Why Being Filthy Rich is Bad for You (and the rest of us)

Let's get a big to awaken the toilers.

Last Edited by Grimsun on 04/25/2012 08:29 PM

if i win the lotto, i 'll give ALL the money to family members.

I'm right there with you bud

Those are about the same odds we have of one day being like them.

And the one star bandit shills for his noble overlords. Bravo...

Good post... makes me think.

But I think the more damaging problem isn't a person's "gold" per se; it's his "grasp" of it.

Last Edited by Life and Love on 04/25/2012 08:51 PM

Most people don't aspire to becoming filthy rich and realistically only a small, very lucky, or extremely talented do. At this point in time people are just trying to earn a living wage, which in itself is becoming increasingly difficult.

I win the Lotto I say fuck you all and go join the better crowed..

With all due respect this does not make any sense! Unless you speak of advancing our minds to a superior level of consciousness and following the word of god!!!!!!!! However this is not reality in any way. We can clearly see that society is driving by the EGO and this is completely NOT possible. We are at least at of a level of 60% of the populous one step above a chimpanzee! This is just NOT reality. Why due you hate success!!!!!!! Next thing you are going to start a rant on SOCIAL JUSTICE or some load of crap like that!!!!!!!!

I whole heartedly agree with you, maybe it just magnifies what was there all along. Then again, absolute power corrupts absolutely and money is power

Due respect indeed, however I don't hate success. I acknowledged up front that those of us that are even moderately successful did so by hard work, talent etc. and I applaud and respect hard work.

I am positing that the upper echelon have convinced themselves that they are entitled to more than everyone else when push comes to shove and I think that's dangerous thinking. I think that "gold fever" becomes insatiable and is damaging to your psyche. It will make you do things you never thought yourself capable of.

Anyone ever seen Treasure of the Sierra Madre?

Or as I learned from bhakti yoga: "We become like that to which we are devoted."

(Choose wisely)

All ponzi schemes are just that 'schemes'. Sooner or later the people down the line end up broke. It is against the LAW. People go to jail for it. The whole banking system is simply a giant ponzi scheme. It was always doomed from day 1.

This is all fortold in the bible. Usury (lending with interest) is a great sin. If you loan someone money you cannot make a profit off of it, otherwise you are participating in a ponzi scheme.

You speak wisdom. Usury is especially bad when the rich are lending to the poor for profit. That's slavery.

OP 1 star because YOU ASSume to much!
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Are way to jealous of people you ASSume didn't work for what they have or somehow don't deserve it.

You have what's called a loser mentality ie if somebody has something you don't they either had it given to them or they folded to the MAN either way in your mind they didn't work for it.

Filthy rich? How much makes you filthy rich? Millions? Billions? How much?

Fine than are we embracing the fact that this is masterminded by EVIL. Brought to us thru secret societies and very dark doctrines of the Occult!!!!!!!!!!! All getting ready to sound the trumpets of the return of the Anti christ!!!! All of what you speak is about EGO driving our minds and following and becoming evil ourselves!!!!!!

Fine than are we embracing the fact that this is masterminded by EVIL. Brought to us thru secret societies and very dark doctrines of the Occult!!!!!!!!!!! All getting ready to sound the trumpets of the return of the Anti christ!!!! All of what you speak is about EGO driving our minds and following and becoming evil ourselves!!!!!!

Ah but you also assume i am jealous and a loser, which i am neither. This whole jealousy card gets played over and over and it's just bs. I've been very good at playing the game and am doing fair enough.

As for how much is too much: whatever amount makes you believe you are superior and deserve more than everyone else. You know they say the more you have, the more you want.

Sorry for posting this twice this site seems to acting weird and slowing down my MAC! Computer works fine on ALL OTHER SITES!!!!!!!! On here it is super slow!

Thousands. Hundreds. On the other hand millions and billions aren't necessarily filthy rich.

It's not the amount; it's the intent and attitude.

I do agree with some of what you say. There are definitely dark forces at work to enable this massive level of degeneracy, keep it permissible and attack anyone who questions it.

Well said LifeandLove

I can see judging by the thread rating that my message isn't popular. That's no surprise however since many of us are from the most prosperous nation in the world where we are taught from day one we are innately superior. We already believe we are entitled to more than people in "lesser" countries..

Well, first off, there is nothing at all 'evil' about jealousy. Jealousy is being upset because you want back what is YOURS. Don't confuse it with 'envy'. By him accusing you of jealousy he is claiming that you are just upset that he has something of YOURS, which you have a right to be. It is YOURS, by his own admission. He is trying to have it both ways. He wants to have what he earns and some of what YOU earned (by ursury) and and expects you to be his new 'subject'. This way, eventually, once he has enough people like you paying ursury, he doesn't have to work. He get's to be a 'winner' and a 'bum'.

His casting names at you is a reactionary response because he knows, deep down, that he is just a 'sophisticated bum' involved in a ponzi scheme so he lashes out and accuses you of being him. Classic misdirection move.

He somehow must keep this idea that he 'deserves' some of YOUR money. Only YOU deserve YOUR money, or it wouldn't be yours. People who think like that are harboring ENVY...coveting anothers belongings. You will notice that these people can NEVER make the distinction between 'jealousy' and 'envy' and MUST equate them the same. It's is a fancy form of THIEVERY...This way they can point the finger back at you and say 'you are just jealous!!!! '. Well, your right to be jealous, you DESERVE what is YOURS and if it is none of theirs they admit that they DESERVE it not...They are seen as CROOKS, even in their own eyes.

Corner them with the 'terminology' and they are found out not to DESERVE a thing.

Ask them what you would deserve if you were to hotwire his car from his driveway and drive off with it. What would he say you deserve. TO GO TO JAIL is what he would say. But what is the difference? You are so skilled and knowledgable that you can bypass the key system...doesn't that mean you DESERVE that car since you are so smart?

Really deep analysis. Especially the distinction between envy and jealousy. Let's face it, usury is a great sin. We followed down that path and look where it got us. That should tell you everything you need to know when you see it play out. Yet somehow every day people with good intentions still support and defend the very system that enslaves them and will likely be a road we can never go back from.

Excellent post!

Keep the deep thoughts coming, sir!

Thanks hon you know we're on the same ip so it looks like I'm talking to myself lol..

Just to point out, there is nothing wrong with being 'wealthy'. If you work hard and smart and get 'ahead' there is no crime in that. It is the taking of ursury that cripples the system eventually. Ursury is a form of 'gaming' your way around working for a living, at the expense of the whole system.

Even say, a rock star, that get's rich for hardly 'working' at all, and simply has a talent, can become rich without destroying the 'little guy'. He/she makes their money by selling an album for $20 a million times over. Nobody is forced to buy it and there are no ongoing payments to be made at a compounded interest rate where you never can finish the payoff. A one time fee.

There is no crime in banks lending money. If they say "I will loan you $100,000 if you pay me back $110,000 over a 30 yr period". This is totally legitimate if it is your business...(actually, I need to think about this one. It could actually be ursury still?) It is the charging of interest at compounding rates that 'entraps' people and makes them slaves to the lender. That plus the fact that we live in a system that DEMANDS you participate or if you don't you are placed in the 'loser' class. If you are in the 'loser' class this, in thier minds, gives them a right to steal from you. So society becomes run with a 'gang' mentality where you must participate in the madness and participate in robbing the 'loser' class. If you don't participate then they just toss you into the 'loser' class.

I know this personally. I found a way out. I bought a small liveaboard sailboat and owned it outright, just me and the dog. Never felt so free in my life. I just paid a $300 docking fee a month and I was set. If I didn't even have that, oh well, I just anchored out in an anchorage and would dingy to shore and back, $0.

What happened? Eventually, after being chased off from place after place for NO valid legal reason, the COPS eventually STOLE MY BOAT... PIRACY... THE COPS

I mostly disagree with you because I believe in free enterprise.
You use the word usury to mean any money loaned for interest or invested money that interest is earned on. That definition isn't really used anymore and the term usury now means interest that is exorbitant. The only time exorbitant interest is charged is usually when people don't pay off their credit cards or bank loans or they deal with loan sharks.

The problem with calling interest charged on loans or earned on investments usury is that there is a need for people to borrow money and someone has to provide that service. No one is going to do that for free. Would you loan money to a stranger for free? How can they be sure people will pay them back? A lot of people don't. They can't stay in business by handing out money for free, so they charge interest.

Why shouldn't people who earn and invest money earn money from the investments?
Whether you consider this arrangement moral or not, that is the way it works unless you live in a socialist country where everybody shares the wealth.

Why would any bank or credit card company loan you money for free? So it's just as much the fault of the person who goes out and buys things they can't afford and doesn't keep their bills paid up as it is the credit card companies for compounding interest on unpaid charges. The whole point is the convenience of buying now and paying later. That's what they are selling. People can choose to not use credit or they can pay their bills on time to avoid paying high interest.

Also, I disagree with the idea that it's usury to live off interest earned from investments. Companies need money from investors, so why wouldn't they pay their investors dividends?
If someone works for the money (or yes, even inherits it from someone else who worked for it) and saves and invests it, what is wrong with not having to work anymore? Yes, it is okay to think your "imaginary fiat" money entitles you to more than someone who doesn't have any money. That's the way a capitalist country works. You make the money, you get to keep it and enjoy all the perks that come with it.

Having said that I do agree with the point that there is a ruling class that is grossly overpaid. Examples: sports figures, movie actors and singers. But...the public is willing to pay the price to see them and that's how capitalism works. If you feel that way then you could boycott movies and sports events and refuse to be part of that - but you know most people aren't going to do that.

If you give the people what they want they will pay for it. That's how people get rich. If someone owns a successful company that makes millions then they are entitled to keep their profits. I don't like the fact that CEOs and upper executives get paid ridiculously high salaries, but if the owners are willing to pay them that then that's their business because they think they are worth it. People are paid for having skills that businesses want. If they don't have those skills, then they are going to have low paying jobs.

Maybe the real problem is that there has been too much effort to make everybody equal (as in middle class). First you needed a college degree to get a decent job, now you can't even get a job with a degree. You need an associates degree just to get a janitor job now. Why did we send all these people to college on govt. loans so that they would be overqualified to do service jobs? Somebody has to do those jobs.

Why did the govt. push bankers to give house loans to people who couldn't afford them and who eventually defaulted?

I agree the factory jobs shouldn't have all been sent overseas. The companies wanted cheaper labor and that was greedy and disloyal to this country.
I don't think you can blame rich people for being rich because if we buy their products and services then we are all part of the game.