath. The bull would blow steam out it's nose to signify your demise.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
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Some of the most gruesome deaths possible.....

Being boiled alive in oil
impaled on a stake
Crucified
Burnt at the stake
Falling feet first into a meat grinder
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although some of our DNA has bits of this blood lust most of those entities were taken off earth years ago...some still hide.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15029066


So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some rflaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..iyts done with the htreat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.
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How about Mithridates:

[The king] decreed that Mithridates should be put to death in boats; which execution is after the following manner: Taking two boats framed exactly to fit and answer each other, they lay down in one of them the malefactor that suffers, upon his back; then, covering it with the other, and so setting them together that the head, hands, and feet of him are left outside, and the rest of his body lies shut up within, they offer him food, and if he refuse to eat it, they force him to do it by pricking his eyes; then, after he has eaten, they drench him with a mixture of milk and honey, pouring it not only into his mouth, but all over his face. They then keep his face continually turned towards the sun; and it becomes completely covered up and hidden by the multitude of flies that settle on it. And as within the boats he does what those that eat and drink must needs do, creeping things and vermin spring out of the corruption and rottenness of the excrement, and these entering into the bowels of him, his body is consumed. When the man is manifestly dead, the uppermost boat being taken off, they find his flesh devoured, and swarms of such noisome creatures preying upon and, as it were, growing to his inwards. In this way Mithridates, after suffering for seventeen days, at last expired.
—Plutarch, Life of Artaxerxes[1]
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15029066


So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORTURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORTURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some flaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..its done with the threat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.

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Fixed
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them bathory were all dragon society same as vlad
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15029066


So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some rflaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..iyts done with the htreat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.
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ya ...sure...thats what he saidstfu
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IMHO,the most gruesome death ever was the little 6 year old boy who was trying to help his father and was sucked into the woodchipper. Very recent. I don't know how anyone could EVER get over that.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13480773


Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15029066


So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some rflaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..iyts done with the htreat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.
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ya ...sure...thats what he saidstfu
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Why do you christians always go out of your way to BACK UP these rants?

You never ever DEBUBK them..you NEVER prove them wrong..

Instead you say "Well..thats just how it IS..like it or not"

And people are supposed to BELEIVE you guys?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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How about Mithridates:

[The king] decreed that Mithridates should be put to death in boats; which execution is after the following manner: Taking two boats framed exactly to fit and answer each other, they lay down in one of them the malefactor that suffers, upon his back; then, covering it with the other, and so setting them together that the head, hands, and feet of him are left outside, and the rest of his body lies shut up within, they offer him food, and if he refuse to eat it, they force him to do it by pricking his eyes; then, after he has eaten, they drench him with a mixture of milk and honey, pouring it not only into his mouth, but all over his face. They then keep his face continually turned towards the sun; and it becomes completely covered up and hidden by the multitude of flies that settle on it. And as within the boats he does what those that eat and drink must needs do, creeping things and vermin spring out of the corruption and rottenness of the excrement, and these entering into the bowels of him, his body is consumed. When the man is manifestly dead, the uppermost boat being taken off, they find his flesh devoured, and swarms of such noisome creatures preying upon and, as it were, growing to his inwards. In this way Mithridates, after suffering for seventeen days, at last expired.
—Plutarch, Life of Artaxerxes[1]
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It's called Scaphism. And it takes the nasty cake...


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What about that midget actor who was eaten by badgers?
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I was planning on sleeping tonight.
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Idk I seen a guy get smashed by a set of 10 ton blocks on a drilling rig was pretty messed up
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Wrong.
The Lake of Fire was created for Lucifer and his rebel angels.
That will be the eternal punishment for their rebellion.
Adam and Eve rebelled, but God had mercy on humanity,
so much so, that He became one of us, and took the penalty
for all man's sins, for all time, upon Himself.
That is God's plan of Salvation, and there is no other.
You are free to accept it, or reject it, and Him.
He wants EVERYONE to live eternally in bliss unspeakable
with Him and the Holy angels.
He will not; however, force ANYONE to accept Him.
The decision is yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15029066


So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some rflaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..iyts done with the htreat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.
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ya ...sure...thats what he saidstfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441894


Why do you christians always go out of your way to BACK UP these rants?

You never ever DEBUBK them..you NEVER prove them wrong..

Instead you say "Well..thats just how it IS..like it or not"

And people are supposed to BELEIVE you guys?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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try logic.

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why in the world is the ungodly feel shafted at having to hang out with the ungodly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your free for to be with Jesus or not!!!!!!!!!

quit complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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what you don't understand is Jesus will not protect you if you don't want Him.

it is very simple
and logical.

if you don't want to hang around Jesus he will not force you.

think about it---your trying to make it look like Jesus is forceing you to hang out with him--he is NOT.

you are free to not be with Him.

Burning in hell and all the other crap the selfish ungodly will do to each other is NOT Jesus's fault.

you want freedom ---you got it.

Jesus will not force you to take His protection

you are free to face the devil and mix it up with the ungodly

you want to be on your own--a tough guy ass kicker--go right ahead.

accept the consequences of refusing Jesus protection.
quit be a fool and blaming God
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I always imagined the death of François l'Olonnais to be one of the most horrific until I read the OP.
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I always imagined the death of François l'Olonnais to be one of the most horrific until I read the OP.
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I mean, could you imagine them cutting up your brother in front of you, and then having the rebels eat your flesh, while you are still alive. They bit into his flesh where they tore it away, and then had to chew it up and swallow it. Talk about having PTSD after that.
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Idk I seen a guy get smashed by a set of 10 ton blocks on a drilling rig was pretty messed up
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Sounds pretty gross. Things look and feel a lot different when you experience them first hand.
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Lmao, even kamal or William lane Craig are somewhat trying to use logic however fallacy ridden. Never really knew religion and logic were compatible lol

So you AGREE then that GOD is FAR MORE EVIL than what these guys are in the fact he has a FAR WORSE TORTURE lined up for one and all...???

And the ONLY way to avoid this far worse torture is to ACCEPT him.

Hmmm..now let me see where FREE WILL comes into it...

I will come over to your house...with a truck full of torture implements..some thumbscrews..some red hot pokers..a rack..and yes..ill even have an iron maiden too..

Ill walk up to your front door..knock on it..you will answer..and I will say to you....

"See that truck out there?..well..its jam packed with TORURE devices..and UNLESS you be my friend and LOVE ME..with ALL YOUR HEART..I am going to TORURE you in that truck."


You would of course think I am some rflaming NUTTER..but..you might also say "OK then..let me SEE this truck full of goodies"

I would say "NO..you just have to BELEIVE me..you be my friend..or its TORTURE TIME"

Now.I bet you one million dollars you would call the cops to have a total nutter removed from your property...

And yet..YOU beleive GOD is making the SAME OFFER TO US????????

He wont let us SEE hell..we just have to take his word for it...he wont let us CHOOSE him of our own free will..iyts done with the htreat of TORTURE..its BLACKMAIL.

So you agree then that GOD IS making the SAME OFRFER...and thus...he MUST BE A TOTALL NUTTER..who needs removing from OUR property..the same way you would have ME removed if I turned up on YOUR dorrstep offering you the VERY SAME DEAL GOD is offering us..according to YOU.
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ya ...sure...thats what he saidstfu
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Why do you christians always go out of your way to BACK UP these rants?

You never ever DEBUBK them..you NEVER prove them wrong..

Instead you say "Well..thats just how it IS..like it or not"

And people are supposed to BELEIVE you guys?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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try logic.

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why in the world is the ungodly feel shafted at having to hang out with the ungodly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your free for to be with Jesus or not!!!!!!!!!

quit complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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what you don't understand is Jesus will not protect you if you don't want Him.

it is very simple
and logical.

if you don't want to hang around Jesus he will not force you.

think about it---your trying to make it look like Jesus is forceing you to hang out with him--he is NOT.

you are free to not be with Him.

Burning in hell and all the other crap the selfish ungodly will do to each other is NOT Jesus's fault.

you want freedom ---you got it.

Jesus will not force you to take His protection

you are free to face the devil and mix it up with the ungodly

you want to be on your own--a tough guy ass kicker--go right ahead.

accept the consequences of refusing Jesus protection.
quit be a fool and blaming God
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Re: Possibly The Most Gruesome Death Ever.
Look up the bronze hollow bull that you were put in and then a fire was put underneath. The bull would blow steam out it's nose to signify your demise.
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I was going to suggest this too.

They actually specially chambered the nostrils of the bull so that the screams inside would sound like a charging bull..

humans can be horrible...
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The death of Gyorgy Dozsa.

As his suppression had become a political necessity, he was routed at Temesvár (today Timişoara) by an army of 20,000[4] led by John Zápolya and István Báthory. He was captured after the battle, and condemned to sit on a heated smoldering iron throne with a heated iron crown on his head and a heated sceptre in his hand (mocking at his ambition to be king). While Dózsa was suffering, a procession of 9 fellow rebels, who had been starved beforehand, were led to such throne. In the lead was Dózsa's younger brother, Gergely, who was cut in three before Dózsa despite Dózsa asking for Gergely to be spared. Next, executioners removed hot pliers from fire and forced them into Dózsa's skin. After pulling flesh from him, the remaining rebels were ordered to bite where the hot iron had been inserted and to swallow the flesh. Those who refused, about 3 or 4, were simply cut up which prompted the remaining rebels to do as commanded. In the end, Dózsa died on the throne of iron from the damage that was inflicted while the rebels who obeyed were let go without further harm.[5]

More about his life here:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What do you think Jesus endured? This is much like the Crucifixion. To be crucified is actually much worse. Death is much much slower.
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
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God punishes those who are evil so that they will not trouble those who are righteous, anymore, for one thing. God does not send people to Hell for no reason or for 'simply being born human'. That is blasphemous and misleading. Being blasphemous and misleading people about God is a sin as well. You would be punished for that if you don't ask forgiveness and also repent. How ironic.........
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Isnt that so totally EVIL?


And yet..they say God has arranged FAR WORSE treatment of people in hell..for doing FAR LESS wrong..like simply being born human.
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God punishes those who are evil so that they will not trouble those who are righteous, anymore, for one thing. God does not send people to Hell for no reason or for 'simply being born human'. That is blasphemous and misleading. Being blasphemous and misleading people about God is a sin as well. You would be punished for that if you don't ask forgiveness and also repent. How ironic.........

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